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Post by acesandeights on Jun 16, 2020 9:29:14 GMT -6
What are the chances the Hawks would consider Askarov in the draft? I don't mean for next year, obviously, but for a little ways down the road as a future high level starter. It would certainly be out of character for the Hawks to take a G in the 1st but from I've read, Askarov seems to be the real thing. I've seen him called the best G prospect in years and a possible franchise type G.
Since the Hawks have a big need in net with CC being 35 and no high level future replacement, it made me wonder how the Hawks would view Askarov. They would have to scout him closely since he's the best G prospect in the draft by far as part of their due diligence, and they have a big need in net, but would still pass him up in favor of a position player.
About the only scenario where I could see the Hawks taking him might be if the Hawks end up drafting in the 10-12 range, or thereabouts, and the other top players they had their eyes on are gone.
I did read one report that thought the Devils could have him on their radar.
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Post by BigT on Jun 16, 2020 10:44:23 GMT -6
What are the chances the Hawks would consider Askarov in the draft? I don't mean for next year, obviously, but for a little ways down the road as a future high level starter. It would certainly be out of character for the Hawks to take a G in the 1st but from I've read, Askarov seems to be the real thing. I've seen him called the best G prospect in years and a possible franchise type G. Since the Hawks have a big need in net with CC being 35 and no high level future replacement, it made me wonder how the Hawks would view Askarov. They would have to scout him closely since he's the best G prospect in the draft by far as part of their due diligence, and they have a big need in net, but would still pass him up in favor of a position player. About the only scenario where I could see the Hawks taking him might be if the Hawks end up drafting in the 10-12 range, or thereabouts, and the other top players they had their eyes on are gone. I did read one report that thought the Devils could have him on their radar. It’s not out of the question, at all. I’d like to see if a couple of the guys like Perfetti falls. If he falls near where we’re picking, we gotta get that kid. Askarov would not be a terrible choice, he’s been touted for a long time as the next best thing. I guess like you said at the end, gotta see who or what is available!!! |
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Post by BigT on Jun 16, 2020 18:47:21 GMT -6
Remember, whomever Stan picks, he’s gonna want a guy he can fast track to the NHL. I think Askarov is a guy he can do that with. Unless Askarov has one of those KHL contracts. He’d be part of the Hawks next season with a vet goalie there as the starter, maybe even CC could be back to help groom the kid in? If he wants to sign for 2 years in the KHL, like a lot of the kids there do. I doubt he’s on Stan’s radar, he may not be here when he’s ready!!!
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Post by vadarx on Jun 16, 2020 21:46:34 GMT -6
Remember, whomever Stan picks, he’s gonna want a guy he can fast track to the NHL. I think Askarov is a guy he can do that with. Unless Askarov has one of those KHL contracts. He’d be part of the Hawks next season with a vet goalie there as the starter, maybe even CC could be back to help groom the kid in? If he wants to sign for 2 years in the KHL, like a lot of the kids there do. I doubt he’s on Stan’s radar, he may not be here when he’s ready!!! I disagree. I think, with the evidence before us, it is fairly safe to say Stan is gonna have his time to rebuild and his job is not in as much jeopardy as we may want it to be. so, I can very much see him adding Askarov with the thought process being he is ready in 3-4 years when they have a massive amount of cap space opening up and guys like Dcat, Dach, and Boqvist have a few years under their belts. |
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Post by BigT on Jun 17, 2020 6:33:38 GMT -6
Remember, whomever Stan picks, he’s gonna want a guy he can fast track to the NHL. I think Askarov is a guy he can do that with. Unless Askarov has one of those KHL contracts. He’d be part of the Hawks next season with a vet goalie there as the starter, maybe even CC could be back to help groom the kid in? If he wants to sign for 2 years in the KHL, like a lot of the kids there do. I doubt he’s on Stan’s radar, he may not be here when he’s ready!!! I disagree. I think, with the evidence before us, it is fairly safe to say Stan is gonna have his time to rebuild and his job is not in as much jeopardy as we may want it to be. so, I can very much see him adding Askarov with the thought process being he is ready in 3-4 years when they have a massive amount of cap space opening up and guys like Dcat, Dach, and Boqvist have a few years under their belts. I’m still not sold on Stan staying. I’m thinking that McD loved Stan, he always said so, and how he was the hardest