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Post by vadarx on Jul 17, 2021 0:58:59 GMT -6
one week to go before round one...
new mock on the Athletic has the 'hawks taking Wallstedt. Cossa goes one before him to Ottawa... in said mock, they took Wallstedt over Coronato, Sillinger, and Lucius...
in the comments, Pronman said he thinks Coronato is the guy if they pass on a goalie, but that he has heard from a lot of local guys that the 'hawks are looking hard at a goalie...
I still kinda like Lucius or Sillinger better than Coronato, but I'd be good with any of those three, personally. feels like Sillinger's wheels and Lucius having his injury are moving them down... I have zero hope that McTavish is there at 11 at this point...
I've not gone much past the second round guys, so I can't comment on anyone past that round, but I am hoping Morrow drops to us for our first pick in the second round. he sounds like he could be a good get at 43.
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Post by vadarx on Jul 17, 2021 1:01:42 GMT -6
seeing as he is a Spitfire, any comments on Wyatt Johnston, T?
I've seen him going in the first, second, and third so far. seemed like the first was a reach, but he could be around in the second.
should we take him?
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Post by BigT on Jul 17, 2021 8:42:07 GMT -6
seeing as he is a Spitfire, any comments on Wyatt Johnston, T? I've seen him going in the first, second, and third so far. seemed like the first was a reach, but he could be around in the second. should we take him? I don’t know about a 1st rounder on him. He’s another kid I feel for. He didn’t get a chance in his draft year to showcase himself. If he had the opportunity to do so, maybe he gets over a point per game and looks like a solid player? He’s one of those kids that could drop to 2nd or even the 3rd round this year. Kids that have a first year of roughly 30 points. Usually they end up getting more than double in their second year. So, he’s worth a shot. He’ll have two more full years of OHL and be able to develop. We’ll see soon enough. I don’t think Scambo goes to the OHL very much. I think he’s on his knee kick, going for Germans, or even now Swiss players. He always has to think he’s ahead of the curve. And it never ever works out. Always take the best player, and then with other picks fill out your positional needs!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 17, 2021 8:56:51 GMT -6
seeing as he is a Spitfire, any comments on Wyatt Johnston, T? I've seen him going in the first, second, and third so far. seemed like the first was a reach, but he could be around in the second. should we take him? I don’t know about a 1st rounder on him. He’s another kid I feel for. He didn’t get a chance in his draft year to showcase himself. If he had the opportunity to do so, maybe he gets over a point per game and looks like a solid player? He’s one of those kids that could drop to 2nd or even the 3rd round this year. Kids that have a first year of roughly 30 points. Usually they end up getting more than double in their second year. So, he’s worth a shot. He’ll have two more full years of OHL and be able to develop. We’ll see soon enough. I don’t think Scambo goes to the OHL very much. I think he’s on his knee kick, going for Germans, or even now Swiss players. He always has to think he’s ahead of the curve. And it never ever works out. Always take the best player, and then with other picks fill out your positional needs!!! I gotcha. any scouting report on him? he sounds like a guy that may have gone higher if there had been a season last year, as you said. I expect Bowman to stick to NA for round 1 unless a guy like Eklund falls to 11 or they decide Wallstedt is the way of the future (and is available at 11)... |
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Post by BigT on Jul 17, 2021 9:05:36 GMT -6
I don’t know about a 1st rounder on him. He’s another kid I feel for. He didn’t get a chance in his draft year to showcase himself. If he had the opportunity to do so, maybe he gets over a point per game and looks like a solid player? He’s one of those kids that could drop to 2nd or even the 3rd round this year. Kids that have a first year of roughly 30 points. Usually they end up getting more than double in their second year. So, he’s worth a shot. He’ll have two more full years of OHL and be able to develop. We’ll see soon enough. I don’t think Scambo goes to the OHL very much. I think he’s on his knee kick, going for Germans, or even now Swiss players. He always has to think he’s ahead of the curve. And it never ever works out. Always take the best player, and then with other picks fill out your positional needs!!! I gotcha. any scouting report on him? he sounds like a guy that may have gone higher if there had been a season last year, as you said. I expect Bowman to stick to NA for round 1 unless a guy like Eklund falls to 11 or they decide Wallstedt is the way of the future (and is available at 11)... Here’s a decent write up on him!!! thehockeywriters.com/wyatt-johnston-2021-nhl-draft-prospect-profile/ |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 17, 2021 10:26:13 GMT -6
