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Post by BigT on Jul 23, 2021 17:06:34 GMT -6
9.5 per for 7 years (supposedly). can't wait to read the complaining here about that contract in a few years when we are still trying to rebuild and his play has declined... I agree. I fully agree. Gawd damn I agree. FFS I F******* agree. Caulk sucker I agree!!! |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 23, 2021 17:08:41 GMT -6
9.5 per for 7 years (supposedly). can't wait to read the complaining here about that contract in a few years when we are still trying to rebuild and his play has declined... That's pretty high per year but he's only 26, so 33 when his contract is up. Those are prime years for dmen so hopefully he lives up to it. |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 23, 2021 17:10:51 GMT -6
I hope the reports are wrong. that is just a ridiculous amount to give up for a dman who has never even been a Norris finalist and has been trending down the last couple years....
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Post by vadarx on Jul 23, 2021 17:12:00 GMT -6
9.5 per for 7 years (supposedly). can't wait to read the complaining here about that contract in a few years when we are still trying to rebuild and his play has declined... That's pretty high per year but he's only 26, so 33 when his contract is up. Those are prime years for dmen so hopefully he lives up to it. it's for 8 years and he will be 27 before the season starts. but, yeah, his prime years I guess. I'd argue that the prime years in hockey now are more like 23-29. |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jul 23, 2021 17:15:10 GMT -6
Thats alot of money figured they could get for around 8. hearing we move down to 32 and jackets get Bo and 12.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 23, 2021 17:16:43 GMT -6
That's pretty high per year but he's only 26, so 33 when his contract is up. Those are prime years for dmen so hopefully he lives up to it. it's for 8 years and he will be 27 before the season starts. but, yeah, his prime years I guess. I'd argue that the prime years in hockey now are more like 23-29. True, he still has 1yr at 5.5, hopefully there's no full no movement clause but knowing Stan there probably is for at least 3-4yrs. For dmen it used to be mid 20's till early 30's, forwards were sooner and goalies later. |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jul 23, 2021 17:18:02 GMT -6
Its all part of the rebuild LOL
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Post by tincup on Jul 23, 2021 17:18:15 GMT -6
9.5 per for 8 years (supposedly). can't wait to read the complaining here about that contract in a few years when we are still trying to rebuild and his play has declined... Albatross contract. |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 23, 2021 17:24:14 GMT -6
9.5 per for 8 years (supposedly). can't wait to read the complaining here about that contract in a few years when we are still trying to rebuild and his play has declined... Albatross contract. yep. cue the COC. |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 23, 2021 17:24:53 GMT -6
Thats alot of money figured they could get for around 8. hearing we move down to 32 and jackets get Bo and 12. gross. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 23, 2021 17:27:25 GMT -6
Apparently it’s Boqvist, and they swapped picks, 12 for 32. But there’s more involved!!!
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Post by number9 on Jul 23, 2021 17:29:29 GMT -6
This is even worse than I was expecting from Bowman. You start getting a little bit of breathing room with the cap and then he does this. And since he is still signed for this year, why not wait and see what he can do for us before extending him. He won't need an nmc because no one in their right mind would trade for that contract. After being a loyal Hawks fan for 54 years, I'm coming very close to changing my allegiance to the Bruins right now. I'll come back when Bowman's gone.
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Post by tincup on Jul 23, 2021 17:32:06 GMT -6
Apparently it’s Boqvist, and they swapped picks, 12 for 32. But there’s more involved!!! And I have a feeling the “more involved” are going only one way. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 23, 2021 17:38:38 GMT -6
Apparently it’s Boqvist, and they swapped picks, 12 for 32. But there’s more involved!!! And I have a feeling the “more involved” are going only one way. For sure. But I don’t mind losing Boqvist. I think there’ll be a couple B prospects involved. Probably Teply or Altybarmakyan!!! |
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Post by BigT on Jul 23, 2021 17:40:16 GMT -6
This is even worse than I was expecting from Bowman. You start getting a little bit of breathing room with the cap and then he does this. And since he is still signed for this year, why not wait and see what he can do for us before extending him. He won't need an nmc because no one in their right mind would trade for that contract. After being a loyal Hawks fan for 54 years, I'm coming very close to changing my allegiance to the Bruins right now. I'll come back when Bowman's gone. I’d rather root for Yzermans team at this point!!! |
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Post by vonbeck on Jul 23, 2021 17:40:50 GMT -6
9.5 per for 8 years (supposedly). can't wait to read the complaining here about that contract in a few years when we are still trying to rebuild and his play has declined... Dammit Vads, I've agreed with everything you said here. I'm trying sooo hard to like this move, but I just can't. I mean a supposedly 7 year extension and Adam Boqvist, plus and this just kills me, supposedly 12th overall pick in the draft Friday, on a team that's "rebuilding"? For Fu*ks sakes I hate Stan Bowman! |
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Post by tincup on Jul 23, 2021 17:44:32 GMT -6
And I have a feeling the “more involved” are going only one way. For sure. But I don’t mind losing Boqvist. I think there’ll be a couple B prospects involved. Probably Teply or Altybarmakyan!!! Boqvist wasn’t the best pick there anyways and they mishandled him to boot. That one miscue really stings though as Bowman again gets rid of another first round pick. Gawd I want him turfed and all the sycophants that are feeding him. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 23, 2021 17:46:21 GMT -6
Trading this years 1st was a dumb move, unless they can trade to get LAs pick or someone else's in or near the top10. Maybe Strome will entice LA with maybe one of the Hawks 2nds.
