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Post by vadarx on Apr 7, 2020 17:19:21 GMT -6
likewise, Bob! I'd do 4 for 3 for Stromer as well, but that is about as high as I would go I think. considering the cap ramifications of this virus-induced cancellation, there is a good chance we (and a bunch of other teams) are going to be in a major cap crunch next season. those previous numbers for cap increases we saw a while back for next season are going to get tossed out the window, imo. To be honest,I wonder what's goin' through Strome's mind after being separated from the sidekick that he broke through with last year. D-Cat had 28 5 on 5 goals last year and Strome had 34 assists and the two didn't play together the whole year and their third wheel was unimpressive most nights. Those two had real chemistry and confidence last year and separating the two young linemates was a major coaching fail as far as I'm concerned. He isn't Arb eligible so it'll be interesting to see how this works out but I have a feeling JC doesn't like him any more than he liked the Joker. yep. made about as much sense as separating 19 and 88 after both had career years the season before playing together.... just silly, imo. as much as I've disliked a lot of moves Stan has made, I dislike our coaching decisions even more. I can understand (kinda) Rocky giving Stan a long rope after he was a part of 3 Cup wins (yes he wasn't the GM that built em to begin with, but he has been with the Blackhawks since 2001, so you gotta give him credit for being a part of the team that did), but I just do not get keeping JC around anymore at all. his decision making is questionable at best and having a guy his age trying to coach the veterans seems like a piss poor idea and it frankly hasn't worked with them OR the younger guys. I would REALLY like to see a different coach brought in for next season and there are some good ones out there that are unemployed right now. sadly, I know it won't happen.... |
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Post by Tater on Apr 7, 2020 23:07:03 GMT -6
If players like deHaan and Maata aren’t tradeable does Murphy get shopped? New blood needs to play. I'd rather see Maata gone before Murphy. |
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Post by Tater on Apr 8, 2020 1:01:31 GMT -6
Off the wall thought, but it would be pretty cool if all the NHL players could play the remainder of the schedule on EA NHL 20. Each player playing as themselves, streamed live for all to view.
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Post by vadarx on Apr 8, 2020 4:25:13 GMT -6
sounds to me like Bettman and Co have finally figured out that if they want to have a playoff this season, the regular season isn't going to be able to be finished as scheduled. I have a feeling there is going to be a "creative" playoff format this summer. hell, the Blackhawks might even get in....
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 8, 2020 5:09:48 GMT -6
sounds to me like Bettman and Co have finally figured out that if they want to have a playoff this season, the regular season isn't going to be able to be finished as scheduled. I have a feeling there is going to be a "creative" playoff format this summer. hell, the Blackhawks might even get in.... who knows? i doubt there'd be people in the stands but at this point i couldn't care. |
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Post by BigT on Apr 8, 2020 7:17:09 GMT -6
Unless there’s some serious traction with this virus in the next couple weeks, I don’t think there’s gonna be a season, or playoffs. Unfortunately the US is getting hammered by this and I don’t see any sign of it slowing down, I fear that it’ll be July before the good ol US of A is cleared for travel, maybe even mid to late July. Hopefully I’m dead wrong, more for the obvious reasons than hockey. Nothing around here will be going till May or even June, it looks like they want the thing dead and gone before we resume normal life.
In Detroit, they’ve turned the massive Cobo Hall into makeshift hospital. That place is about 750,000 square feet, and Detroit is one of the worst hit if not the worst. Nurses I know that work over there at the hospitals say it’s gonna be “a long time” before things get normal. So I’m not holding out for much in way of sports. Just hoping we can start next season on time and keep her going with no renewal of this gawd damn thing.
My sons Spring Hockey team has a tourney in Michigan on May 15-17. And that’s been cancelled. So I doubt that pro sports is gonna be back anytime soon!!!
