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Post by BigT on Aug 31, 2020 19:22:13 GMT -6
Your impression of these players is as thorough as anyone's jack and my ONLY criticism of Dach is FO's.......the kid has tons of other abilities. Yeah,I pointed out decent assist totals from D-Cat but he's certainly no Kane or Panarin........probably why he makes 60% of what they do. Panarin's yet to hit the 40 goal mark too. Dach is also going to have to learn to shoot the puck. Seems like he hesitates to pull the trigger. This is why the Hawks should have sent him to Jrs, and had him to work on certain things. He would have gotten 100+ points, and probably got better at shooting and faceoffs. It’s probably the best thing for a young centerman!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 23:37:23 GMT -6
then they need a 2LC I don't mind trading Strome, I think he's a waste of space Personally... sure he wins faceoffs but he has little offensive talent, plays zero defense and is slow as molasses 105pts in 164 games is more than a little talent IMO. D-Cat and Strome were like Peas and Carrots last year with the numbers to match......JC turned em both into rotten vegetables when he separated them and he did so right off the bat. Most of those points came in one insanely hot stretch when he joined the Blackhawks last season, he was awful in Arizona prior to that, got cold at end of last season and was terrible start to finish this season. If Dach isn't a 2LC certainly Strome isn't, that's my take. If they can get a good/decent piece for Strome I do it but I am not advocating to give him away for nothing, either. |
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Post by hsbob on Sept 1, 2020 7:51:54 GMT -6
105pts in 164 games is more than a little talent IMO. D-Cat and Strome were like Peas and Carrots last year with the numbers to match......JC turned em both into rotten vegetables when he separated them and he did so right off the bat. Most of those points came in one insanely hot stretch when he joined the Blackhawks last season, he was awful in Arizona prior to that, got cold at end of last season and was terrible start to finish this season. If Dach isn't a 2LC certainly Strome isn't, that's my take. If they can get a good/decent piece for Strome I do it but I am not advocating to give him away for nothing, either. Strome saw 48 games over three years with a AZ team that has a terrible record with kids so I'll go off the bigger sample size from last year. The chemistry with D-Cat from Jr's was undeniable and it resulted in career numbers for both while carrying a slug like Perrlini but a PUNK HC couldn't stand it,just like he couldn't stand watchin' K&T show up the rest of the team while skating together............both tandems had career years only to be separated from the get go. The kid never looked the same after return from a high ankle sprain either. If 12gls 38pts and a 47 FO% in 56gms is terrible from start to finish,then what do you consider 8gls 23pts and a 33 FO% in 64gms? The heir apparent? |
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Post by Tater on Sept 1, 2020 12:03:22 GMT -6
Strome saw 48 games over three years with a AZ team that has a terrible record with kids so I'll go off the bigger sample size from last year. The chemistry with D-Cat from Jr's was undeniable and it resulted in career numbers for both while carrying a slug like Perrlini but a PUNK HC couldn't stand it,just like he couldn't stand watchin' K&T show up the rest of the team while skating together............both tandems had career years only to be separated from the get go. The kid never looked the same after return from a high ankle sprain either. If 12gls 38pts and a 47 FO% in 56gms is terrible from start to finish,then what do you consider 8gls 23pts and a 33 FO% in 64gms? The heir apparent? Strome is 23 though, and Dach is only 19. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 12:07:41 GMT -6
Most of those points came in one insanely hot stretch when he joined the Blackhawks last season, he was awful in Arizona prior to that, got cold at end of last season and was terrible start to finish this season. If Dach isn't a 2LC certainly Strome isn't, that's my take. If they can get a good/decent piece for Strome I do it but I am not advocating to give him away for nothing, either. Strome saw 48 games over three years with a AZ team that has a terrible record with kids so I'll go off the bigger sample size from last year. The chemistry with D-Cat from Jr's was undeniable and it resulted in career numbers for both while carrying a slug like Perrlini but a PUNK HC couldn't stand it,just like he couldn't stand watchin' K&T show up the rest of the team while skating together............both tandems had career years only to be separated from the get go. The kid never looked the same after return from a high ankle sprain either. If 12gls 38pts and a 47 FO% in 56gms is terrible from start to finish,then what do you consider 8gls 23pts and a 33 FO% in 64gms? The heir apparent? That's not fair to Dach and you know that and are better than this. Besides the age difference, and the fact Strome had many games and a few seasons under his belt while Dach had none... I think Dach showed more in the bubble than Strome did and that can't be overlooked. At times in the bubble, Dach looked somewhat dominant while Strome looked mostly awful (especially defensively). Would I like to see Dach score more goals/take more shots? Absolutely and I believe he will. The talent is clearly there. There's going to be room for improvement for a kid who can't legally buy an alcoholic beverage yet. Can Strome improve? Yes. I just have a lot less confidence he's going to than I do Dach. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Sept 1, 2020 14:08:31 GMT -6
Looking at Strom's 3 years with AZ he may have not been used as he should have.
