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Post by vadarx on May 23, 2024 14:19:03 GMT -6
lol, as soon as I saw this was at the top again, I knew it was because of the Powers mailbag.
certainly sounds like the folks making money heard the crowd on "Chelios night".
bringing 88 back brings money in. they might need it with more lawsuits to settle.
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Post by ebonyraptor on May 23, 2024 14:56:17 GMT -6
I think the likelihood of Kane coming back is very remote but Powers opened the door a crack so I'll say I'm not opposed to Kane coming back. Obviously contract term matters but if it's 3 years or less I'd be excited to watch Kane and Bedard play together - it won't be good for team defense but it will be fun to watch.
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Post by shooter61 on May 23, 2024 15:17:23 GMT -6
Not a soft rebuild, which Bowman was redoing. Yes, there is only one way to truly do it; and when it's truly needed, it should be done. Pittsburgh catered to their veterans and now they're fucked because they gave up all their draft capital, when they could have flipped those veterans. So the Montreal Canadiens approach from the 1950s-1990s is not a model to use....? Jean Beliveau, Henri Richard and Yvon Cournoyer pass the torch to Guy Lafleur, Serge Savard and Larry Robinson, who hand it to Patrick Roy (four cups, two teams), Claude Lemieux (four cups, three teams), Guy Carboneau (3 cups, two teams) and Vinny Damphouse ande among others. To my mind, the Canadiens lost their way after moving out their core Stanley Cup champions and starting one of these "proper rebuilds." The tradition (and the mystique) which had held the team above all others was squandered by a know-it-all management team during the 1990s. They should have kept their stars and built around them like they had for 50 plus years. Roy won two more cups in Colorado, and Lemieux was a winner wherever he ended up. Montreal, it should be noted, is still rebuilding. The Canadian's Approach, till 1970 was , sign all the Quebec players, which only they could do, like Toronto had all the rights to Ont players, so what you call a rebuild I say not fair, did you notice that all the players you mentioned are from Quebec, the only non Quebec player was big Larry they took him with their 3rd pick, the Canadians lost there way when they lost the rights to all Quebec born players,In 69, they got the first two picks in the draft, to make up for not getting rights to Quebec players, Damphouse was a Leaf draft pick not a toilet seat pick , To say the Canadians model is one to follow just look at their record since 1980, you might think it's great but not one I would want to follow |
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on May 23, 2024 15:30:46 GMT -6
I am dusting off my college mathematical logic textbook to figure out whether 'isn't impossible' is equivalent to 'is possible'. I think that would be awesome.
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Post by shooter61 on May 23, 2024 15:53:40 GMT -6
The "backward-baseball hat wearing welp" of a general manager has this theory that the Hall of Famers Kane and Toews would somehow stall or block the leadership development of the young kids. So even if Kane would like to come back (and I believe he would given that he has a home here), the present management team does not want him. Toews, is not playing hockey again , why blame KD for that ? or did KD cause his medical problem |
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Post by squishy24 on May 23, 2024 19:01:09 GMT -6
lol, as soon as I saw this was at the top again, I knew it was because of the Powers mailbag. certainly sounds like the folks making money heard the crowd on "Chelios night". bringing 88 back brings money in. they might need it with more lawsuits to settle. “Powers said the strong relationship between Kane and the Blackhawks organization remains intact and that Davidson “made sure Kane’s departure was as smooth as possible” when trading him to the Rangers last season. But if the organization does decide to bring him back, he’d likely end his career there, Powers said. If he intends on playing longer than the team thinks he’d be useful to their rebuild, Powers believes that will likely push Chicago away from re-signing him.” If this is accurate, all the BS opinion about KD and Kane (and Toews) having animosity and disrespect towards all the parties involve is just that, BS. |
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Post by BigT on May 24, 2024 1:05:53 GMT -6
I’ve also heard that the Hawks and Kane will keep an open dialogue into the summer. If Kane gets a better offer. Cool. But it’s starting to sound like the Hawks may bring back both for another year. Maybe 2. I don’t see more than two happening. I honestly feel this would be good to reconcile everything. I hope this happens and it wont disrupt the rebuild!!!
