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Post by hsbob on Jun 8, 2020 7:31:27 GMT -6
When the NHL postseason regresses to a bunch of finesse players hiding behind the refs...…..I'm out! I see enough of that watchin' the Hawks all year. They did get away with some edgy and dirty play but that's not why they won the cup,they were the best defensive team in the PO's and had the best goaltending to go along with the ability to scare a bunch of finesse players. You might like tough hockey but you just don't like the Blues.....I get it. Are you quarantining with Steve Ott?LOL! I’m trying to post some pics from last summer. It’s saying they’re too big. If I figure it out, I’ll put up some pics with Otter. He’s a cool guy. It’s a smaller community around here and everyone knows everyone. He did a meet and greet at the arena here, then we broke out a few drinks for the after party. Then it moved on down to Otts parents place. He laughed about the Hawks. We were talking about the toughness of the Blues and how they’re going to do what they gotta do to win, and if they get away with it, so be it. He also said that Chicago can do the same thing, they don’t wanna play tough anymore. We’ll see. I still don’t think they get away with the mugging that they did. They also lost one of their better grinders in Maroon. I think enough teams complained about their style and I’m sure the league is looking to square up thinks this year. LV got screwed, the Bruins got screwed. They just can’t have massive controversy this year!!! Poor losers always complain about officiating...…..there were TONS of bad and missed calls the last two PO's IMO. "Squaring things up" is what shouldn't happen in officiating any sport,are you saying the league will unfairly assist certain teams? The Hawks didn't pack it in and complain after a brutal call in a game 7 that cost a late GWG...….they went out and got another. There were calls missed against the Blues and others not taken severely enough but that is NOT why they won the cup! Didn't you say they'd miss the PO's this year......you did. Not keeping a cheap,built for the postseason guy like Maroon might bite the blues and he could be a big deal for the Bolts when games become physical again in the PO's. |
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Post by hsbob on Jun 8, 2020 7:54:01 GMT -6
I guess what we find exciting differs. A lotta fans find 3 on 3 hockey exciting enough to have it infest the All Star game...….PO's next? Postseason,physical play is the only thing I recognize about the game any longer,calling ticky tack penalties to protect elite players in the postseason? Just go 3 on 3! A team rode a hot goalie last year I have no issues with physical hockey. I have issues with the goonery that teams like Boston and the blows employ. I have no issue admitting, however, that my main issue with st loo is that it is farking st loo and I despise them, so that surely plays a part in my thinking here. they definitely rode a good goalie, but I dunno if I would call him "hot" for the entire run. if so, he would've won the Conn Smythe (although I believe he, much like Crow in 2013, should have won it). what I meant by that was I think someone rides a guy that wins them series that they shouldn't have, like Roloson in 2006 or JSG in 2003 (although they both lost in 7 in the finals). I don't think that applies to Crow or Binnington. Quick in 2012 would be a fine example. I am with ya on the 3 on 3 crap, I don't want that either. You right,Binnington was more good than great looking at his PO numbers but he did the job required. I'd add 'King Richard's' run to the finals back in '82' to that stood on their head list but the Isle wasn't to be denied their fourth straight cup and nineteenth straight PO series win. I respect your admitting your main issue with the Blues is how much you despise them,St Louis winning the cup wouldn't sit well with Hawk fans regardless of how they won it. Last place shouldn't sit well either! |
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Post by BigT on Jun 8, 2020 8:35:35 GMT -6
I’m trying to post some pics from last summer. It’s saying they’re too big. If I figure it out, I’ll put up some pics with Otter. He’s a cool guy. It’s a smaller community around here and everyone knows everyone. He did a meet and greet at the arena here, then we broke out a few drinks for the after party. Then it moved on down to Otts parents place. He laughed about the Hawks. We were talking about the toughness of the Blues and how they’re going to do what they gotta do to win, and if they get away with it, so be it. He also said that Chicago can do the same thing, they don’t wanna play tough anymore. We’ll see. I still don’t think they get away with the mugging that they did. They also lost one of their better grinders in Maroon. I think enough teams complained about their style and I’m sure the league is looking to square up thinks this year. LV got screwed, the Bruins got screwed. They just can’t have massive controversy this year!!! Poor losers always complain about officiating...…..there were TONS of bad and missed calls the last two PO's IMO. "Squaring things up" is what shouldn't happen in officiating any sport,are you saying the league will unfairly assist certain teams? The Hawks didn't pack it in and complain after a brutal call in a game 7 that cost a late GWG...