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Post by BigT on Feb 22, 2020 9:50:37 GMT -6
Gus to Carolina? It’s really sounding like it. I’m sure someone will come in and undercut Carolina and they’ll pay less than the Canes, and of course Stan will take the lesser value. Oh well, let’s hope the stubborn front office doesn’t keep Stan around much longer. He clearly had no clue how to solve this riddle. #needafreshsetofeyes!!!
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Post by T-man2010 on Feb 22, 2020 11:17:13 GMT -6
Gus to Carolina? It’s really sounding like it. I’m sure someone will come in and undercut Carolina and they’ll pay less than the Canes, and of course Stan will take the lesser value. Oh well, let’s hope the stubborn front office doesn’t keep Stan around much longer. He clearly had no clue how to solve this riddle. #needafreshsetofeyes!!! SB is searching for which team is in need of a turnover machine defenseman.
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Post by LordKOTL on Feb 22, 2020 14:20:49 GMT -6
Gus to Carolina? It’s really sounding like it. I’m sure someone will come in and undercut Carolina and they’ll pay less than the Canes, and of course Stan will take the lesser value. Oh well, let’s hope the stubborn front office doesn’t keep Stan around much longer. He clearly had no clue how to solve this riddle. #needafreshsetofeyes!!! SB is searching for which team is in need of a turnover machine defenseman. If that was the case...what EuroSquad took Runblad off our hands?
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Post by tincup on Feb 24, 2020 18:43:17 GMT -6
So Bowman trades the two guys these boards wanted traded. No more imagination than that. The team isn’t much weaker than before and we got a second and third back which makes up for the bad Shaw trade I guess. Except we’re worse off in goal but then Lehner has really been struggling. We ride Crawford to the end but if he’s tweaked and Subban looks like the first round miss that he seems to be, maybe we get that top three pick we need after all. And a couple of our young defensemen get some time.
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Post by T-man2010 on Feb 24, 2020 23:08:51 GMT -6
So Bowman trades the two guys these boards wanted traded. No more imagination than that. The team isn’t much weaker than before and we got a second and third back which makes up for the bad Shaw trade I guess. Except we’re worse off in goal but then Lehner has really been struggling. We ride Crawford to the end but if he’s tweaked and Subban looks like the first round miss that he seems to be, maybe we get that top three pick we need after all. And a couple of our young defensemen get some time. Shouldn't the young D-men go back to Rockford to help the team that actually has a shot to make the play-offs?
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Post by tincup on Feb 25, 2020 0:36:48 GMT -6
So Bowman trades the two guys these boards wanted traded. No more imagination than that. The team isn’t much weaker than before and we got a second and third back which makes up for the bad Shaw trade I guess. Except we’re worse off in goal but then Lehner has really been struggling. We ride Crawford to the end but if he’s tweaked and Subban looks like the first round miss that he seems to be, maybe we get that top three pick we need after all. And a couple of our young defensemen get some time. Shouldn't the young D-men go back to Rockford to help the team that actually has a shot to make the play-offs? GT made some reference in the Rockford thread about Carlsson having a paper transaction today to keep him eligible for the AHL playoffs. But not Boqvist it seems. Best of both worlds, we get to see what Carlsson’s got I hope and he still goes down if Rockford gets in. We have to start to audition some of these guys to see what we’ve got.
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Post by BigT on Feb 25, 2020 7:24:42 GMT -6
I’d have to think the org told Stan that they want to make the playoffs, and the only thing he can trade is the loose ends they won’t re-sign anyways. If they miss, they’re going in a totally different direction and Stan will be gone. The org is letting him see his plan through, and not getting duped into new longer contracts. If they make it, he literally is probably saved. So there’s issues with both making and missing. But I feel making is going to hurt a lot longer!!!
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Post by T-man2010 on Feb 25, 2020 7:57:16 GMT -6
Shouldn't the young D-men go back to Rockford to help the team that actually has a shot to make the play-offs? GT made some reference in the Rockford thread about Carlsson having a paper transaction today to keep him eligible for the AHL playoffs. But not Boqvist it seems. Best of both worlds, we get to see what Carlsson’s got I hope and he still goes down if Rockford gets in. We have to start to audition some of these guys to see what we’ve got. What if Rockford miss's the play offs because Carlsson is not there?
