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Post by galaxytrash on Aug 19, 2024 0:37:21 GMT -6
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Post by galaxytrash on Aug 19, 2024 3:06:24 GMT -6
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Post by jaty84 on Aug 19, 2024 3:45:48 GMT -6
Apparently not all the GM's are pissed with SB. Looks like San Jose is getting the new "Arizona" for the foreseeable future to get rid of unwanted players.
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Post by vadarx on Aug 19, 2024 6:59:08 GMT -6
he knew they had to trade him. pretty much was expected.
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Post by hsbob on Aug 19, 2024 8:15:58 GMT -6
Many don’t realize what he did in Chicago was tax the hell out of his core group. I really believe with better management, the Hawks could’ve had 2 more cups. Easily. But Scambo was worried about being the smartest guy in the room. He was awful at best. He had maybe 2-3 moves that actually worked. Oduya was the best he ever did. I even think without Vermette, Hawks still win. And maybe easier. I thought Vermette was on his last skate blade and could barely do much. Anyways. His moves will freak out the Oilers faithful real real quick!!! Gotta give the DUMBASS his due for the '14-15' team T. Richards was a solid summer signing,Vermette won 59% of his draws in the PO's and Handzus had a bigger impact than most of us expected. Draft picks Saad,Shaw and Krueger were all important pieces,and TT had a nice PO's for a 20yro too. I didn't mind bringing in Ladd at the '16' TDL,he was a certified badass and played pretty well, Fleischman and Weise were both old mopes who didn't fit at all. We also have to remember what a set-back Bickell's health issue was for the Org and that was nobody's fault. How TF the Hawks MD's couldn't diagnose Bickell's illness and put him on LTIR vs including TT s a sweetener in moving his contract will forever be a question for me........Carolina diagnosed it less than a month into his first season. It was all downhill for DUMBASS after that though,he figured the '17' team needed no help heading into the PO's.....he was wrong,he also let the team stew with three sub-par GT's after CC got concussed the next season,even though the team was in a PO spot at the time and a handful of journeymen were available. The next season saw Q's dismissal and the FO's decisions became more imbecilic every year afterward. The Saads,Shaws and Kruegers found in earlier drafts were no longer on the way either.......we got Boquvists,Beaudins and Mitchells instead. Drafted a D-man in the 1st round who saw 38gms @19 and became a solid NHL starter........traded that 1st round D-man @20 for a BUM! AND......is anyone surprised the dumb bastard didn't find a way to include Vlasic in S Jones deal or another trade.......seriously?
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Post by hsbob on Aug 19, 2024 8:35:33 GMT -6
Apparently not all the GM's are pissed with SB. Looks like San Jose is getting the new "Arizona" for the foreseeable future to get rid of unwanted players. Cody Ceci's a 30yro reliable,right-shot D-man with size for 3.25MX1 with no clauses for a 3rd rounder. The Oil were one win away from a cup with Ceci averaging over 20mins of PO TOI.
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Post by galaxytrash on Aug 19, 2024 9:23:03 GMT -6
There you go, vadar.
Edit: Just a random trade proposal that I thought wasn't too "out there".
I'd do it but I think the preds could do better.
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Post by squishy24 on Aug 19, 2024 10:18:09 GMT -6
Apparently not all the GM's are pissed with SB. Looks like San Jose is getting the new "Arizona" for the foreseeable future to get rid of unwanted players. Cody Ceci's a 30yro reliable,right-shot D-man with size for 3.25MX1 with no clauses for a 3rd rounder. The Oil were one win away from a cup with Ceci averaging over 20mins of PO TOI. Somebody has to be the scapegoat. I thought he was good during their PO run. Certainly wasnt the worst
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Post by BigT on Aug 19, 2024 10:18:47 GMT -6
So, anyone think the oil are keeping Broberg? Letting Ceci go might do that. I think they’ll let Halloway go. He replaced Halloway with Podkolzin. And will replace Ceci with Broberg.
Personally, I think Broberg will be very good. I’ve always liked his game. He has size and good skill. Skates very well. I’d keep him too!!!
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Post by squishy24 on Aug 19, 2024 10:21:13 GMT -6
There you go, vadar. Edit: Just a random trade proposal that I thought wasn't too "out there". I'd do it but I think the press could do better. Trotz isnt going to go for that. He was asking for a top5 pick the last two drafts. Hes been holding Askarov for at least two yrs. I doubt he budges. Askarov wants to be a starter or at least a 1b Trotz will probably let Askarov sit somewhere if he doesnt want to report in the AHL.
