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Post by hsbob on Dec 13, 2019 18:08:09 GMT -6
The teams driving force are older and unless you are getting younger you are not doing everything as well as you did in 2015 I know I can't. Even a great coach as Q could not slow down the aging process of his stars. True. Teams need to get younger as time goes by. So where is all the youth and depth who will be carrying this team moving forward and replacing the current aging stars? If we are supposed to be hanging our hats on Dach and Boqvist only, this is a sad state of affairs. And with all the injuries the team has, now would be the time for the next wave to be making their presence felt. Problem is, the next wave doesn’t exist. No Bueno. Guess you missed Sikura,Highmore and Wedin come up from Rockford and contribute...….missed em myself. Other than a few decent D prospects we got next to nothing! |
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Post by acesandeights on Dec 14, 2019 11:07:52 GMT -6
True. Teams need to get younger as time goes by. So where is all the youth and depth who will be carrying this team moving forward and replacing the current aging stars? If we are supposed to be hanging our hats on Dach and Boqvist only, this is a sad state of affairs. And with all the injuries the team has, now would be the time for the next wave to be making their presence felt. Problem is, the next wave doesn’t exist. No Bueno. Guess you missed Sikura,Highmore and Wedin come up from Rockford and contribute...….missed em myself. Other than a few decent D prospects we got next to nothing!It would be nice to be able to disagree with you and talk about some of the good, young F prospects that might be cracking the lineup in the near future but you're right about this; there just aren't any upper level F prospects in the system. The only young upper level F prospects we have are D'cat and Dach and their already on the team. The best young F prospect at Rockford is probably Kurashev but I don't really know if he is top 6 or bottom 6 material. Unless I'm missing someone, any other F prospects with some offensive potential are currently unsigned and still in juniors, Europe or college. The question becomes; How do we add some good young F prospects? Draftwise, the 1st rd. pick in 2020 is one way but the Hawks are minus their 2nd rd. pick. That leaves trades and FA's. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 14, 2019 11:31:50 GMT -6
Guess you missed Sikura,Highmore and Wedin come up from Rockford and contribute...….missed em myself. Other than a few decent D prospects we got next to nothing!It would be nice to be able to disagree with you and talk about some of the good, young F prospects that might be cracking the lineup in the near future but you're right about this; there just aren't any upper level F prospects in the system. The only young upper level F prospects we have are D'cat and Dach and their already on the team. The best young F prospect at Rockford is probably Kurashev but I don't really know if he is top 6 or bottom 6 material. Unless I'm missing someone, any other F prospects with some offensive potential are currently unsigned and still in juniors, Europe or college. The question becomes; How do we add some good young F prospects? Draftwise, the 1st rd. pick in 2020 is one way but the Hawks are minus their 2nd rd. pick. That leaves trades and FA's. Entwistle maybe? |
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Post by acesandeights on Dec 14, 2019 16:34:02 GMT -6
It would be nice to be able to disagree with you and talk about some of the good, young F prospects that might be cracking the lineup in the near future but you're right about this; there just aren't any upper level F prospects in the system. The only young upper level F prospects we have are D'cat and Dach and their already on the team. The best young F prospect at Rockford is probably Kurashev but I don't really know if he is top 6 or bottom 6 material. Unless I'm missing someone, any other F prospects with some offensive potential are currently unsigned and still in juniors, Europe or college. The question becomes; How do we add some good young F prospects? Draftwise, the 1st rd. pick in 2020 is one way but the Hawks are minus their 2nd rd. pick. That leaves trades and FA's. Entwistle maybe? I really wasn't forgetting Entwistle. I was thinking more along the lines of possible top 6 guys and I had thought Entwistle was more of a third line type. It would be nice if he develops though; he's got good size and I've read he's a good skater. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 14, 2019 16:45:19 GMT -6
I really wasn't forgetting Entwistle. I was thinking more along the lines of possible top 6 guys and I had thought Entwistle was more of a third line type. It would be nice if he develops though; he's got good size and I've read he's a good skater. Let's say in 5 years, Tazer hangs them up, then we got a logjam with Strom, Dach and Entwhistle. Or I'm sure by then there will be other choices drafted. |
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Post by Tater on Dec 15, 2019 4:14:47 GMT -6
I really wasn't forgetting Entwistle. I was thinking more along the lines of possible top 6 guys and I had thought Entwistle was more of a third line type. It would be nice if he develops though; he's got good size and I've read he's a good skater. Let's say in 5 years, Tazer hangs them up, then we got a logjam with Strom, Dach and Entwhistle. Or I'm sure by then there will be other choices drafted. Let's all hope.
