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Post by LordKOTL on Jul 28, 2021 10:59:00 GMT -6
His 5M extends 1 year beyond Seabrook's deal, so we have ~2M in cap advantage over what we would have had with Seabs on the books until Seabs would have been done and the 5M hits us...and 5M, while a lot, is not *a lot*. It's not the same 5M that kicked in for Keith way back when we won the 1st cup. By that time Toews and Kane should be off their current deals. Given what Ovi signed for that might be some relief because Kane and Toews aren't Ovi and he's making a mill less than both of them right now. With the core contracts off of the books that 5M shouldn't be as much of a monolithic deal as Seth Jones's. Also, like Jones and MAF (possibly), let's see what they do on the ice in the Indianhead first. For all we know Johnson is a ~20G player again...or he could be a dud. 5 million for a bottom 6 guy is a lot, but as you said, let's see how he looks in the ice. as von and I said, hopefully a change of scenery will help. It is, but for now we're playing a cap advantage over Seabrook for the offseason roster. It's not perfect but in the here-and-now, its acceptable and by 2024/2025 a lot more things could shake out to where the 'hawks could possibly absorb that cap hit--assuming he's still even with the 'hawks. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Jul 28, 2021 12:52:13 GMT -6
So the Hawks sign McCabe from Buffalo.
4 for @4 per year.
Nothing to write home about him.
Looks to have been somewhat injured the last couple seasons.
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Jul 28, 2021 13:11:02 GMT -6
The Chicago Blackhawks signed forward Jujhar Khaira to a two-year contract ($975,000 AAV) and defenseman Jake McCabe to a four-year contract ($4.0 million AAV).
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Post by vonbeck on Jul 28, 2021 13:12:45 GMT -6
So the Hawks sign McCabe from Buffalo. 4 for @4 per year. Nothing to write home about him. Looks to have been somewhat injured the last couple seasons. Solid defensive D-man. But have never played 82 games because of injuries and healthy scratches. And coming off a torn ACL, MCL and meniscus last year and "Dumboman" does a 4 for 4? I don't like it...
Some one prove me wrong...
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Post by vonbeck on Jul 28, 2021 13:17:45 GMT -6
The Chicago Blackhawks signed forward Jujhar Khaira to a two-year contract ($975,000 AAV) and defenseman Jake McCabe to a four-year contract ($4.0 million AAV). Jujhar Khaira is big boy 4th line grinder. A poor man's Dustin Byfuglien. I'm ok with this for the price. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Jul 28, 2021 13:22:09 GMT -6
So the Hawks sign McCabe from Buffalo. 4 for @4 per year. Nothing to write home about him. Looks to have been somewhat injured the last couple seasons. Solid defensive D-man. But have never played 82 games because of injuries and healthy scratches. And coming off a torn ACL, MCL and meniscus last year and "Dumboman" does a 4 for 4? I don't like it...
Some one prove me wrong...
I like the tool in Cap Friendly to compare contracts for the same type player. IE. defensemen. www.capfriendly.com/comparables/jake-mccabe-10726 |
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Post by number9 on Jul 28, 2021 13:24:21 GMT -6
The Chicago Blackhawks signed forward Jujhar Khaira to a two-year contract ($975,000 AAV) and defenseman Jake McCabe to a four-year contract ($4.0 million AAV). Jujhar Khaira is big boy 4th line grinder. A poor man's Dustin Byfuglien. I'm ok with this for the price. It's ok for the price but I just don't see where this guy fits in. We need guys that can play on the top lines and win board battles. This isn't any better than when we replaced Buff, Ladd, Eager and Burish with John Scott. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Jul 28, 2021 13:29:11 GMT -6
Also getting a vibe that the nylander experiment might be over unless he signs with Rockford.
Just not sure what the holdup is on getting Hagel locked, other than the Hawks are now at zero cap.
Unless they can move Shaws money.