seeing as he is a Spitfire, any comments on Wyatt Johnston, T? I've seen him going in the first, second, and third so far. seemed like the first was a reach, but he could be around in the second. should we take him? I don’t know about a 1st rounder on him. He’s another kid I feel for. He didn’t get a chance in his draft year to showcase himself. If he had the opportunity to do so, maybe he gets over a point per game and looks like a solid player? He’s one of those kids that could drop to 2nd or even the 3rd round this year. Kids that have a first year of roughly 30 points. Usually they end up getting more than double in their second year. So, he’s worth a shot. He’ll have two more full years of OHL and be able to develop. We’ll see soon enough. I don’t think Scambo goes to the OHL very much. I think he’s on his knee kick, going for Germans, or even now Swiss players. He always has to think he’s ahead of the curve. And it never ever works out. Always take the best player, and then with other picks fill out your positional needs!!! He's been drafting more CHL players the past few years, Phillips from the OHL last draft, who looked good as an 18yr old playing in the AHL. 6'8" Crevier from the last draft plays in the QMJHL and could be a sleeper pick like Buff. But I don't mind taking Germans or Swiss players because defensively they remind me of North Americans. Plus they can play in the AHL right away, unlike CHL players, minus this covid season of course. |
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Post by acesandeights on Jul 18, 2021 8:37:24 GMT -6
seeing as he is a Spitfire, any comments on Wyatt Johnston, T? I've seen him going in the first, second, and third so far. seemed like the first was a reach, but he could be around in the second. should we take him? I don’t know about a 1st rounder on him. He’s another kid I feel for. He didn’t get a chance in his draft year to showcase himself. If he had the opportunity to do so, maybe he gets over a point per game and looks like a solid player? He’s one of those kids that could drop to 2nd or even the 3rd round this year. Kids that have a first year of roughly 30 points. Usually they end up getting more than double in their second year. So, he’s worth a shot. He’ll have two more full years of OHL and be able to develop. We’ll see soon enough. I don’t think Scambo goes to the OHL very much. I think he’s on his knee kick, going for Germans, or even now Swiss players. He always has to think he’s ahead of the curve. And it never ever works out. Always take the best player, and then with other picks fill out your positional needs!!!When your a team that's lacking in talent, and depth, that's a practical and common sense approach. |
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Post by nighbor on Jul 18, 2021 10:28:43 GMT -6
I don’t know about a 1st rounder on him. He’s another kid I feel for. He didn’t get a chance in his draft year to showcase himself. If he had the opportunity to do so, maybe he gets over a point per game and looks like a solid player? He’s one of those kids that could drop to 2nd or even the 3rd round this year. Kids that have a first year of roughly 30 points. Usually they end up getting more than double in their second year. So, he’s worth a shot. He’ll have two more full years of OHL and be able to develop. We’ll see soon enough. I don’t think Scambo goes to the OHL very much. I think he’s on his knee kick, going for Germans, or even now Swiss players. He always has to think he’s ahead of the curve. And it never ever works out. Always take the best player, and then with other picks fill out your positional needs!!!When your a team that's lacking in talent, and depth, that's a practical and common sense approach. I am happy that you agree with Stan's approach. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 18, 2021 10:59:11 GMT -6
When your a team that's lacking in talent, and depth, that's a practical and common sense approach. I am happy that you agree with Stan's approach. Unfortunately, he rarely hits on NHL players and he’s had the most or 2nd most picks over the last decade. So this thing should a been rebuilt 3 times over with some bullets to spare. He just sucks at his job. And we’re gonna find out real soon if he sucks as a human too!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 19, 2021 8:30:53 GMT -6
When your a team that's lacking in talent, and depth, that's a practical and common sense approach. I am happy that you agree with Stan's approach. I'll ask a few questions out of honest curiosity and with respect for your opinion.... Do you believe the team is beginning a rebuild,in the middle of a rebuild or nearly done with their rebuild? What do you expect from the team next year and the one after as far as record? You seem to be one of the most positive and supportive of the FO as far as members here and I'm interested in your perspective. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 19, 2021 16:32:35 GMT -6
Bob McKenzie’s final draft rankings are out tonight on TSN. It’ll be interesting to see who he has where. We’re edging closer to the draft, and once the expansion draft is out of the way, I feel there’ll be a ton of movement!!!
