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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 2:51:56 GMT -6
I used to start a thread like this on the old boards so lets do it here.
Play GM, what do you do this offseason?
For me, I think the offense should be OK. Kane/Toews still provide the leadership. Assuming DeBrincat finds some middle ground between his first 2 years and last year that's improvement. Assume Dach and Kubalik improve and only minor tinkering needs to be done.
Buyout Maatta and Zack Smith. Put Shaw on LTIR. Let Crawford walk. Depending on the cap that should free up a nice chunk to work with.
Sign a goalie like Greiss or Khudobin for $3 million a year or so, let them split time with Subban who I still believe is talented and will get better.
Defense, ideally i'd love to bring in Pietrangelo but that'll be pricey. If not, target Brendan Dillon and/or Radko Gudas and get the blue line more physical to win some corner battles and move guys from in front of the net.
Beyond that, if they want to tinker with forwards I'd like to add Erik Haula or Wayne Simmonds on the cheap end.
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Post by creature on Aug 21, 2020 8:05:15 GMT -6
I used to start a thread like this on the old boards so lets do it here. Play GM, what do you do this offseason? For me, I think the offense should be OK. Kane/Toews still provide the leadership. Assuming DeBrincat finds some middle ground between his first 2 years and last year that's improvement. Assume Dach and Kubalik improve and only minor tinkering needs to be done. Buyout Maatta and Zack Smith. Put Shaw on LTIR. Let Crawford walk. Depending on the cap that should free up a nice chunk to work with. Sign a goalie like Greiss or Khudobin for $3 million a year or so, let them split time with Subban who I still believe is talented and will get better. Defense, ideally i'd love to bring in Pietrangelo but that'll be pricey. If not, target Brendan Dillon and/or Radko Gudas and get the blue line more physical to win some corner battles and move guys from in front of the net. Beyond that, if they want to tinker with forwards I'd like to add Erik Haula or Wayne Simmonds on the cheap end. They are in cap hell again so no buying just shedding. The Hawks have 2 very good young defensemen ready to step up Gilbert and Carlsson. Gilbert brings the physicality Carlsson brings the smart play. Seabs is gonna be back no gifs ands or buts about it. So Keith,deHaan,Murphy and Boqvist as the top 4 cuz JC has a hard on for Boqvist and will keep him in the top 4. Bring up Gilbert and Carlsson and rotate them with Seabs on the 3rd pairing so he can teach them the ropes. The Devils really really need defensive help so dangle Maata and Koekkoek for a couple picks or prospects and shed the salary that should cover the cost of a goalie. Forwards? Until JC stops giving them juice boxes and hugs for their dismal lackluster play and starts giving them bag skates we'll see the same results. |
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Post by acesandeights on Aug 25, 2020 7:29:57 GMT -6
Kubalik will need to be resigned. What would be a fair figure for him?
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Post by creature on Aug 25, 2020 8:00:17 GMT -6
Kubalik will need to be resigned. What would be a fair figure for him? 2.5 mil for 3 years. Needs to show he ain't another Panik. |
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Aug 25, 2020 18:49:50 GMT -6
