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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 2, 2019 19:29:08 GMT -6
Since there isn't a lovable coaches out there, do the Hawks sign Edzo as coach?
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Dec 3, 2019 0:14:54 GMT -6
Since there isn't a lovable coaches out there, do the Hawks sign Edzo as coach? Him and Savard. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 3, 2019 0:18:54 GMT -6
Since there isn't a lovable coaches out there, do the Hawks sign Edzo as coach? Him and Savard. Make Edzo the GM and have a repeat of the first dynasty. Announcer to GM and 3 cups. |
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Post by rinkrat21 on Dec 3, 2019 16:01:11 GMT -6
Just checking in. SB still has his job? Nothing new to complain about then I guess. Same storyline for literally years now - the guy stinks at his job, has for a long time, yet is somehow is still employed by this historic franchise that seems to not care about mediocracy. It’s really a shame.
Someone wake me up when he is finally gone. Until then, it will be nothing but more of the same. Don’t get blinded when the team goes on their next 4-game win streak, because they will again at some point. But the reality is, even after the complete overhaul of the roster this past off season, there will be no playoffs yet again. And a good chance there won’t be until this egghead is finally relieved of his duties.
Bleh.
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Post by BigT on Dec 3, 2019 17:57:27 GMT -6
Just checking in. SB still has his job? Nothing new to complain about then I guess. Same storyline for literally years now - the guy stinks at his job, has for a long time, yet is somehow is still employed by this historic franchise that seems to not care about mediocracy. It’s really a shame. Someone wake me up when he is finally gone. Until then, it will be nothing but more of the same. Don’t get blinded when the team goes on their next 4-game win streak, because they will again at some point. But the reality is, even after the complete overhaul of the roster this past off season, there will be no playoffs yet again. And a good chance there won’t be until this egghead is finally relieved of his duties. Bleh. I miss you!!! |
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Post by rinkrat21 on Dec 3, 2019 19:02:14 GMT -6
Just checking in. SB still has his job? Nothing new to complain about then I guess. Same storyline for literally years now - the guy stinks at his job, has for a long time, yet is somehow is still employed by this historic franchise that seems to not care about mediocracy. It’s really a shame. Someone wake me up when he is finally gone. Until then, it will be nothing but more of the same. Don’t get blinded when the team goes on their next 4-game win streak, because they will again at some point. But the reality is, even after the complete overhaul of the roster this past off season, there will be no playoffs yet again. And a good chance there won’t be until this egghead is finally relieved of his duties. Bleh. I miss you!!! LOL. I miss you too buddy. I wish there was something new to talk about, but it’s pretty much been the same crap for a long time now. Nothing left to say. Just waiting for this buffoon to get fired. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 19:10:36 GMT -6
LOL. I miss you too buddy. I wish there was something new to talk about, but it’s pretty much been the same crap for a long time now. Nothing left to say. Just waiting for this buffoon to get fired. But who better to talk about the buffoon with then the likes of us?  |
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Post by rinkrat21 on Dec 3, 2019 19:22:15 GMT -6
LOL. I miss you too buddy. I wish there was something new to talk about, but it’s pretty much been the same crap for a long time now. Nothing left to say. Just waiting for this buffoon to get fired. But who better to talk about the buffoon with then the likes of us? I agree. But you were on the old boards as well. And I’m sure you’ve read literally hundreds of posts from me from as far back as 2011 calling for this guys head. I can’t think of anything else to point out or complain about with this idiot lol. Maybe time to start complaining about Rocky and why he continues to enable this clown? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 19:31:04 GMT -6
But who better to talk about the buffoon with then the likes of us? I agree. But you were on the old boards as well. And I’m sure you’ve read literally hundreds of posts from me from as far back as 2011 calling for this guys head. I can’t think of anything else to point out or complain about with this idiot lol. Maybe time to start complaining about Rocky and why he continues to enable this clown? T-man started out adding a couple of familiar threads....Bowman and Toews. But as time goes by I'm sure we'll see some new and fresh ones generated......I know, maybe I'll start one on Cristbal Huet lol
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Post by BigT on Dec 3, 2019 19:53:19 GMT -6
LOL. I miss you too buddy. I wish there was something new to talk about, but it’s pretty much been the same crap for a long time now. Nothing left to say. Just waiting for this buffoon to get fired. I know it’s pointless banter, but it’s meaningful pointless banter. I’d rather be with my own kind than the second kind (Bowman)!!! |
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 3, 2019 21:09:38 GMT -6
LOL. I miss you too buddy. I wish there was something new to talk about, but it’s pretty much been the same crap for a long time now. Nothing left to say. Just waiting for this buffoon to get fired. I know it’s pointless banter, but it’s meaningful pointless banter. I’d rather be with my own kind than the second kind (Bowman)!!!  |
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Post by Tater on Dec 4, 2019 0:32:53 GMT -6
Just checking in. SB still has his job? Nothing new to complain about then I guess. Same storyline for literally years now - the guy stinks at his job, has for a long time, yet is somehow is still employed by this historic franchise that seems to not care about mediocracy. It’s really a shame. Someone wake me up when he is finally gone. Until then, it will be nothing but more of the same. Don’t get blinded when the team goes on their next 4-game win streak, because they will again at some point. But the reality is, even after the complete overhaul of the roster this past off season, there will be no playoffs yet again. And a good chance there won’t be until this egghead is finally relieved of his duties.
