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Post by acesandeights on May 28, 2021 9:52:25 GMT -6
I have a side question about the Swedish goalie. This is more out of curiosity and not that the Hawks might look at him, but I keep seeing him going high in the 1st in mocks.
Granted they are mocks and I don't remember how recent, but so far, I've seen Wallstedt going 5th, 6th, 10th, and 13th.
Askarov went 11th last year. Is Wallstedt on Askarov's level, or close to it?
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Post by vadarx on May 28, 2021 17:18:19 GMT -6
I have a side question about the Swedish goalie. This is more out of curiosity and not that the Hawks might look at him, but I keep seeing him going high in the 1st in mocks. Granted they are mocks and I don't remember how recent, but so far, I've seen Wallstedt going 5th, 6th, 10th, and 13th. Askarov went 11th last year. Is Wallstedt on Askarov's level, or close to it? funny, I was reading up on him last night. from what I've read, he sounds the part. started 28 games in the SHL last season at 18 years old. no other goaltender under 19 started a single game in the league... IF he dropped to 11th, I wonder if Bowman would consider him? |
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Post by BigT on May 28, 2021 22:07:15 GMT -6
I say no to a tendy in the 1st round. We need positional players baaasaad.
I think defense is the position of need. If we can get Clarke or one of those top 4-5 dmen. I say do it.
My priority right now would be this....
1)McTavish..... maybe even move up
2) Clarke
3) Raty
Obviously I’d take Edvinsson or someone else like that if available. I feel McTavish may be around at 8-11. But we’ll see!!!
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Post by vadarx on May 28, 2021 22:49:20 GMT -6
I say no to a tendy in the 1st round. We need positional players baaasaad. I think defense is the position of need. If we can get Clarke or one of those top 4-5 dmen. I say do it. My priority right now would be this.... 1)McTavish..... maybe even move up 2) Clarke 3) Raty Obviously I’d take Edvinsson or someone else like that if available. I feel McTavish may be around at 8-11. But we’ll see!!! we need everything bad, imo. I think you take the player that you believe is the best player. if that is the 'tender, then so be it. not to mention, we are at the beginning of a rebuild. having a franchise goalie step in in 2-3 years would be a nice thing to have going for us. also, iirc, the talk after the draft last year was the 'hawks tried to move up to get Askarov but couldn't. maybe they consider this kid this year? one thing to add on Wallstedt, I've seen him going to the wangs in multiple mocks. |
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Post by BigT on May 29, 2021 7:26:49 GMT -6
I say no to a tendy in the 1st round. We need positional players baaasaad. I think defense is the position of need. If we can get Clarke or one of those top 4-5 dmen. I say do it. My priority right now would be this.... 1)McTavish..... maybe even move up 2) Clarke 3) Raty Obviously I’d take Edvinsson or someone else like that if available. I feel McTavish may be around at 8-11. But we’ll see!!! we need everything bad, imo. I think you take the player that you believe is the best player. if that is the 'tender, then so be it. not to mention, we are at the beginning of a rebuild. having a franchise goalie step in in 2-3 years would be a nice thing to have going for us. also, iirc, the talk after the draft last year was the 'hawks tried to move up to get Askarov but couldn't. maybe they consider this kid this year? one thing to add on Wallstedt, I've him going to the wangs in multiple mocks. Goalies usually take till their 25. If they come in earlier cool. But it’s not really normal to see a goalie under 25. It’s all mental, it’s very tough to play time and time again in the farm. But it’s good for their psyche to stay out of the national league till their ready mentally. I doubt Stan is here when that tendy makes any type of impact. GMs that are past their due date like scam won’t do what’s right. He doesn’t care about the the org, he cares about scamming more and just keeping control of this team. My best guess is that Scam will go for a smaller type that has high end skill and he’s gonna hope that he can turn into Kane part 2. Even if Rychel turns into a decent player, he’s not going to make a serious impact for another few years. Same with the kid drafted this year it makes no sense to keep Toews and Kane around just to fill seats. I fully understand the business side, I run my own business too. Like the old adage, “every time you bend down to pick up a dime, a dollar falls out of your pocket”. However, constantly hoping for a total home run in the draft is literally bending down to pick up a dime and hoping they add up. Even Dcat has been good up until now. But we can all agree it wasn’t until his 4th year that he looked like a well rounded player. Same will be with the newer kids. This rebuild is a scam, by scam Bowman. He’s just trying to free up cap space to try and take a run at her again. Let’s not fool ourselves. He has over 11 million to spend and he will. He will trade away youth for a quick fix again. Just watch!!! |
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Post by acesandeights on May 29, 2021 8:53:12 GMT -6
I say no to a tendy in the 1st round. We need positional players baaasaad. I think defense is the position of need. If we can get Clarke or one of those top 4-5 dmen. I say do it. My priority right now would be this.... 1)McTavish..... maybe even move up 2) Clarke 3) Raty Obviously I’d take Edvinsson or someone else like that if available. I feel McTavish may be around at 8-11. But we’ll see!!! I think you take the player that you believe is the best player. if that is the 'tender, then so be it. not to mention, we are at the beginning of a rebuild. having a franchise goalie step in in 2-3 years would be a nice thing to have going for us. also, iirc, the talk after the draft last year was the 'hawks tried to move up to get Askarov but couldn't. maybe they consider this kid this year? one thing to add on Wallstedt, I've him going to the wangs in multiple mocks. Remember the old saying "It would be funny if it wasn't true." They need good players all over. On trying to move up to get Askarov, I saw a video last year where Mark Kelley said Stan talked to Nashville that picked 11th, plus the two teams that picked right after them but none of them had much interest. I'm sure Nashville wasn't going to pass up a chance to get Askarov. I'd agree the Hawks should look at who they have as the best player. And who the Hawks have as the " best player" on their board is the one that matters. |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 2, 2021 17:11:28 GMT -6
too bad they couldn't find a #19 sweater to hang up in the background to support their ailing Captain...
