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Post by davebrau on May 20, 2020 19:44:18 GMT -6
not that they'd do anything, but interested if they do come back to play, no idea how they would pull this off though..
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Post by BigT on May 20, 2020 20:45:25 GMT -6
I still feel the season is lost. I give em credit for trying, but I just don’t see how this is possible. If they do this, and one player gets sick, it’ll be a disaster for the league. They’d have to cease operations again, and face the backlash. The AHL shut down, and I think the NHL will too.
Plus I also think tv ratings will end up a disaster. Most people are gonna want to get out after this lockdown and not be stuck inside. If this happened in October/November/December or even January, they’d have enough time and people’s attention to get it all in with very good ratings. I still doubt they get this going, but we’ll see!!!
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Post by galaxytrash on May 20, 2020 21:37:11 GMT -6
i said i was done speculating until something was written in stone, but i can't help myself.
the first series would be a best of 5, the rest would be best of 7.
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Post by Tater on May 20, 2020 23:09:24 GMT -6
i said i was done speculating until something was written in stone, but i can't help myself. the first series would be a best of 5, the rest would be best of 7. Can't say I like this, but yet all the time off might hurt the players conditioning if they're not playing again until next year. When was the last time the teams practiced together? |
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Post by galaxytrash on May 20, 2020 23:30:39 GMT -6
i said i was done speculating until something was written in stone, but i can't help myself. the first series would be a best of 5, the rest would be best of 7. Can't say I like this, but yet all the time off might hurt the players conditioning if they're not playing again until next year. When was the last time the teams practiced together? would've been right around march 11th, the date of their last game. +/- 70 days is a long time but at least every team is in the same boat. |
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Post by Tater on May 21, 2020 0:02:35 GMT -6
Can't say I like this, but yet all the time off might hurt the players conditioning if they're not playing again until next year. When was the last time the teams practiced together? would've been right around march 11th, the date of their last game. +/- 70 days is a long time but at least every team is in the same boat. I phrased that wrong. I meant that if they don't have a playoff, it won't be until October until they play again. |
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Post by hsbob on May 21, 2020 8:10:17 GMT -6
i said i was done speculating until something was written in stone, but i can't help myself. the first series would be a best of 5, the rest would be best of 7. At least we wouldn't have the lowest point total in the PO's.....that honor goes to the Habs. The lack of practice and conditioning could lead to some interesting 1st round results and maybe some in the 2nd too since the buy team would be comin' in cold against teams that just won a tough 5 game series. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on May 21, 2020 9:55:06 GMT -6
Of course it has to be against the Oilers 🙄 if the Hawks lose I'll never here the end of it here in Edmonton. At least the Hawks core have playoff experience on their side.
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Post by BigT on May 21, 2020 12:16:02 GMT -6
Of course it has to be against the Oilers 🙄 if the Hawks lose I'll never here the end of it here in Edmonton. At least the Hawks core have playoff experience on their side. Depending on how much rev up time and games they would get, I think the Hawks would get swept. They just don’t and won’t have the answers for McDavid and Draisaitl. The defense would be exposed, and it sucks that the Oilers would have such an easy path to get going. The Oilers also have a heavy heavy fore check that I think the Hawks get exposed. The worst part is Bowman gets to hang his hat on a playoff berth that was a total F****** gimme and I can’t believe how the dice have rolled for this fella. I’ve never seen anyone have so much luck this guy gets. Unreal it is!!! |
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Post by number9 on May 21, 2020 12:38:12 GMT -6
i said i was done speculating until something was written in stone, but i can't help myself. the first series would be a best of 5, the rest would be best of 7. At least we wouldn't have the lowest point total in the PO's.....that honor goes to the Habs. The lack of practice and conditioning could lead to some interesting 1st round results and maybe some in the 2nd too since the buy team would be comin' in cold against teams that just won a tough 5 game series. I was thinking the same thing. I'm expecting a lot of upsets. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the cup go to a team that wouldn't normally have been in the playoffs. |
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Post by vadarx on May 21, 2020 13:29:56 GMT -6
my understanding on reading up on this is that the teams with a bye would get a 3 game round robin while the "first round" was being played. makes sense, as those higher seeded team would be at a disadvantage if they came in cold.
personally don't see this happening until July at the very earliest. border crossings aren't happening until the end of June.
as far as us drawing the Oil, we went 2-1 against them during the season. not thrilled about having to play against McDavid and Draisaitl, but they don't exactly have a stellar d group either, so it might actually be a decent draw.
that being said, all I see looking at those seedings is an easy path for the blows to win the west again.....