Bleh. EGGHEAD!!!
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Post by hsbob on Dec 4, 2019 10:19:34 GMT -6
But who better to talk about the buffoon with then the likes of us? I agree. But you were on the old boards as well. And I’m sure you’ve read literally hundreds of posts from me from as far back as 2011 calling for this guys head. I can’t think of anything else to point out or complain about with this idiot lol. Maybe time to start complaining about Rocky and why he continues to enable this clown? Hey rat..... I'm not saying I was SB's biggest supporter but you,Phill and T all know that I did take his side in debates with all of you but when things become obvious,only a complete fool would ignore them and I guess I'm more of an incomplete fool. I know I said this a few times but with the exception of D-Cat,where in the hell are the solid 2nd round,3rd round,4th round and 5th round picks that almost every other team relies on to make a difference? |
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 4, 2019 11:40:58 GMT -6
I agree. But you were on the old boards as well. And I’m sure you’ve read literally hundreds of posts from me from as far back as 2011 calling for this guys head. I can’t think of anything else to point out or complain about with this idiot lol. Maybe time to start complaining about Rocky and why he continues to enable this clown? Hey rat..... I'm not saying I was SB's biggest supporter but you,Phill and T all know that I did take his side in debates with all of you but when things become obvious,only a complete fool would ignore them and I guess I'm more of an incomplete fool. I know I said this a few times but with the exception of D-Cat,where in the hell are the solid 2nd round,3rd round,4th round and 5th round picks that almost every other team relies on to make a difference? I know SB is the bottom line, buck stops here guy, but since we know he's not the hi-IQ hockey guy does any of this fall also to some extent on the scouts? They are the one's that recommend players and then SB goes to see them play 1 or 2 games to decide. Seems like a good GM would want a top notch scouting staff. |
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Post by hsbob on Dec 4, 2019 12:22:13 GMT -6
Hey rat..... I'm not saying I was SB's biggest supporter but you,Phill and T all know that I did take his side in debates with all of you but when things become obvious,only a complete fool would ignore them and I guess I'm more of an incomplete fool. I know I said this a few times but with the exception of D-Cat,where in the hell are the solid 2nd round,3rd round,4th round and 5th round picks that almost every other team relies on to make a difference? I know SB is the bottom line, buck stops here guy, but since we know he's not the hi-IQ hockey guy does any of this fall also to some extent on the scouts? They are the one's that recommend players and then SB goes to see them play 1 or 2 games to decide. Seems like a good GM would want a top notch scouting staff. You'd think a good GM would know the difference between a top notch scout and a bad scout after a few years wouldn't you? |
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 4, 2019 12:47:01 GMT -6
I know SB is the bottom line, buck stops here guy, but since we know he's not the hi-IQ hockey guy does any of this fall also to some extent on the scouts? They are the one's that recommend players and then SB goes to see them play 1 or 2 games to decide. Seems like a good GM would want a top notch scouting staff. You'd think a good GM would know the difference between a top notch scout and a bad scout after a few years wouldn't you? Now we need research if these scouts are the same ones since the 00's years. |
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Post by rinkrat21 on Dec 4, 2019 14:31:07 GMT -6
I agree. But you were on the old boards as well. And I’m sure you’ve read literally hundreds of posts from me from as far back as 2011 calling for this guys head. I can’t think of anything else to point out or complain about with this idiot lol. Maybe time to start complaining about Rocky and why he continues to enable this clown? Hey rat..... I'm not saying I was SB's biggest supporter but you,Phill and T all know that I did take his side in debates with all of you but when things become obvious,only a complete fool would ignore them and I guess I'm more of an incomplete fool. I know I said this a few times but with the exception of D-Cat,where in the hell are the solid 2nd round,3rd round,4th round and 5th round picks that almost every other team relies on to make a difference? That is the scariest part of all. No depth whatsoever. Just look at what the Blues and Avs have been able to do with injuries to key players. It’s gonna be a long long time before this team is competitive again. And not only because of some of the contracts the team is saddled with for the next few years. But because there is very little talent coming through the pipeline. And when I mention contracts, I’m not only talking about the ones we have had for awhile. I’m also talking about the new ones this genius has brought in recently. Like Mattaa for over 4mil per. Or Smith for over 3mil per. Nobody is taking those off our hands anytime soon either. Bowman has gutted this franchise from the inside out and he started from just about the time he took the job. Winning the Cups was blinding people to what he was doing and how it was going to inevitably lead us to exactly where we are. |