….they went out and got another. There were calls missed against the Blues and others not taken severely enough but that is NOT why they won the cup! Didn't you say they'd miss the PO's this year......you did. Not keeping a cheap,built for the postseason guy like Maroon might bite the blues and he could be a big deal for the Bolts when games become physical again in the PO's. Heyyy, I didn’t lose anything! The league isn’t squaring anything up. They’re just gonna call it more properly. They’ve even said so in press conferences after last years debacle. Remember Neely rifling the water bottle through the wall? Again, I do enjoy the tough hockey. I just don’t see how a guy can skate from the redline and hit a guy full speed when the puck is gone? There’s rules against that. It’s called charging. The Blues seemed to play by a different set of rules compared to the rest. That slew foot from Bozak in the final game was a thing the courts should a been involved with, which is what led to the bruins laying into the league. Mario Lemieux warned in the 90s that the league was a “garage” league, or in English, it’s a garbage league. If skilled players can’t play and are being mugged, why even have them? They’re the ones that bring the fans in, make the big money, yet the league doesn’t allow them to do their jobs. Playoff hockey was supposed to be tough, as in the players play harder, the players hit more, the back checking is tighter, not players getting mugged and their pic of their woman stolen from their wallet. The intensity is supposed to be ramped up, not the goonery. I did say the Blues wouldn’t make it. I don’t see them as that great. They were in the weakest division this year. That helped, but I sure as hell don’t see them getting away with the same play as last year. The league basically said so!!! |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 10, 2020 8:24:45 GMT -6
I did say the Blues wouldn’t make it. I don’t see them as that great. They were in the weakest division this year. That helped, but I sure as hell don’t see them getting away with the same play as last year. The league basically said so!!! seriously? |
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Post by BigT on Jun 10, 2020 12:14:55 GMT -6
I did say the Blues wouldn’t make it. I don’t see them as that great. They were in the weakest division this year. That helped, but I sure as hell don’t see them getting away with the same play as last year. The league basically said so!!! seriously? You really think the central is that great? Colorado hasn’t proved anything, Dallas is still meh, Minnesota sucks, Chicago is last place, Nashville also had a bad year struggling for a playoff spot most of the year, and it’s huge clear that Winnipeg took a step back. St. Louis is the best team in a bad bunch. I really don’t see how that’s an outrageous statement? The East was clearly better, and the Pacific division had Edmonton, Calgary, Vegas and Van is on the up and up. The central just doesn’t boast that type of power!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Jun 10, 2020 16:48:27 GMT -6
You really think the central is that great? Colorado hasn’t proved anything, Dallas is still meh, Minnesota sucks, Chicago is last place, Nashville also had a bad year struggling for a playoff spot most of the year, and it’s huge clear that Winnipeg took a step back. St. Louis is the best team in a bad bunch. I really don’t see how that’s an outrageous statement? The East was clearly better, and the Pacific division had Edmonton, Calgary, Vegas and Van is on the up and up. The central just doesn’t boast that type of power!!! Blues have the 2nd best record in hockey w/o their best player...….it's not their fault the rest of the division sucks. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 10, 2020 17:25:15 GMT -6
You really think the central is that great? Colorado hasn’t proved anything, Dallas is still meh, Minnesota sucks, Chicago is last place, Nashville also had a bad year struggling for a playoff spot most of the year, and it’s huge clear that Winnipeg took a step back. St. Louis is the best team in a bad bunch. I really don’t see how that’s an outrageous statement? The East was clearly better, and the Pacific division had Edmonton, Calgary, Vegas and Van is on the up and up. The central just doesn’t boast that type of power!!! CENTRAL VS. PACIFIC st. loo 14-4-4 avs 11-6-2 dallas 10-3-3 wpg 13-6-0 preds 8-10-4 minny 14-7-2 hawks 12-8-3 total 82-44-18 for a .632 points percentage. PACIFIC VS. CENTRAL vegas 8-8-1 oilers 9-9-2 flames 7-8-4 canucks 9-6-3 coyotes 7-8-2 duckies 7-11-2 kings 8-7-1 sharks 7-10-0 total 62-67-15 for a .483 points percentage. www.hockey-reference.com/leagues/NHL_2020_standings.html |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 10, 2020 17:44:22 GMT -6
gotta agree with gt on this one. if we are comparing central vs pacific, the central is the better division, imo. by a pretty good amount. all the cali teams suck. Edmonton has 2 great players but otherwise suck. az is meh but has some potential, likewise with Calgary. Vancouver is going to be the cream of that division in a year or two, but they aren't there yet. vegas rules the roost for now, but they best get to winning here soon, cuz their window is closing.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 10, 2020 17:50:24 GMT -6
and yes...that's nylander's real name.