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Post by doogiew on Dec 15, 2019 13:46:20 GMT -6
Maybe Stan's shooting for La Freniere or Byfield nothing else can explain the way this team plays.
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Post by tincup on Dec 15, 2019 14:32:28 GMT -6
Maybe Stan's shooting for La Freniere or Byfield nothing else can explain the way this team plays. As others have said it will be a deeper draft. The Hawks don’t have a second rounder. The team at this point looks likely to miss again and possibly miss big. They’ll need to be sellers and accumulate picks for next year. But if all the same eyes are overseeing it what could possibly change? Their draft record is spotty at best. |
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Post by tincup on Dec 15, 2019 14:45:13 GMT -6
Hey rat..... I'm not saying I was SB's biggest supporter but you,Phill and T all know that I did take his side in debates with all of you but when things become obvious,only a complete fool would ignore them and I guess I'm more of an incomplete fool. I know I said this a few times but with the exception of D-Cat,where in the hell are the solid 2nd round,3rd round,4th round and 5th round picks that almost every other team relies on to make a difference? I know SB is the bottom line, buck stops here guy, but since we know he's not the hi-IQ hockey guy does any of this fall also to some extent on the scouts? They are the one's that recommend players and then SB goes to see them play 1 or 2 games to decide. Seems like a good GM would want a top notch scouting staff. Which makes me wonder. After binge watching GoT’s again, I’m trying to guess who benefits if Bowman is let go? Who’s playing the Littlefinger part behind the scenes, doing the whispering? |
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Post by jimakablkhwks918 on Dec 16, 2019 8:04:15 GMT -6
Maybe Stan's shooting for La Freniere or Byfield nothing else can explain the way this team plays. So he can trade one of them away for another failed first round reclamation project? |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Dec 16, 2019 10:23:57 GMT -6
I know SB is the bottom line, buck stops here guy, but since we know he's not the hi-IQ hockey guy does any of this fall also to some extent on the scouts? They are the one's that recommend players and then SB goes to see them play 1 or 2 games to decide. Seems like a good GM would want a top notch scouting staff. Which makes me wonder. After binge watching GoT’s again, I’m trying to guess who benefits if Bowman is let go? Who’s playing the Littlefinger part behind the scenes, doing the whispering? Probably Mcdonut, he seems pretty sneeky and conniving. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 11:03:09 GMT -6
Maybe Stan's shooting for La Freniere or Byfield nothing else can explain the way this team plays. |
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Post by LordKOTL on Dec 17, 2019 9:10:32 GMT -6
The teams driving force are older and unless you are getting younger you are not doing everything as well as you did in 2015 I know I can't. Even a great coach as Q could not slow down the aging process of his stars. True. Teams need to get younger as time goes by. So where is all the youth and depth who will be carrying this team moving forward and replacing the current aging stars? If we are supposed to be hanging our hats on Dach and Boqvist only, this is a sad state of affairs. And with all the injuries the team has, now would be the time for the next wave to be making their presence felt. Problem is, the next wave doesn’t exist. No Bueno. That's been a pretty big issue as I've seen it: no succession plan--and that falls on Stan. None of our core guys would be able to play forever--especially at their peak performance. At some point someone has to take the role over and it seems like Stan's plan has been that the core needs to do the heavy lifting until they qualify for Medicare™. That's not a smart way to run it. The next wave could have existed...if Stan was focused more on a succession plan and less on trying to be the smartest man in the room and fighting with Q. |
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Post by BigT on Dec 17, 2019 19:47:43 GMT -6