working GM in the biz etc. He mentioned that a lot. I’m starting to think that’s why he’s gone, plus Rocky wanted his boy in there. Stan said nothing at all for the first 5-6 weeks about McD. Probably because he knew he was on a hotter seat now. Then once Danny boy got sworn in, he was cleaning his stinkables with his tongue. Stan’s comments on Danny are weird and “please don’t fire me”. So I think Stan is on borrowed time. Especially when we just seen Botterill fired after he received a vote of confidence a month or so ago. I think Danny doesn’t care and will fire Stan. I think this is Rocky’s way to get rid of them. Even if the ghost of Scotty tried to level with Rocky, I think Danny will say nay, and axe him. This is probably Rockys way of passing the torch. Instead of giving the team to his kid the way he got it. We’ll see though, very soon!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Jun 17, 2020 7:19:40 GMT -6
This talk of Stan stayin' is bummin' me out man!LOL! The situation as it is now does allow a lotta blaming if things continue in the wrong direction but SB survived McD and Q for a reason...….JC better sit with his back to the wall IMO.
The Sabres went through a 1st year with a new HC and stayed competitive most of the way,they're also in good shape cap-wise next year with 10 players under contract for 48M which includes Eichel and Skinner 23&28yrso respectively. Botterill moved Scandella and Bogosian later in the season,Buffalo's D-men average 24yrso now. Okposo is the only bad contract on the team and he pre-dates Botterill,it sounds like a new direction was needed to keep their captain on board but here it's business as usual.
As far as taking any GT in the 1st round,let's face it,even the best young ones take 4 years or more,there're a few exceptions but 22-23 is still young for a GT......even a good one. I'd like to see another center targeted to be honest,if they move Strome as I suspect,Dach is the ONLY good,young center anywhere in the system and we don't really know how good yet.
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Post by BigT on Jun 17, 2020 8:19:01 GMT -6
This talk of Stan stayin' is bummin' me out man!LOL! The situation as it is now does allow a lotta blaming if things continue in the wrong direction but SB survived McD and Q for a reason...….JC better sit with his back to the wall IMO. The Sabres went through a 1st year with a new HC and stayed competitive most of the way,they're also in good shape cap-wise next year with 10 players under contract for 48M which includes Eichel and Skinner 23&28yrso respectively. Botterill moved Scandella and Bogosian later in the season,Buffalo's D-men average 24yrso now. Okposo is the only bad contract on the team and he pre-dates Botterill,it sounds like a new direction was needed to keep their captain on board but here it's business as usual. As far as taking any GT in the 1st round,let's face it,even the best young ones take 4 years or more,there're a few exceptions but 22-23 is still young for a GT......even a good one. I'd like to see another center targeted to be honest,if they move Strome as I suspect,Dach is the ONLY good,young center anywhere in the system and we don't really know how good yet. Do you remember when the Bruins dumped half their roster in 2014 and 15? Those two drafts they targeted as great drafts and landed their new core out of it. Pastrnak, Mcavoy, Debrusk, Carlo, Lauzon, Kase etc etc. They knew their team was dead in the water. They traded everything not nailed down. Seidenberg, Lucic, Thomas, and a litany or other guys. They had 3 consecutive picks in the 1st round in 2015. Potentially the deepest draft of all time they say, or in the cap era at a minimum. The Hawks should do the exact same thing this year. It hurts to see certain guys go, but it’s just time. The Bruins also got another set of eyes on their team and made it work pretty quick. Stan is in win now mode or denial. That’s why he has to go. This bargain bin hunting cannot go on forever. It only worked before because the team was stacked. The core group has been fed a bunch of AHL fill and nhl bargains that hasn’t and won’t work. I don’t wanna year about the cap issues. Many say the cap gets everyone, but Bob, you just pointed out how good of shape the Sabres are in cap wise with a lot to work with. We have to stop blaming the winning years for cap problems 5 years after the fact. Stan has overpaid almost everyone. It has crippled to team. This is why we need someone new on board here to do what Sweeney did this n Boston. Even Gordon did a great job in NYR. I truly think there’s a lot to work with here. I look at Boston and they only kept Chara, Bergeron and Marchand. Maybe another I’m not thinking of. Rask was the heir to Thomas’s throne. So he wasn’t really part of the core. I think Dcat could become or more behaved Marchand. We just need a new leader to help put her all together!!! |
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Post by acesandeights on Jun 17, 2020 10:00:52 GMT -6
Big T, you would be a good one to answer this question, although anyone feel free to answer it also.