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Post by vadarx on May 21, 2020 13:34:20 GMT -6
I'd also add that it is hilarious that the entire Central gets in and the only teams left out are in the Pacific..... that division has been shit for a while now, I hope they stick with this format because that division doesn't deserve to get any more teams in....
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Post by BigT on May 21, 2020 17:42:10 GMT -6
I'd also add that it is hilarious that the entire Central gets in and the only teams left out are in the Pacific..... that division has been shit for a while now, I hope they stick with this format because that division doesn't deserve to get any more teams in.... I think the best way the NHL could go is top 16 get in. Even if all 16 were from the same conference. I would love to see the top 16 teams get in. It’s an absolute shame when a shtty team gets in from one conference, and in the other there’s a team with 10 more points than the last place team in the other conference and they don’t get in. Eff all the divisional bs, just have divisional play for travel reasons. Let the Hawks play the Wings more often etc!!! |
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Post by galaxytrash on May 21, 2020 20:12:28 GMT -6
Of course it has to be against the Oilers 🙄 if the Hawks lose I'll never here the end of it here in Edmonton. At least the Hawks core have playoff experience on their side.drysaddle, mcdavid and nugent-hopkins have 39 p/o games combined. maatta has 69 games by himself. hell...there might even be a few others on the hawks with more. : ) gotta' think positive, man! |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on May 21, 2020 20:48:10 GMT -6
Of course it has to be against the Oilers 🙄 if the Hawks lose I'll never here the end of it here in Edmonton. At least the Hawks core have playoff experience on their side.drysaddle, mcdavid and nugent-hopkins have 39 p/o games combined. maatta has 69 games by himself. hell...there might even be a few others on the hawks with more. : ) gotta' think positive, man! Unlike the other person who quoted me, I think positive 😊 the Hawks were 2-1 vs the Oilers this year plus some of the older guys on Chicago will be well rested, de Haan thinks he'll be back to play and yes Maatta isn't fast but he's built for playoff hockey and as you said, he has more playoff games than the top 3 Oilers combined. Plus I like Crow a lot more than Smith. And don't forget guys like Smith and Carpenter, they're the types of guys you need in the playoffs. I highly doubt the Oilers will sweep the Hawks. |
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Post by galaxytrash on May 21, 2020 21:19:08 GMT -6
At least we wouldn't have the lowest point total in the PO's.....that honor goes to the Habs. The lack of practice and conditioning could lead to some interesting 1st round results and maybe some in the 2nd too since the buy team would be comin' in cold against teams that just won a tough 5 game series. at the break in the season, that pie graph i used to show had the habs at 0.2% chance and the hawks at 3.4% to make the playoffs, never mind win the cup (the 2 lowest in the league by a long ways). so if you went to vegas and dropped a C-note on a hawks/habs cup final, you'd most likely be a billionaire. : ) i agree with you though. there's upsets every year in the playoffs but i think in this particular situation the longshots might not be the worst bet. a lot of a team's successes this year will have a lot to do with the trainers, about how diligently they keep in contact with their players and about how effective their "off season" training regimens are. and it'll have a lot to do with the players too, of course...if they're actually training hard or just going through the motions. anyways...if it fires up again, it's a new season, just like any other playoffs. edit: actually, the same site that does the pie graphs just put out the chances for every team in the playoffs to win the cup. it has the hawks at .2% and the habs at 0%. : ) i believe these numbers were still based on the normal playoff format. they said they'd update once the playoff situation is finalized. moneypuck.com/predictions.htmsome weird numbers on there. like minny picked ahead of st. loo to win the cup among others. |
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Post by galaxytrash on May 21, 2020 22:32:37 GMT -6
we'll find out soon if the playoffs are a go or a no go.
seems like they might be on, though.