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Post by OldTimeHawky on May 24, 2024 1:27:48 GMT -6
I’ve also heard that the Hawks and Kane will keep an open dialogue into the summer. If Kane gets a better offer. Cool. But it’s starting to sound like the Hawks may bring back both for another year. Maybe 2. I don’t see more than two happening. I honestly feel this would be good to reconcile everything. I hope this happens and it wont disrupt the rebuild!!! Bring back both, you mean Toews as well? And it definitely won't disrupt the rebuild, especially with both not being here for a season, it's Bedards team now and they'll just be here for mentorship. |
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Post by Granada on May 24, 2024 8:00:16 GMT -6
lol, as soon as I saw this was at the top again, I knew it was because of the Powers mailbag. certainly sounds like the folks making money heard the crowd on "Chelios night". bringing 88 back brings money in. they might need it with more lawsuits to settle. “Powers said the strong relationship between Kane and the Blackhawks organization remains intact and that Davidson “made sure Kane’s departure was as smooth as possible” when trading him to the Rangers last season. But if the organization does decide to bring him back, he’d likely end his career there, Powers said. If he intends on playing longer than the team thinks he’d be useful to their rebuild, Powers believes that will likely push Chicago away from re-signing him.” If this is accurate, all the BS opinion about KD and Kane (and Toews) having animosity and disrespect towards all the parties involve is just that, BS. Right -- I don't know how it's news that the relationship is in tact because to me, it was never a question. Everybody knows that Davidson did right by Kane by trading him to the one and only destination (New York) the guy wanted to go to. So why would there be hard feelings in the first place? The team was and in some ways still is shit, and both parties knew it didn't make sense to strike a new deal. This wasn't "personal" on Davidson's part, no matter how some want to frame it. Honestly, this Powers thing sounds like a writer desperate to write about something during the team's off-season. Maybe I'm wrong, but what is he saying, exactly....."the Hawks are open to the possibility of a return." Okay, well sure, I'm sure all teams are open to a lot of things. There's no doubt the Hawks want to bring in some legit firepower this year; they'll be looking at all UFA's this off-season, including Kane. Again, this isn't news. If it makes sense for both parties, and there are no other better options out there, then it makes sense. |
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Post by 2old4this on May 24, 2024 8:06:43 GMT -6
I am dusting off my college mathematical logic textbook to figure out whether 'isn't impossible' is equivalent to 'is possible'. I think that would be awesome. No need. They are equivocal statements. |
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Post by vadarx on May 24, 2024 12:18:34 GMT -6
“Powers said the strong relationship between Kane and the Blackhawks organization remains intact and that Davidson “made sure Kane’s departure was as smooth as possible” when trading him to the Rangers last season. But if the organization does decide to bring him back, he’d likely end his career there, Powers said. If he intends on playing longer than the team thinks he’d be useful to their rebuild, Powers believes that will likely push Chicago away from re-signing him.” If this is accurate, all the BS opinion about KD and Kane (and Toews) having animosity and disrespect towards all the parties involve is just that, BS. Right -- I don't know how it's news that the relationship is in tact because to me, it was never a question. Everybody knows that Davidson did right by Kane by trading him to the one and only destination (New York) the guy wanted to go to. So why would there be hard feelings in the first place? The team was and in some ways still is shit, and both parties knew it didn't make sense to strike a new deal. This wasn't "personal" on Davidson's part, no matter how some want to frame it. Honestly, this Powers thing sounds like a writer desperate to write about something during the team's off-season. Maybe I'm wrong, but what is he saying, exactly....."the Hawks are open to the possibility of a return." Okay, well sure, I'm sure all teams are open to a lot of things. There's no doubt the Hawks want to bring in some legit firepower this year; they'll be looking at all UFA's this off-season, including Kane. Again, this isn't news. If it makes sense for both parties, and there are no other better options out there, then it makes sense. he was answering questions from Blackhawks fans. Kane being seen by KfC as a free agent option this summer is a question he has been asked a lot. it is being made into a big deal because he has previously been pretty firm about it being "no chance". now he is saying it is being considered. |
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Post by hsbob on May 30, 2024 9:09:18 GMT -6