His minor league numbers were very decent, but when brought up they were miserable.
His 3rd year he was packed off to the Hawks and suddenly his numbers took off.
No doubt being with his old team mate had a lot to do with it.
Now last season I still think his decline in numbers coincided with D-cats decline in numbers.
The injury did not help either but that was not the sole cause for decline.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 14:30:05 GMT -6
If Strome is on roster next season I am not going to lose my mind. As I mentioned previously with D-Cat I think next season is a really telling season for both guys. Either they rebound and have a better one proving 2019-20 was an aberration or they continue to be stagnant/decline and neither guy is what we thought or hoped they would be.
So, I guess I am willing to compromise on the Strome side. If he's on roster, I won't be angry. But, as I have said, if he is part of a trade to fill another need I am certainly not going to be unhappy about it, either.
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Sept 1, 2020 17:33:09 GMT -6
I think that the constant roster churn creates issues in and of itself. From that perspective, I'd like to see Strome, D-cat, Saad all back the next season. Some subset of: Smith, Carpenter, Nylander, Caggiula, Highmore, and certainly Quenville can disappear to make room for Kurashev, Entwhistle, and Hagel. Who knows, they may bring a little more scoring and grit on the bottom 6.
And I think that Dach was steadily improving, where towards the end he had flashes of brilliance. He started winning some of the board battles...to my untrained, simple caveman eye he showed a lot of promise.
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Post by hsbob on Sept 1, 2020 18:27:57 GMT -6
Strome saw 48 games over three years with a AZ team that has a terrible record with kids so I'll go off the bigger sample size from last year. The chemistry with D-Cat from Jr's was undeniable and it resulted in career numbers for both while carrying a slug like Perrlini but a PUNK HC couldn't stand it,just like he couldn't stand watchin' K&T show up the rest of the team while skating together............both tandems had career years only to be separated from the get go. The kid never looked the same after return from a high ankle sprain either. If 12gls 38pts and a 47 FO% in 56gms is terrible from start to finish,then what do you consider 8gls 23pts and a 33 FO% in 64gms? The heir apparent? That's not fair to Dach and you know that and are better than this. Besides the age difference, and the fact Strome had many games and a few seasons under his belt while Dach had none... I think Dach showed more in the bubble than Strome did and that can't be overlooked. At times in the bubble, Dach looked somewhat dominant while Strome looked mostly awful (especially defensively). Would I like to see Dach score more goals/take more shots? Absolutely and I believe he will. The talent is clearly there. There's going to be room for improvement for a kid who can't legally buy an alcoholic beverage yet. Can Strome improve? Yes. I just have a lot less confidence he's going to than I do Dach. I'M BETTER THAN WHAT? Did I misquote any of the numbers? One set of numbers is bad from start to finish and the other is the heir apparent? There have been many young centers come into the league and not struggle like this at the dot and the kid's struggled at the dot against teenagers......he'll end up a wing. He looked good at times but potted one although he musta had a handful of great chances every game and I'm not making up a 30 FO%........I couldn't make that up. Saad was better at the dot. I don't really care if Strome goes to be honest because I care less and less and NO,Strome is no game changer but be ready for Carpenter as a 2LC again next year. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 23:45:30 GMT -6