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jul 19, 2021 17:10:59 GMT -6
Thats the word on the street. Gonna be some wins and losses for teams, hoping for a couple entertaining days.
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Post by BigT on Jul 19, 2021 18:51:04 GMT -6
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Post by tincup on Jul 19, 2021 19:11:21 GMT -6
Sillinger at #11, played his rookie season with Medicine Hat, was the fourth leading rookie scorer where Michal Teply was first. A nice consolation prize. This draft is going to be one that’s revisited I think, it might even be deeper then at first thought. Why I’m not a fan of trading picks away. I also see Josh Doan has jumped a couple of rounds #66, an overage with good bloodlines. If he slips from there he’d be a nice third round choice, even if he’s committed to college.
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Post by vadarx on Jul 19, 2021 20:16:20 GMT -6
Sillinger at #11, played his rookie season with Medicine Hat, was the fourth leading rookie scorer where Michal Teply was first. A nice consolation prize. This draft is going to be one that’s revisited I think, it might even be deeper then at first thought. Why I’m not a fan of trading picks away. I also see Josh Doan has jumped a couple of rounds #66, an overage with good bloodlines. If he slips from there he’d be a nice third round choice, even if he’s committed to college. unfortunately we do not have a third rounder this year... might have to look at him late in the second. I feel like Bowman goes with Coronato or a goalie at 11. I think Lucius is gone before then. I don't think they'll take Sillinger due to his skating and Coronato projects better in his own end. as of now I predict Wallstedt or Cossa unless one of them goes in the top 10. |
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Post by nighbor on Jul 20, 2021 0:30:13 GMT -6
I am happy that you agree with Stan's approach. I'll ask a few questions out of honest curiosity and with respect for your opinion.... Do you believe the team is beginning a rebuild,in the middle of a rebuild or nearly done with their rebuild? What do you expect from the team next year and the one after as far as record? You seem to be one of the most positive and supportive of the FO as far as members here and I'm interested in your perspective. The beginning of the rebuild began with Dach and we are in the early stages of our rebuild. Dach's so called lack of development has been blamed on Stan even though Stan did not give Dach a concussion in his rookie year nor did he fracture Dach's wrist before the start of his second. Even with the injury Dach ended up in the same ball park point wise as both Hughes and Kakko even though they were considered in a league of their own. If Dach was a dud what would you call Hughes and Kakko. Not signing Crawford speed up our rebuild because Lanks was rated behind Subban and Delia on our depth chart. It would have been terrible if Lanks had been left unprotected and drafted by Seattle. We now have a better understanding of what we have and I am hopeful some of these young players both d and forwards can form bonds and become a more cohesive unit. Over the next two seasons I expect to see a steady improvement. I expect to see Dach take a more leadership role. I expect to see Dach from the Bubble where he scored 6 points in 9 games the same number as DeBrincat. Instead of wins and loses our progress should be based on team play. as that iw what wins championships. |
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Post by tincup on Jul 20, 2021 1:03:45 GMT -6
Sillinger at #11, played his rookie season with Medicine Hat, was the fourth leading rookie scorer where Michal Teply was first. A nice consolation prize. This draft is going to be one that’s revisited I think, it might even be deeper then at first thought. Why I’m not a fan of trading picks away. I also see Josh Doan has jumped a couple of rounds #66, an overage with good bloodlines. If he slips from there he’d be a nice third round choice, even if he’s committed to college. unfortunately we do not have a third rounder this year... might have to look at him late in the second. I feel like Bowman goes with Coronato or a goalie at 11. I think Lucius is gone before then. I don't think they'll take Sillinger due to his skating and Coronato projects better in his own end. as of now I predict Wallstedt or Cossa unless one of them goes in the top 10. You’re right of course. Brain fart on my part. |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 20, 2021 4:05:15 GMT -6