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Post by bigbarn27 on Aug 19, 2024 12:48:27 GMT -6
So, anyone think the oil are keeping Broberg? Letting Ceci go might do that. I think they’ll let Halloway go. He replaced Halloway with Podkolzin. And will replace Ceci with Broberg. Personally, I think Broberg will be very good. I’ve always liked his game. He has size and good skill. Skates very well. I’d keep him too!!! I really thought Broberg would be let go now I am unsure. Crazy that their best Dman is the 4th highest paid he has been a team player now Broberg gets to make a mil more than him. Should be fun to watch find out tomorrow.
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Post by vadarx on Aug 19, 2024 17:19:25 GMT -6
There you go, vadar. Edit: Just a random trade proposal that I thought wasn't too "out there". I'd do it but I think the preds could do better. omg, I would make that trade yesterday. come on, KfC, this is your time to shine.
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Post by vadarx on Aug 19, 2024 17:20:19 GMT -6
So, anyone think the oil are keeping Broberg? Letting Ceci go might do that. I think they’ll let Halloway go. He replaced Halloway with Podkolzin. And will replace Ceci with Broberg. Personally, I think Broberg will be very good. I’ve always liked his game. He has size and good skill. Skates very well. I’d keep him too!!! kinda seems like it now, tbh. I figured they'd do the opposite, mostly due to cap concerns.
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Post by galaxytrash on Aug 19, 2024 18:18:40 GMT -6
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Post by tincup on Aug 19, 2024 18:20:31 GMT -6
omg, I would make that trade yesterday. come on, KfC, this is your time to shine. Not saying he wouldn’t be an upgrade, although Commesso’s rookie season numbers on a worse team weren’t that far off, but where would he fit? He doesn’t want the AHL anymore, and Mrazek and Broissoit are both on two year deals.
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Post by Nikos on Aug 19, 2024 18:28:52 GMT -6
Pretty good deal for Columbus from a cap perspective with no money retained, clearly Laine did not want to play there. Talented player does he shake the laziness and being labeled as soft, time will tell.
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Post by Nikos on Aug 19, 2024 18:37:25 GMT -6
omg, I would make that trade yesterday. come on, KfC, this is your time to shine. Not saying he wouldn’t be an upgrade, although Commesso’s rookie season numbers on a worse team weren’t that far off, but where would he fit? He doesn’t want the AHL anymore, and Mrazek and Broissoit are both on two year deals. Yes that is why he wants to be moved, stuck now in Nashville with Saros signed long term and clearly looking for opportunity to start. As much as I would like KFC to go get him, just do not see the fit right now. Trotz will wait until someone overpays, he can hold out but he is under contract.
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Post by tincup on Aug 19, 2024 20:25:00 GMT -6
Not saying he wouldn’t be an upgrade, although Commesso’s rookie season numbers on a worse team weren’t that far off, but where would he fit? He doesn’t want the AHL anymore, and Mrazek and Broissoit are both on two year deals. Yes that is why he wants to be moved, stuck now in Nashville with Saros signed long term and clearly looking for opportunity to start. As much as I would like KFC to go get him, just do not see the fit right now. Trotz will wait until someone overpays, he can hold out but he is under contract. Edmonton would have been a great fit for him. Skinner has two years left on a low contract to prove he’s the guy to put them over the top, and Pickard has always been a tweener. Askarov could have slipped into the backup spot there and been ready if Skinner faltered as a #1. But with those offer sheets happening and the Oilers having just about zero in ‘25 draft picks there isn’t much capital left for making trades that would be worthwhile for Nashville to even consider making a deal.
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Post by hsbob on Aug 20, 2024 6:43:21 GMT -6
Yes that is why he wants to be moved, stuck now in Nashville with Saros signed long term and clearly looking for opportunity to start. As much as I would like KFC to go get him, just do not see the fit right now. Trotz will wait until someone overpays, he can hold out but he is under contract. Edmonton would have been a great fit for him. Skinner has two years left on a low contract to prove he’s the guy to put them over the top, and Pickard has always been a tweener. Askarov could have slipped into the backup spot there and been ready if Skinner faltered as a #1. But with those offer sheets happening and the Oilers having just about zero in ‘25 draft picks there isn’t much capital left for making trades that would be worthwhile for Nashville to even consider making a deal. At least the new draft format next year will save us the sight of that DUMB bastard sittin' at the Oil's table with a stupid 'shit eatin' grin on his face waiting for his first pick in the SIXTH round! www.nhl.com/oilers/team/hockey-operations
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Post by hsbob on Aug 20, 2024 7:04:50 GMT -6
So, anyone think the oil are keeping Broberg? Letting Ceci go might do that. I think they’ll let Halloway go. He replaced Halloway with Podkolzin. And will replace Ceci with Broberg. Personally, I think Broberg will be very good. I’ve always liked his game. He has size and good skill. Skates very well. I’d keep him too!!! Did you mis the Sportsnet article that GT posted? It claimed DUMBASS fended-off St Louis' offer-sheets with 'slick moves' and conducted a 'Master class'.......a F'ing 'MASTER CLASS'......LOFL! Their scenario puts E Kane on LTIR W/O any way of reactivating him W/O another big salary dump and I read somewhere that he intended to play after a procedure back in June. Can the young D-man acquired from SJ replace Ceci's 20+ minutes of reliable PO quality defense? Can the young Russian who had a decent rookie season before playing his way to the AHL,play his way back?
