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Post by BigT on Nov 2, 2019 20:03:46 GMT -6
No rap on Dach as a player, but in terms of cap and contract management, I think bringing him up this year is a bad idea. He is not going to be the difference in the team making a real run at the Cup this year. I believe it's a waste of a year of eligibility, and it's being done out of desperation by Stan to save his job. It would be more demoralizing to both Dach and Boqvist if theyre nit with the big club for reasons of cap and contract management. If they deserve to be up, then they deserve to be. Ice the best team, right? Players performing should be players playing. Speaking if which, toews is invisible again. Way to be a leader. Im starting to think hes a product of a team in front of him, not the elite player that hes known to be (like Kane and Hossa) I think Toews is definitely elite. Even Hossa’s points fell off the earth 🌍 when he decided to play both ends of the ice. Hossa was a 40 goal guy, and I think he only got 30 once in 8 years as a Hawk, and his best offensive year was 77 points which he never came close to again. Toews is the same way, he tends to play tighter defensively and doesn’t play offense as much as he could. Last year we seen when he puts down the Selke trophy, he’s amongst the best in the game offensively. Plus this year we have to look at all the intangibles. Seabs is a very well respected guy and one of Toews best friends. Now he has to sit there as captain and watch this great guy get sat out and embarrassed due to Koekkoek playing. If there was a better option, I’d agree, but it’s a feeble attempt to get the guy to wanna leave. The rift between Q and Stan now seems to be between the leadership group and Stan. The best thing to do would be remove the guy who created this mess, and his so called coach, move on to greener pastures, and ones with less shit in them!!!
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 2, 2019 20:09:43 GMT -6
2nd. page....636 to go!!!
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 2, 2019 20:15:31 GMT -6
2nd. page....636 to go!!! only 530 +/- to go. 25 posts/page on the old boards and 30 posts a page here. : )
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 20:18:25 GMT -6
2nd. page....636 to go!!! Now wait a minute.....those pages only had 25 posts per page.....this has 30. So in reality it would end up being 530 pages to reach the same number of posts:
636 pages x 25 posts per page = 15,900 posts
15,900 posts / 30 posts per page = 530 pages
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 20:19:06 GMT -6
2nd. page....636 to go!!! only 530 +/- to go. 25 posts/page on the old boards and 30 posts a page here. : ) Great minds think alike! lol
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 2, 2019 20:23:56 GMT -6
only 530 +/- to go. 25 posts/page on the old boards and 30 posts a page here. : ) Great minds think alike! lol thnx for double checking my math.
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Nov 3, 2019 13:05:18 GMT -6
It would be more demoralizing to both Dach and Boqvist if theyre nit with the big club for reasons of cap and contract management. If they deserve to be up, then they deserve to be. Ice the best team, right? Players performing should be players playing. Speaking if which, toews is invisible again. Way to be a leader. Im starting to think hes a product of a team in front of him, not the elite player that hes known to be (like Kane and Hossa) I think Toews is definitely elite. Even Hossa’s points fell off the earth 🌍 when he decided to play both ends of the ice. Hossa was a 40 goal guy, and I think he only got 30 once in 8 years as a Hawk, and his best offensive year was 77 points which he never came close to again. Toews is the same way, he tends to play tighter defensively and doesn’t play offense as much as he could. Last year we seen when he puts down the Selke trophy, he’s amongst the best in the game offensively. Plus this year we have to look at all the intangibles. Seabs is a very well respected guy and one of Toews best friends. Now he has to sit there as captain and watch this great guy get sat out and embarrassed due to Koekkoek playing. If there was a better option, I’d agree, but it’s a feeble attempt to get the guy to wanna leave. The rift between Q and Stan now seems to be between the leadership group and Stan. The best thing to do would be remove the guy who created this mess, and his so called coach, move on to greener pastures, and ones with less shit in them!!! Fire them all
