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Post by hsbob on Nov 23, 2023 10:55:38 GMT -6
Gotta think too, the Hawks will be in year 3 with their 7th first rounder in that 3 years of drafting. Plus 7 2nd rounders etc. the cupboards are full, or will be. The time to add in some guys is this summer. Now, I don’t think the Hawks need Nylander per se. But if anyone watched the game tonight. The 2nd pp unit boasted Entwhistle, R Johnson, Donato. That’s not gonna cut it. Hawks need to find some secondary scoring. This team is looking worse and worse. I’m still not sold on Kurashev as a top 6. I think he’ll be a good 3rd line guy. There’s a litany of guys that will want a new home soon. I heard yesterday on JayZ’s pod that if the Leaves re-sign Nylander, more than likely Marner is out. Is he a guy you entertain? He’s a pass first winger to set up Bedard. But if going that expensive isn’t the option, Vancouver will have a litany of guys they cannot afford. Florida, LA, Rangers, NJ are all teams that will face some sort of cap crunching. So let’s hope KD parts with picks in 2025 and bolsters the lineup a bit this offseason. Then keep adding in kids as we go. One last thing about Marner. He probably won’t cost much to get him. Maybe their 2025 1st rounder and a player like Dickinso or one of the abundant LHD. And if it isn’t in the cards to keep him. He only has one year left. But I think he would take 10.5 heading into his next deal. It’ll take him to 35. He’s overpaid now. So 10.5 won’t be so bad. Especially if the cap rises the 8-10 million like their projecting. Having Marner-Bedard-Rychel Kurashev-Celebrini-Hall or something like that next year. I’m all for it. That would be much much better!!! I'd take Marner over Nylander myself,a year younger,a good two-way forward,a very good PK guy with 4 shorties last year,a 30/90 winger who can score AND pass as you said and he can step-in and take a draw too @46% for his career.
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Post by hsbob on Nov 23, 2023 11:17:10 GMT -6
How TF is Boston better after losing Bergeron,Krejci,Orlov,Hall,Foligno and Bertuzzi?
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Post by LordKOTL on Nov 23, 2023 12:07:09 GMT -6
Of course. I think if we are going to go for a trade-for-and-sign deal, it would help if the trade out took out some of our trash, you know? I just don't see anything close to 'trash' except the Jones contract,with a rising cap,I doubt even Murph would be hard to move.......retain 1M maybe. The cap-floor has to be reached somehow over the next two seasons,10 players signed next year and the team HAS to somehow spend another 31M just to reach that floor alone.......how would you do it? Four players signed the following year(Jones,Murph,Bedard and KK) with over SEVENTY FIVE MILLION in cap-space remaining. IMO,Reichell and Vlasic are sure to be re-signed and most likely both to reasonable bridge deals of around 6M combined.....maybe a bit less. that's what I mean. Murph, AA, they could be packaged with retention (if we can). It'd be nice if we could.
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Post by vadarx on Nov 23, 2023 12:07:20 GMT -6
How TF is Boston better after losing Bergeron,Krejci,Orlov,Hall,Foligno and Bertuzzi? good coaching and good system, me thinks. and two solid goaltenders. still think they are a regular season team, though.
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Post by steamer on Nov 23, 2023 21:33:33 GMT -6
How TF is Boston better after losing Bergeron,Krejci,Orlov,Hall,Foligno and Bertuzzi? good coaching and good system, me thinks. and two solid goaltenders. still think they are a regular season team, though. Agree particularly on the goaltending.
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Post by jacksalmon on Nov 23, 2023 22:25:51 GMT -6
Guess coaching wasn’t the problem in Edmonton. What is it then in your opinion? I sure don't know much about it. Wasn't this team in the Western Conference finals last year?
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Post by tincup on Nov 23, 2023 23:12:02 GMT -6
Guess coaching wasn’t the problem in Edmonton. What is it then in your opinion? I sure don't know much about it. Wasn't this team in the Western Conference finals last year? They’ve always bled goals and high scoring masked it. But right now they’re tighter than skin on a wiener, so worried about screwing up there’s no flow to their game. It’s like shooting a bad game of golf, when you finally realize it’s not your day you relax and the last few holes are better. They’ll have to hit that point to turn it around. We’ll see how many moves, good or bad, they make first. ….hoping it takes them awhile. I’m going to the game here on De. 12. Don’t need to see a blowout.
