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Post by Nikos on Aug 22, 2024 8:49:56 GMT -6
more than anything, the blows just offered him too much, they couldn't match that. they could've offered them sooner, but I guess they need to save every single penny for the next two summers? Draisaitl and Bouchard are going to cost here very soon and after next July 1, 97 is going to COST. That’s pretty much it. It sounds like 13.5 for Drai. I’m guessing Bouchard gets 8. So they’ll have to shed salary. I think trading EKane and trying to find a taker for Nurse would be optimal. Then they could afford a good team. Even if they have to pay a team a first rounder and retain 20% of Nurses deal. Then they should look to SJ. I’m sure they would take the bounty!!! I think you are right on Drai, pretty sure Bouchard will get more than $8M, but that is Bowman and Oilers problem.
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Post by vadarx on Aug 22, 2024 8:51:40 GMT -6
more than anything, the blows just offered him too much, they couldn't match that. they could've offered them sooner, but I guess they need to save every single penny for the next two summers? Draisaitl and Bouchard are going to cost here very soon and after next July 1, 97 is going to COST. That’s pretty much it. It sounds like 13.5 for Drai. I’m guessing Bouchard gets 8. So they’ll have to shed salary. I think trading EKane and trying to find a taker for Nurse would be optimal. Then they could afford a good team. Even if they have to pay a team a first rounder and retain 20% of Nurses deal. Then they should look to SJ. I’m sure they would take the bounty!!! I have no idea who they are going to find to take Nurse off of their hands, tbh. over 9 million per for 4 more years AND a NMC? it is almost like Bowman gave him a contract before he took over there, lol. E Kane also has a full NMC this season, so it will be interesting if they move him before next summer...
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Post by hsbob on Aug 22, 2024 9:34:00 GMT -6
That above article made it sound like both were willing to sign very reasonable deals and DUMBASS did get there almost a month ago. The large-framed 22yro center and even larger framed 23yro D-man haven't shown a lot yet but neither's gotten a lot of opportunity on a fairly loaded team.....81gms for Broberg in 3 years and a paltry 11:22 of average TOI for Holloway. The #8 OA D-man was a solid +8 in his 10 PO games and the #14 OA center won over 57% of his draws last year.......both should improve with bigger roles. The previous GM had all last season and until July 1st to sign them. His failure to do so pissed off both players and they eagerly signed the offer sheets. The chances are the offer sheets were signed before Stan was hired. We'll never know for sure but the guy did have a month to address it and I thought moving Ceci was done for that purpose. It might have been an organizational decision too,EDT has made their share of bad ones.
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Post by tincup on Aug 22, 2024 11:11:22 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Aug 22, 2024 11:13:17 GMT -6
was just coming to post this. already signed his ELC and is expected to see NHL action early on. not gonna lie, it is annoying to me that all it took was a first rounder a year younger than Rutger. seems like we should've been in on this, but mayhaps the Jets didn't want to send him to a division rival...
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Post by tincup on Aug 22, 2024 17:22:09 GMT -6
was just coming to post this. already signed his ELC and is expected to see NHL action early on. not gonna lie, it is annoying to me that all it took was a first rounder a year younger than Rutger. seems like we should've been in on this, but mayhaps the Jets didn't want to send him to a division rival... Translated, he just didn’t want to be in Winnipeg. Teams should pick that up in the interviews.
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Post by galaxytrash on Aug 22, 2024 18:09:42 GMT -6
was just coming to post this. already signed his ELC and is expected to see NHL action early on. not gonna lie, it is annoying to me that all it took was a first rounder a year younger than Rutger. seems like we should've been in on this, but mayhaps the Jets didn't want to send him to a division rival... Translated, he just didn’t want to be in Winnipeg. Teams should pick that up in the interviews. jets are likely better off now anyways.
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Post by tincup on Aug 22, 2024 19:55:34 GMT -6
Translated, he just didn’t want to be in Winnipeg. Teams should pick that up in the interviews. jets are likely better off now anyways. Got a prairie boy for a prairie city, and a centre to boot.
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Post by hsbob on Aug 23, 2024 10:18:10 GMT -6
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Post by hsbob on Aug 23, 2024 10:31:35 GMT -6
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Post by Nikos on Aug 23, 2024 14:54:09 GMT -6
I believe Askarov wants to be in NHL this season, minimum as a back-up. Not sure where he fit if Hawks traded for him based on how the current roster is constructed (Mrazek and Brossoit) signed. I feel pretty sure him coming here alone would be good enough for him to deal with leading the way in the Rock this season. dude will have a clear path to potentially being The Guy right at the beginning of the something around here and we have lots cap space. Askarov to Sharks (F_ck). I am sure we could have made similar deal, but Preds did not want to trade in division most likely. The Nashville Predators have traded the goaltender, center Nolan Burke and a third-round pick in 2025 to the San Jose Sharks in exchange for a 2025 first-round selection, center David Edstrom and goaltender Magnus Chrona. Edstrom was 1st round pick (32nd) for Vegas in 2023 and Chrona previously was at University of Denver goalie from 2019 to 2023 and played last year in both AHL and ECHL. While Burke going back to Sharks scored 50 goals for Sarnia Sting in 2022-2023 season and was not drafted, had recently signed an ELC with Pred Edit: The 2025 1sr round pick going back to Preds is Vegas Knights and top ten protected.