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Post by vadarx on Jun 2, 2021 17:17:14 GMT -6
11th it is
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 2, 2021 18:39:07 GMT -6
today's useless factoid o' the day. 1 hit out of 3 isn't very good for a #11 pick. hopefully we can move to .500 after this next draft. |
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Post by tincup on Jun 2, 2021 20:45:31 GMT -6
So Buffalo gets #1, has Owen Power asked for a trade yet?
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Post by vadarx on Jun 2, 2021 21:53:51 GMT -6
So Buffalo gets #1, has Owen Power asked for a trade yet? 😅 hey, they'll get it right eventually there, eh? may as well be part of the solution. they got plenty of young guys and there's gonna be more coming when the trade Eichel. get in there now and be a leader when the team has improved..... ...that's the idea anyway, right? every team needs their Seabrook. |
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Post by BigT on Jun 2, 2021 22:04:50 GMT -6
Hopefully they can land McTavish, Clarke or Raty in that order. I think the need on D may be greater. Does anyone think for one minute Buffalo trades that pick? I was a little harsh at first on Owen Power in the Worlds. But I must admit the kid has been a stud at 18 there. He looks every bit a stud dman. And he’s on a shit team. Maybe they bite for Boqvist and our #11? They love kids like Boqvist too. We need size and Power has that and the overall game!!!
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Post by vadarx on Jun 2, 2021 22:33:56 GMT -6
Hopefully they can land McTavish, Clarke or Raty in that order. I think the need on D may be greater. Does anyone think for one minute Buffalo trades that pick? I was a little harsh at first on Owen Power in the Worlds. But I must admit the kid has been a stud at 18 there. He looks every bit a stud dman. And he’s on a shit team. Maybe they bite for Boqvist and our #11? They love kids like Boqvist too. We need size and Power has that and the overall game!!! lol, no way are they trading that pick for Boqvist unless we include at least another first round pick, and even that wouldn't be enough. |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 2, 2021 22:47:01 GMT -6
Hopefully they can land McTavish, Clarke or Raty in that order. I think the need on D may be greater. Does anyone think for one minute Buffalo trades that pick? I was a little harsh at first on Owen Power in the Worlds. But I must admit the kid has been a stud at 18 there. He looks every bit a stud dman. And he’s on a shit team. Maybe they bite for Boqvist and our #11? They love kids like Boqvist too. We need size and Power has that and the overall game!!! McTavish would be cool with me. Clarke will be long gone. Raty I am iffy on. I dunno if you take that chance. |
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Post by nighbor on Jun 2, 2021 22:47:39 GMT -6
today's useless factoid o' the day. 1 hit out of 3 isn't very good for a #11 pick. hopefully we can move to .500 after this next draft. Hank Williams JR song One Out of Three Ain't Bad. The great thing about these picks is they were picked by 3 different GM's and Stan was not one of them. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 2, 2021 23:07:48 GMT -6
today's useless factoid o' the day. 1 hit out of 3 isn't very good for a #11 pick. hopefully we can move to .500 after this next draft. Hank Williams JR song One Out of Three Ain't Bad. . i'd prefer Meatloaf over Hank Jr., when it comes to our #11s. : ) |
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Post by T-man2010 on Jun 3, 2021 5:34:09 GMT -6
Hopefully they can land McTavish, Clarke or Raty in that order. I think the need on D may be greater. Does anyone think for one minute Buffalo trades that pick? I was a little harsh at first on Owen Power in the Worlds. But I must admit the kid has been a stud at 18 there. He looks every bit a stud dman. And he’s on a shit team. Maybe they bite for Boqvist and our #11? They love kids like Boqvist too. We need size and Power has that and the overall game!!! I don't see many teams wanting Boqvist now. Even him being young and all. He's now getting a rep for concussion injuries. What's he got now? 2-3 of them? He has shown some offensive flashes, but way too few of them. |
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Post by BigT on Jun 3, 2021 6:28:06 GMT -6
Hopefully they can land McTavish, Clarke or Raty in that order. I think the need on D may be greater. Does anyone think for one minute Buffalo trades that pick? I was a little harsh at first on Owen Power in the Worlds. But I must admit the kid has been a stud at 18 there. He looks every bit a stud dman. And he’s on a shit team. Maybe they bite for Boqvist and our #11? They love kids like Boqvist too. We need size and Power has that and the overall game!!! I don't see many teams wanting Boqvist now. Even him being young and all. He's now getting a rep for concussion injuries. What's he got now? 2-3 of them? He has shown some offensive flashes, but way too few of them. I’ll be honest. I just want him gone!!! |