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Post by hsbob on Nov 24, 2023 8:32:11 GMT -6
I just don't see anything close to 'trash' except the Jones contract,with a rising cap,I doubt even Murph would be hard to move.......retain 1M maybe. The cap-floor has to be reached somehow over the next two seasons,10 players signed next year and the team HAS to somehow spend another 31M just to reach that floor alone.......how would you do it? Four players signed the following year(Jones,Murph,Bedard and KK) with over SEVENTY FIVE MILLION in cap-space remaining. IMO,Reichell and Vlasic are sure to be re-signed and most likely both to reasonable bridge deals of around 6M combined.....maybe a bit less. that's what I mean. Murph, AA, they could be packaged with retention (if we can). It'd be nice if we could. We both know the two players ain't worth 13.75M but that'd be eight players under contract next year and FORTY FIVE MILLION away from the cap-floor at that point.......how do you suggest the team reaches it? More over-paid worn out,warm bodies who might be flipped for something if healthy later or players who could actually improve the team?
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Post by hsbob on Nov 24, 2023 8:57:52 GMT -6
How TF is Boston better after losing Bergeron,Krejci,Orlov,Hall,Foligno and Bertuzzi? good coaching and good system, me thinks. and two solid goaltenders. still think they are a regular season team, though. One's 7-0-1 2.09/.933 and the other's 7-1-1 2.10/.932.......pick your poison. Swayman's 24 and he came in the 4th round but Boston signed Ulmark as an UFA @27 after Buffalo drafted,developed and then gave-up on him just when GT's hit. Some teams have an 'eye' for goaltneding and some wouldn't know one if he hit em in the nutsack with his paddle. LV has a 26yro 5-2-1 2.48/.920 and a 27yro 9-2-1 1.97/.932,one was signed as an undrafted FA and the other came in trade for a 4th! I know all four GT's play behind very solid defenses but both teams possess quite the asset when you consider the number of teams in need of goaltending. None of the four are over 30 and none of them make over 5M! Losing Bergeron and Krejci for most of the Fla series last year hurt Boston a lot.
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Post by hsbob on Nov 24, 2023 9:15:53 GMT -6
I dunno what Carberry has goin' on in Washington but the Caps had given-up only nine goals in six games going into Wednesday night's game against the Sabres and they're 3rd in the league in GA's. AND with Ovi really showing his age.....he looked gassed at the end of that one. Bakstrom's out and I guess Kuznetsov either sprained his 'taint' or he's disgruntled again playing for another demanding HC BUT this guys coming in real handy for em....... www.nhl.com/capitals/news/strome-caps-stretch-streak-to-five
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Post by LordKOTL on Nov 24, 2023 13:16:02 GMT -6
that's what I mean. Murph, AA, they could be packaged with retention (if we can). It'd be nice if we could. We both know the two players ain't worth 13.75M but that'd be eight players under contract next year and FORTY FIVE MILLION away from the cap-floor at that point.......how do you suggest the team reaches it? More over-paid worn out,warm bodies who might be flipped for something if healthy later or players who could actually improve the team? That would be how I'd do it, unless someone that could be a potential core fill in falls into our laps. Then of course they get priority. It should be obvious that guys like AA or Murphy shouldn't be in the future plans. Okay. We don't want to downgrade, but if we can get someone who is at worst a lateral move skill-wise for lover duration, it should be considered. If not, stand part of course. But if we'd be flipping out a 1st rounder, I'm sure we can find someone to bite on someone like AA or Murph.
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Post by BigT on Nov 24, 2023 21:10:47 GMT -6
I dunno what Carberry has goin' on in Washington but the Caps had given-up only nine goals in six games going into Wednesday night's game against the Sabres and they're 3rd in the league in GA's. AND with Ovi really showing his age.....he looked gassed at the end of that one. Bakstrom's out and I guess Kuznetsov either sprained his 'taint' or he's disgruntled again playing for another demanding HC BUT this guys coming in real handy for em....... www.nhl.com/capitals/news/strome-caps-stretch-streak-to-fiveAhhhh, ya spoke to soon. The lowly Oil products shut em out. Who would a thought that Skinnerrrrrrrrrr would muster up a shutout this season? I didn’t see it coming, especially on the road. But McJeesus with 4 assists is looking scary again!!!
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 25, 2023 0:01:17 GMT -6
raanta played the whole game and finished with a save percentage of .429%.
maybe carolina would be interested in bringing mrazek back at the deadline?