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Post by angoti on Nov 3, 2019 16:36:22 GMT -6
It would be more demoralizing to both Dach and Boqvist if theyre nit with the big club for reasons of cap and contract management. If they deserve to be up, then they deserve to be. Ice the best team, right? Players performing should be players playing. Speaking if which, toews is invisible again. Way to be a leader. Im starting to think hes a product of a team in front of him, not the elite player that hes known to be (like Kane and Hossa) I think Toews is definitely elite. Even Hossa’s points fell off the earth 🌍 when he decided to play both ends of the ice. Hossa was a 40 goal guy, and I think he only got 30 once in 8 years as a Hawk, and his best offensive year was 77 points which he never came close to again. Toews is the same way, he tends to play tighter defensively and doesn’t play offense as much as he could. Last year we seen when he puts down the Selke trophy, he’s amongst the best in the game offensively. Plus this year we have to look at all the intangibles. Seabs is a very well respected guy and one of Toews best friends. Now he has to sit there as captain and watch this great guy get sat out and embarrassed due to Koekkoek playing. If there was a better option, I’d agree, but it’s a feeble attempt to get the guy to wanna leave. The rift between Q and Stan now seems to be between the leadership group and Stan. The best thing to do would be remove the guy who created this mess, and his so called coach, move on to greener pastures, and ones with less shit in them!!! This is right on!!! And I’ve been on the Captain, but I know he’s just acting like a captain and playing along with this nonsense.
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Post by squishy24 on Nov 3, 2019 16:37:20 GMT -6
It would be more demoralizing to both Dach and Boqvist if theyre nit with the big club for reasons of cap and contract management. If they deserve to be up, then they deserve to be. Ice the best team, right? Players performing should be players playing. Speaking if which, toews is invisible again. Way to be a leader. Im starting to think hes a product of a team in front of him, not the elite player that hes known to be (like Kane and Hossa) I think Toews is definitely elite. Even Hossa’s points fell off the earth 🌍 when he decided to play both ends of the ice. Hossa was a 40 goal guy, and I think he only got 30 once in 8 years as a Hawk, and his best offensive year was 77 points which he never came close to again. Toews is the same way, he tends to play tighter defensively and doesn’t play offense as much as he could. Last year we seen when he puts down the Selke trophy, he’s amongst the best in the game offensively. Plus this year we have to look at all the intangibles. Seabs is a very well respected guy and one of Toews best friends. Now he has to sit there as captain and watch this great guy get sat out and embarrassed due to Koekkoek playing. If there was a better option, I’d agree, but it’s a feeble attempt to get the guy to wanna leave. The rift between Q and Stan now seems to be between the leadership group and Stan. The best thing to do would be remove the guy who created this mess, and his so called coach, move on to greener pastures, and ones with less shit in them!!! When was the last time toews was in selke or mvp conversation? He wasnt an “elite” on either side (offense or defense) when he focus on either one. Hes always needed another good linemate to become “elite”. Seabs didnt get scratched until the games were into double digits. Both him and toews have been invisible before that, not a good reason for toews play. Granted he just had a gtg, so hopefully hes out of his slow start. Im tired of the excuse that these elite leaders can play better with better teammates. Well guess what? Anyone can play better with better teammates. Arent they suppose to be the “better” players making everyone around them better and leading the charge? They cant even do their average. For reference Kane still produce even with crappy linemates. Toews? Keith? Seabs? Can they only do that with better linemates or better pairs? The worst part is, theyre all in the decline. SB have proven that loyalty will only further demise this team.