Besides Lafreniere, who do you see as the likely players the Hawks would have ranked ahead of Askarov? For the most part, mocks I've looked at seem to generally have Askarov going around 8-11; maybe one or two a little earlier and maybe one or two a pick or two later. From what I can remember, I think I've seen pretty much the same 3-4 guys, one being Byfield, in the 2-5 slots but after that things weren't as settled or as predictable.
I know it's probably hard to think like the Hawks; remember last draft probably all Hawk fans were surprised when they took Dach at 3.
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Post by hsbob on Jun 17, 2020 10:11:00 GMT -6
Big T, you would be a good one to answer this question, although anyone feel free to answer it also. Besides Lafreniere, who do you see as the likely players the Hawks would have ranked ahead of Askarov? For the most part, mocks I've looked at seem to generally have Askarov going around 8-11; maybe one or two a little earlier and maybe one or two a pick or two later. From what I can remember, I think I've seen pretty much the same 3-4 guys, one being Byfield, in the 2-5 slots but after that things weren't as settled or as predictable. I know it's probably hard to think like the Hawks; remember last draft probably all Hawk fans were surprised when they took Dach at 3. I'm not as familiar with this year's draft as I was the last few but I do know it's deep. I believe the team moves Strome,which I consider a mistake so I target the best available center again since the Org is shallow at the position. |
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Post by hsbob on Jun 17, 2020 10:23:42 GMT -6
This talk of Stan stayin' is bummin' me out man!LOL! The situation as it is now does allow a lotta blaming if things continue in the wrong direction but SB survived McD and Q for a reason...….JC better sit with his back to the wall IMO. The Sabres went through a 1st year with a new HC and stayed competitive most of the way,they're also in good shape cap-wise next year with 10 players under contract for 48M which includes Eichel and Skinner 23&28yrso respectively. Botterill moved Scandella and Bogosian later in the season,Buffalo's D-men average 24yrso now. Okposo is the only bad contract on the team and he pre-dates Botterill,it sounds like a new direction was needed to keep their captain on board but here it's business as usual. As far as taking any GT in the 1st round,let's face it,even the best young ones take 4 years or more,there're a few exceptions but 22-23 is still young for a GT......even a good one. I'd like to see another center targeted to be honest,if they move Strome as I suspect,Dach is the ONLY good,young center anywhere in the system and we don't really know how good yet. Do you remember when the Bruins dumped half their roster in 2014 and 15? Those two drafts they targeted as great drafts and landed their new core out of it. Pastrnak, Mcavoy, Debrusk, Carlo, Lauzon, Kase etc etc. They knew their team was dead in the water. They traded everything not nailed down. Seidenberg, Lucic, Thomas, and a litany or other guys. They had 3 consecutive picks in the 1st round in 2015. Potentially the deepest draft of all time they say, or in the cap era at a minimum. The Hawks should do the exact same thing this year. It hurts to see certain guys go, but it’s just time. The Bruins also got another set of eyes on their team and made it work pretty quick. Stan is in win now mode or denial. That’s why he has to go. This