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Post by BigT on Jul 24, 2021 14:00:09 GMT -6
I'm liking the picks so far, people can't say Bowman doesn't draft from the CHL and only drafts small guys anymore. But, just like all the other drafts. Very few make it from these rounds. Especially for Scambo. He hasn’t hit on many, and it looks like he must have watched at least one playoff game this year. There’s a lot of size in the playoffs. The small so called skilled dmen experiment failed. Miserably. So I wouldn’t put to much into these later draft pics too much, just like every year!!! |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 24, 2021 14:19:37 GMT -6
I'm liking the picks so far, people can't say Bowman doesn't draft from the CHL and only drafts small guys anymore. But, just like all the other drafts. Very few make it from these rounds. Especially for Scambo. He hasn’t hit on many, and it looks like he must have watched at least one playoff game this year. There’s a lot of size in the playoffs. The small so called skilled dmen experiment failed. Miserably. So I wouldn’t put to much into these later draft pics too much, just like every year!!! I don't like Bowman either but I'm optimistic, especially when he's finally drafting from the CHL and addressing size. Two things we mentioned many times over the years. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 24, 2021 14:23:16 GMT -6
A friend of mine has a cousin with season tickets for the Raiders and he said Allan is a stud on D. Everything I've read about him sounds like a solid pick, regardless of when the reports projected him.
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Post by BigT on Jul 24, 2021 14:27:16 GMT -6
A friend of mine has a cousin with season tickets for the Raiders and he said Allan is a stud on D. Everything I've read about him sounds like a solid pick, regardless of when the reports projected him. That’s good to hear. Also, I wasn’t just ragging on Scambo. Just that not many make it from later rounds. Especially for the Hawks of late. But not many teams have a ton of 4th round picks on their team!!! |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 24, 2021 15:12:39 GMT -6
A friend of mine has a cousin with season tickets for the Raiders and he said Allan is a stud on D. Everything I've read about him sounds like a solid pick, regardless of when the reports projected him. That’s good to hear. Also, I wasn’t just ragging on Scambo. Just that not many make it from later rounds. Especially for the Hawks of late. But not many teams have a ton of 4th round picks on their team!!! Doesn't help when they drafted guys 5'9"ish around 160-170. But since they took Dach at #3 they drafted guys in later rounds who're progressing nicely, we'll see within the next few years if any of them make the Hawks. Phillips has a great chance with his skating, size, and shot, maybe in a year or 2 he'll force management to make room for him or trade him. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 24, 2021 15:25:46 GMT -6
6th round pick the Hawks take another big guy, 6'4" 205lb Russian center Ilya Safonov. From the World Junior highlights he's a good hitter.
They got another D in the 7th, 6'1" 190lb righty and a very thin forward from British Columbia, only 150lbs, but his 3rd year in the WHL he had more points than the first 2 combined with almost a third of the games played.
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Post by vadarx on Jul 24, 2021 17:04:24 GMT -6
It's sucks Bowman added a 2nd to go along with two 1st but I'm glad the Hawks got Dach near the end of the 2nd round, thought for sure someone would've grabbed him. told ya 😁 now someone hand me the icyhot, I pulled something slapping myself on the back... |
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Post by BigT on Jul 24, 2021 17:31:32 GMT -6
Good reporting OTH. Keep em coming!!!
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 24, 2021 17:35:41 GMT -6
6th round pick the Hawks take another big guy, 6'4" 205lb Russian center Ilya Safonov. From the World Junior highlights he's a good hitter. according to twitter, safonov's the guy dach ran into when dach broke his wrist. just keep them apart at practice. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 24, 2021 17:51:36 GMT -6
A friend of mine has a cousin with season tickets for the Raiders and he said Allan is a stud on D. Everything I've read about him sounds like a solid pick, regardless of when the reports projected him. right or wrong, it seems to me bowman had his heart set on drafting both allan and dach and he figured he'd lose out on one if he didn't pick the other one too early. |
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Post by tincup on Jul 24, 2021 18:03:04 GMT -6
6th round pick the Hawks take another big guy, 6'4" 205lb Russian center Ilya Safonov. From the World Junior highlights he's a good hitter. according to twitter, safonov's the guy dach ran into when dach broke his wrist. just keep them apart at practice. That’s where I remember that name! I knew it was familiar. |
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Post by tincup on Jul 24, 2021 18:08:50 GMT -6
I also see that Arizona drafted the overager Josh Doan early in the second well above his ranking. Kid has some skill but this is clearly a PR move.