True. Teams need to get younger as time goes by. So where is all the youth and depth who will be carrying this team moving forward and replacing the current aging stars? If we are supposed to be hanging our hats on Dach and Boqvist only, this is a sad state of affairs. And with all the injuries the team has, now would be the time for the next wave to be making their presence felt. Problem is, the next wave doesn’t exist. No Bueno. That's been a pretty big issue as I've seen it: no succession plan--and that falls on Stan. None of our core guys would be able to play forever--especially at their peak performance. At some point someone has to take the role over and it seems like Stan's plan has been that the core needs to do the heavy lifting until they qualify for Medicare™. That's not a smart way to run it. The next wave could have existed...if Stan was focused more on a succession plan and less on trying to be the smartest man in the room and fighting with Q. This is a great post/point. I know I’ve said the exact same thing 1000 times. There’s been no fore sight, at all. Just trying to survive today. Stan always tries to be the smartest idiot in the room. The only problem with that is for that to happen, he has to surround himself with yes men and nonsmart people. We need a lot of younger good kids. So far Dach has shown promise. Boqvist has really shown nothing so far. I know dmen take longer, but he hasn’t even done anything in the AHL. Yet he trades Joker for a handful of penny candies. Did Stan honestly thing he was getting Willie Nylander? Remember when the leaves thought they had signed Liles, but they signed Jeff Finger? I think Stan screws up big time here. With that said, Willie Nylander is apparently on the trade block. I’d take him, and waive Alex. I feel Willie could be had for not much, they need defense and cap relief. That’s a good move to get younger, faster and better!!! |
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 17, 2019 20:48:58 GMT -6
That's been a pretty big issue as I've seen it: no succession plan--and that falls on Stan. None of our core guys would be able to play forever--especially at their peak performance. At some point someone has to take the role over and it seems like Stan's plan has been that the core needs to do the heavy lifting until they qualify for Medicare™. That's not a smart way to run it. The next wave could have existed...if Stan was focused more on a succession plan and less on trying to be the smartest man in the room and fighting with Q. This is a great post/point. I know I’ve said the exact same thing 1000 times. There’s been no fore sight, at all. Just trying to survive today. Stan always tries to be the smartest idiot in the room. The only problem with that is for that to happen, he has to surround himself with yes men and nonsmart people. We need a lot of younger good kids. So far Dach has shown promise. Boqvist has really shown nothing so far. I know dmen take longer, but he hasn’t even done anything in the AHL. Yet he trades Joker for a handful of penny candies. Did Stan honestly thing he was getting Willie Nylander? Remember when the leaves thought they had signed Liles, but they signed Jeff Finger? I think Stan screws up big time here. With that said, Willie Nylander is apparently on the trade block. I’d take him, and waive Alex. I feel Willie could be had for not much, they need defense and cap relief. That’s a good move to get younger, faster and better!!! Where are the Hawks going to find 7 mill for Willie N.? |
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Post by BigT on Dec 18, 2019 7:32:00 GMT -6
This is a great post/point. I know I’ve said the exact same thing 1000 times. There’s been no fore sight, at all. Just trying to survive today. Stan always tries to be the smartest idiot in the room. The only problem with that is for that to happen, he has to surround himself with yes men and nonsmart people. We need a lot of younger good kids. So far Dach has shown promise. Boqvist has really shown nothing so far. I know dmen take longer, but he hasn’t even done anything in the AHL. Yet he trades Joker for a handful of penny candies. Did Stan honestly thing he was getting Willie Nylander? Remember when the leaves thought they had signed Liles, but they signed Jeff Finger? I think Stan screws up big time here. With that said, Willie Nylander is apparently on the trade block. I’d take him, and waive Alex. I feel Willie could be had for not much, they need defense and cap relief. That’s a good move to get younger, faster and better!!! Where are the Hawks going to find 7 mill for Willie N.? First things first. We’re gonna have to start moving out pieces that don’t work. Saad, Shaw, Maatta, Smith, Lehner(although he’s been great, he’s really only distorting the problem). This needs to be done ASAP. Yes we’ll take back a few contracts in the midst of all that, but we could easily free up the money. Calgary or Edmonton would love to have Lehner. Then we could trade Maatta and a 3rd rounder for Willie( if it even takes that much for a salary dump), trade Lehner to Calgary for Lucic a first rounder, 2nd rounder, (sounds dumb, but this is how you rebuild). Lucic already had a bit retained by the oil, he’s at 5.25, if we could get 500k retained, it’d only be 4.75 left for 2 years and during rebuilding that’s not that bad. This team needs to dump what they have and start over younger faster and more talented. Willie is one of those pieces. Let Dach, Entwhistle, Boqvist, Beaudin, Gilbert, and a few others try their hand at the nhl and see what we got. If the pressure is off to win, and theyre playing with house money, so they’ll make mistakes, but be able to perform better in a rebuilding environment!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Dec 18, 2019 7:48:24 GMT -6