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Post by rinkrat21 on Dec 4, 2019 14:35:15 GMT -6
I know SB is the bottom line, buck stops here guy, but since we know he's not the hi-IQ hockey guy does any of this fall also to some extent on the scouts? They are the one's that recommend players and then SB goes to see them play 1 or 2 games to decide. Seems like a good GM would want a top notch scouting staff. You'd think a good GM would know the difference between a top notch scout and a bad scout after a few years wouldn't you? You would think that, but our GM also can’t tell the difference between a good coach and a bad one either. Or between good players and bad ones. When it comes to hockey, I doubt he knows the difference between good and bad in most scenarios. He is a straight up buffoon. |
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Post by doogiew on Dec 4, 2019 17:12:07 GMT -6
I among the rest of you am pretty hard on this young coach. Reality is however he's doing as good of a job as Q would have. possibly better. Saad has made a bit of a comeback under Colliton. Kane is his ridiculous self.
He's sat a few players we didn't at the time maybe agree with, may I remind you all of the scandal when he sat Vermette and TT sat in the cup run of "15. Oh yes the mighty Q. So the team as a whole isn't catching onto Collitons systems. Again how long did it take for most under Q.
Any short comings past and present really kind of play out in one direction that being Bowman. He is the one in the end providing the product. No coach can be held responsible for anything more than their own indiscretions. So far I think Colliton needs to stay the course you don't win cups or go far in the playoffs without team defense. I look no further than a team like Toronto to prove my point and rest my case.
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Post by hsbob on Dec 4, 2019 18:19:38 GMT -6
I among the rest of you am pretty hard on this young coach. Reality is however he's doing as good of a job as Q would have. possibly better. Saad has made a bit of a comeback under Colliton. Kane is his ridiculous self. He's sat a few players we didn't at the time maybe agree with, may I remind you all of the scandal when he sat Vermette and TT sat in the cup run of "15. Oh yes the mighty Q. So the team as a whole isn't catching onto Collitons systems. Again how long did it take for most under Q. Any short comings past and present really kind of play out in one direction that being Bowman. He is the one in the end providing the product. No coach can be held responsible for anything more than their own indiscretions. So far I think Colliton needs to stay the course you don't win cups or go far in the playoffs without team defense. I look no further than a team like Toronto to prove my point and rest my case. The "scandal " of 2015 led to Q's third cup with the team......that's my kind of scandal my friend! Since the team went to the WCF in Q's 1st year and won the cup in his 2nd...…..I'd say it took no time at all Would Q have done better with this bunch...…..I don't know how to answer that but I doubt any coach does anything with the current roster. We can only speculate about a hypothetical but I do know Q only coached one turkey in his long,storied career and that was a turkey without a single NHL goaltender on the roster. I agree that the current state of the team isn't JC's fault and it wasn't Q's fault when he got dumped either. |
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Post by rinkrat21 on Dec 4, 2019 18:38:07 GMT -6
I among the rest of you am pretty hard on this young coach. Reality is however he's doing as good of a job as Q would have. possibly better. Saad has made a bit of a comeback under Colliton. Kane is his ridiculous self. He's sat a few players we didn't at the time maybe agree with, may I remind you all of the scandal when he sat Vermette and TT sat in the cup run of "15. Oh yes the mighty Q. So the team as a whole isn't catching onto Collitons systems. Again how long did it take for most under Q. Any short comings past and present really kind of play out in one direction that being Bowman. He is the one in the end providing the product. No coach can be held responsible for anything more than their own indiscretions. So far I think Colliton needs to stay the course you don't win cups or go far in the playoffs without team defense. I look no further than a team like Toronto to prove my point and rest my case. Toronto certainly doesn’t prove your point that JC is doing a better job with this club than Q would be doing. Actually nothing could prove that. And there is a strong possibility it isn’t even true. If you’re implying JC is as good of a coach or better than one of the all-time greatest coaches in NHL history, please pass me some of what you are smoking 😉 |