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Post by T-man2010 on Feb 25, 2020 7:58:46 GMT -6
I’d have to think the org told Stan that they want to make the playoffs, and the only thing he can trade is the loose ends they won’t re-sign anyways. If they miss, they’re going in a totally different direction and Stan will be gone. The org is letting him see his plan through, and not getting duped into new longer contracts. If they make it, he literally is probably saved. So there’s issues with both making and missing. But I feel making is going to hurt a lot longer!!! I wouldn't exactly say they were "duped", they signed off and approved the contracts. So McDonuts and Rocky are as much to blame as SB.
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Post by BigT on Feb 25, 2020 9:10:03 GMT -6
I’d have to think the org told Stan that they want to make the playoffs, and the only thing he can trade is the loose ends they won’t re-sign anyways. If they miss, they’re going in a totally different direction and Stan will be gone. The org is letting him see his plan through, and not getting duped into new longer contracts. If they make it, he literally is probably saved. So there’s issues with both making and missing. But I feel making is going to hurt a lot longer!!! I wouldn't exactly say they were "duped", they signed off and approved the contracts. So McDonuts and Rocky are as much to blame as SB. I didn’t mean past contracts. I was saying about present or future ones. I don’t think the org would want to be duped into more committed salary at this point. Which furthers my next point that Stans team has to make it or he’s done!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2020 13:22:35 GMT -6
Wouldn't this be the perfect time to fire Bowman? What's left to do for the remainder of this season? With the trade deadline passed, a new GM now would have the remainder of the season to set up his staff and evaluate the team, then start making necessary changes as soon as possible. Waiting until the season is over means time lost at finding a GM first, then it's right into getting ready for the draft and free agency with little to no prep time. Firing Bowman now gets the front office set up to succeed immediately.
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Post by T-man2010 on Feb 25, 2020 14:28:43 GMT -6
Wouldn't this be the perfect time to fire Bowman? What's left to do for the remainder of this season? With the trade deadline passed, a new GM now would have the remainder of the season to set up his staff and evaluate the team, then start making necessary changes as soon as possible. Waiting until the season is over means time lost at finding a GM first, then it's right into getting ready for the draft and free agency with little to no prep time. Firing Bowman now gets the front office set up to succeed immediately. I said similar on page 16, comment 24 thread around the league/other team news.
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Post by vonbeck on Feb 25, 2020 14:38:48 GMT -6
I’d have to think the org told Stan that they want to make the playoffs, and the only thing he can trade is the loose ends they won’t re-sign anyways. If they miss, they’re going in a totally different direction and Stan will be gone. The org is letting him see his plan through, and not getting duped into new longer contracts. If they make it, he literally is probably saved. So there’s issues with both making and missing. But I feel making is going to hurt a lot longer!!! I get down on my knees and pray everyday that Stan "Dough-man" is fired from this org. and McDoughnut is right behind him.
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Post by vonbeck on Feb 25, 2020 14:42:27 GMT -6
Wouldn't this be the perfect time to fire Bowman? What's left to do for the remainder of this season? With the trade deadline passed, a new GM now would have the remainder of the season to set up his staff and evaluate the team, then start making necessary changes as soon as possible. Waiting until the season is over means time lost at finding a GM first, then it's right into getting ready for the draft and free agency with little to no prep time. Firing Bowman now gets the front office set up to succeed immediately. I said similar on page 16, comment 24 thread around the league/other team news. They also need to re-evaluate their scouting dept. Any names out there for quality GM's?
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Post by shooter61 on Feb 25, 2020 16:55:31 GMT -6
Sorry, got to disagree about the scouting, they have done well drafting , just can't keep Stan from trading them away
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Post by T-man2010 on Feb 25, 2020 16:58:36 GMT -6
I said similar on page 16, comment 24 thread around the league/other team news. They also need to re-evaluate their scouting dept. Any names out there for quality GM's? Hunter brothers for GM and coach.