I used to start a thread like this on the old boards so lets do it here. Play GM, what do you do this offseason? For me, I think the offense should be OK. Kane/Toews still provide the leadership. Assuming DeBrincat finds some middle ground between his first 2 years and last year that's improvement. Assume Dach and Kubalik improve and only minor tinkering needs to be done. Buyout Maatta and Zack Smith. Put Shaw on LTIR. Let Crawford walk. Depending on the cap that should free up a nice chunk to work with. Sign a goalie like Greiss or Khudobin for $3 million a year or so, let them split time with Subban who I still believe is talented and will get better. Defense, ideally i'd love to bring in Pietrangelo but that'll be pricey. If not, target Brendan Dillon and/or Radko Gudas and get the blue line more physical to win some corner battles and move guys from in front of the net. Beyond that, if they want to tinker with forwards I'd like to add Erik Haula or Wayne Simmonds on the cheap end. They are in cap hell again so no buying just shedding. The Hawks have 2 very good young defensemen ready to step up Gilbert and Carlsson. Gilbert brings the physicality Carlsson brings the smart play. Seabs is gonna be back no gifs ands or buts about it. So Keith,deHaan,Murphy and Boqvist as the top 4 cuz JC has a hard on for Boqvist and will keep him in the top 4. Bring up Gilbert and Carlsson and rotate them with Seabs on the 3rd pairing so he can teach them the ropes. The Devils really really need defensive help so dangle Maata and Koekkoek for a couple picks or prospects and shed the salary that should cover the cost of a goalie. Forwards? Until JC stops giving them juice boxes and hugs for their dismal lackluster play and starts giving them bag skates we'll see the same results. What about Mitchell, I am sure he will be in the lineup next season. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Aug 26, 2020 2:26:07 GMT -6
They are in cap hell again so no buying just shedding. The Hawks have 2 very good young defensemen ready to step up Gilbert and Carlsson. Gilbert brings the physicality Carlsson brings the smart play. Seabs is gonna be back no gifs ands or buts about it. So Keith,deHaan,Murphy and Boqvist as the top 4 cuz JC has a hard on for Boqvist and will keep him in the top 4. Bring up Gilbert and Carlsson and rotate them with Seabs on the 3rd pairing so he can teach them the ropes. The Devils really really need defensive help so dangle Maata and Koekkoek for a couple picks or prospects and shed the salary that should cover the cost of a goalie. Forwards? Until JC stops giving them juice boxes and hugs for their dismal lackluster play and starts giving them bag skates we'll see the same results. What about Mitchell, I am sure he will be in the lineup next season. Plus Bowman seems high on Kalynuk and Regula, Wyatt is 23 and it sounds like he's a great skater and smart defender while Regula brings size and possibly helps the PP, plus he has chemistry with Boqvist. One of de Haan or Maatta has to go, I'd prefer to keep the younger, bigger, and slightly cheaper Maatta, he'd be good paired with Mitchell or Boqvist. But Maatta would be easier to move so I'm sure de Haan will be staying. It's going to be an interesting draft and offseason. I hope a new president is named and that person fires Bowman and Colliton 🤞 doubtful but wishful thinking. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Aug 26, 2020 2:51:22 GMT -6
Kurashev might be on the Hawks next season, possibly Entwistle as well. It might not be out of camp but one or both have a good chance of playing in Chicago next season.
These guys get it and play the right way and they were mentioned alot during the scrimmages about how they're progressing. Kurashev could probably play 3C and Entwistle on the 4th line.
I like Strome and hope he'll sign a cheap bridge deal, and he's playing on a line with Debrincat, but I think he might be traded to let Dach be the 2C with Kurashev playing 3C, or Pius Suter, they'll be cheaper
With Kubalik having a good season and playing a similar 2way style like Saad, does Saad get traded again? Maybe packaged with a D prospect to get a big top4 dman. I'd ask the Oilers about Nurse, he needs a change of scenery.