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Post by doogiew on Apr 8, 2020 7:56:12 GMT -6
likewise, Bob! I'd do 4 for 3 for Stromer as well, but that is about as high as I would go I think. considering the cap ramifications of this virus-induced cancellation, there is a good chance we (and a bunch of other teams) are going to be in a major cap crunch next season. those previous numbers for cap increases we saw a while back for next season are going to get tossed out the window, imo. To be honest,I wonder what's goin' through Strome's mind after being separated from the sidekick that he broke through with last year. D-Cat had 28 5 on 5 goals last year and Strome had 34 assists and the two didn't play together the whole year and their third wheel was unimpressive most nights. Those two had real chemistry and confidence last year and separating the two young linemates was a major coaching fail as far as I'm concerned. He isn't Arb eligible so it'll be interesting to see how this works out but I have a feeling JC doesn't like him any more than he liked the Joker. I agree somewhat with your sentiment Bob. If two players who are so dynamic together can't produce apart then how good are they really? Strome's highest value is without a doubt 4mil a season. He didn't do himself any favours. Look at their season apart Stan must have realized he put too much out on the Cat. The team would have better been off keeping them together sure, well maybe. Neither player excelled and that is on the player. After all Gretzky and Kurri didn't play together their entire career yet had amazing careers. The list of duos goes on. As for Dmen. I don't understand where BigT keeps dissing on Beaudin. The kid out of what is available is likely to have a good career ahead of him. From junior hockey after just a season in the AHL he has taken direction and developed a game that puts him in a REAL position to play in the NHL. Trading him for fodder or calling him a 7th Dman is ludicrous. So that leaves the remainder of the logjam on D. Boqvist soft if there is a big deal to be made for him do it. He's soft and in his stints he often regresses or gets injured. Hockey players play injured period. Mitchell well in reality I don't belief he is better than Regula so again with the overall situation what it is trade him if he doesn't sign. The last thing needed here is another Hayes situation that was just stupid. Carlsson and Gilbert are worth keeping around just to see how much better they might become. At this time they won't bring back much in a trade so that isn't going to change. The closest thing to say to a Bobby Orr. OK ok a Quinn Hughes in the system is Alec Regula. I absolutely loved loved this trade. The Hawks now have a legit young Dman that if he doesn't become a top four Dman in Chicago it will be somewhere else. The kid is 6'5" inches and last weigh in 211 lbs. The Hawks don't have another one of this guy anywhere. He has proven he can play anywhere and with anyone at any skill level except of course the NHL. This kid is the real deal on the blueline in my opinion. He can play both sides on defense, sees the rink real well, and has NHL patience already, and seldom if ever makes the wrong play. There's so much more but my hockey crush is already showing through I'm afraid. I liked Perlini as many know but for this kid I would have traded him ten times over. After trading for him I watched every knights game I could get through my sports package. Comparative bottom Jake Muzzin, and the sky is the limit from there. |
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Post by doogiew on Apr 8, 2020 8:08:03 GMT -6
Unless there’s some serious traction with this virus in the next couple weeks, I don’t think there’s gonna be a season, or playoffs. Unfortunately the US is getting hammered by this and I don’t see any sign of it slowing down, I fear that it’ll be July before the good ol US of A is cleared for travel, maybe even mid to late July. Hopefully I’m dead wrong, more for the obvious reasons than hockey. Nothing around here will be going till May or even June, it looks like they want the thing dead and gone before we resume normal life. In Detroit, they’ve turned the massive Cobo Hall into makeshift hospital. That place is about 750,000 square feet, and Detroit is one of the worst hit if not the worst. Nurses I know that work over there at the hospitals say it’s gonna be “a long time” before things get normal. So I’m not holding out for much in way of sports. Just hoping we can start next season on time and keep her going with no renewal of this gawd damn thing. My sons Spring Hockey team has a tourney in Michigan on May 15-17. And that’s been cancelled. So I doubt that pro sports is gonna be back anytime soon!!! Yes my nurse friend from Belle River working in Detroit, has told me the same thing. She's the top oncology nurse in North America, yet has shifted to assisting in the fight of Covid 19. We all hope for a quick end to this. God bless all inflicted and to all of you because it's not just our love of hockey that we've been stripped of. Stay safe stay home. After all we can at least have an escape places like here. |
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Post by hsbob on Apr 8, 2020 9:38:27 GMT -6
