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Post by LordKOTL on Jul 29, 2021 16:47:19 GMT -6
Good post. I fully agree with your assessment on the lines. As far as Panera went. He publicly stated he would of taken less money to remain with the Hawks. He wanted to be here. My main concern was, why didn’t Scambo go and get a solid young center like Pierre Luc Dubois instead? I’m sure he could’ve gotten a solid young player instead. Saad just wasn’t on the same plane as Panera. I was all for trading him. I really was, but the return has to be impressive for a top 10 scorer in the league. Especially on a cap friendly deal and only 25/26 at the time. Need to get better than that. Also the constant downgrading on trade is getting annoying and downright worrisome. To trade Panera for Saad is bad, then Saad for Zadorov is much worse. Then to trade Zadorov for a 3rd rounder is just plain depressing. That can’t happen ever again!!! Wanting to remain is commendable but I could not imagine a discount of more than 10-15% and that would have still been 9.350M We would have had 31M tied up in 3 players which was more than we or any team could afford. That was not quite what I meant. Panarin was a 30G/70P player for the Blackhawks and was signed to a 6M for 2Y contract with the 'hawks before being traded to Columbus almost straight up for Saad. The the following 2 years for Columbus, he was 27G/82P and 28G/87P, which might have been a slight decrease in goals but an over 10P uptick...and this was without Kane. Now, even if the 'hawks knew they would never be able to resign him, in retrospect at the TDL of the 2019 year, the 'hawks could have sold on Panarin. Given his output, especially to a team poised to make a cup run, they could have made out like bandits in terms of picks and prospects--some team poised to win the cup would have suddenly got loaded. Instead we got Saad...who became Zadorov...who became a Calgary 3rd. Even though I got the deal at the time with the concept of Saad + Toews equals chemistry, and Saad should have bolstered the D from the FWDs. On paper the move made sense on that. However, if Stan & Co. was looking so far ahead that he was worried about not being able to afford Panarin, why sell low? Kane makes everyone better around him and Panarin could have commanded even more in a trade return the longer he played for the 'hawks. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 29, 2021 16:49:48 GMT -6
Panarin said his GF wanted to go big city for her modeling career. The only choices were going to be NY, Miami or LA. Yea we traded him after signing the bridge deal for 2 years @ 6.0 and took back Saads 4 year @ 6.0. You can say we traded Saad for Z and then 3rd rounder, but Blue jackets got nothing for Panarin and Bobrovsky too. true about the GF, but I think that doesn't come out if they are still in Chicago. that was when he was in c-bus and no one wants to stay there... I agree. I remember him saying some things like that too. I don’t blame guys for not wanting to play in Cbus. I think that team will be moving over the next 5-10 years. The fans will eventually give up if no one wants to play there. I’d give up too living in a complete and utter dank place!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 29, 2021 20:39:05 GMT -6
Good post. I fully agree with your assessment on the lines. As far as Panera went. He publicly stated he would of taken less money to remain with the Hawks. He wanted to be here. My main concern was, why didn’t Scambo go and get a solid young center like Pierre Luc Dubois instead? I’m sure he could’ve gotten a solid young player instead. Saad just wasn’t on the same plane as Panera. I was all for trading him. I really was, but the return has to be impressive for a top 10 scorer in the league. Especially on a cap friendly deal and only 25/26 at the time. Need to get better than that. Also the constant downgrading on trade is getting annoying and downright worrisome. To trade Panera for Saad is bad, then Saad for Zadorov is much worse. Then to trade Zadorov for a 3rd rounder is just plain depressing. That can’t happen ever again!!! Wanting to remain is commendable but I could not imagine a discount of more than 10-15% and that would have still been 9.350M We would have had 31M tied up in 3 players which was more than we or any team could afford. We can' afford 9-10 million for Panarin but we can afford 12 million for deHAAH-job,Shaw and Smith(who's been replaced in uselessness by Connelly)....Do I have that right? We now have 30.5 million tied up in three players.....is that more than we or any team can afford? |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 29, 2021 20:47:13 GMT -6