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Post by BigT on Jul 23, 2021 17:46:40 GMT -6
9.5 per for 8 years (supposedly). can't wait to read the complaining here about that contract in a few years when we are still trying to rebuild and his play has declined... Dammit Vads, I've agreed with everything you said here. I'm trying sooo hard to like this move, but I just can't. I mean a supposedly 7 year extension and Adam Boqvist, plus and this just kills me, supposedly 12th overall pick in the draft Friday, on a team that's "rebuilding"? For Fu*ks sakes I hate Stan Bowman! 8 year deal. Hawks receive Jones, pick 32 and a 6th rounder. BJ’s receive…… Boqvist, Picks 12, 44 and a 2022 first round pick. Not liking this at all!!! |
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Post by tincup on Jul 23, 2021 17:49:10 GMT -6
Dammit Vads, I've agreed with everything you said here. I'm trying sooo hard to like this move, but I just can't. I mean a supposedly 7 year extension and Adam Boqvist, plus and this just kills me, supposedly 12th overall pick in the draft Friday, on a team that's "rebuilding"? For Fu*ks sakes I hate Stan Bowman! 8 year deal. Hawks receive Jones, pick 32 and a 6th rounder. BJ’s receive…… Boqvist, Picks 12, 44 and a 2022 first round pick. Not liking this at all!!! Jeezus, somebody take the keys away. |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 23, 2021 17:49:59 GMT -6
I like the player and the return seems fair but the money and term are big. Jones should be good enough to insure we don't see a high pick for the next few years and I thought that was the way the team was goin' but who knows where TF we're goin'.
Guess this brings the 'we have the next Keith and Karlsson' to an abrupt end,we traded the next Keith and Karlsson.......and the real Keith too.....LOL
With Jokiharju and Boqvist already being given up on,how long till Beaudin and Mitchelle follow and we were supposedly set for a decade at the position.
edit: the return sounded a lot better before reading about giving up next year's #1
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Post by number9 on Jul 23, 2021 17:50:45 GMT -6
apparently we gave up next year's first as well
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Post by vonbeck on Jul 23, 2021 17:51:08 GMT -6
Dammit Vads, I've agreed with everything you said here. I'm trying sooo hard to like this move, but I just can't. I mean a supposedly 7 year extension and Adam Boqvist, plus and this just kills me, supposedly 12th overall pick in the draft Friday, on a team that's "rebuilding"? For Fu*ks sakes I hate Stan Bowman! 8 year deal. Hawks receive Jones, pick 32 and a 6th rounder. BJ’s receive…… Boqvist, Picks 12, 44 and a 2022 first round pick. Not liking this at all!!! Fuuuck!  |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 23, 2021 17:56:55 GMT -6
I guess I like Jones more than most but isn't this a move that a team on the 'cusp' makes? We on the 'cusp' Stan?
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Post by vadarx on Jul 23, 2021 17:58:45 GMT -6
Dammit Vads, I've agreed with everything you said here. I'm trying sooo hard to like this move, but I just can't. I mean a supposedly 7 year extension and Adam Boqvist, plus and this just kills me, supposedly 12th overall pick in the draft Friday, on a team that's "rebuilding"? For Fu*ks sakes I hate Stan Bowman! 8 year deal. Hawks receive Jones, pick 32 and a 6th rounder. BJ’s receive…… Boqvist, Picks 12, 44 and a 2022 first round pick. Not liking this at all!!! what a fucking nightmare |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jul 23, 2021 17:58:50 GMT -6
We just got bent over. How the hell does this happen you have got to be kidding me. i have always tried to give Stan the benefit of the doubt but that ends now #stanmustgo
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Post by number9 on Jul 23, 2021 18:01:56 GMT -6
at this point i hope next year's first ends up being first overall.
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Post by vadarx on Jul 23, 2021 18:02:10 GMT -6
We just got bent over. How the hell does this happen you have got to be kidding me. i have always tried to give Stan the benefit of the doubt but that ends now #stanmustgo and we had the leverage... |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 23, 2021 18:02:54 GMT -6
at this point i hope next year's first ends up being first overall. literally the only good part of this trade is that if the get a top 2 next year, we keep the pick. but then have to give up our shot in 2023... |
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Post by tincup on Jul 23, 2021 18:04:10 GMT -6
I like the player and the return seems fair but the money and term are big. Jones should be good enough to insure we don't see a high pick for the next few years and I thought that was the way the team was goin' but who knows where TF we're goin'. Guess this brings the 'we have the next Keith and Karlsson' to an abrupt end,we traded the next Keith and Karlsson.......and the real Keith too.....LOL With Jokiharju and Boqvist already being given up on,how long till Beaudin and Mitchelle follow and we were supposedly set for a decade at the position. edit: the return sounded a lot better before reading about giving up next year's #1 Matter of time before either of Beaudin and Mitchell get moved. Bowman values other teams fourth rounders over his own picks. Yes, Jones becomes the best defenseman but the future is being traded for what will become a very short now. Big overpayment. |
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