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Post by angoti on Nov 3, 2019 16:56:25 GMT -6
I think Toews is definitely elite. Even Hossa’s points fell off the earth 🌍 when he decided to play both ends of the ice. Hossa was a 40 goal guy, and I think he only got 30 once in 8 years as a Hawk, and his best offensive year was 77 points which he never came close to again. Toews is the same way, he tends to play tighter defensively and doesn’t play offense as much as he could. Last year we seen when he puts down the Selke trophy, he’s amongst the best in the game offensively. Plus this year we have to look at all the intangibles. Seabs is a very well respected guy and one of Toews best friends. Now he has to sit there as captain and watch this great guy get sat out and embarrassed due to Koekkoek playing. If there was a better option, I’d agree, but it’s a feeble attempt to get the guy to wanna leave. The rift between Q and Stan now seems to be between the leadership group and Stan. The best thing to do would be remove the guy who created this mess, and his so called coach, move on to greener pastures, and ones with less shit in them!!! When was the last time toews was in selke or mvp conversation? He wasnt an “elite” on either side (offense or defense) when he focus on either one. Hes always needed another good linemate to become “elite”. Seabs didnt get scratched until the games were into double digits. Both him and toews have been invisible before that, not a good reason for toews play. Granted he just had a gtg, so hopefully hes out of his slow start. Im tired of the excuse that these elite leaders can play better with better teammates. Well guess what? Anyone can play better with better teammates. Arent they suppose to be the “better” players making everyone around them better and leading the charge? They cant even do their average. For reference Kane still produce even with crappy linemates. Toews? Keith? Seabs? Can they only do that with better linemates or better pairs? The worst part is, theyre all in the decline. SB have proven that loyalty will only further demise this team. Let’s be honest here Kaner plays half a game compared to the others you mention, not to say he’s not a phenomenal offensive player, but he’s disappeared in many many games and doesn’t have the responsibility to do the dirty work, and that’s ok I get that. I always said he’ll last a lot longer in the NHL Because of his style the Captain on the other end plays both ends.. so I guess it depends on what your definition of elite is. Don’t get me wrong I complained about his play this year.. but as Roenick once said at times under Sutter he felt like he was on a bungee cord..
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Post by hsbob on Nov 4, 2019 10:39:02 GMT -6
It would be more demoralizing to both Dach and Boqvist if theyre nit with the big club for reasons of cap and contract management. If they deserve to be up, then they deserve to be. Ice the best team, right? Players performing should be players playing. Speaking if which, toews is invisible again. Way to be a leader. Im starting to think hes a product of a team in front of him, not the elite player that hes known to be (like Kane and Hossa) I think Toews is definitely elite. Even Hossa’s points fell off the earth 🌍 when he decided to play both ends of the ice. Hossa was a 40 goal guy, and I think he only got 30 once in 8 years as a Hawk, and his best offensive year was 77 points which he never came close to again. Toews is the same way, he tends to play tighter defensively and doesn’t play offense as much as he could. Last year we seen when he puts down the Selke trophy, he’s amongst the best in the game offensively. Plus this year we have to look at all the intangibles. Seabs is a very well respected guy and one of Toews best friends. Now he has to sit there as captain and watch this great guy get sat out and embarrassed due to Koekkoek playing. If there was a better option, I’d agree, but it’s a feeble attempt to get the guy to wanna leave. The rift between Q and Stan now seems to be between the leadership group and Stan. The best thing to do would be remove the guy who created this mess, and his so called coach, move on to greener pastures, and ones with less shit in them!!! I can understand a fan's outrage(LOL) at five points in his first 13 games but an effort to diminish his entire career is nothing more than an agenda......have no doubt about that. It's a shame this has sunk to