That's not fair to Dach and you know that and are better than this. Besides the age difference, and the fact Strome had many games and a few seasons under his belt while Dach had none... I think Dach showed more in the bubble than Strome did and that can't be overlooked. At times in the bubble, Dach looked somewhat dominant while Strome looked mostly awful (especially defensively). Would I like to see Dach score more goals/take more shots? Absolutely and I believe he will. The talent is clearly there. There's going to be room for improvement for a kid who can't legally buy an alcoholic beverage yet. Can Strome improve? Yes. I just have a lot less confidence he's going to than I do Dach. I'M BETTER THAN WHAT? Just throwing out Strome's numbers and using them as a comparison to Dach at this stage. If Dach had a decent number of games under his belt or wasn't 19 then OK but to offer up numbers for a guy with over 2 full seasons of hockey on his resume to a guy with not even one full season. And when said player is 4 years older than the other, it's just not a fair comparison right now. |
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Post by nighbor on Sept 2, 2020 1:13:08 GMT -6
Dach is also going to have to learn to shoot the puck. Seems like he hesitates to pull the trigger. This is why the Hawks should have sent him to Jrs, and had him to work on certain things. He would have gotten 100+ points, and probably got better at shooting and faceoffs. It’s probably the best thing for a young centerman!!! Dach is further advanced because of his time with the big club. The club would not have known what to work on without the time to find out what his NHL shortcomings were. Because of his size and natural strength he would have dominated in juniors and not realized or convinced himself that he needed to improve his strength and speed. In the time off he showed his maturity by seeking out Kane and his trainer and doing something about it. He came back bigger, stronger and faster and still is not satisfied. I am convinced that the professional coaches were trying to get him to shoot first. If he does not think he has a good scoring chance he can at least set up his teammate by shooting the puck off the far pad.
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Post by hsbob on Sept 2, 2020 9:05:42 GMT -6
Just throwing out Strome's numbers and using them as a comparison to Dach at this stage. If Dach had a decent number of games under his belt or wasn't 19 then OK but to offer up numbers for a guy with over 2 full seasons of hockey on his resume to a guy with not even one full season. And when said player is 4 years older than the other, it's just not a fair comparison right now. Fair enough merp but if we can't use stats to compare players,we only have opinion. I know the kid's young but if his age is an excuse,maybe he wasn't ready. If any of us were told Dach would end his rookie season with 8 goals and a 33% FO%,would anyone have jumped up and down? I did think he looked faster and stronger when play resumed and that's what we should see from a #3 pick,if young players don't bust their asses to get better,they get run over. He looked better in the bubble but his FO% actually went down to 30% when he went up against better centers and shooting the puck can sometimes be a problem for young player lookin' to pass to more established players......Dach's far from the first kid to do this. Schmaltz did the same thing. What confounded me was watching him skate right into Lehner on a break instead of shooting the very next game after doing the exact same thing against MAF the game before and a 2LC has to win half his draws........if Kampf can do it Dach should be able to also. |
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Post by hsbob on Sept 2, 2020 10:07:46 GMT -6
Just to clarify,I consider Dach a good pick by SB and his staff and I'm not afraid to say so. I also see tons of potential in the big kid.
I'm basically responding to criticism of the other picks who made the league with similar rookie numbers and I think critiquing a player who's considered the heir apparent is fair game. Maybe this is a fair question or maybe not but what do others expect to see from a #2 at the dot?
Some of us wanted to see the kid skate wing with K&T as a rook,this would have OBVIOUSLY resulted in MUCH better offensive numbers and more confidence to go along with it and he coulda took the occasional draw when JT got kicked out.