and is that a mullet on kane there? i hope so.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 10, 2020 18:57:21 GMT -6
gotta agree with gt on this one. if we are comparing central vs pacific, the central is the better division, imo. by a pretty good amount. all the cali teams suck. Edmonton has 2 great players but otherwise suck. az is meh but has some potential, likewise with Calgary. Vancouver is going to be the cream of that division in a year or two, but they aren't there yet. vegas rules the roost for now, but they best get to winning here soon, cuz their window is closing. damn! now i'm going to have to rethink my stance on this. : ) |
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Post by Tater on Jun 10, 2020 22:44:08 GMT -6
and yes...that's nylander's real name.and is that a mullet on kane there? i hope so. I though you had a seizure while typing it.  And I bet it's been a loooong time since those guys carried in their own equipment. Maybe their Mom's dropped them off too.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 10, 2020 23:08:38 GMT -6
and yes...that's nylander's real name.and is that a mullet on kane there? i hope so. I though you had a seizure while typing it.
there's at least one longer name in nhl history. Jarome Arthur-Leigh Adekunle Tig Junior Elvis Iginla edit: oops. iginla's name is 3 letters shorter. but iggy's name is longer than william nylander's. (William Andrew Michael Junior Nylander Altelius) |
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Post by BigT on Jun 11, 2020 6:10:21 GMT -6
You really think the central is that great? Colorado hasn’t proved anything, Dallas is still meh, Minnesota sucks, Chicago is last place, Nashville also had a bad year struggling for a playoff spot most of the year, and it’s huge clear that Winnipeg took a step back. St. Louis is the best team in a bad bunch. I really don’t see how that’s an outrageous statement? The East was clearly better, and the Pacific division had Edmonton, Calgary, Vegas and Van is on the up and up. The central just doesn’t boast that type of power!!! CENTRAL VS. PACIFIC st. loo 14-4-4 avs 11-6-2 dallas 10-3-3 wpg 13-6-0 preds 8-10-4 minny 14-7-2 hawks 12-8-3 total 82-44-18 for a .632 points percentage. PACIFIC VS. CENTRAL vegas 8-8-1 oilers 9-9-2 flames 7-8-4 canucks 9-6-3 coyotes 7-8-2 duckies 7-11-2 kings 8-7-1 sharks 7-10-0 total 62-67-15 for a .483 points percentage. www.hockey-reference.com/leagues/NHL_2020_standings.html Records of not. Vegas is probably the team to beat. The Oilers got a ton to prove, and the two best players in hockey. Calgary hasn’t proved anything, but they could be a team that goes pretty far. Van is right there with Colorado as teams that haven’t proved a thing yet, but are both on the up swing. Nashville’s window has probably closed. Same with Chicago and Winnipeg. I just don’t buy St. Louis, sorry. We’ll see soon enough. If they’re allowed to carry on like last year, they’ll never lose. The league would lose a lot of clout if they allow that to happen again. They had an awful playoffs last year and admitted it too!!! |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 11, 2020 6:56:03 GMT -6
Records of not. Vegas is probably the team to beat. The Oilers got a ton to prove, and the two best players in hockey. Calgary hasn’t proved anything, but they could be a team that goes pretty far. Van is right there with Colorado as teams that haven’t proved a thing yet, but are both on the up swing. Nashville’s window has probably closed. Same with Chicago and Winnipeg. I just don’t buy St. Louis, sorry. We’ll see soon enough. If they’re allowed to carry on like last year, they’ll never lose. The league would lose a lot of clout if they allow that to happen again. They had an awful playoffs last year and admitted it too!!! no doubt vegas is one of the picks to win it. but playing in the pacific definitely helps their numbers. vegas was 7-5-3 against the atlantic division, 9-5-2 against the metro and 8-8-1 against the central. decent numbers i suppose. but against their own division they were a stellar 15-6-2. i agree that we'll see, but disagree that it will be soon enough. : ) i don't give a monkey's arse who wins as long as it isn't the blues. or nashville. |
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Post by hsbob on Jun 11, 2020 8:56:08 GMT -6
CENTRAL VS. PACIFIC st. loo 14-4-4 avs 11-6-2 dallas 10-3-3 wpg 13-6-0 preds 8-10-4 minny 14-7-2 hawks 12-8-3 total 82-44-18 for a .632 points percentage. PACIFIC VS. CENTRAL vegas 8-8-1 oilers 9-9-2 flames 7-8-4 canucks 9-6-3 coyotes 7-8-2 duckies 7-11-2 kings 8-7-1 sharks 7-10-0 total 62-67-15 for a .483 points percentage. www.hockey-reference.com/leagues/NHL_2020_standings.html Records of not. Vegas is probably the team to beat. The Oilers got a ton to prove, and the two best players in hockey. Calgary hasn’t proved anything, but they could be a team that goes pretty far. Van is right there with Colorado as teams that haven’t proved a thing yet, but are both on the up swing. Nashville’s window has probably closed. Same with Chicago and Winnipeg. I just don’t buy St. Louis, sorry. We’ll see soon enough. If they’re allowed to carry on like last year, they’ll never lose. The league would lose a lot of clout if they allow that to happen again. They had an awful playoffs last year and admitted it too!!! The Blues don't play the 'over the edge' physical style in the regular season that you credit for their success in last year's PO's yet they're still the 2nd best team in the league from what I see. They've allowed the 8th fewest goals in the league,they've scored the 11th most without one of the game's greatest offensive superstars and are a 5th best +32...….what DON"T you see? The Blues did get away with some dirty play last time and they might not this time but they're still one of the best defensive teams when it matters with a HC that gets everyone on board...….these things are important in the postseason IMO. We don't have to like it. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 11, 2020 17:46:55 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Jun 11, 2020 18:23:52 GMT -6
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Post by jimakablkhwks918 on Jun 12, 2020 9:28:51 GMT -6
Heard a brief clip of Kane speaking at the 5/3 practice rink...he was careful with his words, but stated that while the league is releasing a lot of press notices with dates and plans, that the players are not all on board, and have concerns about their health and their money, and that all this going don is not nearly as certain as the league is portraying it.