Right on! I fully agree. I will give a wee bit of credit when due, but it’s not due yet. So I’ll hold judgement till a while into the season. My main concern is that the team has bare cupboards and this last shot just made them super special bare with no 1st rounder next year. If Toews and Kane fly the fuck outta here in 2 years, there’s really no plan and even paying them for 3-5 more years is gonna be useless at best. I can’t see either taking much of a pay cut. Maybe 8.5 per for another 3 years, but that’s still a lot to pay aging players, especially when the dream will be over. I even think the Seth Jones saga doesn’t go the full 8. There’s a really good chance in 2 years time that there’ll be no youth and no stars to lean on anymore. If anything. Now is the time to get guys signed long term before the cap goes back up. I’d sign Dcat now for 8 million per for 8 years. It’ll pay dividends when the cap is at 95-100 million in 5 years time!!! the plan seems pretty obvious to me. go for it this year and next. if it works, or at least kinda works, retool after the next 2 seasons. if it doesn't, then sell off everything but Jones, D🐈, Dach, Kane, and maybbbeee Toews (if he takes a massive pay cut) and start the rebuild anew. this may even happen after (or during) this next season if the coming season goes badly... Otherwise known as flying by the seat of your pants or just making it up as you go along. If it doesn't,I doubt we have to worry about paying K&T in two years and D-Cat might prove difficult to re-sign too if he tires of watching PO games on TV. |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 29, 2021 21:22:16 GMT -6
the plan seems pretty obvious to me. go for it this year and next. if it works, or at least kinda works, retool after the next 2 seasons. if it doesn't, then sell off everything but Jones, D🐈, Dach, Kane, and maybbbeee Toews (if he takes a massive pay cut) and start the rebuild anew. this may even happen after (or during) this next season if the coming season goes badly... Otherwise known as flying by the seat of your pants or just making it up as you go along. If it doesn't,I doubt we have to worry about paying K&T in two years and D-Cat might prove difficult to re-sign too if he tires of watching PO games on TV. all strong possibilities. especially when the wangs will be on the upswing in 2 years when he is up for a new deal. I expect that Bowman will re-up he and 88 next summer, though. |
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Post by nighbor on Jul 30, 2021 11:19:14 GMT -6
Wanting to remain is commendable but I could not imagine a discount of more than 10-15% and that would have still been 9.350M We would have had 31M tied up in 3 players which was more than we or any team could afford. We can' afford 9-10 million for Panarin but we can afford 12 million for deHAAH-job,Shaw and Smith(who's been replaced in uselessness by Connelly)....Do I have that right? We now have 30.5 million tied up in three players.....is that more than we or any team can afford? Jones is only earning $5.4M this season so we only have $26.4 tied up in three players. We will have to wait until the 2022-23 seasons to see who is right. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 30, 2021 11:42:37 GMT -6
Considering Hamilton got 9mill per on the open market, Seths 9.5 doesn't seem as bad because he's a better all round dman. The 8yrs is too much but like Bowman said, it's rare when a #1 dman is available.
Hopefully his little brother steps up and has a solid year.
It's tough seeing Keith gone but the new D group is bigger and younger.
Righties- Seth, Murphy, Mitchell, Regula
Lefties- McCabe, Kalynuk, Stillman, Beaudin, Caleb, de Haan
Of course many things could happen before training camp but I'm ok with that group, especially without a small scared Boqvist. A bad shoulder or knee can be repaired but he's had probably 5-6 known concussions since his draft year.
One guy I'd love the Hawks to get is Slavin, his younger brother will be on the bottom 6 one day and Stan is getting brothers together so why not try. Offer Strome, de Haan and a prospect or pick.