To be honest,I wonder what's goin' through Strome's mind after being separated from the sidekick that he broke through with last year. D-Cat had 28 5 on 5 goals last year and Strome had 34 assists and the two didn't play together the whole year and their third wheel was unimpressive most nights. Those two had real chemistry and confidence last year and separating the two young linemates was a major coaching fail as far as I'm concerned. He isn't Arb eligible so it'll be interesting to see how this works out but I have a feeling JC doesn't like him any more than he liked the Joker. I agree somewhat with your sentiment Bob. If two players who are so dynamic together can't produce apart then how good are they really? Strome's highest value is without a doubt 4mil a season. He didn't do himself any favours. Look at their season apart Stan must have realized he put too much out on the Cat. The team would have better been off keeping them together sure, well maybe. Neither player excelled and that is on the player. After all Gretzky and Kurri didn't play together their entire career yet had amazing careers. The list of duos goes on. As for Dmen. I don't understand where BigT keeps dissing on Beaudin. The kid out of what is available is likely to have a good career ahead of him. From junior hockey after just a season in the AHL he has taken direction and developed a game that puts him in a REAL position to play in the NHL. Trading him for fodder or calling him a 7th Dman is ludicrous. So that leaves the remainder of the logjam on D. Boqvist soft if there is a big deal to be made for him do it. He's soft and in his stints he often regresses or gets injured. Hockey players play injured period. Mitchell well in reality I don't belief he is better than Regula so again with the overall situation what it is trade him if he doesn't sign. The last thing needed here is another Hayes situation that was just stupid. Carlsson and Gilbert are worth keeping around just to see how much better they might become. At this time they won't bring back much in a trade so that isn't going to change. The closest thing to say to a Bobby Orr. OK ok a Quinn Hughes in the system is Alec Regula. I absolutely loved loved this trade. The Hawks now have a legit young Dman that if he doesn't become a top four Dman in Chicago it will be somewhere else. The kid is 6'5" inches and last weigh in 211 lbs. The Hawks don't have another one of this guy anywhere. He has proven he can play anywhere and with anyone at any skill level except of course the NHL. This kid is the real deal on the blueline in my opinion. He can play both sides on defense, sees the rink real well, and has NHL patience already, and seldom if ever makes the wrong play. There's so much more but my hockey crush is already showing through I'm afraid. I liked Perlini as many know but for this kid I would have traded him ten times over. After trading for him I watched every knights game I could get through my sports package. Comparative bottom Jake Muzzin, and the sky is the limit from there. Hey doogs,I hope all is well with you and your loved ones! We all know the old axiom of needing 200 games to assess a young D-man is dated,young D-men need to breakthrough long before that these days but I still like to see 30-40 consecutive games with the same partner and since Beaudin and Regula have one combined.....I'll keep my powder dry till I see em up. As far as Strome and D-Cat go..... Separating great,veteran forwards is something we do see a lot of because they have the experience and confidence but last year was Strome's breakthrough and D-Cat blew up himself when these two ex junior linemates were reunited. If Strome and D-Cat were separated so one could play with Kane and one could play with Toews,I'd understand but both often saw their minutes cut while playing with Carpenter,Nolander,Smith or Highmore and I don't see how using two young,skilled forwards that way helped their development...….as a matter of fact,both regressed in a big way. We can't forget that Strome missed early season games to a concussion and even more mid-season games to a high ankle sprain this year. Is there any doubt that Kane,D-Cat and Strome put up better numbers if they skated as a line all year? Kane had Carpenter as his center for long stretches...….WTF is that? I'd like to hear a plan to replace Strome from the FO(or from anyone for that matter)if he's moved because we had NO plan to replace AA unless SB counted on an 18yro Dach or Carpenter who had all of 132 NHL games under his belt last summer @28. I guess we can just ride JT till he breaks down. |
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Post by BigT on Apr 8, 2020 9:39:28 GMT -6
Unless there’s some serious traction with this virus in the next couple weeks, I don’t think there’s gonna be a season, or playoffs. Unfortunately the US is getting hammered by this and I don’t see any sign of it slowing down, I fear that it’ll be July before the good ol US of A is cleared for travel, maybe even mid to late July. Hopefully I’m dead wrong, more for the obvious reasons than hockey. Nothing around here will be going till May or even June, it looks like they want the thing dead and gone before we resume normal life. In Detroit, they’ve turned the massive Cobo Hall into makeshift hospital. That place is about 750,000 square feet, and Detroit is one of the worst hit if not the worst. Nurses I know that work over there at the hospitals say it’s gonna be “a long time” before things get normal. So I’m not holding out for much in way of sports. Just hoping we can start next season on time and keep her going with no renewal of this gawd damn thing. My sons Spring Hockey team has a tourney in Michigan on May 15-17. And that’s been cancelled. So I doubt that pro sports is gonna be back anytime soon!!! Yes my nurse friend from Belle River working in Detroit, has told me the same thing. She's the top oncology nurse in North America, yet has shifted to assisting in the fight of Covid 19. We all hope for a quick end to this. God bless all inflicted and to all of you because it's not just our love of hockey that we've been stripped of. Stay safe stay home. After all we can at least have an escape places like here. I’m in Belle River now for the last 5 years. What’s your friends name? Maybe I know her? It’s a smaller community here and most people know each other!!! |