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Post by rinkrat21 on Dec 5, 2019 15:40:02 GMT -6
I’m hearing a lot of rumblings right now. It’s starting to sound like Colliton may be let go. It is starting to sound like Stan may stay. My best guess right now is that Stan and McD are very tight, and it will take McD to retire to get rid of the Bowman’s. I did read an interview with McCub last season and he said he definitely won’t be working when he’s 70. He’s 66 now. Hopefully on his 67th bday next May he’ll retire and Stan will be gone too. Anyways, it’s really starting to sound like Colliton will be gone by Yanksgiving if he doesn’t turn it around. The only way I see this happening is if he lets the run and gun!!! Ok this was posted by you a month ago T. And things are worse now. Why does JC still have a job? ?? 😂 |
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Post by doogiew on Dec 5, 2019 15:59:20 GMT -6
I among the rest of you am pretty hard on this young coach. Reality is however he's doing as good of a job as Q would have. possibly better. Saad has made a bit of a comeback under Colliton. Kane is his ridiculous self. He's sat a few players we didn't at the time maybe agree with, may I remind you all of the scandal when he sat Vermette and TT sat in the cup run of "15. Oh yes the mighty Q. So the team as a whole isn't catching onto Collitons systems. Again how long did it take for most under Q. Any short comings past and present really kind of play out in one direction that being Bowman. He is the one in the end providing the product. No coach can be held responsible for anything more than their own indiscretions. So far I think Colliton needs to stay the course you don't win cups or go far in the playoffs without team defense. I look no further than a team like Toronto to prove my point and rest my case. Actually nothing could prove that. And there is a strong possibility it isn’t even true. If you’re implying JC is as good of a coach or better than one of the all-time greatest coaches in NHL history, please pass me some of what you are smoking 😉 I guess you missed the point, for as that paragraph was dealing with team defense. The point I was making about Toronto never mentioned Q it was a different paragraph. Do try to keep up. Remember puff puff pass |
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Post by rinkrat21 on Dec 5, 2019 17:43:28 GMT -6
Toronto certainly doesn’t prove your point that JC is doing a better job with this club than Q would be doing. Actually nothing could prove that. And there is a strong possibility it isn’t even true. If you’re implying JC is as good of a coach or better than one of the all-time greatest coaches in NHL history, please pass me some of what you are smoking 😉 I guess you missed the point, for as that paragraph was dealing with team defense. The point I was making about Toronto never mentioned Q it was a different paragraph. Do try to keep up. Remember puff puff pass Fair enough. But the whole “JC is doing as good of a job as Q would have if not better” definitely warrants you passing along whatever it is you are smoking 😂 If you wanna credit JC with Saad’s “comeback”, who gets the credit for Dcat’s regression? Crawford? It doesn’t take a genius - leave Strome-DCat-Kane as a line and NEVER break them up. And make your “im smarter than everyone else in the room” lineup changes elsewhere 🙄 |
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Post by BigT on Dec 6, 2019 12:05:18 GMT -6
I’m hearing a lot of rumblings right now. It’s starting to sound like Colliton may be let go. It is starting to sound like Stan may stay. My best guess right now is that Stan and McD are very tight, and it will take McD to retire to get rid of the Bowman’s. I did read an interview with McCub last season and he said he definitely won’t be working when he’s 70. He’s 66 now. Hopefully on his 67th bday next May he’ll retire and Stan will be gone too. Anyways, it’s really starting to sound like Colliton will be gone by Yanksgiving if he doesn’t turn it around. The only way I see this happening is if he lets the run and gun!!! Ok this was posted by you a month ago T. And things are worse now. Why does JC still have a job? ?? 😂I honestly think the Crawford situation has bought JC the year. He was the contingency plan and now they don’t have one. I think Brookbank would be a good choice but he’s still very raw in the coaching fraternity. This way, the Hawks can let both go at seasons end. I think it could have been earlier if not for MC to be on leave, and now you just can’t give him the reigns even if he’s not let go!!! |
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 6, 2019 12:58:01 GMT -6