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Post by T-man2010 on Jul 28, 2021 13:32:18 GMT -6
Jujhar Khaira is big boy 4th line grinder. A poor man's Dustin Byfuglien. I'm ok with this for the price. It's ok for the price but I just don't see where this guy fits in. We need guys that can play on the top lines and win board battles. This isn't any better than when we replaced Buff, Ladd, Eager and Burish with John Scott. Must never use his name in vain.....  |
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Jul 28, 2021 14:02:05 GMT -6
The Chicago Blackhawks signed forward Jujhar Khaira to a two-year contract ($975,000 AAV) and defenseman Jake McCabe to a four-year contract ($4.0 million AAV). Jujhar Khaira is big boy 4th line grinder. A poor man's Dustin Byfuglien. I'm ok with this for the price. Yeah, he's okay, but I am wondering who is going to be sent packing. I assume that this is it, as far as trades, and now we can start speculating about the lineup. Gone:Suter Hino Kampf What about Connelly and Carpenter? Where will Nylander and Bogrstrom be used? |
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Post by tincup on Jul 28, 2021 14:09:51 GMT -6
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Post by vonbeck on Jul 28, 2021 14:10:16 GMT -6
Jujhar Khaira is big boy 4th line grinder. A poor man's Dustin Byfuglien. I'm ok with this for the price. Yeah, he's okay, but I am wondering who is going to be sent packing. I assume that this is it, as far as trades, and now we can start speculating about the lineup. Gone:Suter Hino Kampf What about Connelly and Carpenter? Where will Nylander and Bogrstrom be used? Oh no, I don't believe "Crazy Stan's Hockey Players Emporium" is done working outlandish moves... |
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Post by vonbeck on Jul 28, 2021 14:19:19 GMT -6
Well I didn't say he could fight 
But yeah that hit doesn't look like it should have buckled him like that. Don't know...
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 28, 2021 14:32:06 GMT -6
The Chicago Blackhawks signed forward Jujhar Khaira to a two-year contract ($975,000 AAV) and defenseman Jake McCabe to a four-year contract ($4.0 million AAV). Jujhar Khaira is big boy 4th line grinder. A poor man's Dustin Byfuglien. I'm ok with this for the price. He sucks and he's not close to a poor man's Buff, he doesn't provide offense and he's not the same since getting knocked out. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 28, 2021 14:44:45 GMT -6
One thing that massively concerns me. Is the amount of turnover. It’s hard for a team to gel when there’s that many new faces. I’m not sure it works out as planned. I feel the Hawks can make the playoffs, but not sure the Hawks go very far. And every year that passes is one more that you don’t get back. The Duo of 19/88 is coming to an end sooner than later. So I hope Scambo is in this for the next few years. Cuz it may not work out after year one. And probably doesn’t. So he needs to hold on to this creation of his longer than he has in the past and make knee jerk reactions and put out another gawd damn letter!!!
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Post by BigT on Jul 28, 2021 14:47:02 GMT -6
Jujhar Khaira is big boy 4th line grinder. A poor man's Dustin Byfuglien. I'm ok with this for the price. He sucks and he's not close to a poor man's Buff, he doesn't provide offense and he's not the same since getting knocked out. I agree. He’s just not even an NHL player in my eyes. My other concern is what about Beaudin, Mitchell and Kalynuk now? They’re all AHL fill. I’m not liking the future here. These kids will all want to be dealt soon due to no room here. They were all good they’re the future, now it’s the total opposite!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 28, 2021 14:50:15 GMT -6
welp...
judging by all that has transpired, it seems to me that ole Stan watched the playoffs and was big into following his boy Marc's team in Montreal...
looks like he figures: add a #1 d and then a #1 goaltender. then just add in grinders that will make it hard to play against and rely on a handful of guys to doing the scoring. grind your way to the Final.
let's see how that goes.