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Post by BigT on Apr 8, 2020 14:00:10 GMT -6
To be honest,I wonder what's goin' through Strome's mind after being separated from the sidekick that he broke through with last year. D-Cat had 28 5 on 5 goals last year and Strome had 34 assists and the two didn't play together the whole year and their third wheel was unimpressive most nights. Those two had real chemistry and confidence last year and separating the two young linemates was a major coaching fail as far as I'm concerned. He isn't Arb eligible so it'll be interesting to see how this works out but I have a feeling JC doesn't like him any more than he liked the Joker. I agree somewhat with your sentiment Bob. If two players who are so dynamic together can't produce apart then how good are they really? Strome's highest value is without a doubt 4mil a season. He didn't do himself any favours. Look at their season apart Stan must have realized he put too much out on the Cat. The team would have better been off keeping them together sure, well maybe. Neither player excelled and that is on the player. After all Gretzky and Kurri didn't play together their entire career yet had amazing careers. The list of duos goes on. As for Dmen. I don't understand where BigT keeps dissing on Beaudin. The kid out of what is available is likely to have a good career ahead of him. From junior hockey after just a season in the AHL he has taken direction and developed a game that puts him in a REAL position to play in the NHL. Trading him for fodder or calling him a 7th Dman is ludicrous. So that leaves the remainder of the logjam on D. Boqvist soft if there is a big deal to be made for him do it. He's soft and in his stints he often regresses or gets injured. Hockey players play injured period. Mitchell well in reality I don't belief he is better than Regula so again with the overall situation what it is trade him if he doesn't sign. The last thing needed here is another Hayes situation that was just stupid. Carlsson and Gilbert are worth keeping around just to see how much better they might become. At this time they won't bring back much in a trade so that isn't going to change. The closest thing to say to a Bobby Orr. OK ok a Quinn Hughes in the system is Alec Regula. I absolutely loved loved this trade. The Hawks now have a legit young Dman that if he doesn't become a top four Dman in Chicago it will be somewhere else. The kid is 6'5" inches and last weigh in 211 lbs. The Hawks don't have another one of this guy anywhere. He has proven he can play anywhere and with anyone at any skill level except of course the NHL. This kid is the real deal on the blueline in my opinion. He can play both sides on defense, sees the rink real well, and has NHL patience already, and seldom if ever makes the wrong play. There's so much more but my hockey crush is already showing through I'm afraid. I liked Perlini as many know but for this kid I would have traded him ten times over. After trading for him I watched every knights game I could get through my sports package. Comparative bottom Jake Muzzin, and the sky is the limit from there. Beaudin is small, I’ve seen him in Jr’s on TV, he’s a classic case of a wheeler and dealer, but like Boqvist, he’s smaller, and offensive. Now we’re trying to teach these kids defense and that’s not what they are. That’s how kids get ruined. Picture drafting Marner or Mathews or Draisaitl etc and asking them right away to play defensive and a 3rd line checking role. Why even draft them? The kids mood turns sour and they won’t wanna play there. Stand the one who drafted the offensive dman, now he wants them to learn to play defense to become a top pairing guy. Defensemen have to have that will to begin with. In Jrs, coaches allow them to take more chances and “outscore” your opponent. Many 8-7 games in Jrs. Hell, I’ve seen 2 games live this year where either my Spitfires or someone else put up 10. That’s just not gonna happen in the NHL. So now they’re gonna take the venom outta the viper and tell him to be something he’s not. I’ve read many reports on how he’s taken a step back, and looks out of sorts. That simply because they’re asking him to be something he’s not. A team cannot draft all small players. It cannot draft all smaller offensive defensemen. I think this team is being run by amateurs, for the generational talent we had, it’s sure being squandered and draft picks are not panning out. Beaudin May be a better fit elsewhere!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Apr 8, 2020 17:20:23 GMT -6