I'm also concerned with JC and his staff's ability to develop young players after watching the regression of Strome and D-Cat and can anyone say Boqvist improved as the year went on?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2020 11:44:30 GMT -6
Just throwing out Strome's numbers and using them as a comparison to Dach at this stage. If Dach had a decent number of games under his belt or wasn't 19 then OK but to offer up numbers for a guy with over 2 full seasons of hockey on his resume to a guy with not even one full season. And when said player is 4 years older than the other, it's just not a fair comparison right now. Fair enough merp but if we can't use stats to compare players,we only have opinion. I know the kid's young but if his age is an excuse,maybe he wasn't ready. If any of us were told Dach would end his rookie season with 8 goals and a 33% FO%,would anyone have jumped up and down? I did think he looked faster and stronger when play resumed and that's what we should see from a #3 pick,if young players don't bust their asses to get better,they get run over. He looked better in the bubble but his FO% actually went down to 30% when he went up against better centers and shooting the puck can sometimes be a problem for young player lookin' to pass to more established players......Dach's far from the first kid to do this. Schmaltz did the same thing. What confounded me was watching him skate right into Lehner on a break instead of shooting the very next game after doing the exact same thing against MAF the game before and a 2LC has to win half his draws........if Kampf can do it Dach should be able to also. I Personally don't think he was ready, and if all the injuries hadn't happened... Shaw/Smith or Nylander provided anything at all... Dach wouldn't have been up this year. His body looks NHL ready, his mind clearly wasn't |
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Post by nighbor on Sept 2, 2020 23:35:08 GMT -6
Most of those points came in one insanely hot stretch when he joined the Blackhawks last season, he was awful in Arizona prior to that, got cold at end of last season and was terrible start to finish this season. If Dach isn't a 2LC certainly Strome isn't, that's my take. If they can get a good/decent piece for Strome I do it but I am not advocating to give him away for nothing, either. Strome saw 48 games over three years with a AZ team that has a terrible record with kids so I'll go off the bigger sample size from last year. The chemistry with D-Cat from Jr's was undeniable and it resulted in career numbers for both while carrying a slug like Perrlini but a PUNK HC couldn't stand it,just like he couldn't stand watchin' K&T show up the rest of the team while skating together............both tandems had career years only to be separated from the get go. The kid never looked the same after return from a high ankle sprain either. If 12gls 38pts and a 47 FO% in 56gms is terrible from start to finish,then what do you consider 8gls 23pts and a 33 FO% in 64gms? The heir apparent? I took a different path to be more accurate in comparing their abilities. I chose to compare productivity by obtaining their stats from the start of their careers when they were the same age. I took the liberty of adding Nylander to the discussion.
In the first 28 games of their careers they had the same number of points 10. It took Nylander part of four seasons to play his 28th game and scored 5 goals and 5 assists. Strome had 4 goals and 6 assists in parts of two seasons and Dach scored 5 goals and 5 assists this season.
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Post by hsbob on Sept 4, 2020 8:21:16 GMT -6
Strome saw 48 games over three years with a AZ team that has a terrible record with kids so I'll go off the bigger sample size from last year. The chemistry with D-Cat from Jr's was undeniable and it resulted in career numbers for both while carrying a slug like Perrlini but a PUNK HC couldn't stand it,just like he couldn't stand watchin' K&T show up the rest of the team while skating together............both tandems had career years only to be separated from the get go. The kid never looked the same after return from a high ankle sprain either. If 12gls 38pts and a 47 FO% in 56gms is terrible from start to finish,then what do you consider 8gls 23pts and a 33 FO% in 64gms? The heir apparent? I took a different path to be more accurate in comparing their abilities. I chose to compare productivity by obtaining their stats from the start of their careers when they were the same age. I took the liberty of adding Nylander to the discussion.
In the first 28 games of their careers they had the same number of points 10. It took Nylander part of four seasons to play his 28th game and scored 5 goals and 5 assists. Strome had 4 goals and 6 assists in parts of two seasons and Dach scored 5 goals and 5 assists this season.