me having to point out negatives about a player I respect as much as Marian Hossa but myths need to be dispelled. OF COURSE Toews' and Hossa's games complemented each other to the tune of three cups but JT put up 24/54 in 64 games as a rookie and followed that up with a 34 goal sophomore campaign while Big Hoss was still off chasin' cups with the Pens and Wings.....just a fact. How many BHB members said "you could just lay a 2X4 on the ice to stop Hossa" when they considered him to old to lift the puck any more during a dinged-up,13 goal campaign back in 15-16? I was in the minority when I came to the great player's support back then just the way I do with the great players now and Big Hoss shut people up with a solid,26 goal bounce back the following year. What would be said about JT if HE put up a 13 goal year? Marian Hossa absolutely was an advantage for Jonathan Toews as he would be for any two-way center for two reasons. Hossa was as complete a player as there is and his style of play meshed with Toews due to their similarities but let's not forget the two way nature of that street. I know absence makes the heart grow fonder when great players like Hoss and Hammer leave but great players like Hoss and Hammer were also part of the first round exit in 16 and the sweep in 17......just a fact. JT had a few tough dinged-up seasons and Kane had a couple of his best with the Breadman(News flash; all great players are better with great line mates), while Toews was riding the coat tails of guys like Panik and Kahun!LOL! By all accounts,the team really didn't have a true #2 center in 10 and 13 but Bolland helped a lot as did Richards and Vermette in 15 but there was ALWAYS a #1! JT and Kane both put up career years skating with an assortment of black holes on their line last year to no avail and I have no excuses or an explanation for Toews' start so far but I do advise staying tuned. The demands of the game JT plays has led other great two way centers like Giroux(3 goals so far) and Kopitar to put up 14 and 12 goal seasons respectively not that long ago...….could you imagine! Maybe .37 goals a game,.85 points a game,a career FO percentage around 57% and stellar two way play isn't 'elite' in some books but it is in mine......how many cups are won without Jonathan Toews?
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Post by hawks27 on Nov 4, 2019 13:17:48 GMT -6
Great post, Bob. Toews has usually been a slow starter at the beginning of the season. Why, I'm not sure? He was that way in his two years at North Dakota U. also. I'd much rather have him in the Indian Head than lining up against it.
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Post by vadarx on Nov 4, 2019 16:50:45 GMT -6
Great post, Bob. Toews has usually been a slow starter at the beginning of the season. Why, I'm not sure? He was that way in his two years at North Dakota U. also. I'd much rather have him in the Indian Head than lining up against it. agree on all counts. well said, Bob. why is this thread being turned into a bitch about Toews thread now? he has his own, this one is for bitching about Bowman.
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Post by BigT on Nov 4, 2019 17:15:31 GMT -6
Great post, Bob. Toews has usually been a slow starter at the beginning of the season. Why, I'm not sure? He was that way in his two years at North Dakota U. also. I'd much rather have him in the Indian Head than lining up against it. agree on all counts. well said, Bob. why is this thread being turned into a bitch about Toews thread now? he has his own, this one is for bitching about Bowman. I agree, gawd damn Bowman! Bobs post is spot on. Every time one of the higher paid guys start slow or anything like that, there careers get called into question. Yet when Stan strikes out time and time again, he gets praise for something he really didn’t do. Then when that becomes reality all we hear is how he provided the most crucial pieces to the puzzle, the fringe players. No, not the stars, but the odd player he got offered at the deadline. I still think to truly move this forward, we need to ditch the witch. Say good bye to Staniel S Bowman!!!
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Post by BigT on Nov 4, 2019 22:01:31 GMT -6
2nd. page....636 to go!!! If Bowman is still around in 600+ pages, Stan is the smartest guy ever. He fooled everyone forever. Then I would probably be a fan of his due to his craftiness, then watch him slither into the gaping void!!!