Unless there’s some serious traction with this virus in the next couple weeks, I don’t think there’s gonna be a season, or playoffs. Unfortunately the US is getting hammered by this and I don’t see any sign of it slowing down, I fear that it’ll be July before the good ol US of A is cleared for travel, maybe even mid to late July. Hopefully I’m dead wrong, more for the obvious reasons than hockey. Nothing around here will be going till May or even June, it looks like they want the thing dead and gone before we resume normal life. In Detroit, they’ve turned the massive Cobo Hall into makeshift hospital. That place is about 750,000 square feet, and Detroit is one of the worst hit if not the worst. Nurses I know that work over there at the hospitals say it’s gonna be “a long time” before things get normal. So I’m not holding out for much in way of sports. Just hoping we can start next season on time and keep her going with no renewal of this gawd damn thing. My sons Spring Hockey team has a tourney in Michigan on May 15-17. And that’s been cancelled. So I doubt that pro sports is gonna be back anytime soon!!! yeah, I would agree on the regular season lot happening being a foregone conclusion. I'm really not sure why they are even entertaining the idea of finishing it, tbh. the playoffs are another matter, though. LOTS of money in limbo there. I think they'll eventually move em to June or July IF they get cleared for play. I think it will be a very strange playoff, maybe a double elimination tourney or something like that instead of the usual 4 best of seven series. that's why I said the 'hawks might even sneak in, if they change the format this season, I think most teams will get to participate (because the regular season wasn't able to be finished and most teams still had a shot of making the dance, slim as some of them may have been). yeah, Detroit is getting hammered right now. Talked to a few friends there and it sounds like a scary situation. here's hoping the tide turns here soon. |
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Post by BigT on Apr 9, 2020 7:08:52 GMT -6
Unless there’s some serious traction with this virus in the next couple weeks, I don’t think there’s gonna be a season, or playoffs. Unfortunately the US is getting hammered by this and I don’t see any sign of it slowing down, I fear that it’ll be July before the good ol US of A is cleared for travel, maybe even mid to late July. Hopefully I’m dead wrong, more for the obvious reasons than hockey. Nothing around here will be going till May or even June, it looks like they want the thing dead and gone before we resume normal life. In Detroit, they’ve turned the massive Cobo Hall into makeshift hospital. That place is about 750,000 square feet, and Detroit is one of the worst hit if not the worst. Nurses I know that work over there at the hospitals say it’s gonna be “a long time” before things get normal. So I’m not holding out for much in way of sports. Just hoping we can start next season on time and keep her going with no renewal of this gawd damn thing. My sons Spring Hockey team has a tourney in Michigan on May 15-17. And that’s been cancelled. So I doubt that pro sports is gonna be back anytime soon!!! yeah, I would agree on the regular season lot happening being a foregone conclusion. I'm really not sure why they are even entertaining the idea of finishing it, tbh. the playoffs are another matter, though. LOTS of money in limbo there. I think they'll eventually move em to June or July IF they get cleared for play. I think it will be a very strange playoff, maybe a double elimination tourney or something like that instead of the usual 4 best of seven series. that's why I said the 'hawks might even sneak in, if they change the format this season, I think most teams will get to participate (because the regular season wasn't able to be finished and most teams still had a shot of making the dance, slim as some of them may have been). yeah, Detroit is getting hammered right now. Talked to a few friends there and it sounds like a scary situation. here's hoping the tide turns here soon. I would be ok if they just cancelled the whole thing. No one will be stuck inside watching tv after being stuck inside now. If this somehow ends soon, and they can start the playoffs by June, then it may work. But to start in July or later is stupid and I doubt it works for the better. The few teams that go far are gonna be dead tired to start the season. No matter what they do, I don’t think the Hawks will be part of it. There’s 11 teams ahead of them in the west. If they do a playoffs. I think your right that they’ll shorten the series down, at least for the first 2 series. If they went best of 5 for the first 2 rounds, then best of 7. I think it’ll be workable. Just not starting in the 2 main summer months. Funny thing that baseball is looking to play their games in Arizona. The whole league. Sounds kinda weird, but they’re the least bit by this it seems. I think even they’ll have to condense their season. But, I think most I’ve talked to won’t watch sports much in the summer. Being stuck inside now is killing the tv watching for the summer. Anyways, stay safe my man. It’s always good to chat with you!!! |
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Post by acesandeights on Apr 9, 2020 8:07:57 GMT -6