Where are the Hawks going to find 7 mill for Willie N.? First things first. We’re gonna have to start moving out pieces that don’t work. Saad, Shaw, Maatta, Smith, Lehner(although he’s been great, he’s really only distorting the problem). This needs to be done ASAP. Yes we’ll take back a few contracts in the midst of all that, but we could easily free up the money. Calgary or Edmonton would love to have Lehner. Then we could trade Maatta and a 3rd rounder for Willie( if it even takes that much for a salary dump), trade Lehner to Calgary for Lucic a first rounder, 2nd rounder, (sounds dumb, but this is how you rebuild). Lucic already had a bit retained by the oil, he’s at 5.25, if we could get 500k retained, it’d only be 4.75 left for 2 years and during rebuilding that’s not that bad. This team needs to dump what they have and start over younger faster and more talented. Willie is one of those pieces. Let Dach, Entwhistle, Boqvist, Beaudin, Gilbert, and a few others try their hand at the nhl and see what we got. If the pressure is off to win, and theyre playing with house money, so they’ll make mistakes, but be able to perform better in a rebuilding environment!!! Are you rebuilding for next year or three years from now? If it's next year,we'll need a GT and a few D-men....ect…..ect.. If it's three years from now,trade everything for picks and Nylander will have to be happy with being on a tanking team. |
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Post by BigT on Dec 18, 2019 8:59:27 GMT -6
First things first. We’re gonna have to start moving out pieces that don’t work. Saad, Shaw, Maatta, Smith, Lehner(although he’s been great, he’s really only distorting the problem). This needs to be done ASAP. Yes we’ll take back a few contracts in the midst of all that, but we could easily free up the money. Calgary or Edmonton would love to have Lehner. Then we could trade Maatta and a 3rd rounder for Willie( if it even takes that much for a salary dump), trade Lehner to Calgary for Lucic a first rounder, 2nd rounder, (sounds dumb, but this is how you rebuild). Lucic already had a bit retained by the oil, he’s at 5.25, if we could get 500k retained, it’d only be 4.75 left for 2 years and during rebuilding that’s not that bad. This team needs to dump what they have and start over younger faster and more talented. Willie is one of those pieces. Let Dach, Entwhistle, Boqvist, Beaudin, Gilbert, and a few others try their hand at the nhl and see what we got. If the pressure is off to win, and theyre playing with house money, so they’ll make mistakes, but be able to perform better in a rebuilding environment!!! Are you rebuilding for next year or three years from now? If it's next year,we'll need a GT and a few D-men....ect…..ect.. If it's three years from now,trade everything for picks and Nylander will have to be happy with being on a tanking team. I’m building for the future my man. No more quick fixes..... at all. I think this year would be the last “tank” year and start actually building something special. Let’s say we get the 2nd overall for Fs sake. Quinton Byfield is huge and a great player. Check out his stats. I’ve seen him live and he score a wicked shorty vs my Spitfires, and the Spitfires are top ten in the country. Now, we would have Dach, Strome and Byfield as our three center we moving forward. That’s amazing, one of the 3 could be moved if not panning out. Toews contract will be up by the time any of the 2 we picked make a huge impact. Add in Dcat, Willie N, plus a couple other trades or picks, we’ll be awesome in a few years time. Like I said, if we can get a couple more first rounders, that speeds up the process too. I think we could get a late first rounder for Saad, maybe even another one for Shaw and my proposed trade of Lehner should get another one easily. We could have 4 first rounders. Didn’t another team that’s awesome in the central have 4 first rounders a year or two ago? Hmmmm Colorado comes to mind. They traded away their whole old guard in O’Reilly, Duchene, Barrie etc. Now we have the same chance to do this. 2 years of uncertainty, and one year to see who’s working or not. We already have 3 years of a 5 year plan under way, but Stan has screwed up a bit with trading Joker and his litany of other stupid moves. So we’ll need 3 total. But if we could get 5-6 first rounders over a two year stretch, we’d be set!!! www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=210630 |
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Post by squishy24 on Dec 18, 2019 11:15:47 GMT -6
if you look at both PIT and BOS "rebuilds" (without tanking). it took 7 & 6 years between Stanley cup appearances
PIT '09 '16
BOS '13 '19 (both losses)
Kings' last appearance is 2014, the rest have yet to come back (Wangs, Flyers, Canucks, Devils, Rangers etc).