Nolander had three failed kicks at the can when he arrived and his kick with us resulted in a necessary benching in the team's most important game of the year........Dach's 100X the prospect. I like the kid and if he has a 20gl 66pt 45FO% like Strome did in his 2nd full year.....I'll do back-flips. Since Dach is considered JT's 'heir apparent'.....maybe we should visit his numbers as a 19yro. edit: To those who say Dach's already a better defensive player than Strome.......I agree. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2020 12:18:44 GMT -6
I took a different path to be more accurate in comparing their abilities. I chose to compare productivity by obtaining their stats from the start of their careers when they were the same age. I took the liberty of adding Nylander to the discussion.
In the first 28 games of their careers they had the same number of points 10. It took Nylander part of four seasons to play his 28th game and scored 5 goals and 5 assists. Strome had 4 goals and 6 assists in parts of two seasons and Dach scored 5 goals and 5 assists this season.
Nolander had three failed kicks at the can when he arrived and his kick with us resulted in a necessary benching in the team's most important game of the year........Dach's 100X the prospect. I like the kid and if he has a 20gl 66pt 45FO% like Strome did in his 2nd full year.....I'll do back-flips. Since Dach is considered JT's 'heir apparent'.....maybe we should visit his numbers as a 19yro. edit: To those who say Dach's already a better defensive player than Strome.......I agree. Honestly, I think the only place we don't see eye-to-eye on Dach is his issues with faceoffs. Which isn't really a matter of not agreeing, you're spot on with that... he sucks at them. My hope is 1) he improves, maybe learns some tricks from the captain or 2) for important draws they can put someone else on the ice with him that can take the draw instead or 3) as you said earlier he shifts to wing which then still leaves the 2LC open cause whether strome stays or not unless he shows more than he did this season he isn't suited for that role imho |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 4, 2020 15:29:01 GMT -6
I like the back and forth comments on Dach and I think we can all agree, he has a bright future.
It didn't look good when he took a dirty hit and fell awkwardly in the Traverse tournament and missed training camp, the start of the season, and only a few AHL games. Plus being excluded at the World Juniors must've been hard for him but he took it in stride and he's mentally very mature for a teenager.
Kirby is tough on himself and he wants to be the best, after missing on two passes on a 2 on 1 in back to back games I'm sure that's eating away at him, or did eat away, and like Kane learned, you have to shoot to keep the other team guessing.
1g-5a=6pts in 9 playoff games, 4gm point streak versus the Oilers tying EddieO for Hawks rookie point streak, shooting more could've got him a couple more goals and put him around a point a game.
He'll be 20 in 2021 and after adding 10+ pounds during the stoppage I'm sure he'll add more before next season. After what he learned this season and coming in around 6'5" 210-15lbs next season, his numbers should be a lot better than 8g and 21pts. But his points per game and his line production was better than picks 1 and 2 from his draft, and they didn't start on the 4th line with no PP time.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 4, 2020 22:06:46 GMT -6
My roster would have Laine, Danault, and Nurse, those three should make the Hawks a legit playoff team again.
The Jets lost 3 righties last summer so maybe Boqvist, Maatta, and a prospect or pick.
I like Saad but if he can be traded to get Nurse or Danault the Hawks should do it.
I doubt the Jets will trade Laine in their division but you never know.