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Post by Tater on May 21, 2020 23:29:24 GMT -6
drysaddle, mcdavid and nugent-hopkins have 39 p/o games combined. maatta has 69 games by himself. hell...there might even be a few others on the hawks with more. : ) gotta' think positive, man! Unlike the other person who quoted me, I think positive 😊 the Hawks were 2-1 vs the Oilers this year plus some of the older guys on Chicago will be well rested, de Haan thinks he'll be back to play and yes Maatta isn't fast but he's built for playoff hockey and as you said, he has more playoff games than the top 3 Oilers combined. Plus I like Crow a lot more than Smith. And don't forget guys like Smith and Carpenter, they're the types of guys you need in the playoffs. I highly doubt the Oilers will sweep the Hawks.
I'm starting to pity the Oilers. 
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Post by OldTimeHawky on May 21, 2020 23:40:11 GMT -6
Unlike the other person who quoted me, I think positive 😊 the Hawks were 2-1 vs the Oilers this year plus some of the older guys on Chicago will be well rested, de Haan thinks he'll be back to play and yes Maatta isn't fast but he's built for playoff hockey and as you said, he has more playoff games than the top 3 Oilers combined. Plus I like Crow a lot more than Smith. And don't forget guys like Smith and Carpenter, they're the types of guys you need in the playoffs. I highly doubt the Oilers will sweep the Hawks.
I'm starting to pity the Oilers.
😆 I'd never say that. Any team can win the Cup, once things get going and a team gets momentum, anything can happen. If the Oilers beat the Hawks, I hate to say this, but they'll have a good chance to win. They're big, young, and skilled. But like I said, the Hawks have experience. I didn't think they'd make the playoffs being 6pts out but I just wanted them to squeak in cause of the guys I mentioned, plus Saad is built for playoff hockey and guys like Kampf and Highmore do the little things that wins playoff games. Not to mention Dach getting a taste of playoff hockey, I don't like betting but I'll put money on him being the Hawks next captain. I'm just excited there's hockey talk and possibly hockey this year considering the pandemic. |
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Post by Tater on May 22, 2020 0:00:32 GMT -6
<abbr data-timestamp="1590126011000" title="May 22, 2020 0:40:11 GMT -5" class="o-timestamp time">May 22, 2020 0:40:11 GMT -5</abbr> OldTimeHawky said
😆 I'd never say that. Any team can win the Cup, once things get going and a team gets momentum, anything can happen. If the Oilers beat the Hawks, I hate to say this, but they'll have a good chance to win. They're big, young, and skilled. But like I said, the Hawks have experience. I didn't think they'd make the playoffs being 6pts out but I just wanted them to squeak in cause of the guys I mentioned, plus Saad is built for playoff hockey and guys like Kampf and Highmore do the little things that wins playoff games. Not to mention Dach getting a taste of playoff hockey, I don't like betting but I'll put money on him being the Hawks next captain. I'm just excited there's hockey talk and possibly hockey this year considering the pandemic. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I wasn't trying to poke fun at you guys. I'm optimistic too and you two made great points. Anything can happen. Hopefully they stay in it long enough for the yewts to get a taste of playoff wins.
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Post by vadarx on May 22, 2020 0:35:39 GMT -6
drysaddle, mcdavid and nugent-hopkins have 39 p/o games combined. maatta has 69 games by himself. hell...there might even be a few others on the hawks with more. : ) gotta' think positive, man! Unlike the other person who quoted me, I think positive 😊 the Hawks were 2-1 vs the Oilers this year plus some of the older guys on Chicago will be well rested, de Haan thinks he'll be back to play and yes Maatta isn't fast but he's built for playoff hockey and as you said, he has more playoff games than the top 3 Oilers combined. Plus I like Crow a lot more than Smith. And don't forget guys like Smith and Carpenter, they're the types of guys you need in the playoffs. I highly doubt the Oilers will sweep the Hawks. I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't love another shot at Mike Smith..... we never should've lost to that shitty team that year..... chances Shawzy is back? wouldn't that be entertaining..... |
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Post by Tater on May 22, 2020 1:14:16 GMT -6
I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't love another shot at Mike Smith..... we never should've lost to that shitty team that year..... chances Shawzy is back? wouldn't that be entertaining.....Ya just know he is itching to get at it with someone.
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Post by doogiew on May 22, 2020 4:42:01 GMT -6
I don't really agree with the proposed playoff format but if that's what it takes to have the Cup hoisted by anyone just do it. One thing about the format is that it will provide some legitimacy to the whole thing as all teams that were't mathematically eliminated will get their kick at the can.