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Post by squishy24 on Aug 23, 2024 18:20:14 GMT -6
I feel pretty sure him coming here alone would be good enough for him to deal with leading the way in the Rock this season. dude will have a clear path to potentially being The Guy right at the beginning of the something around here and we have lots cap space. Askarov to Sharks (F_ck). I am sure we could have made similar deal, but Preds did not want to trade in division most likely. The Nashville Predators have traded the goaltender, center Nolan Burke and a third-round pick in 2025 to the San Jose Sharks in exchange for a 2025 first-round selection, center David Edstrom and goaltender Magnus Chrona. Edstrom was 1st round pick (32nd) for Vegas in 2023 and Chrona previously was at University of Denver goalie from 2019 to 2023 and played last year in both AHL and ECHL. While Burke going back to Sharks scored 50 goals for Sarnia Sting in 2022-2023 season and was not drafted, had recently signed an ELC with Pred Edit: The 2025 1sr round pick going back to Preds is Vegas Knights and top ten protected. Well i was wrong. That return was so underwhelming. I thought trotz would hold out for more
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Post by galaxytrash on Aug 23, 2024 18:52:28 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Aug 23, 2024 19:24:17 GMT -6
well that blows.
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Post by tincup on Aug 23, 2024 20:39:13 GMT -6
Sharks have accumulated a very impressive prospect pool.
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Post by bigbarn27 on Aug 23, 2024 22:20:10 GMT -6
Askarov to Sharks (F_ck). I am sure we could have made similar deal, but Preds did not want to trade in division most likely. The Nashville Predators have traded the goaltender, center Nolan Burke and a third-round pick in 2025 to the San Jose Sharks in exchange for a 2025 first-round selection, center David Edstrom and goaltender Magnus Chrona. Edstrom was 1st round pick (32nd) for Vegas in 2023 and Chrona previously was at University of Denver goalie from 2019 to 2023 and played last year in both AHL and ECHL. While Burke going back to Sharks scored 50 goals for Sarnia Sting in 2022-2023 season and was not drafted, had recently signed an ELC with Pred Edit: The 2025 1sr round pick going back to Preds is Vegas Knights and top ten protected. Well i was wrong. That return was so underwhelming. I thought trotz would hold out for more I thought he would get a lot more. Guess Trotz did not want to deal with this at camp.
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Post by hsbob on Aug 24, 2024 11:19:00 GMT -6
Well i was wrong. That return was so underwhelming. I thought trotz would hold out for more I thought he would get a lot more. Guess Trotz did not want to deal with this at camp. LV's 1st could easily be around 20th or even worse if Stone,Eichel and Pietrangelo all stay healthy,so the deal could come down to the quality of the two prospects they got in return.
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Post by vadarx on Aug 24, 2024 12:17:14 GMT -6
I thought he would get a lot more. Guess Trotz did not want to deal with this at camp. LV's 1st could easily be around 20th or even worse if Stone,Eichel and Pietrangelo all stay healthy,so the deal could come down to the quality of the two prospects they got in return. it is basically Hertl for Askarov for the Sharks.
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Post by hsbob on Aug 27, 2024 9:10:07 GMT -6
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Post by tincup on Aug 31, 2024 9:34:54 GMT -6
Is this the going price or an over payment. I like Jarvis a lot, great potential and these will be his best years, so far 231 games and 146 points. The league is going to get expensive.
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Post by vadarx on Aug 31, 2024 13:28:21 GMT -6
Is this the going price or an over payment. I like Jarvis a lot, great potential and these will be his best years, so far 231 games and 146 points. The league is going to get expensive. seems like a big overpay to me, and I also like him.
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Post by BigT on Aug 31, 2024 13:34:21 GMT -6
Jarvis will be getting 11% of the teams cap. He had 33 goals and 34 assists last season. I have no other comparable’s at the moment. But I’d have to think that’s a bit high. I’m could see 8 maybe 9% of the teams cap. But 11% is getting up there. I hope for their sake that these young kids are ready to lead the way. Cuz they lost a lot of good players from last year!!!