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Post by BigT on Aug 26, 2020 6:44:30 GMT -6
I used to start a thread like this on the old boards so lets do it here. Play GM, what do you do this offseason? For me, I think the offense should be OK. Kane/Toews still provide the leadership. Assuming DeBrincat finds some middle ground between his first 2 years and last year that's improvement. Assume Dach and Kubalik improve and only minor tinkering needs to be done. Buyout Maatta and Zack Smith. Put Shaw on LTIR. Let Crawford walk. Depending on the cap that should free up a nice chunk to work with. Sign a goalie like Greiss or Khudobin for $3 million a year or so, let them split time with Subban who I still believe is talented and will get better. Defense, ideally i'd love to bring in Pietrangelo but that'll be pricey. If not, target Brendan Dillon and/or Radko Gudas and get the blue line more physical to win some corner battles and move guys from in front of the net. Beyond that, if they want to tinker with forwards I'd like to add Erik Haula or Wayne Simmonds on the cheap end. They are in cap hell again so no buying just shedding. The Hawks have 2 very good young defensemen ready to step up Gilbert and Carlsson. Gilbert brings the physicality Carlsson brings the smart play. Seabs is gonna be back no gifs ands or buts about it. So Keith,deHaan,Murphy and Boqvist as the top 4 cuz JC has a hard on for Boqvist and will keep him in the top 4. Bring up Gilbert and Carlsson and rotate them with Seabs on the 3rd pairing so he can teach them the ropes. The Devils really really need defensive help so dangle Maata and Koekkoek for a couple picks or prospects and shed the salary that should cover the cost of a goalie. Forwards? Until JC stops giving them juice boxes and hugs for their dismal lackluster play and starts giving them bag skates we'll see the same results. I read an article that had quotes from Stan in it. I’ll try and find it. Anyways Stan had said that Seabs has to earn his way into the lineup type thing. So Seabs may end up sitting a lot, or having to move on. I think that’s the orgs stance here. Either play to your salary, or you’ll sit. And Seabs has been called out unfairly in my eyes. But they need that contract gone and that’s on Stan. I’m expecting more of a down fall next year. Gonna be smaller and softer again!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 6:52:56 GMT -6
They are in cap hell again so no buying just shedding. The Hawks have 2 very good young defensemen ready to step up Gilbert and Carlsson. Gilbert brings the physicality Carlsson brings the smart play. Seabs is gonna be back no gifs ands or buts about it. So Keith,deHaan,Murphy and Boqvist as the top 4 cuz JC has a hard on for Boqvist and will keep him in the top 4. Bring up Gilbert and Carlsson and rotate them with Seabs on the 3rd pairing so he can teach them the ropes. The Devils really really need defensive help so dangle Maata and Koekkoek for a couple picks or prospects and shed the salary that should cover the cost of a goalie. Forwards? Until JC stops giving them juice boxes and hugs for their dismal lackluster play and starts giving them bag skates we'll see the same results. I read an article that had quotes from Stan in it. I’ll try and find it. Anyways Stan had said that Seabs has to earn his way into the lineup type thing. So Seabs may end up sitting a lot, or having to move on. I think that’s the orgs stance here. Either play to your salary, or you’ll sit. And Seabs has been called out unfairly in my eyes. But they need that contract gone and that’s on Stan. I’m expecting more of a down fall next year. Gonna be smaller and softer again!!! Great example of how Bowman screwed up signing Seabs to a ridiculous extension and now calls out same player when he ages. So yeah Stan, go ahead and sit Seabs in the pressbox paying him $6,875,000 a year not to play hockey for the remaining 4 years of his contract. He gave him a full NMC so seems to me that Seabs gets to call the shots if he wants to remain a Hawk. That's called cap hell. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 12:15:08 GMT -6
What about Mitchell, I am sure he will be in the lineup next season. Plus Bowman seems high on Kalynuk and Regula, Wyatt is 23 and it sounds like he's a great skater and smart defender while Regula brings size and possibly helps the PP, plus he has chemistry with Boqvist. One of de Haan or Maatta has to go, I'd prefer to keep the younger, bigger, and slightly cheaper Maatta, he'd be good paired with Mitchell or Boqvist. But Maatta would be easier to move so I'm sure de Haan will be staying. It's going to be an interesting draft and offseason. I hope a new president is named and that person fires Bowman and Colliton 🤞 doubtful but wishful thinking. I'd be shocked if Maatta isn't gone. I believe he and Zack Smith are the only 2 eligible for buyouts. Or the 2 that make the most sense at least. |