so, 20-21 season (next year) would be a cup-appearance season? *optimist*
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Post by hsbob on Dec 18, 2019 17:21:41 GMT -6
Are you rebuilding for next year or three years from now? If it's next year,we'll need a GT and a few D-men....ect…..ect.. If it's three years from now,trade everything for picks and Nylander will have to be happy with being on a tanking team. I’m building for the future my man. No more quick fixes..... at all. I think this year would be the last “tank” year and start actually building something special. Let’s say we get the 2nd overall for Fs sake. Quinton Byfield is huge and a great player. Check out his stats. I’ve seen him live and he score a wicked shorty vs my Spitfires, and the Spitfires are top ten in the country. Now, we would have Dach, Strome and Byfield as our three center we moving forward. That’s amazing, one of the 3 could be moved if not panning out. Toews contract will be up by the time any of the 2 we picked make a huge impact. Add in Dcat, Willie N, plus a couple other trades or picks, we’ll be awesome in a few years time. Like I said, if we can get a couple more first rounders, that speeds up the process too. I think we could get a late first rounder for Saad, maybe even another one for Shaw and my proposed trade of Lehner should get another one easily. We could have 4 first rounders. Didn’t another team that’s awesome in the central have 4 first rounders a year or two ago? Hmmmm Colorado comes to mind. They traded away their whole old guard in O’Reilly, Duchene, Barrie etc. Now we have the same chance to do this. 2 years of uncertainty, and one year to see who’s working or not. We already have 3 years of a 5 year plan under way, but Stan has screwed up a bit with trading Joker and his litany of other stupid moves. So we’ll need 3 total. But if we could get 5-6 first rounders over a two year stretch, we’d be set!!! www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=210630Everything you say could come true and the ticket I have in my wallet could be a winner tonight too. You're counting on a bunch of picks not only making it but making it fast and being elite players......what are the odds on that? I'm not questioning your knowledge of the kids available in the next few drafts,just the over all percentages of so many picks working out. Shaw? He's damaged goods and SB is apparently the only fool who didn't know that...….I posted a link on the Hawk's boards to the Shaw situation a year ago last summer. The big D-man the Avs took was a can't miss too but I guess that'll be next year. Toews contract will be up in three years...….we'll need a "huge impact" at center to say the least. I'm good with moving any and all core players because they have no chance at winning anything here but figuring so many 'can't miss' kids are coming our or anyone else's way is pretty optimistic to say the least and who makes those drafts? |
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Post by rinkrat21 on Dec 18, 2019 18:03:14 GMT -6
if you look at both PIT and BOS "rebuilds" (without tanking). it took 7 & 6 years between Stanley cup appearances PIT '09 '16 BOS '13 '19 (both losses) Kings' last appearance is 2014, the rest have yet to come back (Wangs, Flyers, Canucks, Devils, Rangers etc). so, 20-21 season (next year) would be a cup-appearance season? *optimist* The really really impressive thing about PIT - they never failed to at least make the playoffs during the time in between Cups. To be able to rebuild to Cup Champion level and never miss the playoffs while doing it is stellar work by their front office. |
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Post by BigT on Dec 18, 2019 20:46:29 GMT -6
I’m building for the future my man. No more quick fixes..... at all. I think this year would be the last “tank” year and start actually building something special. Let’s say we get the 2nd overall for Fs sake. Quinton Byfield is huge and a great player. Check out his stats. I’ve seen him live and he score a wicked shorty vs my Spitfires, and the Spitfires are top ten in the country. Now, we would have Dach, Strome and Byfield as our three center we moving forward. That’s amazing, one of the 3 could be moved if not panning out. Toews contract will be up by the time any of the 2 we picked make a huge impact. Add in Dcat, Willie N, plus a couple other trades or picks, we’ll be awesome in a few years time. Like I said, if we can get a couple more first rounders, that speeds up the process too. I think we could get a late first rounder for Saad, maybe even another one for Shaw and my proposed trade of Lehner should get another one easily. We could have 4 first rounders. Didn’t another