bargain bin hunting cannot go on forever. It only worked before because the team was stacked. The core group has been fed a bunch of AHL fill and nhl bargains that hasn’t and won’t work. I don’t wanna year about the cap issues. Many say the cap gets everyone, but Bob, you just pointed out how good of shape the Sabres are in cap wise with a lot to work with. We have to stop blaming the winning years for cap problems 5 years after the fact. Stan has overpaid almost everyone. It has crippled to team. This is why we need someone new on board here to do what Sweeney did this n Boston. Even Gordon did a great job in NYR. I truly think there’s a lot to work with here. I look at Boston and they only kept Chara, Bergeron and Marchand. Maybe another I’m not thinking of. Rask was the heir to Thomas’s throne. So he wasn’t really part of the core. I think Dcat could become or more behaved Marchand. We just need a new leader to help put her all together!!! Bruins held onto Krejci too,they know how hard it is to find good centers. A few years back when CC got concussed the 1st time,we saw a team in DIRE need of a NHL back-up but no soap......Q had to make do with three AHL guys. The two years since saw better GT prospects in Delia and Lankinen but it also saw the team spend 8M on Ward and Lehner instead of developing a young guy like the Pens have done twice now. Cap problems? I know everyone and their brother will point at Seabs but I'll point at the 7.4M paid Shaw and Smith(both on IR) and the 8.5M paid Matta and de Haan(both very mediocre with kids ready) but what's 15.9M between friends? New leader? We got 'Prince Daniel' and our GM and HC say they're learning so much from him and his hockey.....er…. liquor experience. |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 17, 2020 15:03:44 GMT -6
I hear what you are saying, T, but every move made lately just screams Stan getting at least another draft and another season before he is let go.
maybe I am just pessimistic here, but I just am not feeling like he is going anywhere anytime soon.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 18, 2020 9:53:41 GMT -6
What are the chances the Hawks would consider Askarov in the draft? I don't mean for next year, obviously, but for a little ways down the road as a future high level starter. It would certainly be out of character for the Hawks to take a G in the 1st but from I've read, Askarov seems to be the real thing. I've seen him called the best G prospect in years and a possible franchise type G. Since the Hawks have a big need in net with CC being 35 and no high level future replacement, it made me wonder how the Hawks would view Askarov. They would have to scout him closely since he's the best G prospect in the draft by far as part of their due diligence, and they have a big need in net, but would still pass him up in favor of a position player. About the only scenario where I could see the Hawks taking him might be if the Hawks end up drafting in the 10-12 range, or thereabouts, and the other top players they had their eyes on are gone. I did read one report that thought the Devils could have him on their radar. The Hawks let Gravel walk and told him they are going with guys in their mid 20's, so I doubt they'll draft a goalie high in the first round. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 18, 2020 10:03:10 GMT -6
If i had 3 first rounders like the sens i'd be damn sure i'd take askarov if i could.
But having just 1 pick like most teams i don't think i would.