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Post by hsbob on Sept 5, 2020 7:52:24 GMT -6
I like the back and forth comments on Dach and I think we can all agree, he has a bright future. It didn't look good when he took a dirty hit and fell awkwardly in the Traverse tournament and missed training camp, the start of the season, and only a few AHL games. Plus being excluded at the World Juniors must've been hard for him but he took it in stride and he's mentally very mature for a teenager. Kirby is tough on himself and he wants to be the best, after missing on two passes on a 2 on 1 in back to back games I'm sure that's eating away at him, or did eat away, and like Kane learned, you have to shoot to keep the other team guessing. 1g-5a=6pts in 9 playoff games, 4gm point streak versus the Oilers tying EddieO for Hawks rookie point streak, shooting more could've got him a couple more goals and put him around a point a game. He'll be 20 in 2021 and after adding 10+ pounds during the stoppage I'm sure he'll add more before next season. After what he learned this season and coming in around 6'5" 210-15lbs next season, his numbers should be a lot better than 8g and 21pts. But his points per game and his line production was better than picks 1 and 2 from his draft, and they didn't start on the 4th line with no PP time. I liked what I read in this article but FO's are left out of every assessment of the young player.... chicago.suntimes.com/blackhawks/2020/9/5/21420235/kirby-dach-blackhawks-nhl-ian-mack-sports-trainer-chicago-patrick-kane-auston-matthews |
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Post by hsbob on Sept 19, 2020 9:44:49 GMT -6
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Post by BigT on Sept 19, 2020 10:23:43 GMT -6
Remember, Toews is 32. Kane is gonna be 32 in November. They all getting older. Scambo wasted the last 4 years of these guys careers. I don’t see the next 3 getting any better unless a rash of his picks all the sudden make massive, and I mean massive impacts!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Sept 19, 2020 10:28:32 GMT -6
Remember, Toews is 32. Kane is gonna be 32 in November. They all getting older. Scambo wasted the last 4 years of these guys careers. I don’t see the next 3 getting any better unless a rash of his picks all the sudden make massive, and I mean massive impacts!!! If Strome goes,we'll see these scenarios...... Toews ridden like an old mule Dach rushed into a 2LC role he is NOT ready for Carpenter at 2LC again EMBRACE LAST PLACE! |
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Post by BigT on Sept 19, 2020 10:52:13 GMT -6
Remember, Toews is 32. Kane is gonna be 32 in November. They all getting older. Scambo wasted the last 4 years of these guys careers. I don’t see the next 3 getting any better unless a rash of his picks all the sudden make massive, and I mean massive impacts!!! If Strome goes,we'll see these scenarios...... Toews ridden like an old mule Dach rushed into a 2LC role he is NOT ready for Carpenter at 2LC again EMBRACE LAST PLACE! I think you’re wrong on last place. I think they’ll be in a worse place. 2nd last and be good enough to just miss the playoffs. Which is in the middle. Picking 10-20 is the worst spot. Inside the top ten you get a chance at a good player. 20-31 usually means you’re a pretty good team and in the playoffs. But that 10-20 spot is the zone you never want to be in...... also known as the Stan zone!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Sept 19, 2020 11:01:15 GMT -6
If Strome goes,we'll see these scenarios...... Toews ridden like an old mule Dach rushed into a 2LC role he is NOT ready for Carpenter at 2LC again EMBRACE LAST PLACE! I think you’re wrong on last place. I think they’ll be in a worse place. 2nd last and be good enough to just miss the playoffs. Which is in the middle. Picking 10-20 is the worst spot. Inside the top ten you get a chance at a good player. 20-31 usually means you’re a pretty good team and in the playoffs. But that 10-20 spot is the zone you never want to be in...... also known as the Stan zone!!! |
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Post by BigT on Sept 21, 2020 16:07:45 GMT -6
Alright Bob, I got something for ya. I heard something today that was kinda mind boggling. But here she is.
The Hawks are set to trade Saad for Danault. That’s not the bad part. The bad part is they’re heavily thinking on letting Strome walk. If they qualify him, they have to pay him, and they’re having a hard time shedding salary. I guess they cant move Strome. It seems that if they qualify him and he takes it, they have to pay him the roughly 1 million, which is ok for this year, but he will be eligible for arbitration the year after. This is why teams sign guys to multi year deals and basically “buy” years of their arbitration eligibility. If Strome was here and he had a decent season, he could get 4-5 million in arbitration, and the Hawks would have to let him walk then and look much worse and n doing so.
But, the Hawks might be able to trade him, but as of now it doesn’t look to good, we shall see soon enough!!!