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Post by hsbob on Aug 26, 2020 15:50:45 GMT -6
They are in cap hell again so no buying just shedding. The Hawks have 2 very good young defensemen ready to step up Gilbert and Carlsson. Gilbert brings the physicality Carlsson brings the smart play. Seabs is gonna be back no gifs ands or buts about it. So Keith,deHaan,Murphy and Boqvist as the top 4 cuz JC has a hard on for Boqvist and will keep him in the top 4. Bring up Gilbert and Carlsson and rotate them with Seabs on the 3rd pairing so he can teach them the ropes. The Devils really really need defensive help so dangle Maata and Koekkoek for a couple picks or prospects and shed the salary that should cover the cost of a goalie. Forwards? Until JC stops giving them juice boxes and hugs for their dismal lackluster play and starts giving them bag skates we'll see the same results. I read an article that had quotes from Stan in it. I’ll try and find it. Anyways Stan had said that Seabs has to earn his way into the lineup type thing. So Seabs may end up sitting a lot, or having to move on. I think that’s the orgs stance here. Either play to your salary, or you’ll sit. And Seabs has been called out unfairly in my eyes. But they need that contract gone and that’s on Stan. I’m expecting more of a down fall next year. Gonna be smaller and softer again!!! Well just look how much better our D looked without Seabs in the lineup.......weren't ya proud of em against Vegas? Seabs deal with all the bonuses isn't even a buyout candidate..... www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator/brent-seabrook#results Seabs holds all the cards and I hope he uses em if our punk HC decides to sit him. If anyone has a pooch that needs screwin',call Stan Bowman......he's grerat at it! |
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Post by hsbob on Aug 26, 2020 15:54:51 GMT -6
Plus Bowman seems high on Kalynuk and Regula, Wyatt is 23 and it sounds like he's a great skater and smart defender while Regula brings size and possibly helps the PP, plus he has chemistry with Boqvist. One of de Haan or Maatta has to go, I'd prefer to keep the younger, bigger, and slightly cheaper Maatta, he'd be good paired with Mitchell or Boqvist. But Maatta would be easier to move so I'm sure de Haan will be staying. It's going to be an interesting draft and offseason. I hope a new president is named and that person fires Bowman and Colliton 🤞 doubtful but wishful thinking. I'd be shocked if Maatta isn't gone. I believe he and Zack Smith are the only 2 eligible for buyouts. Or the 2 that make the most sense at least. I've seen a number of articles that also show Maata as a buyout candidate but I don't buy it,he's easily tradable IMO and might even fetch a return. On the other hand,lottsa luck with Smith,Shaw and de Haan.........our prized acquisitions from last summer!LOFL! |
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Post by hsbob on Aug 26, 2020 16:01:49 GMT -6
What about Mitchell, I am sure he will be in the lineup next season. Plus Bowman seems high on Kalynuk and Regula, Wyatt is 23 and it sounds like he's a great skater and smart defender while Regula brings size and possibly helps the PP, plus he has chemistry with Boqvist. One of de Haan or Maatta has to go, I'd prefer to keep the younger, bigger, and slightly cheaper Maatta, he'd be good paired with Mitchell or Boqvist. But Maatta would be easier to move so I'm sure de Haan will be staying. It's going to be an interesting draft and offseason. I hope a new president is named and that person fires Bowman and Colliton 🤞 doubtful but wishful thinking. Moving one D-man leaves eleven on our current roster,I know a few of em will go back down but Mitchell's pretty much a lock. With SB's extension,we'll see a figurehead at Pres. if anything is done but I believe we have our Pres. |
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Post by hsbob on Aug 26, 2020 16:04:00 GMT -6
Kurashev might be on the Hawks next season, possibly Entwistle as well. It might not be out of camp but one or both have a good chance of playing in Chicago next season. These guys get it and play the right way and they were mentioned alot during the scrimmages about how they're progressing. Kurashev could probably play 3C and Entwistle on the 4th line. I like Strome and hope he'll sign a cheap bridge deal, and he's playing on a line with Debrincat, but I think he might be traded to let Dach be the 2C with Kurashev playing 3C, or Pius Suter, they'll be cheaper With Kubalik having a good season and playing a similar 2way style like Saad, does Saad get traded again? Maybe packaged with a D prospect to get a big top4 dman. I'd ask the Oilers about Nurse, he needs a change of scenery. A 2LC with eight career goals who can't win a 1/3 of his draws oughta be interesting. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Aug 26, 2020 19:53:40 GMT -6