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Post by tincup on Aug 31, 2024 18:53:59 GMT -6
Jarvis will be getting 11% of the teams cap. He had 33 goals and 34 assists last season. I have no other comparable’s at the moment. But I’d have to think that’s a bit high. I’m could see 8 maybe 9% of the teams cap. But 11% is getting up there. I hope for their sake that these young kids are ready to lead the way. Cuz they lost a lot of good players from last year!!! Those numbers will impact Raymond’s contract talks with Detroit. Same draft, higher pick, slightly better numbers. Mercer is up as well, again with similar numbers. Stutzle is the best player from that draft and signed his 8 year deal last year, getting barely more than Jarvis.
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Post by vadarx on Aug 31, 2024 21:28:20 GMT -6
Jarvis will be getting 11% of the teams cap. He had 33 goals and 34 assists last season. I have no other comparable’s at the moment. But I’d have to think that’s a bit high. I’m could see 8 maybe 9% of the teams cap. But 11% is getting up there. I hope for their sake that these young kids are ready to lead the way. Cuz they lost a lot of good players from last year!!! Those numbers will impact Raymond’s contract talks with Detroit. Same draft, higher pick, slightly better numbers. I hope so.
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Post by galaxytrash on Sept 1, 2024 4:04:09 GMT -6
I would've thought he'd do better than a PTO. Anyways...I hope he sticks somewhere. A bit surprised the Bruins are the team giving him a go.
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Post by hsbob on Sept 1, 2024 9:01:34 GMT -6
Jarvis will be getting 11% of the teams cap. He had 33 goals and 34 assists last season. I have no other comparable’s at the moment. But I’d have to think that’s a bit high. I’m could see 8 maybe 9% of the teams cap. But 11% is getting up there. I hope for their sake that these young kids are ready to lead the way. Cuz they lost a lot of good players from last year!!! Those numbers will impact Raymond’s contract talks with Detroit. Same draft, higher pick, slightly better numbers. Mercer is up as well, again with similar numbers. Stutzle is the best player from that draft and signed his 8 year deal last year, getting barely more than Jarvis. Same age and the numbers are similar,7 more games for Raymond with a bit more offensive production,7 more goals,21 more assists. Mercer can play a little center but Raymond's a bit bigger and has been more consistant so far. I have to believe the quality of the team's both play for has something to do with the disparity between the two forward's +/- ratings. Raymond is a decent defender,putting-up a career best -12 last year but Mercer's career best +23 s impressive by any standard. 'Rod the Bod' does teach those young forwards their defensive assignments......I'll tell ya that! As we'll see with TT's return! The Canes were 3rd best in the league last year with a +63 goal diff. I don't know what in the hell's going on in Detroit but reports are the two sides are still far apart as far as the Raymond deal. I don't see how 7.9-8M doesn't get it done,that's more that D-Cat and a bit less than Larkin.........they're supposed to be close with Seider.
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Post by hsbob on Sept 1, 2024 10:00:21 GMT -6
I would've thought he'd do better than a PTO. Anyways...I hope he sticks somewhere. A bit surprised the Bruins are the team giving him a go. I think the speed of the game has become problematic for TJ and I'm not sure he has the frame for the checking role. Good role model though.
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Post by tincup on Sept 1, 2024 11:00:13 GMT -6
Those numbers will impact Raymond’s contract talks with Detroit. Same draft, higher pick, slightly better numbers. Mercer is up as well, again with similar numbers. Stutzle is the best player from that draft and signed his 8 year deal last year, getting barely more than Jarvis. Same age and the numbers are similar,7 more games for Raymond with a bit more offensive production,7 more goals,21 more assists. Mercer can play a little center but Raymond's a bit bigger and has been more consistant so far. I have to believe the quality of the team's both play for has something to do with the disparity between the two forward's +/- ratings. Raymond is a decent defender,putting-up a career best -12 last year but Mercer's career best +23 s impressive by any standard. 'Rod the Bod' does teach those young forwards their defensive assignments......I'll tell ya that! As we'll see with TT's return! The Canes were 3rd best in the league last year with a +63 goal diff. I don't know what in the hell's going on in Detroit but reports are the two sides are still far apart as far as the Raymond deal. I don't see how 7.9-8M doesn't get it done,that's more that D-Cat and a bit less than Larkin.........they're supposed to be close with Seider. Lafreniere is a bit of an outlier from that draft, just about the only one to take a short bridge that expires after next year. His numbers were pretty pedestrian until last year. A decent year if he can get close to a ppg should see him surpass those other contracts. Maybe the Hawks burning off first years on their top draft picks is a way of circumventing big raises so they can lowball those players on their second deals.
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Post by tincup on Sept 3, 2024 9:05:50 GMT -6
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Post by tincup on Sept 3, 2024 9:14:14 GMT -6
Getting Broberg looks better now…but I’m not sad for the Blues.
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