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Post by vadarx on Jul 28, 2021 14:51:41 GMT -6
He sucks and he's not close to a poor man's Buff, he doesn't provide offense and he's not the same since getting knocked out. I agree. He’s just not even an NHL player in my eyes. My other concern is what about Beaudin, Mitchell and Kalynuk now? They’re all AHL fill. I’m not liking the future here. These kids will all want to be dealt soon due to no room here. They were all good they’re the future, now it’s the total opposite!!! they all need a season in Rockford. maybe even two. they'll have their chances, both this year and after they spend more time in the AHL. |
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Jul 28, 2021 15:07:25 GMT -6
He sucks and he's not close to a poor man's Buff, he doesn't provide offense and he's not the same since getting knocked out. I agree. He’s just not even an NHL player in my eyes. My other concern is what about Beaudin, Mitchell and Kalynuk now? They’re all AHL fill. I’m not liking the future here. These kids will all want to be dealt soon due to no room here. They were all good they’re the future, now it’s the total opposite!!! It's impossible to build a team by constantly re-shuffling players like that. Is Khaira that much better than Entwistle? I don't think so. Is Johnson really that much over an improvement of Hino? Not for the money that we pay him. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 28, 2021 15:19:32 GMT -6
I agree. He’s just not even an NHL player in my eyes. My other concern is what about Beaudin, Mitchell and Kalynuk now? They’re all AHL fill. I’m not liking the future here. These kids will all want to be dealt soon due to no room here. They were all good they’re the future, now it’s the total opposite!!! It's impossible to build a team by constantly re-shuffling players like that. Is Khaira that much better than Entwistle? I don't think so. Is Johnson really that much over an improvement of Hino? Not for the money that we pay him. That’s actually a solid point. About Johnson and Hino. Is Johnson really worth it for 3 more at 5 million? Not sure here either!!! |
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Post by T-man2010 on Jul 28, 2021 15:23:52 GMT -6
I agree. He’s just not even an NHL player in my eyes. My other concern is what about Beaudin, Mitchell and Kalynuk now? They’re all AHL fill. I’m not liking the future here. These kids will all want to be dealt soon due to no room here. They were all good they’re the future, now it’s the total opposite!!! they all need a season in Rockford. maybe even two. they'll have their chances, both this year and after they spend more time in the AHL. They're both listed on Rockfords roster in Cap Friendly. Kalnyuk nyuk nyuk is on the big clubs. |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 28, 2021 16:03:30 GMT -6
It's impossible to build a team by constantly re-shuffling players like that. Is Khaira that much better than Entwistle? I don't think so. Is Johnson really that much over an improvement of Hino? Not for the money that we pay him. That’s actually a solid point. About Johnson and Hino. Is Johnson really worth it for 3 more at 5 million? Not sure here either!!! that Johnson trade was all about getting rid of the Seabrook deal so as jot to have to dink around with LTIR every off-seaeon. still seems like we could've gotten a first for helping Tampa out, though... |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jul 28, 2021 16:59:28 GMT -6
He sucks and he's not close to a poor man's Buff, he doesn't provide offense and he's not the same since getting knocked out. I agree. He’s just not even an NHL player in my eyes. My other concern is what about Beaudin, Mitchell and Kalynuk now? They’re all AHL fill. I’m not liking the future here. These kids will all want to be dealt soon due to no room here. They were all good they’re the future, now it’s the total opposite!!! T I dont have a problem with these 2 spending the whole year in Rockford getting top min and learning. I would rather have that happen next year with everything getting back to normal. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 28, 2021 18:23:08 GMT -6
I agree. He’s just not even an NHL player in my eyes. My other concern is what about Beaudin, Mitchell and Kalynuk now? They’re all AHL fill. I’m not liking the future here. These kids will all want to be dealt soon due to no room here. They were all good they’re the future, now it’s the total opposite!!! T I dont have a problem with these 2 spending the whole year in Rockford getting top min and learning. I would rather have that happen next year with everything getting back to normal. I absolutely see what you’re saying. But these kids aren’t even getting a fair chance to make the team this year after doing pretty well last year. Now they’ve been given up on. Gotta feel for them. Mitchell was told they’re rebuilding and he’d get a shot. Scambo passed him along as the next great thing, like Makar. Maybe he could be, but he’s not gonna get a chance now. I think it’d be best to just trade the lot of them. Give them a shot. With the brothers Jones here, McCabe, Murph, Stillman and DeHaan. There’s just no room for them to break in over the next couple of years. Give em a shot elsewhere!!! |
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Post by nighbor on Jul 28, 2021 18:25:27 GMT -6
Late 3rd actually. Nice value Stan is smokin' ...something It was a pick Calgary got from the Leafs so it could be an early 3rd. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 28, 2021 18:34:15 GMT -6
not many tribute videos from 4 year nhl forwards feature over 1/3 of their nhl goals in just over a minute.
best o' luck in TO, herr kampf.
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 28, 2021 18:40:12 GMT -6
Pius is a red wang now
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Post by nighbor on Jul 28, 2021 18:46:50 GMT -6
I get it if we can't afford Zadorov, but I don't like it. It essentially means that for the story thus far, Panarin was dealt for a Calgary 3rd. That was the same price for Bollig. It may not be an apples-to-apples comparison but that stings especially when you compare it to Karpo for Hjammer, getting the most out of him and then flipping it for Murph, who's at least a serviceable bottom pair. One could put it that way. One could also put it that because we could not afford to sign Panarin we got a third for Zadorov. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 28, 2021 18:50:06 GMT -6
2 years at 3.25 per. he's done very well for himself. |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 28, 2021 18:54:54 GMT -6
Late 3rd actually. Nice value Stan is smokin' ...something It was a pick Calgary got from the Leafs so it could be an early 3rd. 🤣 |
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