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Post by Nikos on May 30, 2024 11:40:11 GMT -6
IMO watching hockey game in-person is the best fan experience of any professional sport and OT is another notch even higher. |
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Post by hsbob on Jun 8, 2024 8:26:07 GMT -6
lol, as soon as I saw this was at the top again, I knew it was because of the Powers mailbag. certainly sounds like the folks making money heard the crowd on "Chelios night". bringing 88 back brings money in. they might need it with more lawsuits to settle. “Powers said the strong relationship between Kane and the Blackhawks organization remains intact and that Davidson “made sure Kane’s departure was as smooth as possible” when trading him to the Rangers last season. But if the organization does decide to bring him back, he’d likely end his career there, Powers said. If he intends on playing longer than the team thinks he’d be useful to their rebuild, Powers believes that will likely push Chicago away from re-signing him.” If this is accurate, all the BS opinion about KD and Kane (and Toews) having animosity and disrespect towards all the parties involve is just that, BS. |
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Post by BigT on Jun 8, 2024 9:05:49 GMT -6
I heard on JayZs pod the other day that “The Blackhawks are listening to fans, Vosters wasn’t received well. So they made a change”. If this is true. 95% of the fans would love to see Kane back. Now, I get you can’t let the fans run the on ice product. But cmon. Bringing back Lane to break the record and show the kids how to win and how to prepare after a loss etc. Kane barely drinks during the season!!! |
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Post by guest on Jun 8, 2024 11:33:49 GMT -6
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Post by Granada on Jun 8, 2024 13:21:16 GMT -6
I'm not upset by this, to nobody's surprise I'm sure. It would have been nice to see him back, but I don't blame Davidson for wanting to move on and explore other options. At the end of the day, retreads never work. I'm glad we have a GM that is confident in his decisions and doesn't re-sign players he's jettisoned at the drop of a hat, like his predecessor. Even if Kane has a great year, he'd just be a band-aid. This team needs to focus on logical medium-to-long-term, top-six solutions. |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 8, 2024 13:33:51 GMT -6
lost in those comments by KfC is the possibility that they've already talked and Kane said "nah" and that he wants a shot to win it all again. yet here is KfC being the one who will take the shots for not bringing him back...
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 8, 2024 18:12:52 GMT -6
kane was almost a point/game player with the wings this season but he's still like a ferrari with one bald tire. it looks and drives good now but will it make it home?
i would've welcomed him back but never once thought he would return. i think he realizes he's got limited clicks on the clock left. he wants to go out on a playoff team. i reckon that's a no-brainer.
i still say he goes to carolina...or maybe back to the rangers.
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jun 8, 2024 21:14:12 GMT -6
lost in those comments by KfC is the possibility that they've already talked and Kane said "nah" and that he wants a shot to win it all again. yet here is KfC being the one who will take the shots for not bringing him back... If thats the case why not just be transparent? |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 8, 2024 21:19:25 GMT -6
lost in those comments by KfC is the possibility that they've already talked and Kane said "nah" and that he wants a shot to win it all again. yet here is KfC being the one who will take the shots for not bringing him back... If thats the case why not just be transparent? if KfC asked kane if he wanted back and kane actually said no, would you be that surprised if neither party went public about it? |
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Post by BigT on Jun 8, 2024 22:47:05 GMT -6
lost in those comments by KfC is the possibility that they've already talked and Kane said "nah" and that he wants a shot to win it all again. yet here is KfC being the one who will take the shots for not bringing him back... I do not know if anything recently has been discussed with regards to Kane’s return. I do know that when Kane signed in Detroit he had his presser at a hotel (I believe), and he clearly said that he was really hoping Chicago would have called. He thought that they would’ve at least reached out for n general. But they just stayed away. And I think that’s wrong. I think it would have been nice for Danny Wirtz or KD to reach out and at least see how he was doing. At least show him that he was a big piece for the Hawks and even if he moved on, they’re still grateful for what he did for them. I think it was classless to do that to him. But again. We don’t have the whole story. And I will retract my comments if I’m wrong. I just feel that Toews and Kane put the Hawks on the map. Made them a lot of money. A lot. I think they should treat them as the legends they are!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 8, 2024 23:06:56 GMT -6