If we got him i wouldn't complain too loud though.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 18, 2020 11:41:59 GMT -6
If i had 3 first rounders like the sens i'd be damn sure i'd take askarov if i could. But having just 1 pick like most teams i don't think i would. If we got him i wouldn't complain too loud though. In that scenario I'd definitely take Askarov and even with one 1st I wouldn't be upset if they got a goalie who could be a franchise player, but with what they told Gravel, it seems unlikely. |
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Post by acesandeights on Jun 18, 2020 13:29:49 GMT -6
GT, as you and OTH allude to, I would think teams with more than one first round pick and were not set in goal would look strongly at Askarov. I certainly wouldn't mind having him since he seems to be the real deal and there's nothing in the system that makes you sit up and take notice. Either Delia or KL need to come through. I don't see Stan getting a goalie that's close to Askarov's level. I think to trade for someone similar to his level, assuming he develops, and assuming there was one even available, would cost more than the Hawks could afford to give up. This probably doesn't speak highly of the Hawks system but they could use someone at any position. Hopefully they don't draft the next Maxmiliam Altelius.  With Gravel gone, there's now a huge age gap in G prospects in the system. We have Lankinen and Delia who are both 25, (I assume Subban will be gone) and then a 6 year gap in age to the next youngest G in Basse, who's 19. In a worst case scenario, suppose KL and CD both show they either just aren't NHL quality or don't show much promise. There's nothing in the system that's close to stepping in as an NHL G prospect. Ideally they need one or two 21-23yr. olds in the system. I expect Stan to draft a G in the upcoming draft since he does have a 2nd and two 3rd rd. picks, although none of the other G's are close to Askarov. I did see a mock with the Wild taking Askarov at 11 and the Hawks taking the second G with their 3rd. rd pick, at 71. It also wouldn't be a surprise to see the Hawks sign an undrafted college G that's already 21-22; if there's one that shows promise. |
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Post by acesandeights on Jun 18, 2020 15:53:49 GMT -6
^^
I was looking beyond next year. True, Stan probably signs CC to be the starter next season, and maybe for two seasons but CC will be 37 in two years and isn't the G of the future. As of right now, we don't have a future starter to replace CC, unless Lankinen or Delia comes through. We should find out more about one or both next season, assuming Subban is gone. But neither have the upside of Askarov, although depending how the draft goes, I really don't expect the Hawks to take YA; I would expect a F. That's just my 2 cents.
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Post by nighbor on Jun 18, 2020 23:46:22 GMT -6
^^ I was looking beyond next year. True, Stan probably signs CC to be the starter next season, and maybe for two seasons but CC will be 37 in two years and isn't the G of the future. As of right now, we don't have a future starter to replace CC, unless Lankinen or Delia comes through. We should find out more about one or both next season, assuming Subban is gone. But neither have the upside of Askarov, although depending how the draft goes, I really don't expect the Hawks to take YA; I would expect a F. That's just my 2 cents. Why waste a first round pick on a goalie when we already have too many in the system. We have 5 goalies 25 or26 years old to go along with younger GT prospects such as BASSE. It is time to find out what they can do. Matt Tompkins and Malcolm Subban for Indy, Colin Delia and Kevin Lankinen for Rockford. If Crawford plays next year it will be in Chicago as he loves the city and his teammates. Stan takes care of his stars. Russian Ivan Nalimov 6'4" 213 lbs. came over on a AHL PTO and he does not intend playing in the AHL. Chances are good that he will be Crawford's successor.
Russian draft picks have a habit of staying home. Unfortunately we know this all too well.
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Post by acesandeights on Jun 19, 2020 7:36:35 GMT -6
A first round pick on a goalie some have said is a possible franchise type goalie and the best G prospect in years isn't a waste. There was a G picked 13th last year. How often do teams get a chance at G's like that? They're a bit like franchise QB's in the NFL. I don't expect Stan to pick him if there are higher rated players on the Hawks board still around, but I would not pass him up because we already have guys like Matt Tomkins, Basse, Nalimov, Delia and Lankinen in the system; not all are considered "prospects". I also wouldn't pass him up because he's Russian; if a Russian is good enough, someone will take him. You have to keep adding G prospects to your system because not all will develop or won't be signed. Plus, you have to increase your talent level if you want to get better and in net is no different. You want good players ready to step in. Just my opinion but I see the Hawks as weak in goal for the future. KL and Delia are the backup hopes and right now we don't know about KL and little about Delia at the NHL level. Askarov wouldn't be coming over right away; he very likely would develop a couple more years which could be about when CC retires. YA would be better than a middle of the pack goalie with not much upside. By the time the Hawks would become a legitimate contender again, how old would our current G's be? Stan should consider YA though I'm really not expecting YA to the Hawks; Stan's MO seems to be later rounders and/or FA's. |
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Post by BigT on Jun 19, 2020 15:48:49 GMT -6
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 20, 2020 15:08:04 GMT -6
If Askarov is available when the Hawks pick and he's the best player available, they have to take him. Whatever position a team needs doesn't matter in the first, especially the top10.