Unless there’s some serious traction with this virus in the next couple weeks, I don’t think there’s gonna be a season, or playoffs. Unfortunately the US is getting hammered by this and I don’t see any sign of it slowing down, I fear that it’ll be July before the good ol US of A is cleared for travel, maybe even mid to late July. Hopefully I’m dead wrong, more for the obvious reasons than hockey. Nothing around here will be going till May or even June, it looks like they want the thing dead and gone before we resume normal life. In Detroit, they’ve turned the massive Cobo Hall into makeshift hospital. That place is about 750,000 square feet, and Detroit is one of the worst hit if not the worst. Nurses I know that work over there at the hospitals say it’s gonna be “a long time” before things get normal. So I’m not holding out for much in way of sports. Just hoping we can start next season on time and keep her going with no renewal of this gawd damn thing. My sons Spring Hockey team has a tourney in Michigan on May 15-17. And that’s been cancelled. So I doubt that pro sports is gonna be back anytime soon!!! I agree with you; I think this NHL season, including playoffs, is done for. With this virus, things just aren't going to improve that much that quickly. The players health will be the leagues prime focus and it's hard to see them trying to work around restrictions just to have playoffs. There are worse things than no playoffs. Are the players going to sit 6 ft. apart on the bench during the game? They would need a real long bench. And in the dressing room? The players wouldn't be in game shape; they've now been off the ice for a month and it would be a lot longer before any kind of playoffs. Any playoffs would be kind of like training camp. If they started looking at summer for a playoff, it should be remembered next year's training camp would start in September, which wouldn't leave much of an offseason. The players would be off a few months, play in the playoffs, then be off for a while again, then go to training camp. With things like they are now, I could see the league focused more on next season. As far as the draft; since they completed 85% of the regular season, why couldn't they use the final standings when the season was canceled? Use any tiebreakers where necessary, hold the lottery drawing for the lottery teams, then the non lottery teams pick in order of record. Which means the Bruins would pick last. It's a simple method but I wonder if the league will feel the need to fiddle around with the draft and change things around to come up with a draft order. Whatever they do needs to benefit the Blackhawks.  |
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Post by hsbob on Apr 9, 2020 8:57:15 GMT -6
I think the league will do anything to award the cup this year and they might pull it off.
Remote areas like ND and NH have been floated and since two venues won't do,we'd probably see two remote Canadian venues as well....seating capacity being no factor.
There'd of course be no spectators and there'd have to be enough testing capacity to cover anyone entering those venues for any reason. If all are certified negative,the close quarters of the bench,locker room and we know on-ice PO situations are close quarters too wouldn't or (shouldn't)be a factor. This situation would also require some type of quarantine for players and coaches and continued testing for any signs of the virus. Travel would be limited and exclusively charter flights as usual. Piliots,FA's and even cleaning crews and food prep would also need stringent testing.
There are so many variables as far as format that it could spin a guy's head but I don't see how more than eight per conference could be accommodated.....maybe ten. This could easily lead to one game play-ins and wouldn't it be a bitch if a team that had a six point advantage for a spot they were already holding lost one of them?
The first two rounds would have to be five gamers and maybe the conference finals as well.
Since all the players have been able to do is bike,run or home gym,there'd have to be a 7-10 day mini-camp to get in shape enough to stay healthy but who know.....maybe just a few practices.
The loss of PO attendance is gonna be a nightmare as far as HRR,good TV ratings and related revenue might offset the attendance loss a bit.
NOTICE: The above might be nothing but wishful thinking too!
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Post by BigT on Apr 9, 2020 13:43:32 GMT -6
That’s a good point Bob on the HHR. I feel the players will have to take a paycut. Like they did in 2005. The cap will have to go down, and who’s to say the fans come back in droves? Many will be cash strapped and can’t afford the bloated prices. Something is gonna happen. I fear the cap will go down to about 70-75 million. Which means the players will have to take a 15% paycut. I don’t think anything will change except the the cap going down and players are 50/50 with the owners, so the owners aren’t going to be the only ones losing.
I think there’s too many variables to get this done. More than likely I think it gets cancelled completely. It’s gonna cost too much to put this on. No one will be watching due to baseball, basketball all doing the same if it happens. So there’s be minimal tv money. And all the travel and hotel costs plus food etc. I think they’ll pull the chute and start fresh next year. It sucks all around, but I doubt people watch hockey in July/August, especially in an empty or near empty arena. It’s a bad money losing idea. I don’t see myself staying in to watch hockey in the summer. Especially if the Hawks aren’t in it!!!
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Post by T-man2010 on Apr 9, 2020 15:51:00 GMT -6
Just make it a shootout and winner gets the cup.
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Post by vadarx on Apr 9, 2020 17:09:25 GMT -6
Likewise, T!
yeah, I would prefer they just cancel it as well. i agree on the TV ratings, no one is gonna wanna stay inside once this is over. no fans will be allowed to attend the games either, imo.