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Post by galaxytrash on Aug 20, 2024 7:17:37 GMT -6
i believe the deadline has come and gone.
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Post by hsbob on Aug 20, 2024 7:54:45 GMT -6
i believe the deadline has come and gone. Makes a guy wonder why in the hell they moved Ceci then,losing him and Broberg both depletes their D. Makes a guy wonder what in the hell happened to that 'Master class' too!
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Aug 20, 2024 8:52:44 GMT -6
i believe the deadline has come and gone. Makes a guy wonder why in the hell they moved Ceci then,losing him and Broberg both depletes their D. Makes a guy wonder what in the hell happened to that 'Master class' too! An Oiler fan said it's a smart move because they're saving over 7mill in cap space 🤦♂️
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Post by squishy24 on Aug 20, 2024 9:12:16 GMT -6
The Blues also sent unsigned 2023 fifth-round pick Paul Fischer and a 2028 third-round pick to the Oilers in exchange for future considerations. Apparently to convince SB not to match the offer sheets. If this is true, then there is really nothing “shrewd” to what Armstrong did
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Post by LordKOTL on Aug 20, 2024 9:15:17 GMT -6
Makes a guy wonder why in the hell they moved Ceci then,losing him and Broberg both depletes their D. Makes a guy wonder what in the hell happened to that 'Master class' too! An Oiler fan said it's a smart move because they're saving over 7mill in cap space 🤦♂️ You have to fill that space with quality. Stan might have been able to do that between 2013 and 2015 when TKKSHHC were all playing some of the best Blackhawks hockey we've seen. Outside of those 3 seasons his ability to fill the lineup with quality had been lacking.
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Post by squishy24 on Aug 20, 2024 9:21:47 GMT -6
An Oiler fan said it's a smart move because they're saving over 7mill in cap space 🤦♂️ You have to fill that space with quality. Stan might have been able to do that between 2013 and 2015 when TKKSHHC were all playing some of the best Blackhawks hockey we've seen. Outside of those 3 seasons his ability to fill the lineup with quality had been lacking. Thats probably why the Oils got him. Already have a loaded team ready to win the cup, just need someone who can fill in the holes, just like those 2013 and 2015 teams. If the Oil (or other teams) are rebulding, SB definitely not the guy
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Post by Nikos on Aug 20, 2024 9:32:13 GMT -6
i believe the deadline has come and gone. Makes a guy wonder why in the hell they moved Ceci then,losing him and Broberg both depletes their D. Makes a guy wonder what in the hell happened to that 'Master class' too! Did not take long for Bowman to once again say he is the smartest person in the room.
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Post by LordKOTL on Aug 20, 2024 16:33:11 GMT -6
You have to fill that space with quality. Stan might have been able to do that between 2013 and 2015 when TKKSHHC were all playing some of the best Blackhawks hockey we've seen. Outside of those 3 seasons his ability to fill the lineup with quality had been lacking. Thats probably why the Oils got him. Already have a loaded team ready to win the cup, just need someone who can fill in the holes, just like those 2013 and 2015 teams. If the Oil (or other teams) are rebulding, SB definitely not the guy The main difference I see is that Stan inherited the 2010 team and didn't make any moves that put that team over the top. He'll need to do that for the Oil--make a move that puts them over the top. I agree that Edmonton is likely thinking that Stan is the one to fill holes, but I don't think he's the ones to do it. Plus, I'd put money on the 2010, 2013 and 2015 'hawks beating the 2024 Oil in a series. I don't think Edmonton was as-deep as 2015, much less 2010 or 2013.
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Post by vadarx on Aug 20, 2024 16:45:44 GMT -6
omg, I would make that trade yesterday. come on, KfC, this is your time to shine. Not saying he wouldn’t be an upgrade, although Commesso’s rookie season numbers on a worse team weren’t that far off, but where would he fit? He doesn’t want the AHL anymore, and Mrazek and Broissoit are both on two year deals. you trade one of them. Askarov could be The Guy for a decade plus.
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Post by vadarx on Aug 20, 2024 16:47:18 GMT -6
i believe the deadline has come and gone. wow... can't believe they didn't match on Halloway.
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