The Hawks have some decent goalies in their mid 20s but they're still unproven, so to get a possible franchise goalie who just turned 18 would be big for that position.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 20, 2020 17:30:11 GMT -6
If Askarov is available when the Hawks pick and he's the best player available, they have to take him. Whatever position a team needs doesn't matter in the first, especially the top10. The Hawks have some decent goalies in their mid 20s but they're still unproven, so to get a possible franchise goalie who just turned 18 would be big for that position. i agree with taking the best player available regardless but if in our situation the best player available is a smallish defenseman with good hockey sense and an offensive upside then maybe they ought to rethink. : ) actually the idea of picking a goalie first is growing on me. i think i'll be disappointed if we don't. |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 20, 2020 17:37:58 GMT -6
If Askarov is available when the Hawks pick and he's the best player available, they have to take him. Whatever position a team needs doesn't matter in the first, especially the top10. The Hawks have some decent goalies in their mid 20s but they're still unproven, so to get a possible franchise goalie who just turned 18 would be big for that position. i agree with taking the best player available regardless but if in our situation the best player available is a smallish defenseman with good hockey sense and an offensive upside then maybe they ought to rethink. : ) actually the idea of picking a goalie first is growing on me. i think i'll be disappointed if we don't. IF we pick around 9, there is a pretty good chance your scenario will be exactly what happens, with us picking between Askarov and Sanderson..... |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 20, 2020 17:57:57 GMT -6
i agree with taking the best player available regardless but if in our situation the best player available is a smallish defenseman with good hockey sense and an offensive upside then maybe they ought to rethink. : ) actually the idea of picking a goalie first is growing on me. i think i'll be disappointed if we don't. IF we pick around 9, there is a pretty good chance your scenario will be exactly what happens, with us picking between Askarov and Sanderson..... oh no! sanderson's dad (former nhler geoff sanderson) is cousins with sheldon brookbank so he's already got an in. sanderson's over 6" 6 ' and already a 185 pounder at 17 years old so that should be enough size to scare the hawks away : ) |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 20, 2020 23:12:44 GMT -6
IF we pick around 9, there is a pretty good chance your scenario will be exactly what happens, with us picking between Askarov and Sanderson..... oh no! sanderson's dad (former nhler geoff sanderson) is cousins with sheldon brookbank so he's already got an in. sanderson's over 6" and already a 185 pounder at 17 years old so that should be enough size to scare the hawks away : ) ha! tbh, if we pick in the latter half of the top ten and he is there, I pretty much expect he is who we take..... |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 20, 2020 23:44:44 GMT -6
oh no! sanderson's dad (former nhler geoff sanderson) is cousins with sheldon brookbank so he's already got an in. sanderson's over 6" and already a 185 pounder at 17 years old so that should be enough size to scare the hawks away : ) ha! tbh, if we pick in the latter half of the top ten and he is there, I pretty much expect he is who we take..... Well...i'm not a keen "draftsman", meaning i don't analyze upcoming drafts like some do. But (imo) i'd have to think we have enough D prospects at this point in time and would opt for another position. But WTF do i know? : ) |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 21, 2020 1:50:11 GMT -6
ha! tbh, if we pick in the latter half of the top ten and he is there, I pretty much expect he is who we take..... Well...i'm not a keen "draftsman", meaning i don't analyze upcoming drafts like some do. But (imo) i'd have to think we have enough D prospects at this point in time and would opt for another position. But WTF do i know? : ) I would agree with that assessment, but he may be the best available when we pick so... |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 21, 2020 2:04:55 GMT -6