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Post by vadarx on Apr 9, 2020 17:10:36 GMT -6
Just make it a shootout and winner gets the cup. I like this idea. changes the rules to allow multiple attempts by any player. Toews and Kane on repeat. Cup Champs 2020. |
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Post by doogiew on Apr 10, 2020 5:51:54 GMT -6
Yes my nurse friend from Belle River working in Detroit, has told me the same thing. She's the top oncology nurse in North America, yet has shifted to assisting in the fight of Covid 19. We all hope for a quick end to this. God bless all inflicted and to all of you because it's not just our love of hockey that we've been stripped of. Stay safe stay home. After all we can at least have an escape places like here. I’m in Belle River now for the last 5 years. What’s your friends name? Maybe I know her? It’s a smaller community here and most people know each other!!! Her name is Pam. She her Husband Dave and I grew up together they're great people. I haven't been down in about six years so I've just missed meeting you likely. |
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Post by doogiew on Apr 10, 2020 6:18:19 GMT -6
The playoffs. I agree with everyone else they're not going to really be anything like we've seen. If any kind of playoffs happen at all. I also agree that Bettman is going to want to award the cup. It will have to be something very creative and short and sweet. Arizona would be a desirable venue simply because of it's hot dry climate many viruses can't adapt to such a climate and die off exposed in a very short time. Time inside of the rink would be the most detrimental and that can be somewhat control. The arena as well would have sparse attendance no fans just TV and managerial staff from around the league. As well there would be daily testing of all staff bottom up. It could happen but really unless it's brought north of the border I don't see how it will with Trump being in the cross hairs already.
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Post by BigT on Apr 10, 2020 7:53:46 GMT -6
The playoffs. I agree with everyone else they're not going to really be anything like we've seen. If any kind of playoffs happen at all. I also agree that Bettman is going to want to award the cup. It will have to be something very creative and short and sweet. Arizona would be a desirable venue simply because of it's hot dry climate many viruses can't adapt to such a climate and die off exposed in a very short time. Time inside of the rink would be the most detrimental and that can be somewhat control. The arena as well would have sparse attendance no fans just TV and managerial staff from around the league. As well there would be daily testing of all staff bottom up. It could happen but really unless it's brought north of the border I don't see how it will with Trump being in the cross hairs already. Arizona is the best place for killing that wretched virus, but it’s the worst for hockey arenas . So it’s probably a double edged sword. One edge kills the virus, the other kills the ice. I’m not sure 109F is practical to have 3-4 games a day on. There’s not a litany or arenas to hold these games, so they’ll have to hold the tourney at one arena and first round would be 4 games one day, and 4 the next. I think the ice down there will die and players will get hurt. Also, my buddies cousin plays for the Flames. He’s a UFA. Would you honestly wanna play in those conditions after your contract expires (July 1) for a team that isn’t gonna re-sign you? If he got injured, that could screw with his future horribly as he’s 29, and this is his last longer term deal he could get. If he got injured, he’d likely see one year deals from here on out and have to move every year till he retires. Don’t think that helps guys like him. It’s probably best to just end it. It sucks. I was having a lot of fun coaching my sons team and we had a spring team ready to rock, but, she’s all done. It was a bit depressing, my boy was pretty sick in Jan and beginning of Feb, so he didn’t play his best. Then he got healthy and really started putting on a show. He was getting about 4-6 points a game and we won our last two tourneys. Over half our team got a pneumonia like illness..... hmmmmm. And that was in December and early Jan. Also some of our coaches and parents had the same type thing. I think this has been here longer than they want to admit!!! |
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Post by shooter61 on Apr 10, 2020 8:52:32 GMT -6
I think they should forget about this season and try to start next on time
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Post by hawks27 on Apr 10, 2020 12:10:35 GMT -6
The playoffs. I agree with everyone else they're not going to really be anything like we've seen. If any kind of playoffs happen at all. I also agree that Bettman is going to want to award the cup. It will have to be something very creative and short and sweet. Arizona would be a desirable venue simply because of it's hot dry climate many viruses can't adapt to such a climate and die off exposed in a very short time. Time inside of the rink would be the most detrimental and that can be somewhat control. The arena as well would have sparse attendance no fans just TV and managerial staff from around the league. As well there would be daily testing of all staff bottom up. It could happen but really unless it's brought north of the border I don't see how it will with Trump being in the cross hairs already. Think again about Arizona. My son lives in Scottsdale and we talk every night. The virus is there and he hasn't been out of his place (except for taking out the garbage) for about 2 1/2 weeks now. Luckily he can work from home, but his after hours gigging on guitar has taken a hit. The best idea is just to wait until next season (maybe they should collect the Cup back from St. Louis). I'd hate to think that it would reside there for another year.