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Post by LordKOTL on Jun 3, 2021 7:46:34 GMT -6
Hopefully they can land McTavish, Clarke or Raty in that order. I think the need on D may be greater. Does anyone think for one minute Buffalo trades that pick? I was a little harsh at first on Owen Power in the Worlds. But I must admit the kid has been a stud at 18 there. He looks every bit a stud dman. And he’s on a shit team. Maybe they bite for Boqvist and our #11? They love kids like Boqvist too. We need size and Power has that and the overall game!!! The need on D has been greater since 2016. This is nothing new. As for the pick itself...yeah...I'm not getting a warm fuzzy feeling with slot 11. The last time the 'hawks had a good pick at 11 people were doing the Super Bowl Shuffle. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 3, 2021 8:05:35 GMT -6
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Post by T-man2010 on Jun 3, 2021 8:10:07 GMT -6
So it shows he's going to Yale next year. So we wait another 2 years at least of college then 2 more at Rockford? |
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Post by jacksalmon on Jun 4, 2021 8:25:36 GMT -6
today's useless factoid o' the day. 1 hit out of 3 isn't very good for a #11 pick. hopefully we can move to .500 after this next draft. It is not useless. It explains why it is hard to get excited about a #11 pick and why it is so difficult to rebuild a team. Drafting guys like Kane and Toews happens once in a lifetime. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Jun 4, 2021 10:56:48 GMT -6
From the Sporting News Mock Draft, for whatever it is worth:
"Chicago Blackhawks: Sebastian Cossa, G, Edmonton Oil Kings (WHL)
While they miss out on the Wallstedt sweepstakes, the Blackhawks get a very promising consolation prize. The WHL netminder has NHL size at 6-6 and was practically perfect throughout the shortened 2020-21 season. Chicago has some excellent skaters in their system, but they lack a goalie of the future. Cossa could be the answer."
Personally, I have no opinion as I have no idea how good/bad Cossa is. I have a hard enough time keeping up with NHL personnel let alone the Juniors, AHL and European personnel I rely on you posters for all that info. Have at it.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 4, 2021 16:16:48 GMT -6
From the Sporting News Mock Draft, for whatever it is worth: "Chicago Blackhawks: Sebastian Cossa, G, Edmonton Oil Kings (WHL) While they miss out on the Wallstedt sweepstakes, the Blackhawks get a very promising consolation prize. The WHL netminder has NHL size at 6-6 and was practically perfect throughout the shortened 2020-21 season. Chicago has some excellent skaters in their system, but they lack a goalie of the future. Cossa could be the answer." Personally, I have no opinion as I have no idea how good/bad Cossa is. I have a hard enough time keeping with NHL personnel let alone the Juniors and AHL personnel I rely on you posters for all that info. Have at it. I haven't familiarized myself with him too much, but he is the #2 'tender in the draft in every ranking I've seen. big kid, likely he goes late first or early/mid second. if the wings take a skater with their first pick, I could see them taking him with their second first rounder (but I think they take Wallstedt). I really doubt the 'hawks take him at 11. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 4, 2021 16:29:16 GMT -6
From the Sporting News Mock Draft, for whatever it is worth: "Chicago Blackhawks: Sebastian Cossa, G, Edmonton Oil Kings (WHL) While they miss out on the Wallstedt sweepstakes, the Blackhawks get a very promising consolation prize. The WHL netminder has NHL size at 6-6 and was practically perfect throughout the shortened 2020-21 season. Chicago has some excellent skaters in their system, but they lack a goalie of the future. Cossa could be the answer." Personally, I have no opinion as I have no idea how good/bad Cossa is. I have a hard enough time keeping with NHL personnel let alone the Juniors and AHL personnel I rely on you posters for all that info. Have at it. I haven't familiarized myself with him too much, but he is the #2 'tender in the draft in every ranking I've seen. big kid, likely he goes late first or early/mid second. if the wings take a skater with their first pick, I could see them taking him with their second first rounder (but I think they take Wallstedt). I really doubt the 'hawks take him at 11. He's very intriguing but yeah, not at 11. If he's available near the end of the 1st Stan should make a trade to get him. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 4, 2021 16:31:18 GMT -6
If Fabian Lysel is there at 11 he should be on the Hawks list. Might be the best offensive player in the draft, he's very fast with hands and IQ to match.