I'll ask a few questions out of honest curiosity and with respect for your opinion.... Do you believe the team is beginning a rebuild,in the middle of a rebuild or nearly done with their rebuild? What do you expect from the team next year and the one after as far as record? You seem to be one of the most positive and supportive of the FO as far as members here and I'm interested in your perspective. The beginning of the rebuild began with Dach and we are in the early stages of our rebuild. Dach's so called lack of development has been blamed on Stan even though Stan did not give Dach a concussion in his rookie year nor did he fracture Dach's wrist before the start of his second. Even with the injury Dach ended up in the same ball park point wise as both Hughes and Kakko even though they were considered in a league of their own. If Dach was a dud what would you call Hughes and Kakko. Not signing Crawford speed up our rebuild because Lanks was rated behind Subban and Delia on our depth chart. It would have been terrible if Lanks had been left unprotected and drafted by Seattle. We now have a better understanding of what we have and I am hopeful some of these young players both d and forwards can form bonds and become a more cohesive unit. Over the next two seasons I expect to see a steady improvement. I expect to see Dach take a more leadership role. I expect to see Dach from the Bubble where he scored 6 points in 9 games the same number as DeBrincat. Instead of wins and loses our progress should be based on team play. as that iw what wins championships. I agree with the second paragraph. that is what I am most interested in this next season, along with individual progressions. I want to see if the team play gets any better, cuz if it doesn't, it is gonna be time to try a different approach... |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 20, 2021 6:45:58 GMT -6
you can likely scratch #35 logan mailloux from the list. he got into some trouble playing in sweden. he took a gal's photo while they were having sex (w/o her consent) and sent it to some of his team mates. silly bugger. |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 20, 2021 9:19:05 GMT -6
I'll ask a few questions out of honest curiosity and with respect for your opinion.... Do you believe the team is beginning a rebuild,in the middle of a rebuild or nearly done with their rebuild? What do you expect from the team next year and the one after as far as record? You seem to be one of the most positive and supportive of the FO as far as members here and I'm interested in your perspective. The beginning of the rebuild began with Dach and we are in the early stages of our rebuild. Dach's so called lack of development has been blamed on Stan even though Stan did not give Dach a concussion in his rookie year nor did he fracture Dach's wrist before the start of his second. Even with the injury Dach ended up in the same ball park point wise as both Hughes and Kakko even though they were considered in a league of their own. If Dach was a dud what would you call Hughes and Kakko. Not signing Crawford speed up our rebuild because Lanks was rated behind Subban and Delia on our depth chart. It would have been terrible if Lanks had been left unprotected and drafted by Seattle. We now have a better understanding of what we have and I am hopeful some of these young players both d and forwards can form bonds and become a more cohesive unit. Over the next two seasons I expect to see a steady improvement. I expect to see Dach take a more leadership role. I expect to see Dach from the Bubble where he scored 6 points in 9 games the same number as DeBrincat. Instead of wins and loses our progress should be based on team play. as that iw what wins championships. I needed jolt of positivity with the team and in general.....thanks! Dach's development is as much in the hands of JC as it is SB and I thought too much was a asked of the kid after what seemed like a fairly quick return after a serious injury but if the doc's say he's ready,you put him in. I think JT's return could help Dach and he's still a very talented,very young player who has shown all the necessary tools and improvements in his development like the bubble play you mentioned. I'd still like to see him slotted against lesser centers and work his way up,it'd be good for his confidence at the dot. I was as big a fan of Lankinen as anyone after his WC performance and the staff slotting him behind the other two was missed assessment IMO. I know the other two had some games under their belts but Lanks was the better GT by far(and I said so)and he just needed the opportunity. I believe a year with CC would have done Lanks a lot more good than a year with two mediocre back-ups. A vet goaltender to talk with and compare notes with helps younger goaltenders IMO and CC coulda took about half the starts and some of the tougher starts to keep the kid confident. A large number of rookies did see time last year and I'd like to see Beaudin and Mitchell get a lot more ice time but I'm not sure they will with the arrivals of Stillman and Jones. You're right about wins and losses not mattering as much as good player development,I hope management sees things the same way but I'm still not sure. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 20, 2021 12:49:53 GMT -6
