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Post by hsbob on Feb 20, 2020 22:53:54 GMT -6
Hopefully with Bowman not using his cap space it means he was told not too and he had to wait and see how his team did, well they're 8pts out of a playoff spot right before the trade deadline. Lets hope this is the end of the Bowman era in Chicago, seems like the perfect time to fire him and let Colliton go 🤞 He may very well have handcuffs on. They probably gave him the year to put forth his team, and they won’t allow a total direction change, as that would be an organizational shift and not a Bowman shift. I think that’s most likely the case, and he struck out big time, it’s like the rest of the league are the Houston Astros and he can’t figure out how they’re hitting home runs!!! Inactivity before the TDL might indeed mean SB's days are numbered but becoming a seller would require the FO to admit the team wasn't a PO contender and they've been mis-leading their fanbase.....won't happen. The team was supposed to be a "PO team" back when they fired a HoF legend...…..the team has gone two over in the 127 games since! Look for more 'no man's land' next year. Time to clean house on this shit show! |
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Post by BlueFruit on Feb 21, 2020 2:49:08 GMT -6
I wouldn´t mind seeing Gallant behind the hawks bench next year. I like what he did for both Florida and Vegas.
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Post by T-man2010 on Feb 21, 2020 8:22:23 GMT -6
I wouldn´t mind seeing Gallant behind the hawks bench next year. I like what he did for both Florida and Vegas. And he wore out his welcome in 2 years in Vegas. I wonder why? |
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Post by shooter61 on Feb 21, 2020 8:33:32 GMT -6
YES, Turk would, be a great man to have behind the bench, but not with Stan still here,until the FO realizes how bad some of his trades and signing were, then we are stuck with him
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Post by hsbob on Feb 21, 2020 8:51:18 GMT -6
I wouldn´t mind seeing Gallant behind the hawks bench next year. I like what he did for both Florida and Vegas. Gallant's not a 'yes man' and Crawford might not be one either or he'd probably have the job by now! |
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Post by vadarx on Feb 21, 2020 9:58:40 GMT -6
I wouldn´t mind seeing Gallant behind the hawks bench next year. I like what he did for both Florida and Vegas. And he wore out his welcome in 2 years in Vegas. I wonder why? he works his players hard. good in the short term, wears out his welcome quickly. not sure that that isn't what this team needs now, though, tbh.... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2020 11:58:00 GMT -6
And he wore out his welcome in 2 years in Vegas. I wonder why? he works his players hard. good in the short term, wears out his welcome quickly. not sure that that isn't what this team needs now, though, tbh.... Sounds a lot like Mike Kennan |
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Post by LordKOTL on Feb 21, 2020 14:20:53 GMT -6
And he wore out his welcome in 2 years in Vegas. I wonder why? he works his players hard. good in the short term, wears out his welcome quickly. not sure that that isn't what this team needs now, though, tbh.... Not sure if double-negative or not, but I think this is exactly what the team needs |
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Post by vadarx on Feb 21, 2020 17:47:10 GMT -6
he works his players hard. good in the short term, wears out his welcome quickly. not sure that that isn't what this team needs now, though, tbh.... Sounds a lot like Mike Kennan maybe not quite that big of an asshole. lol. hey, you live down there! what's the scoop? why was he ousted? |
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Post by vadarx on Feb 21, 2020 17:48:40 GMT -6
he works his players hard. good in the short term, wears out his welcome quickly. not sure that that isn't what this team needs now, though, tbh.... Not sure if double-negative or not, but I think this is exactly what the team needs we are in agreement. |
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Post by shooter61 on Feb 21, 2020 18:01:37 GMT -6
And he wore out his welcome in 2 years in Vegas. I wonder why? he works his players hard. good in the short term, wears out his welcome quickly. not sure that that isn't what this team needs now, |
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Post by shooter61 on Feb 21, 2020 18:04:50 GMT -6
he works his players hard. good in the short term, wears out his welcome quickly. not sure that that isn't what this team needs now, Don't know where you got that info from, certainly not from his players, the few i have spoken to, said it was a FO thing , I worked with Turk for two years , very good with players , but he does expect you to play the way he thinks you can , |
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Post by galaxytrash on Feb 21, 2020 18:07:08 GMT -6
Not sure if double-negative or not, but I think this is exactly what the team needs we are in agreement. so you're not saying you don't agree? |
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Post by hsbob on Feb 21, 2020 18:09:20 GMT -6
Not sure if double-negative or not, but I think this is exactly what the team needs we are in agreement. Do you really believe this is a good team that only loses because of a lack of effort? You can whip nags till your arm falls off but they ain't beatin' thoroughbreds. |
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Post by vadarx on Feb 21, 2020 18:34:54 GMT -6
Do you really believe this is a good team that only loses because of a lack of effort? You can whip nags till your arm falls off but they ain't beatin' thoroughbreds.   not really. but I think it is lacking a lot of the time, too. someone a little more demanding might be a good thing for this crew for a bit. |
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Post by vadarx on Feb 21, 2020 18:37:35 GMT -6
Don't know where you got that info from, certainly not from his players, the few i have spoken to, said it was a FO thing , I worked with Turk for two years , very good with players , but he does expect you to play the way he thinks you can , my opinion is formed mostly from watching his teams play. his style requires a lot of effort and while it works it also wears teams out after a bit it seems. when i said wears out his welcome, that is more what i meant, i don't recall any player ever saying a bad thing about him. i think he is a good coach and i would be a fan if he were replace our current coach. |