Kurashev might be on the Hawks next season, possibly Entwistle as well. It might not be out of camp but one or both have a good chance of playing in Chicago next season. These guys get it and play the right way and they were mentioned alot during the scrimmages about how they're progressing. Kurashev could probably play 3C and Entwistle on the 4th line. I like Strome and hope he'll sign a cheap bridge deal, and he's playing on a line with Debrincat, but I think he might be traded to let Dach be the 2C with Kurashev playing 3C, or Pius Suter, they'll be cheaper With Kubalik having a good season and playing a similar 2way style like Saad, does Saad get traded again? Maybe packaged with a D prospect to get a big top4 dman. I'd ask the Oilers about Nurse, he needs a change of scenery. A 2LC with eight career goals who can't win a 1/3 of his draws oughta be interesting. Kirby is a smart young man and his points per game was higher than Hughes and Kappos, plus the analytics show a huge discrepancy in him and the other 2 for making his line better and they played more time with solid top6 forwards, not Carpenter, Smith for almost half his games. And yes his faceoffs are a concern but didn't he win 60% in the clinching game vs Edmonton? He'll come back bigger and stronger next season and he has two great centermen to learm from. But like I said, I hope Strome signs a reasonable contract and he plays 2C with Debrincat on his wing. That way Dach can play 3C plus the PP and PK. It's a crap shoot with Bowman at the helm so this will be an interesting "summer". I'm sure we both agree that Koekkoek can go and let Gilbert play that role, but unfortunately he might be traded or kept in Rockford. |
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Post by hsbob on Aug 26, 2020 20:32:28 GMT -6
A 2LC with eight career goals who can't win a 1/3 of his draws oughta be interesting. Kirby is a smart young man and his points per game was higher than Hughes and Kappos, plus the analytics show a huge discrepancy in him and the other 2 for making his line better and they played more time with solid top6 forwards, not Carpenter, Smith for almost half his games. And yes his faceoffs are a concern but didn't he win 60% in the clinching game vs Edmonton? He'll come back bigger and stronger next season and he has two great centermen to learm from. But like I said, I hope Strome signs a reasonable contract and he plays 2C with Debrincat on his wing. That way Dach can play 3C plus the PP and PK. It's a crap shoot with Bowman at the helm so this will be an interesting "summer". I'm sure we both agree that Koekkoek can go and let Gilbert play that role, but unfortunately he might be traded or kept in Rockford. Jrs FO% is hard to find,did Dach ever win more than he lost? JT came in at a year older but he won 53% right off the bat and only got better. I like the kid's size and the majority of his game as well,I agree with those who say he looked stronger and faster in the PO's and he almost stuck up for himself once too. He will only get better over the next few years but that FO% has a LONG way to go to be a center. Guys like AA,Shaw and Bolland were reticuled for ONLY winning 45% of their draws. Who's the 2nd great centerman? The ability to develop young players looks to be totally absent on this staff. I dunno how they clear the logjam and what their plan is with Seabs but here's a LOT of guys lookin for six spots and Gilbert will NOT be one of em......you can be sure of that. |
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Post by creature on Aug 27, 2020 8:55:27 GMT -6
They are in cap hell again so no buying just shedding. The Hawks have 2 very good young defensemen ready to step up Gilbert and Carlsson. Gilbert brings the physicality Carlsson brings the smart play. Seabs is gonna be back no gifs ands or buts about it. So Keith,deHaan,Murphy and Boqvist as the top 4 cuz JC has a hard on for Boqvist and will keep him in the top 4. Bring up Gilbert and Carlsson and rotate them with Seabs on the 3rd pairing so he can teach them the ropes. The Devils really really need defensive help so dangle Maata and Koekkoek for a couple picks or prospects and shed the salary that should cover the cost of a goalie. Forwards? Until JC stops giving them juice boxes and hugs for their dismal lackluster play and starts giving them bag skates we'll see the same results. What about Mitchell, I am sure he will be in the lineup next season. I watch and or track the Icehogs a lot. I like Mitchell but believe Gilbert and Carlsson are most ready. There is a lot of D prospects in the pipeline and not all are going to be Hawks. What worries me the most is Stan doing as he did with the Joker. He screwed up big time on that. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Aug 27, 2020 9:00:34 GMT -6