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Post by T-man2010 on Jun 4, 2021 16:49:32 GMT -6
If Fabian Lysel is there at 11 he should be on the Hawks list. Might be the best offensive player in the draft, he's very fast with hands and IQ to match. That cross's him off SB list. |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 4, 2021 17:04:10 GMT -6
If Fabian Lysel is there at 11 he should be on the Hawks list. Might be the best offensive player in the draft, he's very fast with hands and IQ to match. thus far I've seen Lysel, Coronato, McTavish, and Sillinger taken by the 'hawks at 11. well, I've seen a couple other names too, but they seemed like one-offs. I think we will see the draft board change over and over again before July, though. I can't state how badly I want Wallstedt to drop to us. he is the player I want the most right now, tbh, and I KNOW the fucking wangs will take him and turn him into Vasilevskiy 2.0... |
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Post by tincup on Jun 4, 2021 17:29:24 GMT -6
If Fabian Lysel is there at 11 he should be on the Hawks list. Might be the best offensive player in the draft, he's very fast with hands and IQ to match. thus far I've seen Lysel, Coronato, McTavish, and Sillinger taken by the 'hawks at 11. well, I've seen a couple other names too, but they seemed like one-offs. I think we will see the draft board change over and over again before July, though. I can't state how badly I want Wallstedt to drop to us. he is the player I want the most right now, tbh, and I KNOW the fucking wangs will take him and turn him into Vasilevskiy 2.0... I still can’t believe what Yzerman got for Mantha. So they can take the goalie and still get a usable player a few picks later. Columbus has three first round picks although one is going to be pretty deep. Surely we have some chaff in the system to entice them and get that Leaf pick off of them. This isn’t the draft where we get high end talent, maybe that’s in the next couple of drafts, but the right picks here could or should get the quality support players we’ll also need. That’s why I’m liking the most talented players that also have the words “hard working”, “no quit” and “tenacity” in their draft profile. Guys like McTavish, Sillinger, Coronato or maybe even Fyodor Svechkov, one of the outliers you might have been talking about. |
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Post by BigT on Jun 4, 2021 18:26:35 GMT -6
thus far I've seen Lysel, Coronato, McTavish, and Sillinger taken by the 'hawks at 11. well, I've seen a couple other names too, but they seemed like one-offs. I think we will see the draft board change over and over again before July, though. I can't state how badly I want Wallstedt to drop to us. he is the player I want the most right now, tbh, and I KNOW the fucking wangs will take him and turn him into Vasilevskiy 2.0... I still can’t believe what Yzerman got for Mantha. So they can take the goalie and still get a usable player a few picks later. Columbus has three first round picks although one is going to be pretty deep. Surely we have some chaff in the system to entice them and get that Leaf pick off of them. This isn’t the draft where we get high end talent, maybe that’s in the next couple of drafts, but the right picks here could or should get the quality support players we’ll also need. That’s why I’m liking the most talented players that also have the words “hard working”, “no quit” and “tenacity” in their draft profile. Guys like McTavish, Sillinger, Coronato or maybe even Fyodor Svechkov, one of the outliers you might have been talking about. I’d say McTavish should be the kid unless he’s gone. I don’t think he’ll ever be top 20 in league scoring. But he may be that Bolland type player that kicks ass. We need role players and secondary scoring. We need NHL players. Picking at 11 in a weaker maybe unknown draft, probably not gonna get a future hall of Famer. But, we can get a useful player that can be ready in a year or so. Another smaller kid going the US college route is just depressing beyond belief. I don’t mind a kid going for a year. But when they stay for 3 years it barely pans out. I’d rather them head to Rockford after one year. They can always return to college if it doesn’t really pan out. So at this point I’d hope McTavish is the guy. He seems almost like a Mike Richards type player. A heat and soul guy. He’ll never lead your team in scoring, but he leads in many other ways!!! |
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