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Post by hsbob on Jul 30, 2021 16:06:38 GMT -6
We can' afford 9-10 million for Panarin but we can afford 12 million for deHAAH-job,Shaw and Smith(who's been replaced in uselessness by Connelly)....Do I have that right? We now have 30.5 million tied up in three players.....is that more than we or any team can afford? Jones is only earning $5.4M this season so we only have $26.4 tied up in three players. We will have to wait until the 2022-23 seasons to see who is right. It might not start until next year but should a team pay three players 30 million plus or not? |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 30, 2021 16:24:41 GMT -6
Considering Hamilton got 9mill per on the open market, Seths 9.5 doesn't seem as bad because he's a better all round dman. The 8yrs is too much but like Bowman said, it's rare when a #1 dman is available. Hopefully his little brother steps up and has a solid year. It's tough seeing Keith gone but the new D group is bigger and younger. Righties- Seth, Murphy, Mitchell, Regula Lefties- McCabe, Kalynuk, Stillman, de Haan, Caleb. Of course many things could happen before training camp but I'm ok with that group, especially without a small scared Boqvist. A bad shoulder or knee can be repaired but he's had probably 5-6 known concussions since his draft year. One guy I'd love the Hawks to get is Slavin, his younger brother will be on the bottom 6 one day and Stan is getting brothers together so why not try. Offer Strome, de Haan and a prospect or pick. Who's a #1 on that list except Seth Jones? If there isn't one....do we have a true top pair. If we don't have a true top pair,is S Jones just carrying a bottom pair guy on the top pair? Beaudin is totally off your list and Mitchell should be too,both will be passed over,wasted 1st round picks but hey.....we'll get more.....not next year though. I'm in shock how we've just moved on from four 1st round D picks that were supposedly the team's future basically turning into dust because we went out and signed some pricey FA's. I do still like your enthusiasm and positivity though.....just wish I could share it. To be fair,the D-men are bigger now....let's hope they're the right bigger guys this time. Brothers are the new fad du jour and SB and Prince Daniel have their jobs through blood-lines so they probably figured it'd work for the whole team. Didn't we have the Sikura brothers too? |
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Post by tincup on Jul 30, 2021 17:40:21 GMT -6
The more I look at this team I find it hard how anyone in the front office could be proud of what they’ve done here. This is now a team that hasn’t been constructed as much as it has been purchased because the builder is too incompetent to produce something of value himself. This is like a carpenter so bad he can’t even build his own picnic table without buying a kit, a cook that never learned to grill a steak so he can only boil hotdogs, a mechanic who takes his own car to the quickie lube. Sure the previous builders left some usable pieces behind when they left and there were some slick finds from a yard sale or two, but this looks like the worst DIY’er you’ll ever see on a reality TV show. Might make an interesting episode on Adam Carolla’s Catch a Contractor show.
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Post by jacksalmon on Jul 30, 2021 18:05:49 GMT -6
So the Hawks sign McCabe from Buffalo. 4 for @4 per year. Nothing to write home about him. Looks to have been somewhat injured the last couple seasons. Solid defensive D-man. But have never played 82 games because of injuries and healthy scratches. And coming off a torn ACL, MCL and meniscus last year and "Dumboman" does a 4 for 4? I don't like it...
Some one prove me wrong...
Coming off a torn ACL, MCL and meniscus? And Bowman signs him for 4 years? Is Bowman nuts or is he on a mission to so completely destroy the Hawks as to make even a successful rebuild possible for the next 20 to 30 years? Who would a sign guy with that injury history for 4 years? |
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Post by jacksalmon on Jul 30, 2021 18:07:53 GMT -6
On top of signing a guy with a history of torn ACL, MCL and meniscus, he signs a guy with a history of back to back concussions? He is definitely on a mission to ruin this team completely. What did the Hawks ever do to him to deserve this treatment and where are those who are powerful enough to fire Bowman? |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 30, 2021 18:40:03 GMT -6
Considering Hamilton got 9mill per on the open market, Seths 9.5 doesn't seem as bad because he's a better all round dman. The 8yrs is too much but like Bowman said, it's rare when a #1 dman is available. Hopefully his little brother steps up and has a solid year. It's tough seeing Keith gone but the new D group is bigger and younger. Righties- Seth, Murphy, Mitchell, Regula Lefties- McCabe, Kalynuk, Stillman, de Haan, Caleb. Of course many things could happen before training camp but I'm ok with that group, especially without a small scared Boqvist. A bad shoulder or knee can be repaired but he's had probably 5-6 known concussions since his draft year. One guy I'd love the Hawks to get is Slavin, his younger brother will be on the bottom 6 one day and Stan is getting brothers together so why not try. Offer Strome, de Haan and a prospect or pick. Who's a #1 on that list except Seth Jones? If there isn't one....do we have a true top pair. If we don't have a true top pair,is S Jones just carrying a bottom pair guy on the top pair? Beaudin is totally off your list and Mitchell should be too,both will be passed over,wasted 1st round picks but hey.....we'll get more.....not next year though. I'm in shock how we've just moved on from four 1st round D picks that were supposedly the team's future basically turning into dust because we went out and signed some pricey FA's. I do still like your enthusiasm and positivity though.....just wish I could share it. To be fair,the D-men are bigger now....let's hope they're the right bigger guys this time. Brothers are the new fad du jour and SB and Prince Daniel have their jobs through blood-lines so they probably figured it'd work for the whole team. Didn't we have the Sikura brothers too? It's Seth, I didn't say they had another #1, most teams don't have two #1's. But there's enough top4 guys who can play with Seth. Slavin and Seth could be a legit 1a-1b, doubt it'll happen though. Originally I mentioned Beaudin and wrote a paragraph about him but deleted it, plus I had him were Kalynuk is but forgot to put him back on my list of lefties. Hopefully he progresses like he has every year and forces them to make a spot for him. Kalynuk has decent size and wheels, he could play with Seth, or maybe Caleb and Seth make a great paring. C.J. is a good skater who plays physical, it's his consistency that's his problem, maybe it was Edmonton 🤷♂️ Beaudin certainly has the smarts and skating to play on the top2 but his size playing against top lines might not work unless he adds muscle and gets in the 190's like Keith did, They're high on Beaudin and Mitchell so I don't think they'll be forgotten but Mitchell could use a start in Rockford to get stronger and play in all situations. McCabe is a strange one at 4×4 but playing in Buffalo would wreck a dmans knees lol he said he's been skating for a bit now and feels good. Seth said he needs to improve on offense so having a more stay at home guy like McCabe or Stillman could be a good pairing. We'll see how the summer progresses and who's here at training camp. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 30, 2021 18:52:53 GMT -6
Sorry for the novels but it is summer.