Kirby is a smart young man and his points per game was higher than Hughes and Kappos, plus the analytics show a huge discrepancy in him and the other 2 for making his line better and they played more time with solid top6 forwards, not Carpenter, Smith for almost half his games. And yes his faceoffs are a concern but didn't he win 60% in the clinching game vs Edmonton? He'll come back bigger and stronger next season and he has two great centermen to learm from. But like I said, I hope Strome signs a reasonable contract and he plays 2C with Debrincat on his wing. That way Dach can play 3C plus the PP and PK. It's a crap shoot with Bowman at the helm so this will be an interesting "summer". I'm sure we both agree that Koekkoek can go and let Gilbert play that role, but unfortunately he might be traded or kept in Rockford. Jrs FO% is hard to find,did Dach ever win more than he lost? JT came in at a year older but he won 53% right off the bat and only got better. I like the kid's size and the majority of his game as well,I agree with those who say he looked stronger and faster in the PO's and he almost stuck up for himself once too. He will only get better over the next few years but that FO% has a LONG way to go to be a center. Guys like AA,Shaw and Bolland were reticuled for ONLY winning 45% of their draws. Who's the 2nd great centerman? The ability to develop young players looks to be totally absent on this staff. I dunno how they clear the logjam and what their plan is with Seabs but here's a LOT of guys lookin for six spots and Gilbert will NOT be one of em......you can be sure of that. Toews was always great at faceoffs and unfortunately Dach isn't, in juniors he was around 46% if I remember correctly. That's why I wanted him on JTs LW to start his career but the Hawks want him at center, probably because he's responsible defensively and they think he's the future 1C. Yannick Perrault is the other great centerman and hopefully Dach is serious about getting better at faceoffs and works hard with him. And that sucks the coaching staff and GM look at analytics too much because Gilbert is exactly what they need on the blueline. |
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Post by creature on Aug 27, 2020 9:01:56 GMT -6
I read an article that had quotes from Stan in it. I’ll try and find it. Anyways Stan had said that Seabs has to earn his way into the lineup type thing. So Seabs may end up sitting a lot, or having to move on. I think that’s the orgs stance here. Either play to your salary, or you’ll sit. And Seabs has been called out unfairly in my eyes. But they need that contract gone and that’s on Stan. I’m expecting more of a down fall next year. Gonna be smaller and softer again!!! Well just look how much better our D looked without Seabs in the lineup.......weren't ya proud of em against Vegas? Seabs deal with all the bonuses isn't even a buyout candidate.....https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator/brent-seabrook#results Seabs holds all the cards and I hope he uses em if our punk HC decides to sit him. If anyone has a pooch that needs screwin',call Stan Bowman......he's grerat at it! Seabs is a great asset if JC could realize he's a 3rd pairing player at this point and whoever they bring up as far as Mitchell,Gilbert or Carlsson can teach these kids valuable lessons. |
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Post by creature on Aug 27, 2020 9:05:12 GMT -6
Kurashev might be on the Hawks next season, possibly Entwistle as well. It might not be out of camp but one or both have a good chance of playing in Chicago next season. These guys get it and play the right way and they were mentioned alot during the scrimmages about how they're progressing. Kurashev could probably play 3C and Entwistle on the 4th line. I like Strome and hope he'll sign a cheap bridge deal, and he's playing on a line with Debrincat, but I think he might be traded to let Dach be the 2C with Kurashev playing 3C, or Pius Suter, they'll be cheaper With Kubalik having a good season and playing a similar 2way style like Saad, does Saad get traded again? Maybe packaged with a D prospect to get a big top4 dman. I'd ask the Oilers about Nurse, he needs a change of scenery. Entwhistle would be a great addition. A net front present player who is a lot bigger than Shaw. |