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Post by doogiew on Nov 5, 2019 6:52:00 GMT -6
2nd. page....636 to go!!! If Bowman is still around in 600+ pages, Stan is the smartest guy ever. He fooled everyone forever. Then I would probably be a fan of his due to his craftiness, then watch him slither into the gaping void!!! It's my belief that we're stuck with Stanley as long as Scotty is alive and involved with the Hawks organization. It was all rather coincidental if you ask me that Scotty came over from Detroit all about the same time as Stan's rise to power. Scotty came over in 2008 and Stanley is promoted to GM in 2009 replacing Dale Tallon as GM. Thus the reason many believing the cup teams belonged to Tallon. After all it was Tallons rebuild that provided the core and many players there after from the minors. Many believe also however that Stan built the 2015 Cup team by adding the likes of Richards Vermette etc. These however were support staff. They did play a part in wining the cup however so some credit will be given to those who admire Stan. It's often said that Scotty advises Stan on moves and such, that may be true as Scotty was never a good GM. He was a great coach but his brief tenors as GM were just that brief. So as I said Stan in my opinion is where he is for one reason and that was to bring Scotty into the organization and away from Detroit as at the time those above Tallon were looking to steal anyone they could from the Detroit organization. Q survived as long as he did only because they could't fire a Cup winning coach it was never any secret that Q and Stan didn't like each other and by either accident or design Stan was giving Q sub-par talent to work with ignoring his coach's player needs. Oh The End!
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Post by hsbob on Nov 5, 2019 7:39:35 GMT -6
I still remember back to a road PO game in 09(Detroit maybe) and seeing Scotty yelling at and berating Tallon after a Campbell turnover up in a box or suite. I thought how could an assistant get away with berating his GM and why would the GM put up with that.........I found out not long after when Stan got the job. Dale knew the writing was on the wall.
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Post by hsbob on Nov 5, 2019 7:47:53 GMT -6
I became more critical because I thought the downturn would have been much less severe if some good young players were comin’ up the last four years but few did. I know we drafted late many years but good players come out of late 1st and 2nd-3rd rounds all the time.
I finally do see a few good young players as we should after cellar-dwelling the past few years.
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 5, 2019 8:57:07 GMT -6
We need a coach like this again.
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 5, 2019 9:44:43 GMT -6
We need a coach like this again. fun fact o' the day. billy reay's middle name was tulip.
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Post by BigT on Nov 6, 2019 20:34:19 GMT -6
I’m hearing a lot of rumblings right now. It’s starting to sound like Colliton may be let go. It is starting to sound like Stan may stay. My best guess right now is that Stan and McD are very tight, and it will take McD to retire to get rid of the Bowman’s. I did read an interview with McCub last season and he said he definitely won’t be working when he’s 70. He’s 66 now. Hopefully on his 67th bday next May he’ll retire and Stan will be gone too. Anyways, it’s really starting to sound like Colliton will be gone by Yanksgiving if he doesn’t turn it around. The only way I see this happening is if he lets the run and gun!!!
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Post by rinkrat21 on Nov 6, 2019 21:19:14 GMT -6
I’m hearing a lot of rumblings right now. It’s starting to sound like Colliton may be let go. It is starting to sound like Stan may stay. My best guess right now is that Stan and McD are very tight, and it will take McD to retire to get rid of the Bowman’s. I did read an interview with McCub last season and he said he definitely won’t be working when he’s 70. He’s 66 now. Hopefully on his 67th bday next May he’ll retire and Stan will be gone too. Anyways, it’s really starting to sound like Colliton will be gone by Yanksgiving if he doesn’t turn it around. The only way I see this happening is if he lets the run and gun!!! So Rocky has no say in this? McDonut is the captain of the ship? When is the owner gonna grow a nut sack and clean house? It’s looking more and more like Rocky was simply at the right place at the right time just like SB was. What else has he done besides putting the home games back on tv? Oh yeah, he endorsed the firing of the GM who helped build the Cup teams in order to appease Scotty and give his son the job. And he also endorsed the firing of one of the greatest coaches in the history of the game. And he has raised ticket prices a significant amount over the last decade. Pathetic. The apple usually doesn’t fall far from the tree. My disdain for this franchise hasn’t been this high since the 1990’s - mid 2000’s.