Ok this was posted by you a month ago T. And things are worse now. Why does JC still have a job? ?? 😂I honestly think the Crawford situation has bought JC the year. He was the contingency plan and now they don’t have one. I think Brookbank would be a good choice but he’s still very raw in the coaching fraternity. This way, the Hawks can let both go at seasons end. I think it could have been earlier if not for MC to be on leave, and now you just can’t give him the reigns even if he’s not let go!!! Imagine IF the Hawks had let go of JC and replaced him with Crawford, then within a month they have to fire Crawford. They would have looked real stupid and even more incompetent then they already are. |
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Post by BigT on Dec 6, 2019 14:05:49 GMT -6
I honestly think the Crawford situation has bought JC the year. He was the contingency plan and now they don’t have one. I think Brookbank would be a good choice but he’s still very raw in the coaching fraternity. This way, the Hawks can let both go at seasons end. I think it could have been earlier if not for MC to be on leave, and now you just can’t give him the reigns even if he’s not let go!!! Imagine IF the Hawks had let go of JC and replaced him with Crawford, then within a month they have to fire Crawford. They would have looked real stupid and even more incompetent then they already are. You are absolutely right. I think the org literally saved themselves from certain disaster by not firing 2 guys who would’ve been fired elsewhere. So patience paid off here. I once heard that “If you’re not patient, you’ll become one”. But that still doesn’t change the fact that the org has two massive holes 🕳 🕳 that need to be jettisoned quite soon, they’re on borrowed time!!! |
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Post by LordKOTL on Dec 9, 2019 9:45:31 GMT -6
I kinda figured early on that JC would get the year...see also, "Stan gives his golden boys every opportunity to succeed even past their Use-by date."
I only hope that if the 'hawks don't do anything this year, Stan goes as well. He should--hell, he should've been gone after 2018.
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 9, 2019 10:08:43 GMT -6
I kinda figured early on that JC would get the year...see also, "Stan gives his golden boys every opportunity to succeed even past their Use-by date." I only hope that if the 'hawks don't do anything this year, Stan goes as well. He should--hell, he should've been gone after 2018. My question will be then who are they going to get to replace them? Another retread GM that had been fired several times before? Retread coaches? Look who's out there now, Babcock, Peters, Crawford the guy the Devils just fired. Maybe then Laviolette will be available soon if the Preds keep losing they will fire him. So when will the young new blood coaches get their chances? Maybe, no, definately JC was put in a no win situation by SB. A young coach that worked hard in Europe to be a coach and had success. Brought in to be the Icehogs coach and did a bang-up job there. Bringing a lousy team to the semi-finals in one year. But whatever the reason between SB and Q was, JC was caught in the middle. |
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Post by LordKOTL on Dec 9, 2019 11:10:00 GMT -6
I kinda figured early on that JC would get the year...see also, "Stan gives his golden boys every opportunity to succeed even past their Use-by date." I only hope that if the 'hawks don't do anything this year, Stan goes as well. He should--hell, he should've been gone after 2018. My question will be then who are they going to get to replace them? Another retread GM that had been fired several times before? Retread coaches? Look who's out there now, Babcock, Peters, Crawford the guy the Devils just fired. Maybe then Laviolette will be available soon if the Preds keep losing they will fire him. So when will the young new blood coaches get their chances? Maybe, no, definately JC was put in a no win situation by SB. A young coach that worked hard in Europe to be a coach and had success. Brought in to be the Icehogs coach and did a bang-up job there. Bringing a lousy team to the semi-finals in one year. But whatever the reason between SB and Q was, JC was caught in the middle. Doesn't really matter who they get--Hockey is an old-boys network and coaches/GM's are hired to be fired. But realistically a new GM with no ties to any of the Dynasty should make players feel like they're in the hot seat--if not for being moved but for being re-signed. Further, I think the reasoning of, "who do we get for GM over Stan--another retread?" is kinda flimsy. Stan hasn't been performing--and that's the same reason Q was fired. As for JC...who knows. Q was retained after Tallon was fired, so maybe he stays. But really, even if he was put in a crap situation here, he hasn't done much. Even if the core are being prima donnas and listening to him or giving his systems the good college try it's his job to get their heads and arses wired together (which is something a good Keenaning could fix). The 'hawks need the right GM and coach for where the team is right now. I'm not sure JC is it. I know Stan isn't it. |
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