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Post by hsbob on Aug 27, 2020 9:50:51 GMT -6
Jrs FO% is hard to find,did Dach ever win more than he lost? JT came in at a year older but he won 53% right off the bat and only got better. I like the kid's size and the majority of his game as well,I agree with those who say he looked stronger and faster in the PO's and he almost stuck up for himself once too. He will only get better over the next few years but that FO% has a LONG way to go to be a center. Guys like AA,Shaw and Bolland were reticuled for ONLY winning 45% of their draws. Who's the 2nd great centerman? The ability to develop young players looks to be totally absent on this staff. I dunno how they clear the logjam and what their plan is with Seabs but here's a LOT of guys lookin for six spots and Gilbert will NOT be one of em......you can be sure of that. Toews was always great at faceoffs and unfortunately Dach isn't, in juniors he was around 46% if I remember correctly. That's why I wanted him on JTs LW to start his career but the Hawks want him at center, probably because he's responsible defensively and they think he's the future 1C. Yannick Perrault is the other great centerman and hopefully Dach is serious about getting better at faceoffs and works hard with him. And that sucks the coaching staff and GM look at analytics too much because Gilbert is exactly what they need on the blueline. When it comes to Kirby Dach,I have to say I like what I've seen from such a young player overall. I agree with you as far as hockey IQ but I do feel it's a fair question to ask why he skated right into the opposing GT on break aways in two consecutive games. It's fair to chalk that up to youth when we see good decisions made elsewhere and his defensive play has been very good in general,not just for a teenager. He did look stronger and faster when play resumed and I do like that too. I wouldn't dwell on FO's as much as I do if we weren't talking about the heir apparent but the inability to win half his FO's even at the Jr level has me wondering if we're not talking about a power winger instead of a center let alone an heir apparent. The numbers aren't in Gilbert's favor and neither is a style of play the Org finds unnecessary and unwanted. |
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Post by hsbob on Aug 27, 2020 10:11:02 GMT -6
Well just look how much better our D looked without Seabs in the lineup.......weren't ya proud of em against Vegas? Seabs deal with all the bonuses isn't even a buyout candidate.....https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator/brent-seabrook#results Seabs holds all the cards and I hope he uses em if our punk HC decides to sit him. If anyone has a pooch that needs screwin',call Stan Bowman......he's grerat at it! Seabs is a great asset if JC could realize he's a 3rd pairing player at this point and whoever they bring up as far as Mitchell,Gilbert or Carlsson can teach these kids valuable lessons. Out of Mitchell,Gilbert and Carlsson,I can all but guarantee Mitchell gets that spot. Beaudin and all of his 168lbs of awesomeness is also probably well ahead of the other two in the HC's eyes........the infatuation with the offensive D-men or the 'glorified wingers' as you've called em will continue as long as the current brain-trust is here. |
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Aug 27, 2020 18:26:25 GMT -6
Seabs is a great asset if JC could realize he's a 3rd pairing player at this point and whoever they bring up as far as Mitchell,Gilbert or Carlsson can teach these kids valuable lessons. Out of Mitchell,Gilbert and Carlsson,I can all but guarantee Mitchell gets that spot. Beaudin and all of his 168lbs of awesomeness is also probably well ahead of the other two in the HC's eyes........the infatuation with the offensive D-men or the 'glorified wingers' as you've called em will continue as long as the current brain-trust is here. I can’t see a situation where Mitchell doesn’t get all the opportunities to crack the lineup and become a permanent fixture in the Hawks lineup. Regardless of how he plays, Stan will force JC to play Mitchell as much as possible. |
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Aug 27, 2020 18:28:49 GMT -6
Kubalik will need to be resigned. What would be a fair figure for him? 3 million max per, 3 years. |
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Post by Tater on Aug 28, 2020 0:55:06 GMT -6
Kubalik will need to be resigned. What would be a fair figure for him? 3 million max per, 3 years. I hope it's something like that, but fear Stan will go overboard...again.
Kubs will end up getting more than 3M after the 30 goals IMO.