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Post by T-man2010 on Jul 30, 2021 18:53:29 GMT -6
Jones is only earning $5.4M this season so we only have $26.4 tied up in three players. We will have to wait until the 2022-23 seasons to see who is right. It might not start until next year but should a team pay three players 30 million plus or not? They probably already know either Toews or Kane will want out after this year. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 30, 2021 19:07:15 GMT -6
Adam Gaudette said he added 20lbs since the season ended and he's faster and stronger. He has greasy hands and a hard shot, signing for 1yr is a good move to prove he deserves an extension or let go. Could be a nice surprise next season.
When the Hawks got him I was surprised he's listed at 6'1" 170lbs because he looked bigger and plays like it. With a couple months to go he might get close to 200lbs.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 30, 2021 19:24:43 GMT -6
On top of signing a guy with a history of torn ACL, MCL and meniscus, he signs a guy with a history of back to back concussions? He is definitely on a mission to ruin this team completely. What did the Hawks ever do to him to deserve this treatment and where are those who are powerful enough to fire Bowman? For the price Jujhar can fill in on the 4th line when needed, with his last 2 injuries he might not earn a spot and he's waived to Rockford, either way I hope he doesn't get a spot over Entwistle and Hardman. McCabe is a strange signing because of what you said, but he's a big local kid and having his 4mill on the LTIR is better than 6.8 for Seabs, if kneed be...see what I did there lol and he's in his late 20's, better than late 30's plus he said he's 100% and skating. His familiarity with Murphy might've been a reason the Hawks got him, plus Seth. Yes the team is turned over a lot once again but at least there's connections with certain guys. But yes I agree Bowman should be gone, this rape scandal might do it and John Mcdonnut was the first to fall, add Bowman and McIssac and clean house. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 30, 2021 19:42:12 GMT -6
Sorry for the novels but it is summer. Keep em coming. It’s something to read in the summer. We’re heading out roughly your way next week for a tourney in Calgary. I believe you’re out Edmonton way? I just hope the forest fires don’t ruin our vacation after to Banff. Doesn’t look good as of now. But we’ll see!!! |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 30, 2021 20:48:18 GMT -6
Adam Gaudette said he added 20lbs since the season ended and he's faster and stronger. He has greasy hands and a hard shot, signing for 1yr is a good move to prove he deserves an extension or let go. Could be a nice surprise next season. When the Hawks got him I was surprised he's listed at 6'1" 170lbs because he looked bigger and plays like it. With a couple months to go he might get close to 200lbs. turns out he had an illness that was hard to track down for quite a while. pretty amazing the guy could even hang onto an nhl career with the symptoms/side effects of his affliction. this articles almost 3 months old... Blackhawks forward Adam Gaudette has spent his entire NHL career below his desired weight.
But Gaudette finally expects to be able to bulk up his 6-1, 170-pound body this offseason.
Why? After years of struggling with a lack of appetite, involuntary vomiting and nausea and searching fruitlessly for a cause, Gaudette finally was diagnosed last fall with candidiasis, a condition in which Candida — a type of yeast that naturally lives in the human body — grows out of control in the digestive system.