lost in those comments by KfC is the possibility that they've already talked and Kane said "nah" and that he wants a shot to win it all again. yet here is KfC being the one who will take the shots for not bringing him back... I do not know if anything recently has been discussed with regards to Kane’s return. I do know that when Kane signed in Detroit he had his presser at a hotel (I believe), and he clearly said that he was really hoping Chicago would have called. He thought that they would’ve at least reached out for n general. But they just stayed away. And I think that’s wrong. I think it would have been nice for Danny Wirtz or KD to reach out and at least see how he was doing. At least show him that he was a big piece for the Hawks and even if he moved on, they’re still grateful for what he did for them. I think it was classless to do that to him. But again. We don’t have the whole story. And I will retract my comments if I’m wrong. I just feel that Toews and Kane put the Hawks on the map. Made them a lot of money. A lot. I think they should treat them as the legends they are!!! when they are officially done, they'll be treated as such, imo. |
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Post by BigT on Jun 8, 2024 23:21:55 GMT -6
I do not know if anything recently has been discussed with regards to Kane’s return. I do know that when Kane signed in Detroit he had his presser at a hotel (I believe), and he clearly said that he was really hoping Chicago would have called. He thought that they would’ve at least reached out for n general. But they just stayed away. And I think that’s wrong. I think it would have been nice for Danny Wirtz or KD to reach out and at least see how he was doing. At least show him that he was a big piece for the Hawks and even if he moved on, they’re still grateful for what he did for them. I think it was classless to do that to him. But again. We don’t have the whole story. And I will retract my comments if I’m wrong. I just feel that Toews and Kane put the Hawks on the map. Made them a lot of money. A lot. I think they should treat them as the legends they are!!! when they are officially done, they'll be treated as such, imo. I hope you’re right. I really do. They honestly deserve that and then some!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Jun 9, 2024 8:02:15 GMT -6
lost in those comments by KfC is the possibility that they've already talked and Kane said "nah" and that he wants a shot to win it all again. yet here is KfC being the one who will take the shots for not bringing him back... I do not know if anything recently has been discussed with regards to Kane’s return. I do know that when Kane signed in Detroit he had his presser at a hotel (I believe), and he clearly said that he was really hoping Chicago would have called. He thought that they would’ve at least reached out for n general. But they just stayed away. And I think that’s wrong. I think it would have been nice for Danny Wirtz or KD to reach out and at least see how he was doing. At least show him that he was a big piece for the Hawks and even if he moved on, they’re still grateful for what he did for them. I think it was classless to do that to him. But again. We don’t have the whole story. And I will retract my comments if I’m wrong. I just feel that Toews and Kane put the Hawks on the map. Made them a lot of money. A lot. I think they should treat them as the legends they are!!! All we have to go by are public statements,Jr seemed to relish going public with the announcement that neither Kane or JT would be offered contracts of any kind once Prince Daniel gave him the okay,and reiterated those intentions again.....publiclly. I don't like the Lil fuck but I believe him. It woulda been easy to take a shot at the Org and say something like "I want to play for a contender" when asked about a potential return in that presser,but he took no shots at the Org and never has. He did say "the phone never rang",I believe that Lil fuck too! Ownership/management was hoping Kane would just limp off into the sunset along with JT after his procedure but karma tunred out to be a real bitch. |
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Post by hsbob on Jun 9, 2024 8:12:04 GMT -6
kane was almost a point/game player with the wings this season but he's still like a ferrari with one bald tire. it looks and drives good now but will it make it home? i would've welcomed him back but never once thought he would return. i think he realizes he's got limited clicks on the clock left. he wants to go out on a playoff team. i reckon that's a no-brainer. i still say he goes to carolina...or maybe back to the rangers. There's no doubt that Kane's medical condition,recovery and return are uncharted territory, but wouldn't you say that tire looked a lot less flat than it did the prior 2-3 years? Kane got that flat tire and JT ruined his health resurrecting a decomposing corpse of a franchise.......don't let the door hit ya. |