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Post by hsbob on Jul 24, 2021 18:14:39 GMT -6
I'm liking the picks so far, people can't say Bowman doesn't draft from the CHL and only drafts small guys anymore. But, just like all the other drafts. Very few make it from these rounds. Especially for Scambo. He hasn’t hit on many, and it looks like he must have watched at least one playoff game this year. There’s a lot of size in the playoffs. The small so called skilled dmen experiment failed. Miserably. So I wouldn’t put to much into these later draft pics too much, just like every year!!! Guys on NHL radio said an average of 54 kids from every draft play 200 games or more in the NHL and it's good to see SB has finally found size to be an advantage.........what did it take him? Twelve years? |
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Post by acesandeights on Jul 24, 2021 18:49:49 GMT -6
6th round pick the Hawks take another big guy, 6'4" 205lb Russian center Ilya Safonov. From the World Junior highlights he's a good hitter. They got another D in the 7th, 6'1" 190lb righty and a very thin forward from British Columbia, only 150lbs, but his 3rd year in the WHL he had more points than the first 2 combined with almost a third of the games played. The 7th rd. dman was Wyatt Kaiser's teammate at Minn-Duluth. so they'll have the Blackhawks to talk about at college next season. |
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Post by jimakablkhwks918 on Jul 24, 2021 19:19:11 GMT -6
A friend of mine has a cousin with season tickets for the Raiders and he said Allan is a stud on D. Everything I've read about him sounds like a solid pick, regardless of when the reports projected him. That’s good to hear. Also, I wasn’t just ragging on Scambo. Just that not many make it from later rounds. Especially for the Hawks of late. But not many teams have a ton of 4th round picks on their team!!! I think he looks back at the 2010 team and thinks it's easy-peasy to have a bunch of sub 3rd round picks like Byfuglien and Burish and Hjalmarsson and Brouwer be significant contributors. Stan and company need to realize they aren't a shadow of Mike Smith and company. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 24, 2021 19:39:37 GMT -6
this is sappy as all hell but it's definitely now totally hawk related so...
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Post by tincup on Jul 24, 2021 20:14:09 GMT -6
this is sappy as all hell but it's definitely now totally hawk related so... I have a couple of brothers and I get along with both of them totally fine, but even if someday either or both had to do the eulogy at my funeral I doubt I’d get anything so saccharine. They might feel it but they’d never say it out loud. But that’s my family. Good on Kirby’s for being more open. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 24, 2021 20:17:24 GMT -6
this is sappy as all hell but it's definitely now totally hawk related so... I have a couple of brothers and I get along with both of them totally fine, but even if someday either or both had to do the eulogy at my funeral I doubt I’d get anything so saccharine. They might feel it but they’d never say it out loud. But that’s my family. Good on Kirby’s for being more open. what i was thinking. i might tell my brothers (or sister) something like that if i was on my deathbed but would likely regret it once they left the room. : D |
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Post by Tater on Jul 24, 2021 23:22:34 GMT -6
exactly what i was thinking. i might tell my brothers (or sister) something like that if i was on my deathbed but would likely regret it once they left the room. : D I haven't seen or spoken to my brother in 25+ years. That was a nice video though. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 25, 2021 2:55:55 GMT -6
But, just like all the other drafts. Very few make it from these rounds. Especially for Scambo. He hasn’t hit on many, and it looks like he must have watched at least one playoff game this year. There’s a lot of size in the playoffs. The small so called skilled dmen experiment failed. Miserably. So I wouldn’t put to much into these later draft pics too much, just like every year!!! Guys on NHL radio said an average of 54 kids from every draft play 200 games or more in the NHL and it's good to see SB has finally found size to be an advantage.........what did it take him? Twelve years? I just didn’t understand how he didn’t understand the game of hockey? The guy avoided size, toughness and Canadians pretty much for the last 5 years. I mean, you can do that, but it won’t pan out. Imagine having a GM that won’t draft Euros? I’m sure that doesn’t end well. I think he needs to be fired. He’s still trying to learn on the job, and his work as a whole is rancid. His Jones trade reminds me of a desperate GM trying to hold onto his job. I really do think one more bad year and he’s gone. Or he’ll be moved to sit with his old man as a special advisor!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 25, 2021 8:35:04 GMT -6
Guys on NHL radio said an average of 54 kids from every draft play 200 games or more in the NHL and it's good to see SB has finally found size to be an advantage.........what did it take him? Twelve years? I just didn’t understand how he didn’t understand the game of hockey? The guy avoided size, toughness and Canadians pretty much for the last 5 years. I mean, you can do that, but it won’t pan out. Imagine having a GM that won’t draft Euros? I’m sure that doesn’t end well. I think he needs to be fired. He’s still trying to learn on the job, and his work as a whole is rancid. His Jones trade reminds me of a desperate GM trying to hold onto his job. I really do think one more bad year and he’s gone. Or he’ll be moved to sit with his old man as a special advisor!!! He went through the US fad in the first round with Schmaltz and Hartman(both gone)and the Euro fad with TT,Joker and Boqvist(all three gone)and now somebody told him to draft CHL kids with size.......let's hope they're the right CHL kids with size and not just another fad. bleacherreport.com/articles/2946290-2021-nhl-draft-live-round-1-grades-for-every-pick |