‘‘I would get sick in the mornings,’’ Gaudette said last week. ‘‘I would throw up all the time. I couldn’t eat; I wasn’t hungry. After a game, I’d have a protein shake and wouldn’t be able to eat for hours after. I just wasn’t getting the nutrients and the food in me.’’chicago.suntimes.com/blackhawks/2021/5/4/22414688/blackhawks-adam-gaudette-candida-overgrowth-canucks-jeremy-colliton#:~:text=NHL-,Blackhawks'%20Adam%20Gaudette%20anticipates%20big%20offseason%20after%20overcoming%20candidiasis,for%20years%2C%20has%20been%20treated. like you said, he could be a nice surprise this season. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 30, 2021 21:08:50 GMT -6
Adam Gaudette said he added 20lbs since the season ended and he's faster and stronger. He has greasy hands and a hard shot, signing for 1yr is a good move to prove he deserves an extension or let go. Could be a nice surprise next season. When the Hawks got him I was surprised he's listed at 6'1" 170lbs because he looked bigger and plays like it. With a couple months to go he might get close to 200lbs. turns out he had an illness that was hard to track down for quite a while. pretty amazing the guy could even hang onto an nhl career with the symptoms/side effects of his affliction. this articles almost 3 months old... Blackhawks forward Adam Gaudette has spent his entire NHL career below his desired weight.
But Gaudette finally expects to be able to bulk up his 6-1, 170-pound body this offseason.
Why? After years of struggling with a lack of appetite, involuntary vomiting and nausea and searching fruitlessly for a cause, Gaudette finally was diagnosed last fall with candidiasis, a condition in which Candida — a type of yeast that naturally lives in the human body — grows out of control in the digestive system.
‘‘I would get sick in the mornings,’’ Gaudette said last week. ‘‘I would throw up all the time. I couldn’t eat; I wasn’t hungry. After a game, I’d have a protein shake and wouldn’t be able to eat for hours after. I just wasn’t getting the nutrients and the food in me.’’chicago.suntimes.com/blackhawks/2021/5/4/22414688/blackhawks-adam-gaudette-candida-overgrowth-canucks-jeremy-colliton#:~:text=NHL-,Blackhawks'%20Adam%20Gaudette%20anticipates%20big%20offseason%20after%20overcoming%20candidiasis,for%20years%2C%20has%20been%20treated. like you said, he could be a nice surprise this season. I just watched the video posted on NHL Live after he signed, didn't elaborate on his condition but he said him and his team finally fixed something that bothered him for a while. 20lbs is a lot in that time, great to hear he responded so quickly after fixing his diet. New found energy and much needed size for the 24yr old must be a huge relief. I thought he looked good in his 7gms here, 1g-3a, had a few grade A chances but didn't capitalize. That was at an unhealthy 170lbs. Plus I like his sleeves, Star Wars themed 👍 |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 30, 2021 22:33:25 GMT -6
turns out he had an illness that was hard to track down for quite a while. pretty amazing the guy could even hang onto an nhl career with the symptoms/side effects of his affliction. this articles almost 3 months old... Blackhawks forward Adam Gaudette has spent his entire NHL career below his desired weight.
But Gaudette finally expects to be able to bulk up his 6-1, 170-pound body this offseason.
Why? After years of struggling with a lack of appetite, involuntary vomiting and nausea and searching fruitlessly for a cause, Gaudette finally was diagnosed last fall with candidiasis, a condition in which Candida — a type of yeast that naturally lives in the human body — grows out of control in the digestive system.