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Post by BigT on Apr 10, 2020 15:15:31 GMT -6
The playoffs. I agree with everyone else they're not going to really be anything like we've seen. If any kind of playoffs happen at all. I also agree that Bettman is going to want to award the cup. It will have to be something very creative and short and sweet. Arizona would be a desirable venue simply because of it's hot dry climate many viruses can't adapt to such a climate and die off exposed in a very short time. Time inside of the rink would be the most detrimental and that can be somewhat control. The arena as well would have sparse attendance no fans just TV and managerial staff from around the league. As well there would be daily testing of all staff bottom up. It could happen but really unless it's brought north of the border I don't see how it will with Trump being in the cross hairs already. Think again about Arizona. My son lives in Scottsdale and we talk every night. The virus is there and he hasn't been out of his place (except for taking out the garbage) for about 2 1/2 weeks now. Luckily he can work from home, but his after hours gigging on guitar has taken a hit. The best idea is just to wait until next season (maybe they should collect the Cup back from St. Louis). I'd hate to think that it would reside there for another year.
Remember, in the summer, I doubt that virus lives and thrives in the 106+ heat. Some days are 115. But that’ll kill the ice and the spirit of hockey!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Apr 11, 2020 9:45:10 GMT -6
Think again about Arizona. My son lives in Scottsdale and we talk every night. The virus is there and he hasn't been out of his place (except for taking out the garbage) for about 2 1/2 weeks now. Luckily he can work from home, but his after hours gigging on guitar has taken a hit. The best idea is just to wait until next season (maybe they should collect the Cup back from St. Louis). I'd hate to think that it would reside there for another year.
Remember, in the summer, I doubt that virus lives and thrives in the 106+ heat. Some days are 115. But that’ll kill the ice and the spirit of hockey!!! From what I've read,viruses normally have a weakening of their cell walls and therefore their ability for air-born transmission and a short life on surfaces in warmer temps but this one's displaying a stubbornness. We see growing cases in Miami and NOLA and some viruses like Ebola thrived in high temps. This BASTARD will have killed north of 20,000 Americans by the end of the weekend and will have done it in about a month...….let that sink in above any of the noise! The a-symptomatic ability for this one to spread is a new development in viruses(hence the term 'novel'),the other bad ones and even most flu's knock you on your ass pretty quickly...….this one has frighteningly morphed and doesn't seem to want it's host to die as much as it wants it to transmit it for weeks in some cases...….WE'VE TESTED LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF OUR POPULATION! It's ability to remain deadly on surfaces(hard longer than porous)for hours and up to days is also a bad deal...…..WASH THOSE HANDS! The air-born ability of Covid-19 is a SOB as well,all viruses will have high concentrations in the large and even smaller droplets dispersed by a sneeze or cough but this one has high concentrations in the aerosol dispelled by talking and even by breathing......SIX FEET MIGHT NOT BE ENOUGH! If we continue to social distance,wash our hands and disinfect our surroundings and wear a mask for God's sake...….if not for ourselves,do those things for those we care about. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 12, 2020 20:34:49 GMT -6
i'd imagine they'd shorten the 20/21 season but if they didn't we could possibly have hockey from july to july. : )
can't see that happening, or the season restarting for that matter....but it's a nice thought.
at least they're still talking about it..
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Post by tincup on Apr 13, 2020 0:06:03 GMT -6
i'd imagine they'd shorten the 20/21 season but if they didn't we could possibly have hockey from july to july. : ) can't see that happening, or the season restarting for that matter....but it's a nice thought. at least they're still talking about it.. At this point I doubt I’d even tune in, much as I miss hockey. It would seem more like a sideshow at the carnival rather than the main attraction. JMO. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 13, 2020 0:33:37 GMT -6
At this point I doubt I’d even tune in, much as I miss hockey. It would seem more like a sideshow at the carnival rather than the main attraction. JMO. i get where you're coming from but i'd definitely have to watch. it'd be interesting seeing what the games would be like in an empty rink, though. i really have a hard time imagining. hell...everyone on the ice would basically be "miked up". they'd have to have the games on a 15 minute delay just so someone could bleep out all of the expletives. |
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Post by Tater on Apr 13, 2020 0:44:21 GMT -6
i get where you're coming from but i'd definitely have to watch. it'd be interesting seeing what the games would be like in an empty rink, though. i really have a hard time imagining. hell...everyone on the ice would basically be "miked up".
they'd have to have the games on a 15 minute delay just so someone could bleep out all of the expletives.Good point, I never thought of that. |
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