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Post by shooter61 on Jun 12, 2020 9:36:55 GMT -6
I had said that earlier, talked to a good buddy of mine , who is a scout for St, Louis, he had said they have lots to work out , families , money, health and travel, the way Gary is talking it is just a mater of time and where, but he says thats far from the truth
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 12, 2020 19:46:51 GMT -6
i wouldn't be too surprised if vancouver emerges as the other one because B.C.'s premier said he would "grant the league special COVID-19 quarantine protocols."
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Post by vadarx on Jun 12, 2020 20:23:14 GMT -6
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.....
who didn't see this coming? interesting they want a Canadian city to be the other host. article says Toronto is the preferred choice. I gotta think it'll be an eastern city. same as I said before, I think they should do it in a city where the home team isn't playing. Ottawa it is, lol.
I'm sure it'll be Toronto, though. anyone know which hub will have the Finals? if Toronto is the other hub, I gotta think it'll be there.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 12, 2020 21:12:52 GMT -6
I'm sure it'll be Toronto, though. well....it is the center of the hockey universe after all. : ) idk about vancouver and toronto specifically, but ontario has over 31,700 current confirmed cases (almost a third of the nation's) and 2,333 cases per million people while B.C. has just over 2700 current cases and 585 cases per million people. i'd hope that would figure into their decision. |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 13, 2020 4:17:12 GMT -6
I'm sure it'll be Toronto, though. well....it is the center of the hockey universe after all. : ) idk about vancouver and toronto specifically, but ontario has over 31,700 current confirmed cases (almost a third of the nation's) and 2,333 cases per million people while B.C. has just over 2700 current cases and 585 cases per million people. i'd hope that would figure into their decision. you would hope..... |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 13, 2020 5:45:39 GMT -6
This is a unique situation so nothing to compare it to but man...is it dead out there for hockey news of any kind.
I know the second season is far from being confirmed but i would've thought there'd be some chatter out there...league wise or locally.
The draft is getting more print which is fine by me but it'd be nice to hear some tidbits from training camps.
Are the press not allowed in? Anyone know?
I need a hockey hit bad...i'm dying here man....
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Post by hsbob on Jun 13, 2020 9:29:38 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Jun 13, 2020 15:47:15 GMT -6
sigh..... yeah the Bowman comments in the sun-times article you posted in the McD thread pretty much read like he has the green light to start moving the core. pretty disheartening that Bowman seemingly is going to keep his job yet again..... |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 15, 2020 19:58:31 GMT -6
gary seems bound and determined to finish this season.
edit: interesting comment and well said from kane.
i assume he's talking about the amount of testing to be done.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 15, 2020 20:32:40 GMT -6
so when they say tested every day, do they mean swabbed every day? I dunno why I just realized now how much that is going to suck for the players. I'd raise my demands to return just because of that.....
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 15, 2020 20:48:32 GMT -6
so when they say tested every day, do they mean swabbed every day? I dunno why I just realized now how much that is going to suck for the players. I'd raise my demands to return just because of that..... no idea. is it as bad as it looks? it doesn't look very pleasant. that thing goes in a long ways. it looks more like a brain swab. |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 16, 2020 0:01:08 GMT -6
so when they say tested every day, do they mean swabbed every day? I dunno why I just realized now how much that is going to suck for the players. I'd raise my demands to return just because of that..... no idea. is it as bad as it looks? it doesn't look very pleasant. that thing goes in a long ways. it looks more like a brain swab. it feels like a brain swab as well. |
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