you can likely scratch #35 logan mailloux from the list. he got into some trouble playing in sweden. he took a gal's photo while they were having sex (w/o her consent) and sent it to some of his team mates. silly bugger. Wow, that’s kinda good of the kid owning up to his mistakes. I’m not sure no one will not take him. I think he gets picked tbh. I’m not justifying what he did. I think it’s awesome he owned up to it. And he’s a boy being a boy and trying to show off with his buddies and got caught. He’s owned up and hopefully learned from this. Can’t take dirty pictures of someone who's not expecting!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 20, 2021 16:46:37 GMT -6
you can likely scratch #35 logan mailloux from the list. he got into some trouble playing in sweden. he took a gal's photo while they were having sex (w/o her consent) and sent it to some of his team mates. silly bugger. I was surprised he was on it, tbh. that dude ain't getting drafted by no one... |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 20, 2021 17:10:36 GMT -6
you can likely scratch #35 logan mailloux from the list. he got into some trouble playing in sweden. he took a gal's photo while they were having sex (w/o her consent) and sent it to some of his team mates. silly bugger. I was surprised he was on it, tbh. that dude ain't getting drafted by no one... 11 teams have publicly said he's off their draft lists. |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jul 20, 2021 21:47:42 GMT -6
Put in my 2 cents if Wallstedt is there I want him. if not Lucius. If I had any balls I would go with Svechkov, but I dont have any balls
Full disclosure I wanted Bouchard over Bo. and I also wanted Mercer last draft. They have to make some hay with the 2 picks in the second.
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Post by vadarx on Jul 20, 2021 22:19:54 GMT -6
Put in my 2 cents if Wallstedt is there I want him. if not Lucius. If I had any balls I would go with Svechkov, but I dont have any balls Full disclosure I wanted Bouchard over Bo. and I also wanted Mercer last draft. They have to make some hay with the 2 picks in the second. I hear ya on Svechkov, but I don't want to wait for him and I'm not sure how good he'll be offensively. |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 21, 2021 6:46:25 GMT -6
you can likely scratch #35 logan mailloux from the list. he got into some trouble playing in sweden. he took a gal's photo while they were having sex (w/o her consent) and sent it to some of his team mates. silly bugger. Wow, that’s kinda good of the kid owning up to his mistakes. I’m not sure no one will not take him. I think he gets picked tbh. I’m not justifying what he did. I think it’s awesome he owned up to it. And he’s a boy being a boy and trying to show off with his buddies and got caught. He’s owned up and hopefully learned from this. Can’t take dirty pictures of someone who's not expecting!!! Yeah he's sorry.........he's sorry he got caught,what's he gonna say? I was a boy being a boy growing up and I'm sure you were too,I doubt either one of us ever considered doing something like this to a girl. Can't take dirty pictures of someone who's not expecting it is correct,what's more damaging is disseminating those pictures with others. Imagine the damage done to the young girl.....kid should be in jail! |
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Post by BigT on Jul 21, 2021 7:51:33 GMT -6
Wow, that’s kinda good of the kid owning up to his mistakes. I’m not sure no one will not take him. I think he gets picked tbh. I’m not justifying what he did. I think it’s awesome he owned up to it. And he’s a boy being a boy and trying to show off with his buddies and got caught. He’s owned up and hopefully learned from this. Can’t take dirty pictures of someone who's not expecting!!! Yeah he's sorry.........he's sorry he got caught,what's he gonna say? I was a boy being a boy growing up and I'm sure you were too,I doubt either one of us ever considered doing something like this to a girl. Can't take dirty pictures of someone who's not expecting it is correct,what's more damaging is disseminating those pictures with others. Imagine the damage done to the young girl.....kid should be in jail! It doesn’t look the best. We all see that. I think it’s bad, but I’m glad it was consensual and he just took it too far. A lot of other kids wouldn’t even put out that statement and act as if nothing went wrong. Let the kid try and prove himself and go back in the draft. I could tell you stories of guys that I know that played in the NHL, and did much worse than that. They should a been in jail, but due to their status they got off. I think the kid is at least trying to do the right thing by owning it and learning from it. It’s still wrong, no one is justifying it. Just hoping that the kid learns from this!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 21, 2021 8:18:23 GMT -6