As for the Hawks chances. Well you all seen them play all season. This was a very streaky team both when it came to winning or losing. With Colliton at the reins taking his marching orders from Stan I give them zero chances at getting out of the first round. Re-activating injured out of shape players from the DL is also stupid. It's a fast track right back onto the DL. Where they would miss the start of next season.
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Post by galaxytrash on May 22, 2020 4:51:39 GMT -6
As for the Hawks chances. Well you all seen them play all season. This was a very streaky team both when it came to winning or losing. With Colliton at the reins taking his marching orders from Stan I give them zero chances at getting out of the first round. Re-activating injured out of shape players from the DL is also stupid. It's a fast track right back onto the DL. Where they would miss the start of next season. ok doogs....i'll let you know how it turns out. |
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Post by hsbob on May 22, 2020 6:55:59 GMT -6
I'm starting to pity the Oilers.
😆 I'd never say that. Any team can win the Cup, once things get going and a team gets momentum, anything can happen. If the Oilers beat the Hawks, I hate to say this, but they'll have a good chance to win. They're big, young, and skilled. But like I said, the Hawks have experience. I didn't think they'd make the playoffs being 6pts out but I just wanted them to squeak in cause of the guys I mentioned, plus Saad is built for playoff hockey and guys like Kampf and Highmore do the little things that wins playoff games. Not to mention Dach getting a taste of playoff hockey, I don't like betting but I'll put money on him being the Hawks next captain. I'm just excited there's hockey talk and possibly hockey this year considering the pandemic. Wish I was in agreement but I do find your optimism therapeutic. So was watching the boys close out the Wild yesterday(local re-broadcast),I kinda forgot how physical and effective the Shaw,Bickell,Stalberg line was in that series. www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKFsZqbP2Uo |
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Post by doogiew on May 22, 2020 9:17:57 GMT -6
😆 I'd never say that. Any team can win the Cup, once things get going and a team gets momentum, anything can happen. If the Oilers beat the Hawks, I hate to say this, but they'll have a good chance to win. They're big, young, and skilled. But like I said, the Hawks have experience. I didn't think they'd make the playoffs being 6pts out but I just wanted them to squeak in cause of the guys I mentioned, plus Saad is built for playoff hockey and guys like Kampf and Highmore do the little things that wins playoff games. Not to mention Dach getting a taste of playoff hockey, I don't like betting but I'll put money on him being the Hawks next captain. I'm just excited there's hockey talk and possibly hockey this year considering the pandemic. Wish I was in agreement but I do find your optimism therapeutic. So was watching the boys close out the Wild yesterday(local re-broadcast),I kina forgot how physical and effective the Shaw,Bickell,Stalberg line was in that series. www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKFsZqbP2Uo There just isn't enough balance on this team. I am hoping that they at least get some form of playoff experience. The Hawks third and fourth lines could always be counted on to contribute. Uncle Dale had left the shelves stocked pretty well with"character players". This present team as talent that with the right HC could be better. I don't think Colliton is all to blame but he is his masters puppet. |
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Post by Tater on May 22, 2020 11:26:26 GMT -6
wonder how much if any they will expand the rosters. Black Aces this year?
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Post by hsbob on May 22, 2020 13:15:10 GMT -6
wonder how much if any they will expand the rosters. Black Aces this year? Not to be a downer but who can we really expect to make an impact at the NHL postseason level? |
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Post by Tater on May 22, 2020 13:19:53 GMT -6
wonder how much if any they will expand the rosters. Black Aces this year? Not to be a downer but who can we really expect to make an impact at the NHL postseason level? Gilbert? |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on May 22, 2020 14:39:17 GMT -6
Not to be a downer but who can we really expect to make an impact at the NHL postseason level? Gilbert? He'd look good vs Kassian and the Oilers goons. Or maybe Osipov or McCoshen if they need size, but they'll go with Koekkoek and Seeler. As much as I don't like giving a compliment to Bowman, he did get guys that are built for playoff hockey, the problem was they had to gel fast and get to the playoffs but their coach failed them. This pandemic might be great for the Hawks if they allow the 24 team playoff, they sneak in and some banged up players had time to recover. |
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