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Post by hsbob on Jun 9, 2024 8:20:08 GMT -6
I'm not upset by this, to nobody's surprise I'm sure. It would have been nice to see him back, but I don't blame Davidson for wanting to move on and explore other options. At the end of the day, retreads never work. I'm glad we have a GM that is confident in his decisions and doesn't re-sign players he's jettisoned at the drop of a hat, like his predecessor. Even if Kane has a great year, he'd just be a band-aid. This team needs to focus on logical medium-to-long-term, top-six solutions. With Hall and AA both making healthy,triumphant returns next year,how much more top-six help would the team need? |
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Post by squishy24 on Jun 10, 2024 0:00:45 GMT -6
I do not know if anything recently has been discussed with regards to Kane’s return. I do know that when Kane signed in Detroit he had his presser at a hotel (I believe), and he clearly said that he was really hoping Chicago would have called. He thought that they would’ve at least reached out for n general. But they just stayed away. And I think that’s wrong. I think it would have been nice for Danny Wirtz or KD to reach out and at least see how he was doing. At least show him that he was a big piece for the Hawks and even if he moved on, they’re still grateful for what he did for them. I think it was classless to do that to him. But again. We don’t have the whole story. And I will retract my comments if I’m wrong. I just feel that Toews and Kane put the Hawks on the map. Made them a lot of money. A lot. I think they should treat them as the legends they are!!! All we have to go by are public statements,Jr seemed to relish going public with the announcement that neither Kane or JT would be offered contracts of any kind once Prince Daniel gave him the okay,and reiterated those intentions again.....publiclly. I don't like the Lil fuck but I believe him. It woulda been easy to take a shot at the Org and say something like "I want to play for a contender" when asked about a potential return in that presser,but he took no shots at the Org and never has. He did say "the phone never rang",I believe that Lil fuck too! Ownership/management was hoping Kane would just limp off into the sunset along with JT after his procedure but karma tunred out to be a real bitch. KT are Hawks legends and should be celebrated. But i can understand or IMO KD seems like hes tired of being asked about Kane. Hes been straight and honest almost every time its brought up too. How many times until the fandom finally embrace that this is no longer KT’s team? IF for some reason Toews decide to play again, id bet everyone is going to be asking the same thing theyre asking him about Kane |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 10, 2024 1:17:04 GMT -6
kane was almost a point/game player with the wings this season but he's still like a ferrari with one bald tire. it looks and drives good now but will it make it home? i would've welcomed him back but never once thought he would return. i think he realizes he's got limited clicks on the clock left. he wants to go out on a playoff team. i reckon that's a no-brainer. i still say he goes to carolina...or maybe back to the rangers. There's no doubt that Kane's medical condition,recovery and return are uncharted territory, but wouldn't you say that tire looked a lot less flat than it did the prior 2-3 years? Kane got that flat tire and JT ruined his health resurrecting a decomposing corpse of a franchise.......don't let the door hit ya. i was referring to kane post-op, not the 2-3 years prior. the bald tire comment was in reference to his hip. who knows if or when it's going to fail? perhaps it was a poor analogy but i meant no disrespect. As far as Jonny...he didn't ruin his health resurrecting the team, he just caught covid and imo, his chances of playing again are slim at best. |
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Post by Granada on Jun 10, 2024 6:51:37 GMT -6
I'm not upset by this, to nobody's surprise I'm sure. It would have been nice to see him back, but I don't blame Davidson for wanting to move on and explore other options. At the end of the day, retreads never work. I'm glad we have a GM that is confident in his decisions and doesn't re-sign players he's jettisoned at the drop of a hat, like his predecessor. Even if Kane has a great year, he'd just be a band-aid. This team needs to focus on logical medium-to-long-term, top-six solutions. With Hall and AA both making healthy,triumphant returns next year,how much more top-six help would the team need? I know you're being facetious but this year is much different than last year. This team needs long-term top-six help. Kane (and Toews) would just be like the guys you just mentioned (Hall and AA): short-term band-aids. There is no difference between either group as far as health and futures with this team go. |
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