Yeah he's sorry.........he's sorry he got caught,what's he gonna say? I was a boy being a boy growing up and I'm sure you were too,I doubt either one of us ever considered doing something like this to a girl. Can't take dirty pictures of someone who's not expecting it is correct,what's more damaging is disseminating those pictures with others. Imagine the damage done to the young girl.....kid should be in jail! It doesn’t look the best. We all see that. I think it’s bad, but I’m glad it was consensual and he just took it too far. A lot of other kids wouldn’t even put out that statement and act as if nothing went wrong. Let the kid try and prove himself and go back in the draft. I could tell you stories of guys that I know that played in the NHL, and did much worse than that. They should a been in jail, but due to their status they got off. I think the kid is at least trying to do the right thing by owning it and learning from it. It’s still wrong, no one is justifying it. Just hoping that the kid learns from this!!! I didn't know it was consensual,did he have the young girl's permission to take and share those photos? These instances can be devastating to the young victim who I hope sues the F out of him,let's hope she can just go about her life and learn from it too but that doesn't usually happen. How many people were those pics shared with and how many phones are they still on................can't forget the victim here. I'd also put my money on the statement being written by his legal team......sure sounds like it. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 21, 2021 8:29:16 GMT -6
It doesn’t look the best. We all see that. I think it’s bad, but I’m glad it was consensual and he just took it too far. A lot of other kids wouldn’t even put out that statement and act as if nothing went wrong. Let the kid try and prove himself and go back in the draft. I could tell you stories of guys that I know that played in the NHL, and did much worse than that. They should a been in jail, but due to their status they got off. I think the kid is at least trying to do the right thing by owning it and learning from it. It’s still wrong, no one is justifying it. Just hoping that the kid learns from this!!! I didn't know it was consensual,did he have the young girl's permission to take and share those photos? These instances can be devastating to the young victim who I hope sues the F out of him,let's hope she can just go about her life and learn from it too but that doesn't usually happen. How many people were those pics shared with and how many phones are they still on................can't forget the victim here. I'd also put my money on the statement being written by his legal team......sure sounds like it. Logan is from Belle River and trains with some of the people my son does. Although my boy is 10 and I’d have absolutely no problem blackening my kids eyes if he did that. But that’s me. The Hawks have jumped on the list of teams to say they won’t take him. I guess they kinda had to, you know……… ahem….. ahem. But this kid more than likely screwed himself out of his dream, and maybe rightfully so. It’s hard to get drafted the 2nd time around. But it’s a tough lesson, maybe it’s a learning curve for kids in the future. Part of his punishment should be to talk to kids at high schools and other avenues to push this subject and how it ruined his life, and destroyed hers. I give him credit for owning it. But he’s got a ways to go to prove himself worthy!!! |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jul 21, 2021 8:45:52 GMT -6
The victim, then an 18-year-old female, was not a minor at the time of the incident. Daily Faceoff does not identify victims in sex-related crimes.
According to a 48-page investigation report from Sweden’s North Region Polisen, which was obtained by Daily Faceoff, Mailloux secretly photographed the victim without her consent or knowledge while engaging in oral sex.
The next day, Mailloux shared the photo in the SK Lejon team group chat on SnapChat during a bus ride to a road game. According to the investigation, the victim was not identified in the photo. A witness interviewed said in the investigation that the photo only made visible “the hair of the girl … you saw that it was a girl, and you glimpsed bra straps,” according to the report.
But when Mailloux shared the photo to SK Lejon teammates, according to the report, he also sent a screenshot of the victim’s online profile, which identified her to teammates by displaying her photo, first name and age.
I dont usually comment on non hockey stuff but I got 2 girls. He can go find another dream. He will be playing for the Knights(maybe) this girl will be dealing with this forever. Its that last sentence that was done to hurt and punish for his own glory. He owned it after he was found guilty sorry no points for that. Again just my 2 cents got juice behind this one.
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