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Post by vadarx on Feb 21, 2020 18:38:49 GMT -6
so you're not saying you don't agree? you are not wrong, sir. |
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Post by hsbob on Feb 21, 2020 18:59:32 GMT -6
Do you really believe this is a good team that only loses because of a lack of effort? You can whip nags till your arm falls off but they ain't beatin' thoroughbreds. not really. but I think it is lacking a lot of the time, too. someone a little more demanding might be a good thing for this crew for a bit. You can bag skate Kane and Toews till the cows come home but Ryan Carpenter would still be the team's 2LC. Maybe the problem with all the young players regressing is discipline but if it was as easy as just kickin' guys in the ass,a lot of coaches would still have jobs. A goaltender stopping' 85% of the shots he sees hasn't helped either. |
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Post by vadarx on Feb 21, 2020 19:11:44 GMT -6
not really. but I think it is lacking a lot of the time, too. someone a little more demanding might be a good thing for this crew for a bit. You can bag skate Kane and Toews till the cows come home but Ryan Carpenter would still be the team's 2LC. Maybe the problem with all the young players regressing is discipline but if it was as easy as just kickin' guys in the ass,a lot of coaches would still have jobs. A goaltender stopping' 85% of the shots he sees hasn't helped either. imo, a coach with maybe a few less hair follicles, a few more grays, and a bunch more skates as a big leaguer might work better in the room compared to what we currently have. besides, Carpenter is the 2LC because the coach is playing him there. I can think of 2 players that should be playing there right now.... |
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Post by vadarx on Feb 21, 2020 19:22:21 GMT -6
so we are clear Bob, I agree on Carpenter 100%. now that things are looking grim, I think you let the youngster man that post for the rest of the season.
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Post by T-man2010 on Feb 21, 2020 19:27:48 GMT -6
Gus sitting out tonight, "precautionary reasons"....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2020 21:04:20 GMT -6
Sounds a lot like Mike Kennan maybe not quite that big of an asshole. lol. hey, you live down there! what's the scoop? why was he ousted? This is an article I found and straight from Gallant:
"I wasn't fired because of analytics," he continued. "I loved coaching the Florida Panthers and I'm a stubborn guy at times; maybe I said a little too much, maybe I gave my opinion a little bit too much. Maybe when they asked for my opinion, I have an honest opinion and sometimes it doesn't help you. Maybe it wasn't always what they wanted to hear. I don't know where it went from there ..."
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Post by vadarx on Feb 21, 2020 21:29:59 GMT -6
well there ya go. I didn't recall it being a player issue, kinda thought it was some bs him being let go by Florida.
sounds like a guy a new GM would have to hire.
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Post by hsbob on Feb 21, 2020 22:32:07 GMT -6
so we are clear Bob, I agree on Carpenter 100%. now that things are looking grim, I think you let the youngster man that post for the rest of the season. I wasn't knocking Carpenter,he was a decent acquisition,he plays hard and he's a good 4LC....maybe 3LC in a pinch. |
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Post by vadarx on Feb 22, 2020 1:47:54 GMT -6
so we are clear Bob, I agree on Carpenter 100%. now that things are looking grim, I think you let the youngster man that post for the rest of the season. I wasn't knocking Carpenter,he was a decent acquisition,he plays hard and he's a good 4LC....maybe 3LC in a pinch. agree. 2LC is not where he should be playing. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Feb 22, 2020 6:49:50 GMT -6
Can't wait to see what bottom feeder reclamation project SB will dredge for Gus.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Feb 22, 2020 9:13:43 GMT -6
so we are clear Bob, I agree on Carpenter 100%. now that things are looking grim, I think you let the youngster man that post for the rest of the season. I wasn't knocking Carpenter,he was a decent acquisition,he plays hard and he's a good 4LC....maybe 3LC in a pinch. I really like Carpenter, but yeah, not at 2C, he's a perfect 4C, 3C if needed. I get why Colliton has him with Kane, he wants a defensive center who can win draws, to bad he can't keep up in the offensive zone though. Strome isn't a winger but I'd much rather see him with Saad and Kane. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Feb 22, 2020 9:19:56 GMT -6
Can't wait to see what bottom feeder reclamation project SB will dredge for Gus. Hopefully none, hopefully it's a draft pick or decent prospect. |
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Post by hsbob on Feb 22, 2020 9:35:26 GMT -6
I wasn't knocking Carpenter,he was a decent acquisition,he plays hard and he's a good 4LC....maybe 3LC in a pinch. I really like Carpenter, but yeah, not at 2C, he's a perfect 4C, 3C if needed. I get why Colliton has him with Kane, he wants a defensive center who can win draws, to bad he can't keep up in the offensive zone though. Strome isn't a winger but I'd much rather see him with Saad and Kane. Strome has the better FO% between the two but Carp is a bit better defensively. I'd have Strome up with those two mainly for assessment purposes,big decision coming up with Strome and I'd want to know if he's the 2LC or not or a center or not for that matter. At least our scoring was spread out last night......all one goal of it! |
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Post by hsbob on Feb 22, 2020 9:36:21 GMT -6
Can't wait to see what bottom feeder reclamation project SB will dredge for Gus. Hopefully none, hopefully it's a draft pick or decent prospect. I'll take a bag o pucks! |
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