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 6, 2019 21:50:36 GMT -6
if the coach and g.m. are fired, who are the replacements? or better yet...who picks the replacements? mcdonough? jay blunk? can't be them, they're not hockey people in that sense.
so it's maciver? or macisaac? they've been advising stan for as long as stan has been g.m. maybe they're part of the problem? or was stan just not taking their advice.
if i was rocky i'd fire stan, JC and mcdonough. promote crawford and see where he can take this team.
i'd find a former player/coach/g.m. to take the president's job...someone fresh. (laugh if you want but ed olczyk comes to mind)
as far as g.m., i guess you go with one of the macs for now, but i'd lean towards maciver.
anyways....i hope JC just says screw this system he's on now and just lets the ponies run. i said it yesterday....we've got the goaltending and we're dead last in the league in shots against anyways. if colliton doesn't think he himself can adapt to a new system then he shouldn't be coaching in the NHL. but i think that's his last hope to keep his job.
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Post by vadarx on Nov 6, 2019 22:57:52 GMT -6
anyways....i hope JC just says screw this system he's on now and just lets the ponies run. i said it yesterday....we've got the goaltending and we're dead last in the league in shots against anyways. if colliton doesn't think he himself can adapt to a new system then he shouldn't be coaching in the NHL. but i think that's his last hope to keep his job. but, if that is what it takes, to completely abandon his system to succeed, what good is he then? i am thinking maybe someday he could be a better coach, but learning on the fly on the big stage ain't working so well right now. I say let him go, let Crawford take over until the end of the year and if they don't make the playoffs, let him go along with Stan.
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Post by rinkrat21 on Nov 6, 2019 23:36:34 GMT -6
anyways....i hope JC just says screw this system he's on now and just lets the ponies run. i said it yesterday....we've got the goaltending and we're dead last in the league in shots against anyways. if colliton doesn't think he himself can adapt to a new system then he shouldn't be coaching in the NHL. but i think that's his last hope to keep his job. but, if that is what it takes, to completely abandon his system to succeed, what good is he then? i am thinking maybe someday he could be a better coach, but learning on the fly on the big stage ain't working so well right now. I say let him go, let Crawford take over until the end of the year and if they don't make the playoffs, let him go along with Stan.
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Post by rinkrat21 on Nov 6, 2019 23:38:05 GMT -6
if the coach and g.m. are fired, who are the replacements? or better yet...who picks the replacements? mcdonough? jay blunk? can't be them, they're not hockey people in that sense. so it's maciver? or macisaac? they've been advising stan for as long as stan has been g.m. maybe they're part of the problem? or was stan just not taking their advice. if i was rocky i'd fire stan, JC and mcdonough. promote crawford and see where he can take this team. i'd find a former player/coach/g.m. to take the president's job...someone fresh. (laugh if you want but ed olczyk comes to mind) as far as g.m., i guess you go with one of the macs for now, but i'd lean towards maciver. anyways....i hope JC just says screw this system he's on now and just lets the ponies run. i said it yesterday....we've got the goaltending and we're dead last in the league in shots against anyways. if colliton doesn't think he himself can adapt to a new system then he shouldn't be coaching in the NHL. but i think that's his last hope to keep his job. The house needs to be cleaned from top to bottom with what has gone on here the last few years. And it isn’t just the player personal decisions. The decision to bring in JC to replace Q in hindsight looks like it was made by a bunch of 4th graders. And not just because JC isn’t an NHL coach, but also because Q clearly still is. Error in judgement on both sides of the equation and not even in the ballpark of being close to correct on either side. Simply pathetic.
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Post by Tater on Nov 7, 2019 3:14:14 GMT -6
Why oh why did they sign JC for 3 years?!? That is on Stan. If Rocky really wants the team to succeed, he'd get rid of McD, Stan and JC and start fresh.