‘‘I would get sick in the mornings,’’ Gaudette said last week. ‘‘I would throw up all the time. I couldn’t eat; I wasn’t hungry. After a game, I’d have a protein shake and wouldn’t be able to eat for hours after. I just wasn’t getting the nutrients and the food in me.’’chicago.suntimes.com/blackhawks/2021/5/4/22414688/blackhawks-adam-gaudette-candida-overgrowth-canucks-jeremy-colliton#:~:text=NHL-,Blackhawks'%20Adam%20Gaudette%20anticipates%20big%20offseason%20after%20overcoming%20candidiasis,for%20years%2C%20has%20been%20treated. like you said, he could be a nice surprise this season. I thought he looked good in his 7gms here, 1g-3a, had a few grade A chances but didn't capitalize. That was at an unhealthy 170lbs. he was actually listed as 184 lbs. the year he won the hobey baker at northeastern uni in 2017/18. |
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Post by Tater on Jul 30, 2021 23:36:38 GMT -6
Sorry for the novels but it is summer. Yes please! I hate logging in and there's only a couple new posts. |
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Post by Tater on Jul 30, 2021 23:38:27 GMT -6
On top of signing a guy with a history of torn ACL, MCL and meniscus, he signs a guy with a history of back to back concussions? He is definitely on a mission to ruin this team completely. What did the Hawks ever do to him to deserve this treatment and where are those who are powerful enough to fire Bowman? It's a good thing hitting, fighting or contact of any type is generally frowned upon here.  |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 31, 2021 7:28:34 GMT -6
Adam Gaudette said he added 20lbs since the season ended and he's faster and stronger. He has greasy hands and a hard shot, signing for 1yr is a good move to prove he deserves an extension or let go. Could be a nice surprise next season. When the Hawks got him I was surprised he's listed at 6'1" 170lbs because he looked bigger and plays like it. With a couple months to go he might get close to 200lbs. A 25yro who's played @170lbs his entire career is gonna gain 20 pounds in 2 months(he juicin'?..LOL)and get faster too? Stronger...sure but the main reason small framed guys remain small framed is because gaining those mythical 10-15 ponds of muscle I hear about affects their speed and quickness. Of course 17&18 year olds will gain body mass just through the process of maturation but guys in their mid 20's are done growing and adding almost 12% of his body weight in such a short time is a big deal.....unless he's a body builder. I think I gained 20lbs since the season ended too.....LOL edit: After reading about his medical condition,all I can say is I wish the guy well. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 31, 2021 7:54:09 GMT -6
Adam Gaudette said he added 20lbs since the season ended and he's faster and stronger. He has greasy hands and a hard shot, signing for 1yr is a good move to prove he deserves an extension or let go. Could be a nice surprise next season. When the Hawks got him I was surprised he's listed at 6'1" 170lbs because he looked bigger and plays like it. With a couple months to go he might get close to 200lbs. A 25yro who's played @170lbs his entire career is gonna gain 20 pounds in 2 months(he juicin'?..LOL)and get faster too? Stronger...sure but the main reason small framed guys remain small framed is because gaining those mythical 10-15 ponds of muscle I hear about affects their speed and quickness. Of course 17&18 year olds will gain body mass just through the process of maturation but guys in their mid 20's are done growing and adding almost 12% of his body weight in such a short time is a big deal.....unless he's a body builder. I think I gained 20lbs since the season ended too.....LOL edit: After reading about his medical condition,all I can say is I wish the guy well. He'll be 25 when the season starts so he's still 24 lol and his medical condition would play a huge part in not gaining weight, especially not absorbing nutrients. With new found energy and his body getting the fuel it needs, it doesn't surprise me he added weight. And if most of that weight is in his legs that'll give him a stronger stride and intial push, just like when 17-18yr olds add muscle, it helps with their skating. Gaudette has been held back because of his illness so he's like a teenager going through a growth spurt now, glad he figured it out and he's healthy now. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 31, 2021 8:42:22 GMT -6
A 25yro who's played @170lbs his entire career is gonna gain 20 pounds in 2 months(he juicin'?..LOL)and get faster too? Stronger...sure but the main reason small framed guys remain small framed is because gaining those mythical 10-15 ponds of muscle I hear about affects their speed and quickness. Of course 17&18 year olds will gain body mass just through the process of maturation but guys in their mid 20's are done growing and adding almost 12% of his body weight in such a short time is a big deal.....unless he's a body builder. I think I gained 20lbs since the season ended too.....LOL edit: After reading about his medical condition,all I can say is I wish the guy well. He'll be 25 when the season starts so he's still 24 lol and his medical condition would play a huge part in not gaining weight, especially not absorbing nutrients. With new found energy and his body getting the fuel it needs, it doesn't surprise me he added weight. And if most of that weight is in his legs that'll give him a stronger stride and intial push, just like when 17-18yr olds add muscle, it helps with their skating. Gaudette has been held back because of his illness so he's like a teenager going through a growth spurt now, glad he figured it out and he's healthy now. I was thinking kinda the same. If he does do great, it wouldn’t