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Post by hsbob on Feb 25, 2020 17:00:09 GMT -6
Wouldn't this be the perfect time to fire Bowman? What's left to do for the remainder of this season? With the trade deadline passed, a new GM now would have the remainder of the season to set up his staff and evaluate the team, then start making necessary changes as soon as possible. Waiting until the season is over means time lost at finding a GM first, then it's right into getting ready for the draft and free agency with little to no prep time. Firing Bowman now gets the front office set up to succeed immediately. I still like T's idea of shooting him out of a canon!LOFL!!!!!
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Post by vadarx on Feb 26, 2020 1:57:01 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Feb 26, 2020 1:59:23 GMT -6
trying to figure out how:
on one hand we are trying to acquire as many picks as we can so we can get a big group of young guys on board, and on the other, we are trading 2nd and 3rd rounders for oft concussed former players and holding onto guys like Gus until their value is less and we cannot get a higher round pick for him....
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Post by jimakablkhwks918 on Feb 26, 2020 6:03:49 GMT -6
So now we don't really like our team? This bumbling dope, his clueless baseball marketer boss, and his puke faced stupid coach need to go immediately.
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Post by hsbob on Feb 26, 2020 9:35:02 GMT -6
Reading that article,I'll take SB at his word and here's what I got out of it..... "I think it's good to ask the players what they think to be honest with you",Kane said. "We're the ones who are playing every night. We see what's going on in the locker room. We see who's tough to play against in the league,what teams are tough to play against. That would be a good road to go." This suggest player input is unwelcomed and SB's response was a contradiction coming out of both sides of his mouth and I paraphrase...….. Bowman said he doesn't believe it's necessarily fair to bring players into the decision making process but admitted the leadership group has earned the respect to have their voices heard based on what they've accomplished in Chicago......which is it? He went on to say..... "If we knew exactly what the future held then you could have that conversation,but it's just a lot of guess work on everybody's part as far as nobody knows what our team's going to be year to year". "So I think that's why their job is to play hockey" doesn't sound like player opinions will matter much in the future either if I read that right. Maybe "nobody knows what our team's going to be year to year" because of all the "guess work" and trading Henri Jokiharu was some bad "guess work" my friends!
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Post by jimakablkhwks918 on Feb 26, 2020 10:33:02 GMT -6
Reading that article,I'll take SB at his word and here's what I got out of it..... "I think it's good to ask the players what they think to be honest with you",Kane said. "We're the ones who are playing every night. We see what's going on in the locker room. We see who's tough to play against in the league,what teams are tough to play against. That would be a good road to go." This suggest player input is unwelcomed and SB's response was a contradiction coming out of both sides of his mouth and I paraphrase...….. Bowman said he doesn't believe it's necessarily fair to bring players into the decision making process but admitted the leadership group has earned the respect to have their voices heard based on what they've accomplished in Chicago......which is it? He went on to say..... "If we knew exactly what the future held then you could have that conversation,but it's just a lot of guess work on everybody's part as far as nobody knows what our team's going to be year to year". "So I think that's why their job is to play hockey" doesn't sound like player opinions will matter much in the future either if I read that right. Maybe "nobody knows what our team's going to be year to year" because of all the "guess work" and trading Henri Jokiharu was some bad "guess work" my friends! So now it's "STFU and play hockey, Kane."