Well...i'm not a keen "draftsman", meaning i don't analyze upcoming drafts like some do. But (imo) i'd have to think we have enough D prospects at this point in time and would opt for another position. But WTF do i know? : ) I would agree with that assessment, but he may be the best available when we pick so... I'm an extremely strong believer in taking the best player available when it's your turn regardless of position. But myself...i think we got enough d-men in the pipeline. |
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Post by hsbob on Jun 21, 2020 8:22:16 GMT -6
I would agree with that assessment, but he may be the best available when we pick so... I'm an extremely strong believer in taking the best player available when it's your turn regardless of position. But myself...i think we got enough d-men in the pipeline. The logjam at D could turn out to be a real problem and this genius has us adding a big $$$ FA...…. dawindycity.com/2020/06/21/chicago-blackhawks-three-defenseman-team-must-consider-free-agency/Do these guys actually follow the team? The current roster shows eight not on IR,Seabs and deHaan will have had PLENTY of time when next season starts...….that gets us back to TEN. We won't see Koek or Seeler but I believe Mitchell will get the shot he was promised to sign......that gets us back to NINE. Can they get Seabs to waive and eat half? A buyout makes no sense and saves next to nothing the next four years. Move Matta and maybe get a little return? He's not a standout but he is a reliable starter. Move de Haan and sweeten a little? Another reliable starter when healthy. Move Murph? A very reliable starter with size. Can the team afford to move Keith? Cap space aside.....who skates his minutes and assignments? Simple math says these five veterans on next year's roster leaves ONE spot for Boqvist,Beaudin,Mitchell and Carlsson and another for any veteran moved out. I didn't include Gilbert,I believe he'd need a trade to get another shot. Who they move and how they move em will be more team defining decisions for a FO that's still not sure if they're a contender or not. |
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Post by acesandeights on Jun 21, 2020 8:29:29 GMT -6
I would agree with that assessment, but he may be the best available when we pick so... I'm an extremely strong believer in taking the best player available when it's your turn regardless of position. But myself... i think we got enough d-men in the pipeline.That was why the Hawks felt they could afford to trade Joki to get Nylander, per someone with the Hawks. They had some D prospects so they thought they could afford to trade one to try and boost scoring. Nylander sure showed them. I'm same way on taking the best player. Supposing it happens the Hawks have 2-3 guys rated pretty much equal in talent and ability and projection, I would take the G in that scenario since to my thinking, in goal is the weakest area of the team, (no one proven beyond CC), and you're not passing up a better player. I know fans don't get excited by goalies and like to see flashy scoring F's but G's are important. Just like football fans don't get excited when their team drafts an Offensive Lineman but they're the second most key part of an offense. I have seen a couple of mocks with Sanderson going to the Hawks, at 9. One writeup I read on a mock had the Wild at 11 and taking Askarov, reasoning that Dubnyk is 34 and they need to fill his spot for the future and YA is a such a great prospect. Although the same reasoning can apply to the Hawks; Corey is 35 and they need to fill his spot for the future. I'm sure I said this last year before the draft: it all depends on how the Hawks have the prospects rated and what they feel they need to get. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 21, 2020 10:11:47 GMT -6
IF we pick around 9, there is a pretty good chance your scenario will be exactly what happens, with us picking between Askarov and Sanderson..... oh no! sanderson's dad (former nhler geoff sanderson) is cousins with sheldon brookbank so he's already got an in. sanderson's over 6" and already a 185 pounder at 17 years old so that should be enough size to scare the hawks away : ) Well Kelley and Bowman shocked us last year when they didn't take the small local kid and took a 6'4" 198lb Canadian in Dach, with the last 3mnths to add to his frame I'm sure he's in the 200s now, maybe even 6'5". So I wouldn't be surprised if they took Geoffs son, I read good things about him and like you said, over 6' and 185 at 17 are good numbers and if he can skate like his dad he'd be a solid dman. Even if the Hawks drafted Byram last year, if the best player available when they use their first pick this year is a dman, you take him. |
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