team that’s awesome in the central have 4 first rounders a year or two ago? Hmmmm Colorado comes to mind. They traded away their whole old guard in O’Reilly, Duchene, Barrie etc. Now we have the same chance to do this. 2 years of uncertainty, and one year to see who’s working or not. We already have 3 years of a 5 year plan under way, but Stan has screwed up a bit with trading Joker and his litany of other stupid moves. So we’ll need 3 total. But if we could get 5-6 first rounders over a two year stretch, we’d be set!!! www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=210630Everything you say could come true and the ticket I have in my wallet could be a winner tonight too. You're counting on a bunch of picks not only making it but making it fast and being elite players......what are the odds on that? I'm not questioning your knowledge of the kids available in the next few drafts,just the over all percentages of so many picks working out. Shaw? He's damaged goods and SB is apparently the only fool who didn't know that...….I posted a link on the Hawk's boards to the Shaw situation a year ago last summer. The big D-man the Avs took was a can't miss too but I guess that'll be next year. Toews contract will be up in three years...….we'll need a "huge impact" at center to say the least. I'm good with moving any and all core players because they have no chance at winning anything here but figuring so many 'can't miss' kids are coming our or anyone else's way is pretty optimistic to say the least and who makes those drafts? Well, if you don’t feel they’ll turn out, you trade the pick(s). Taking the most talented of kids is the way to go. More kids from the top 10 pan out more than any other spot in the draft. I’ll take my chances in the top 3-5. We need to get younger and better, the only way is the draft. We have to give up on hopes and prayers and stick to the same blueprint that got us the last decade. I highly highly recommend hiring Mark Hunter as the new GM. He’s away with team Canada WJ right now. He built the Leaves team up from nothing, and he obviously knows the kids at the jr level. He’s a genius with that. I feel he’s be perfect for a rebuild. He’s part owner of the London Knights and the GM there. He’s already said he’d love an NHL GM job!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Dec 19, 2019 3:02:24 GMT -6
Everything you say could come true and the ticket I have in my wallet could be a winner tonight too. You're counting on a bunch of picks not only making it but making it fast and being elite players......what are the odds on that? I'm not questioning your knowledge of the kids available in the next few drafts,just the over all percentages of so many picks working out. Shaw? He's damaged goods and SB is apparently the only fool who didn't know that...….I posted a link on the Hawk's boards to the Shaw situation a year ago last summer. The big D-man the Avs took was a can't miss too but I guess that'll be next year. Toews contract will be up in three years...….we'll need a "huge impact" at center to say the least. I'm good with moving any and all core players because they have no chance at winning anything here but figuring so many 'can't miss' kids are coming our or anyone else's way is pretty optimistic to say the least and who makes those drafts? Well, if you don’t feel they’ll turn out, you trade the pick(s). Taking the most talented of kids is the way to go. More kids from the top 10 pan out more than any other spot in the draft. I’ll take my chances in the top 3-5. We need to get younger and better, the only way is the draft. We have to give up on hopes and prayers and stick to the same blueprint that got us the last decade. I highly highly recommend hiring Mark Hunter as the new GM. He’s away with team Canada WJ right now. He built the Leaves team up from nothing, and he obviously knows the kids at the jr level. He’s a genius with that. I feel he’s be perfect for a rebuild. He’s part owner of the London Knights and the GM there. He’s already said he’d love an NHL GM job!!! I'd like this 10 times if I could. getting him as our GM would be a huge win for the 'hawks imo. |
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Post by doogiew on Dec 19, 2019 8:58:04 GMT -6