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Post by creature on Aug 28, 2020 6:34:59 GMT -6
Seabs is a great asset if JC could realize he's a 3rd pairing player at this point and whoever they bring up as far as Mitchell,Gilbert or Carlsson can teach these kids valuable lessons. Out of Mitchell,Gilbert and Carlsson,I can all but guarantee Mitchell gets that spot. Beaudin and all of his 168lbs of awesomeness is also probably well ahead of the other two in the HC's eyes........the infatuation with the offensive D-men or the 'glorified wingers' as you've called em will continue as long as the current brain-trust is here. These are just my thoughts but right now the scales of offense on a team tilt to their favor over defense. 2 to 1 if you look at it yet these 2 jackasses want to tip the scales even more to offense. Now look at all the defensive output we get from all our great 2 way waterbug forwards and combine that with those glorified back-end wingers who have as much defensive skill as my garden rocks and it spells doom. It's hard enough to watch this circus now and if they add Mitchell and Beaudin it's gonna make my eyes bleed trying to find some semblance of defense. |
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Post by creature on Aug 28, 2020 6:36:55 GMT -6
Out of Mitchell,Gilbert and Carlsson,I can all but guarantee Mitchell gets that spot. Beaudin and all of his 168lbs of awesomeness is also probably well ahead of the other two in the HC's eyes........the infatuation with the offensive D-men or the 'glorified wingers' as you've called em will continue as long as the current brain-trust is here. I can’t see a situation where Mitchell doesn’t get all the opportunities to crack the lineup and become a permanent fixture in the Hawks lineup. Regardless of how he plays, Stan will force JC to play Mitchell as much as possible. There is 1 situation. A razor sharp talon up Stans nostril. 😁 |
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Post by acesandeights on Aug 28, 2020 10:12:33 GMT -6
Kirby is a smart young man and his points per game was higher than Hughes and Kappos, plus the analytics show a huge discrepancy in him and the other 2 for making his line better and they played more time with solid top6 forwards, not Carpenter, Smith for almost half his games. And yes his faceoffs are a concern but didn't he win 60% in the clinching game vs Edmonton? He'll come back bigger and stronger next season and he has two great centermen to learm from. But like I said, I hope Strome signs a reasonable contract and he plays 2C with Debrincat on his wing. That way Dach can play 3C plus the PP and PK. It's a crap shoot with Bowman at the helm so this will be an interesting "summer". I'm sure we both agree that Koekkoek can go and let Gilbert play that role, but unfortunately he might be traded or kept in Rockford. JT came in at a year older but he won 53% right off the bat and only got better. I like the kid's size and the majority of his game as well,I agree with those who say he looked stronger and faster in the PO's and he almost stuck up for himself once too. He will only get better over the next few years but that FO% has a LONG way to go to be a center. Guys like AA,Shaw and Bolland were reticuled for ONLY winning 45% of their draws. Who's the 2nd great centerman? The ability to develop young players looks to be totally absent on this staff. I dunno how they clear the logjam and what their plan is with Seabs but here's a LOT of guys lookin for six spots and Gilbert will NOT be one of em......you can be sure of that. bob, try this; third name down, eighth column over to the right. saskatoonblades.com/stats/team_players/266/213 |
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Post by tincup on Aug 28, 2020 11:30:58 GMT -6
I can’t see a situation where Mitchell doesn’t get all the opportunities to crack the lineup and become a permanent fixture in the Hawks lineup. Regardless of how he plays, Stan will force JC to play Mitchell as much as possible. There is 1 situation. A razor sharp talon up Stans nostril. 😁 Do you mean a razor sharp Tallon, like as team president? |
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Post by tincup on Aug 28, 2020 11:40:11 GMT -6
Out of Mitchell,Gilbert and Carlsson,I can all but guarantee Mitchell gets that spot. Beaudin and all of his 168lbs of awesomeness is also probably well ahead of the other two in the HC's eyes........the infatuation with the offensive D-men or the 'glorified wingers' as you've called em will continue as long as the current brain-trust is here. I can’t see a situation where Mitchell doesn’t get all the opportunities to crack the lineup and become a permanent fixture in the Hawks lineup. Regardless of how he plays, Stan will force JC to play Mitchell as much as possible. It’s fine to have quick puck movers on the back end on the premise that possession and movement keeps it out of your zone but reality is that you really need some defensemen that also know what to do below the hash marks. I’m wondering where we’ll stand when this team transitions to it’s new look. |
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