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 7, 2019 3:33:47 GMT -6
if the coach and g.m. are fired, who are the replacements? or better yet...who picks the replacements? mcdonough? jay blunk? can't be them, they're not hockey people in that sense. so it's maciver? or macisaac? they've been advising stan for as long as stan has been g.m. maybe they're part of the problem? or was stan just not taking their advice. if i was rocky i'd fire stan, JC and mcdonough. promote crawford and see where he can take this team. i'd find a former player/coach/g.m. to take the president's job...someone fresh. (laugh if you want but ed olczyk comes to mind) as far as g.m., i guess you go with one of the macs for now, but i'd lean towards maciver. anyways....i hope JC just says screw this system he's on now and just lets the ponies run. i said it yesterday....we've got the goaltending and we're dead last in the league in shots against anyways. if colliton doesn't think he himself can adapt to a new system then he shouldn't be coaching in the NHL. but i think that's his last hope to keep his job. The house needs to be cleaned from top to bottom with what has gone on here the last few years. And it isn’t just the player personal decisions. The decision to bring in JC to replace Q in hindsight looks like it was made by a bunch of 4th graders. And not just because JC isn’t an NHL coach, but also because Q clearly still is. Error in judgement on both sides of the equation and not even in the ballpark of being close to correct on either side. Simply pathetic. i'm not going to question bowman's decision to hire JC because at the time i was all for it. i had a really good feeling about it at the time. young coach, success wherever he's coached, new fresh direction/ideas...etc. it appears i was wrong. last season we had a really long stretch of good hockey after a really long stretch of bad. for the life of me idk why he doesn't just say **** it and take another stab at the old run and gun. at least try and save his job.
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Post by vadarx on Nov 7, 2019 3:57:09 GMT -6
The house needs to be cleaned from top to bottom with what has gone on here the last few years. And it isn’t just the player personal decisions. The decision to bring in JC to replace Q in hindsight looks like it was made by a bunch of 4th graders. And not just because JC isn’t an NHL coach, but also because Q clearly still is. Error in judgement on both sides of the equation and not even in the ballpark of being close to correct on either side. Simply pathetic. i'm not going to question bowman's decision to hire JC because at the time i was all for it. i had a really good feeling about it at the time. young coach, success wherever he's coached, new fresh direction/ideas...etc. it appears i was wrong. last season we had a really long stretch of good hockey after a really long stretch of bad. for the life of me idk why he doesn't just say **** it and take another stab at the old run and gun. at least try and save his job. the run and gun would surely be more fun to watch! I dunno if it would save his job, though. we would still look awful on defense. maybe it would get us back in contention at least, though. gotta think if that is going to happen it'll happen soon. otherwise, I am really starting to feel like all this is meant to do is make the core unhappy and consider moving on and that thought just makes me sad.... I mean, it worked for him against Q. why not use it against the highly paid guys too?
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Post by jimakablkhwks918 on Nov 7, 2019 4:35:16 GMT -6
i'm not going to question bowman's decision to hire JC because at the time i was all for it. i had a really good feeling about it at the time. young coach, success wherever he's coached, new fresh direction/ideas...etc. it appears i was wrong. last season we had a really long stretch of good hockey after a really long stretch of bad. for the life of me idk why he doesn't just say **** it and take another stab at the old run and gun. at least try and save his job. the run and gun would surely be more fun to watch! I dunno if it would save his job, though. we would still look awful on defense. maybe it would get us back in contention at least, though. gotta think if that is going to happen it'll happen so. otherwise, I am really starting to feel like all this is meant to do is make the core unhappy and consider moving on and that thought just makes me sad.... I mean, it worked for him against Q. why not use it against the highly paid guys too? I sincerely hope that is not the case; if Rockwell is that loyal to his incompetent buddies over the actual players who "brought back a franchise from the dead," I may have to reconsider my loyalty to this team. It's bad enough that Q was basically shoved under the bus and run out of town in a last ditch attempt by the clueless front office to save their hides, but running the same scam on the is unconscionable. Sadly I think you may be at least partially right as it is my opinion that pressboxing a healthy Seabs was testing the water on this method.
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