Well, if you don’t feel they’ll turn out, you trade the pick(s). Taking the most talented of kids is the way to go. More kids from the top 10 pan out more than any other spot in the draft. I’ll take my chances in the top 3-5. We need to get younger and better, the only way is the draft. We have to give up on hopes and prayers and stick to the same blueprint that got us the last decade. I highly highly recommend hiring Mark Hunter as the new GM. He’s away with team Canada WJ right now. He built the Leaves team up from nothing, and he obviously knows the kids at the jr level. He’s a genius with that. I feel he’s be perfect for a rebuild. He’s part owner of the London Knights and the GM there. He’s already said he’d love an NHL GM job!!! I'd like this 10 times if I could. getting him as our GM would be a huge win for the 'hawks imo. I'm with everyone on this. I couldn't believe the Leafs passed him up. Oh and Lehner will become a first round pik before the end of the season. |
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Post by vadarx on Dec 19, 2019 10:13:14 GMT -6
I'd like this 10 times if I could. getting him as our GM would be a huge win for the 'hawks imo. I'm with everyone on this. I couldn't believe the Leafs passed him up. Oh and Lehner will become a first round pik before the end of the season. if Saad keeps playing well, he may as well. it would be nice to snag a couple more first rounders next spring seeing as we have no second rounder. |
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Post by angoti on Dec 19, 2019 10:30:23 GMT -6
Well, if you don’t feel they’ll turn out, you trade the pick(s). Taking the most talented of kids is the way to go. More kids from the top 10 pan out more than any other spot in the draft. I’ll take my chances in the top 3-5. We need to get younger and better, the only way is the draft. We have to give up on hopes and prayers and stick to the same blueprint that got us the last decade. I highly highly recommend hiring Mark Hunter as the new GM. He’s away with team Canada WJ right now. He built the Leaves team up from nothing, and he obviously knows the kids at the jr level. He’s a genius with that. I feel he’s be perfect for a rebuild. He’s part owner of the London Knights and the GM there. He’s already said he’d love an NHL GM job!!! I'd like this 10 times if I could. getting him as our GM would be a huge win for the 'hawks imo. Yep.. I agreed with this last night during the Game.. give Hunter the chance, he obviously would had his eye on a lot of up coming good young talent. While Stan sits his ass in the Ivory tower guessing. This team needs management change now... and let them get started for next season.. |
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Post by doogiew on Dec 19, 2019 23:29:58 GMT -6
Maybe Stan's shooting for La Freniere or Byfield nothing else can explain the way this team plays. As others have said it will be a deeper draft. The Hawks don’t have a second rounder. The team at this point looks likely to miss again and possibly miss big. They’ll need to be sellers and accumulate picks for next year. But if all the same eyes are overseeing it what could possibly change? Their draft record is spotty at best. If you get Crawford to sign off both goalies could be rentals for a cup contender and unless Bowman F****s that up they should both demand 1st rounders.If they piss Seabs off and keep sitting him he and Maata will get second round picks a desperate team might give up more not likely, but teams give up too much at the deadline. Bowman will be a seller or should be in my mind. The Hawks golden era is over and no one other than Kane and Toews should be protected mostly because of their NMC's Bowman is a stupid SOB he's made his bed and should be made sleep in it. It's time to blow it up. After all he traded the majority of a cup contender to Arizona. So load up on as many first round picks this coming draft and hire some more "good" scouts. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2019 15:41:38 GMT -6
Stan's got money to play with now, and Ilya Kovalchuk is available. Time to swoop in and pick up the Chris Kunitz of the season Stan.....Don't let us down!
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Post by galaxytrash on Dec 26, 2019 16:56:25 GMT -6
Stan's got money to play with now, and Ilya Kovalchuk is available. Time to swoop in and pick up the Chris Kunitz of the season Stan.....Don't let us down!
kunitz came off a respectable 13 goal season the year prior and cost us a measly million. i guess we were a year late but it was worth a gamble at that price. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2019 17:26:44 GMT -6
Stan's got money to play with now, and Ilya Kovalchuk is available. Time to swoop in and pick up the Chris Kunitz of the season Stan.....Don't let us down!
kunitz came off a respectable 13 goal season the year prior and cost us a measly million. i guess we were a year late but it was worth a gamble at that price. Sorry, but I can't agree with either Ward or Kunitz signings, and the proof was in their contributions. And both were given NMC to boot. |
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