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Post by BigT on Jul 25, 2021 9:00:58 GMT -6
I just didn’t understand how he didn’t understand the game of hockey? The guy avoided size, toughness and Canadians pretty much for the last 5 years. I mean, you can do that, but it won’t pan out. Imagine having a GM that won’t draft Euros? I’m sure that doesn’t end well. I think he needs to be fired. He’s still trying to learn on the job, and his work as a whole is rancid. His Jones trade reminds me of a desperate GM trying to hold onto his job. I really do think one more bad year and he’s gone. Or he’ll be moved to sit with his old man as a special advisor!!! He went through the US fad in the first round with Schmaltz and Hartman(both gone)and the Euro fad with TT,Joker and Boqvist(all three gone)and now somebody told him to draft CHL kids with size.......let's hope they're the right CHL kids with size and not just another fad. bleacherreport.com/articles/2946290-2021-nhl-draft-live-round-1-grades-for-every-pickNow the new fad is to try and find brothers. There’s always something. Let’s hope he doesn’t get a chance to move on to twins!!! |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 25, 2021 9:07:19 GMT -6
Now the new fad is to try and find brothers. There’s always something. Let’s hope he doesn’t get a chance to move on to twins!!! Or sons of former NHLers. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 25, 2021 9:12:35 GMT -6
Now the new fad is to try and find brothers. There’s always something. Let’s hope he doesn’t get a chance to move on to twins!!! Or sons of former NHLers. You should erase that. What if he reads this? Can’t give a desperate fool too many ideas now!!! |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 25, 2021 9:18:19 GMT -6
But, just like all the other drafts. Very few make it from these rounds. Especially for Scambo. He hasn’t hit on many, and it looks like he must have watched at least one playoff game this year. There’s a lot of size in the playoffs. The small so called skilled dmen experiment failed. Miserably. So I wouldn’t put to much into these later draft pics too much, just like every year!!! Guys on NHL radio said an average of 54 kids from every draft play 200 games or more in the NHL and it's good to see SB has finally found size to be an advantage.........what did it take him? Twelve years? McNeil, Knott, Bondra, Radke, etc were busts and then he went with smaller faster guys, that didn't work out either, hopefully he learned they have to have a good head on their shoulders and not just size and good abilities. Dach really impressed me during his combine and answering questions from GMs and scouts, plus his interviews after the draft showed his maturity. Now we'll see how the bigger guys drafted after the 1st round since the Dach draft pan out. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 25, 2021 9:20:26 GMT -6
Or sons of former NHLers. You should erase that. What if he reads this? Can’t give a desperate fool too many ideas now!!! He already started with Murphy, Nylander, and Stillman, was hoping for Sillinger this draft. |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 25, 2021 9:49:34 GMT -6
Guys on NHL radio said an average of 54 kids from every draft play 200 games or more in the NHL and it's good to see SB has finally found size to be an advantage.........what did it take him? Twelve years? McNeil, Knott, Bondra, Radke, etc were busts and then he went with smaller faster guys, that didn't work out either, hopefully he learned they have to have a good head on their shoulders and not just size and good abilities. Dach really impressed me during his combine and answering questions from GMs and scouts, plus his interviews after the draft showed his maturity. Now we'll see how the bigger guys drafted after the 1st round since the Dach draft pan out. After clamoring for size,I'd be disingenuous not to notice more size being added the last two drafts but SB is fortunate to have the opportunity to change course after such poor performance over the last 3-4 years IMO. A LOT of 1st round draft capitol was spent on four kids who were supposed to fill the cupboards with top four potential D-men and now two are gone and the other two look more and more meh as more D-men are added and we're still paying unforced errors from two summers ago Shaw,Maata and deHAAN-job not to mention Brent 'buyout' Connolly @3.5MX2 last spring......very fortunate indeed! Passed up some high quality,young players to draft those 1st round D-men too! I want to give a lot of credit to you and others for staying positive in the face of all this.....I really do! |
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Post by tincup on Jul 25, 2021 9:49:53 GMT -6
You should erase that. What if he reads this? Can’t give a desperate fool too many ideas now!!! He already started with Murphy, Nylander, and Stillman, was hoping for Sillinger this draft. I wonder what the plan would have been if the Jones trade hadn’t happened. I liked Sillinger at #11 as well, or Svechkov was my other hope. Who was on the Hawks radar there, I wonder if we ever find out. |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 25, 2021 10:05:01 GMT -6
You should erase that. What if he reads this? Can’t give a desperate fool too many ideas now!!! He already started with Murphy, Nylander, and Stillman, was hoping for Sillinger this draft. Columbus took him with the pick they got from us and got a grade A for doing so. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 25, 2021 10:12:01 GMT -6
He already started with Murphy, Nylander, and Stillman, was hoping for Sillinger this draft. I wonder what the plan would have been if the Jones trade hadn’t happened. I liked Sillinger at #11 as well, or Svechkov was my other hope. Who was on the Hawks radar there, I wonder if we ever find out. We'll probably find out with "On the clock". |
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