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Post by Tater on Sept 21, 2020 23:26:23 GMT -6
Alright Bob, I got something for ya. I heard something today that was kinda mind boggling. But here she is. The Hawks are set to trade Saad for Danault. That’s not the bad part. The bad part is they’re heavily thinking on letting Strome walk. If they qualify him, they have to pay him, and they’re having a hard time shedding salary. I guess they cant move Strome. It seems that if they qualify him and he takes it, they have to pay him the roughly 1 million, which is ok for this year, but he will be eligible for arbitration the year after. This is why teams sign guys to multi year deals and basically “buy” years of their arbitration eligibility. If Strome was here and he had a decent season, he could get 4-5 million in arbitration, and the Hawks would have to let him walk then and look much worse and n doing so. But, the Hawks might be able to trade him, but as of now it doesn’t look to good, we shall see soon enough!!! This sounds pretty grim, but thanks for sharing it. Gonna be a bumpy ride until Scambo is gone. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 22, 2020 10:40:58 GMT -6
Alright Bob, I got something for ya. I heard something today that was kinda mind boggling. But here she is. The Hawks are set to trade Saad for Danault. That’s not the bad part. The bad part is they’re heavily thinking on letting Strome walk. If they qualify him, they have to pay him, and they’re having a hard time shedding salary. I guess they cant move Strome. It seems that if they qualify him and he takes it, they have to pay him the roughly 1 million, which is ok for this year, but he will be eligible for arbitration the year after. This is why teams sign guys to multi year deals and basically “buy” years of their arbitration eligibility. If Strome was here and he had a decent season, he could get 4-5 million in arbitration, and the Hawks would have to let him walk then and look much worse and n doing so. But, the Hawks might be able to trade him, but as of now it doesn’t look to good, we shall see soon enough!!! As much as I don't want Strome gone if the Hawks have Danault for 3C, possibly 2C if Dach struggles, he's kind of expendable. I heard a scenario of trading Strome for a 1st round pick and a prospect or a 2nd/3rd pick, I'd do that if they traded Saad to Montreal. |
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Post by vadarx on Sept 22, 2020 14:15:21 GMT -6
Alright Bob, I got something for ya. I heard something today that was kinda mind boggling. But here she is. The Hawks are set to trade Saad for Danault. That’s not the bad part. The bad part is they’re heavily thinking on letting Strome walk. If they qualify him, they have to pay him, and they’re having a hard time shedding salary. I guess they cant move Strome. It seems that if they qualify him and he takes it, they have to pay him the roughly 1 million, which is ok for this year, but he will be eligible for arbitration the year after. This is why teams sign guys to multi year deals and basically “buy” years of their arbitration eligibility. If Strome was here and he had a decent season, he could get 4-5 million in arbitration, and the Hawks would have to let him walk then and look much worse and n doing so. But, the Hawks might be able to trade him, but as of now it doesn’t look to good, we shall see soon enough!!! As much as I don't want Strome gone if the Hawks have Danault for 3C, possibly 2C if Dach struggles, he's kind of expendable. I heard a scenario of trading Strome for a 1st round pick and a prospect or a 2nd/3rd pick, I'd do that if they traded Saad to Montreal. if we get a 1st rounder for Stromer I'll shit in my pants and do cartwheels after. that'd be fantastic. I'd also love to have Danault back, but he is a UFA after next season, so I won't get too excited about it cuz he is likely only back for one season... |
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Post by hawks27 on Sept 22, 2020 14:23:55 GMT -6
As much as I don't want Strome gone if the Hawks have Danault for 3C, possibly 2C if Dach struggles, he's kind of expendable. I heard a scenario of trading Strome for a 1st round pick and a prospect or a 2nd/3rd pick, I'd do that if they traded Saad to Montreal. if we get a 1st rounder for Stromer I'll shit in my pants and do cartwheels after. that'd be fantastic. I'd also love to have Danault back, but he is a UFA after next season, so I won't get too excited about it cuz he is likely only back for one season... Considering the law of gravity, I'd hope you would reconsider doing cartwheels after your........uh...."anal episode."  |
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