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Post by hsbob on Feb 26, 2020 10:54:03 GMT -6
Reading that article,I'll take SB at his word and here's what I got out of it..... "I think it's good to ask the players what they think to be honest with you",Kane said. "We're the ones who are playing every night. We see what's going on in the locker room. We see who's tough to play against in the league,what teams are tough to play against. That would be a good road to go." This suggest player input is unwelcomed and SB's response was a contradiction coming out of both sides of his mouth and I paraphrase...….. Bowman said he doesn't believe it's necessarily fair to bring players into the decision making process but admitted the leadership group has earned the respect to have their voices heard based on what they've accomplished in Chicago......which is it? He went on to say..... "If we knew exactly what the future held then you could have that conversation,but it's just a lot of guess work on everybody's part as far as nobody knows what our team's going to be year to year". "So I think that's why their job is to play hockey" doesn't sound like player opinions will matter much in the future either if I read that right. Maybe "nobody knows what our team's going to be year to year" because of all the "guess work" and trading Henri Jokiharu was some bad "guess work" my friends! So now it's "STFU and play hockey, Kane." Maybe Kane's a prima donna and JT's just an overpaid bum but I'll tell ya what,it looked like the Blues were gonna blow us out of the building before JT muscled two FO's away from one of the best in the league that led directly to the tying and go ahead goal. Keith,Kane and Saad all did what they were suppose to also. The lack of quality depth will kill you against a good team and it did last night. I don't know how much input veteran players should have but I have to think the great ones have their share.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Feb 26, 2020 11:03:05 GMT -6
I truly hope Bowman is gone at the end of the season, send Mcdonut and Colliton with him. It's a disgrace how Stan wasted 3 prime seasons of Toews and Kanes. Now a source close to Lehner is saying he told Bowman he'd sign a 3yr deal at a hometown discount because he really liked it here. And hearing Toews and Kanes response to the trade, they were shocked as well and thought Robin would've been here a while.
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Post by hsbob on Feb 26, 2020 11:25:34 GMT -6
I truly hope Bowman is gone at the end of the season, send Mcdonut and Colliton with him. It's a disgrace how Stan wasted 3 prime seasons of Toews and Kanes. Now a source close to Lehner is saying he told Bowman he'd sign a 3yr deal at a hometown discount because he really liked it here. And hearing Toews and Kanes response to the trade, they were shocked as well and thought Robin would've been here a while. C'mon OTH,Kane and Toews ae the root of all the team's evils!LOFL!!!!
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Post by jimakablkhwks918 on Feb 26, 2020 12:33:17 GMT -6
I truly hope Bowman is gone at the end of the season, send Mcdonut and Colliton with him. It's a disgrace how Stan wasted 3 prime seasons of Toews and Kanes. Now a source close to Lehner is saying he told Bowman he'd sign a 3yr deal at a hometown discount because he really liked it here. And hearing Toews and Kanes response to the trade, they were shocked as well and thought Robin would've been here a while. C'mon OTH,Kane and Toews ae the root of all the team's evils!LOFL!!!! Got to have someone to blame now that Q isn't here to be the scapegoat.
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Post by Tater on Feb 26, 2020 13:15:18 GMT -6
Reading that article,I'll take SB at his word and here's what I got out of it..... "I think it's good to ask the players what they think to be honest with you",Kane said. "We're the ones who are playing every night. We see what's going on in the locker room. We see who's tough to play against in the league,what teams are tough to play against. That would be a good road to go." This suggest player input is unwelcomed and SB's response was a contradiction coming out of both sides of his mouth and I paraphrase...….. Bowman said he doesn't believe it's necessarily fair to bring players into the decision making process but admitted the leadership group has earned the respect to have their voices heard based on what they've accomplished in Chicago......which is it? He went on to say..... "If we knew exactly what the future held then you could have that conversation,but it's just a lot of guess work on everybody's part as far as nobody knows what our team's going to be year to year". "So I think that's why their job is to play hockey" doesn't sound like player opinions will matter much in the future either if I read that right. Maybe "nobody knows what our team's going to be year to year" because of all the "guess work" and trading Henri Jokiharu was some bad "guess work" my friends!
Sounds like Stan was just talking in circles. Maybe he should be a politician.
Either way, I hope his time is up here, he seems clueless.
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Post by T-man2010 on Feb 26, 2020 14:13:42 GMT -6
If that article doesn't show McNumbnuts and Rockwell that SB knows nothing about hockey or hockey players and all he did was ride the testicle hairs of his fathers fame, then it's time for the Wirtz family to sell the team.
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Post by shooter61 on Feb 26, 2020 18:20:31 GMT -6
I heard from a St,Louis scout they never offered Robin a contract,and was never in their plans going forward, If that was the case then why the hell bring him here
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Post by hsbob on Feb 26, 2020 18:37:01 GMT -6
I heard from a St,Louis scout they never offered Robin a contract,and was never in their plans going forward, If that was the case then why the hell bring him here What plans? LOL!
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