surprise me. The only good thing about a lot of turnover, you will find some gems. Just due to the numbers game. If you only try out 1 new guy a year, chances are you won’t find anyone. You try out 10 new guys through a year, and do it for 3-4 years, you’ll find a few gems along the way. But he’s a had decent numbers before, and if he wasn’t healthy, that’ll hamper it. If he’s healthy now, we could see a Kubalik type performance. This team needs a power forward something fierce. The only thing is, with his new body, it may take him 6 months to get going. So I hope they don’t have a super short leash with the guy. And I hope they have a super short leash with JC. This is JC’s 4th season. It’s either he knows, or he doesn’t. It seems players don’t care for his style too much. I think players need to be pulled aside and tell them to get their ass in gear. They don’t always need to be “communicated” with. Sometimes that communication is simply “if you’re not better, you don’t fuckin play. Get your ass movin”!!! |
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Post by nighbor on Jul 31, 2021 8:46:49 GMT -6
Jones is only earning $5.4M this season so we only have $26.4 tied up in three players. We will have to wait until the 2022-23 seasons to see who is right. It might not start until next year but should a team pay three players 30 million plus or not? Normally I would say no. In our case we had two players who have earned their $21M combined salaries if anyone has. We were in desperate need of a #1 D and over the next few years there is no one better than Seth Jones that will become available and it would take many years to develop one. Short term pain for long term gain. |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 31, 2021 9:31:39 GMT -6
It might not start until next year but should a team pay three players 30 million plus or not? Normally I would say no. In our case we had two players who have earned their $21M combined salaries if anyone has. We were in desperate need of a #1 D and over the next few years there is no one better than Seth Jones that will become available and it would take many years to develop one. Short term pain for long term gain.You said no team could afford paying over 30 million for three players and I believe the future will prove you right....it's hasn't helped the Leafs. The Breadman was worth doing so more than Jones is IMO. |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 31, 2021 9:36:29 GMT -6
A 25yro who's played @170lbs his entire career is gonna gain 20 pounds in 2 months(he juicin'?..LOL)and get faster too? Stronger...sure but the main reason small framed guys remain small framed is because gaining those mythical 10-15 ponds of muscle I hear about affects their speed and quickness. Of course 17&18 year olds will gain body mass just through the process of maturation but guys in their mid 20's are done growing and adding almost 12% of his body weight in such a short time is a big deal.....unless he's a body builder. I think I gained 20lbs since the season ended too.....LOL edit: After reading about his medical condition,all I can say is I wish the guy well. He'll be 25 when the season starts so he's still 24 lol and his medical condition would play a huge part in not gaining weight, especially not absorbing nutrients. With new found energy and his body getting the fuel it needs, it doesn't surprise me he added weight. And if most of that weight is in his legs that'll give him a stronger stride and intial push, just like when 17-18yr olds add muscle, it helps with their skating. Gaudette has been held back because of his illness so he's like a teenager going through a growth spurt now, glad he figured it out and he's healthy now. I hope you're right and I wish the kid the best! The last thing the team needed was ANOTHER 170 pounder,they really don't need a 5'8" guy either......for 5 million to boot. |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 31, 2021 9:38:50 GMT -6
He'll be 25 when the season starts so he's still 24 lol and his medical condition would play a huge part in not gaining weight, especially not absorbing nutrients. With new found energy and his body getting the fuel it needs, it doesn't surprise me he added weight. And if most of that weight is in his legs that'll give him a stronger stride and intial push, just like when 17-18yr olds add muscle, it helps with their skating. Gaudette has been held back because of his illness so he's like a teenager going through a growth spurt now, glad he figured it out and he's healthy now. I was thinking kinda the same. If he does do great, it wouldn’t surprise me. The only good thing about a lot of turnover, you will find some gems. Just due to the numbers game. If you only try out 1 new guy a year, chances are you won’t find anyone. You try out 10 new guys through a year, and do it for 3-4 years, you’ll find a few gems along the way. But he’s a had decent numbers before, and if he wasn’t healthy, that’ll hamper it. If he’s healthy now, we could see a Kubalik type performance. This team needs a power forward something fierce. The only thing is, with his new body, it may take him 6 months to get going. So I hope they don’t have a super short leash with the guy. And I hope they have a super short leash with JC. This is JC’s 4th season. It’s either he knows, or he doesn’t. It seems players don’t care for his style too much. I think players need to be pulled aside and tell them to get their ass in gear. They don’t always need to be “communicated” with. Sometimes that communication is simply “if you’re not better, you don’t fuckin play. Get your ass movin”!!! To your last sentence........you mean guys like Nolander and Sikura skatin' top six minutes over MUCH better palyers? |
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