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Post by steamer on Nov 25, 2023 8:44:57 GMT -6
raanta played the whole game and finished with a save percentage of .429%. maybe carolina would be interested in bringing mrazek back at the deadline? If Soderblom continues to play like he did yesterday, the odds of dealing Mrazek certainly go up and the return as well.
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Post by vadarx on Nov 25, 2023 9:19:59 GMT -6
raanta played the whole game and finished with a save percentage of .429%. maybe carolina would be interested in bringing mrazek back at the deadline? that was insane. I can't believe Rod left him in like that.
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Post by steamer on Nov 25, 2023 9:20:07 GMT -6
Some interesting “upsets” of a few of the better teams on their own ice: Bruins, Devils, Stars, Panthers all lose.
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Post by hsbob on Nov 25, 2023 12:40:35 GMT -6
I dunno what Carberry has goin' on in Washington but the Caps had given-up only nine goals in six games going into Wednesday night's game against the Sabres and they're 3rd in the league in GA's. AND with Ovi really showing his age.....he looked gassed at the end of that one. Bakstrom's out and I guess Kuznetsov either sprained his 'taint' or he's disgruntled again playing for another demanding HC BUT this guys coming in real handy for em....... www.nhl.com/capitals/news/strome-caps-stretch-streak-to-fiveAhhhh, ya spoke to soon. The lowly Oil products shut em out. Who would a thought that Skinnerrrrrrrrrr would muster up a shutout this season? I didn’t see it coming, especially on the road. But McJeesus with 4 assists is looking scary again!!! I was the 'kiss of death' my friend!LOL!!! I haven't mentioned the Caps all year until yesterday and I thought I was safe seeing they were on a 5gm win streak with a SO of LV and 13 of their last 14pts taken and at home against the sinking ship from Edmonton...........THAY'S HOCKEY BABAY!!!! Oshie getting helped-off early in the 2nd might have shaken the team or just a Yanksgiving hang-over I dunno but Ovi's looking old dude!
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Post by hsbob on Nov 25, 2023 13:30:38 GMT -6
We both know the two players ain't worth 13.75M but that'd be eight players under contract next year and FORTY FIVE MILLION away from the cap-floor at that point.......how do you suggest the team reaches it? More over-paid worn out,warm bodies who might be flipped for something if healthy later or players who could actually improve the team? That would be how I'd do it, unless someone that could be a potential core fill in falls into our laps. Then of course they get priority. It should be obvious that guys like AA or Murphy shouldn't be in the future plans. Okay. We don't want to downgrade, but if we can get someone who is at worst a lateral move skill-wise for lover duration, it should be considered. If not, stand part of course. But if we'd be flipping out a 1st rounder, I'm sure we can find someone to bite on someone like AA or Murph. More of the over-paid,worn out, old bodies who have little ability to improve the team? Continue to be uncompetitive and flip everything for even more picks past this year? I don't get the 'badder for longer' approach and I don't think it's necessary for a successful rebuild either. The team could start becoming more competitive after next summer's draft w/o mortgaging the future one bit. If they hang onto their FIVE picks in the first two rounds alone next summer,the system will be bursting at the seams with many same age players at that point and with two more big hauls due the next two drafts as well. I just consider a competitive team a better environment for young players to join than a bottom-feeder. AA has one left,he is NOT in the future plans and his contract next year offers no interference to the rebuild whatsoever with the MOUNTAIN of cap space.......shit signing none the less it appears. Murph will have three left after this one and I could see retaining 2M at most to move him.........no way a 1st as a sweetener will be included or necessary to move either IMO. Move these players and the team will be lightyears away from the cap-floor. Continue to surround the handful of good,young players with only uncompetitive 'warm-bodies' and prospects when they're ready unless a good,young player falls into our laps? You have to pursue them my friend! Flip everything of value over 25 at how many more TDL's? The great fortune of winning the Connor Bedard sweepstakes comes with certain responsibilities for the Org as far as I'm concerned,this kid just doesn't belong on a perineal bottom-feeder and might tire of it like Eichel did.
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Post by BigT on Nov 25, 2023 13:35:07 GMT -6
Ahhhh, ya spoke to soon. The lowly Oil products shut em out. Who would a thought that Skinnerrrrrrrrrr would muster up a shutout this season? I didn’t see it coming, especially on the road. But McJeesus with 4 assists is looking scary again!!! I was the 'kiss of death' my friend!LOL!!! I haven't mentioned the Caps all year until yesterday and I thought I was safe seeing they were on a 5gm win streak with a SO of LV and 13 of their last 14pts taken and at home against the sinking ship from Edmonton...........THAY'S HOCKEY BABAY!!!! Oshie getting helped-off early in the 2nd might have shaken the team or just a Yanksgiving hang-over I dunno but Ovi's looking old dude! I know I’m not known as the friendliest to the Ruskies. But father time is still undefeated. I just don’t think OV has 3 more 3 goal seasons in him. And I just don’t see a 40 goal season in him. And he’s not gonna get younger next year. I see 15 goals a year in his future. TOPS. I’m not rooting against him. I just have never seen a path for him to break Gretzky’s record. Even if he scratched out 25-30 this year. I dont see him getting the last 50+ over the next 2-3 years. I think he’ll retire if things keep going this way. He has always maintained that his last season he’d love to play in Russia to end it off: I think that last season is coming sooner than later!!!
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Post by steamer on Nov 25, 2023 18:24:02 GMT -6
Bruins’ Ullmark gave up 7 to the Rangers today after Swayman gave up 4 yesterday. Ian Mitchell played 17 minutes in each so he’s getting some decent ice time.
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 25, 2023 21:57:02 GMT -6
no call on the play.
holy shit, trouba's phone had better be ringing tomorrow.
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Post by tincup on Nov 25, 2023 22:02:29 GMT -6
no call on the play. holy shit, trouba's phone had better be ringing tomorrow. Different view. Still worthy of a good suspension. How does that go uncalled.
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 25, 2023 22:18:15 GMT -6
no call on the play. holy shit, trouba's phone had better be ringing tomorrow. Should be a season. How do you explain that away? wow. trouba will think twice about doing that again. unreal. it was swift, but it sure as hell wasn't justice.
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Post by tincup on Nov 25, 2023 22:22:05 GMT -6
Should be a season. How do you explain that away? wow. trouba will think twice about doing that again. unreal. it was swift, but it sure as hell wasn't justice. I amended my thoughts after adding the other view above. Still bad and no mistake.
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 25, 2023 22:26:26 GMT -6
wow. trouba will think twice about doing that again. unreal. it was swift, but it sure as hell wasn't justice. I amended my thoughts after adding the other view above. Still bad and no mistake. pretty amazing how a different view puts a whole new shade on it. thanks for putting that up. okay...maybe a 5k fine isn't that far out of line.
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Post by tincup on Nov 25, 2023 22:48:13 GMT -6
I amended my thoughts after adding the other view above. Still bad and no mistake. pretty amazing how a different view puts a whole new shade on it. thanks for putting that up. okay...maybe a 5k fine isn't that far out of line. Still think these fines are a joke. Wonder what the fines are in the AHL where the players make a pittance compared to the average NHL salary. Fifty bucks?
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 26, 2023 5:28:50 GMT -6
I amended my thoughts after adding the other view above. Still bad and no mistake. pretty amazing how a different view puts a whole new shade on it. thanks for putting that up. okay...maybe a 5k fine isn't that far out of line. Doesn't matter if he hit the helmet, he swung at another players head with the ref 5' away. The league truly is a joke at protecting players, they seem to protect dirty players though.
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Post by steamer on Nov 26, 2023 9:14:30 GMT -6
pretty amazing how a different view puts a whole new shade on it. thanks for putting that up. okay...maybe a 5k fine isn't that far out of line. Doesn't matter if he hit the helmet, he swung at another players head with the ref 5' away. The league truly is a joke at protecting players, they seem to protect dirty players though. Yeah ever since he knocked out JuJar with his “clean” blindside hit, I’ve been ready for the league to clamp down on him. If this stick swinging had landed, I sure hope he’d be gone for 20 games or longer. What an a-hole.
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Post by mikeveisor on Nov 26, 2023 9:44:05 GMT -6
Doesn't matter if he hit the helmet, he swung at another players head with the ref 5' away. The league truly is a joke at protecting players, they seem to protect dirty players though. Yeah ever since he knocked out JuJar with his “clean” blindside hit, I’ve been ready for the league to clamp down on him. If this stick swinging had landed, I sure hope he’d be gone for 20 games or longer. What an a-hole. A much less talented Scott Stevens wannabe is going to become this generation’s Todd Bertuzzi with a criminal on ice attack if the league does not seriously address this. JMO.
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Post by steamer on Nov 28, 2023 7:29:49 GMT -6
Wild fires their coach Evason. That team sure has headed in the wrong direction this season.
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