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Post by hsbob on Jul 21, 2021 8:46:17 GMT -6
I didn't know it was consensual,did he have the young girl's permission to take and share those photos? These instances can be devastating to the young victim who I hope sues the F out of him,let's hope she can just go about her life and learn from it too but that doesn't usually happen. How many people were those pics shared with and how many phones are they still on................can't forget the victim here. I'd also put my money on the statement being written by his legal team......sure sounds like it. Logan is from Belle River and trains with some of the people my son does. Although my boy is 10 and I’d have absolutely no problem blackening my kids eyes if he did that. But that’s me. The Hawks have jumped on the list of teams to say they won’t take him. I guess they kinda had to, you know……… ahem….. ahem. But this kid more than likely screwed himself out of his dream, and maybe rightfully so. It’s hard to get drafted the 2nd time around. But it’s a tough lesson, maybe it’s a learning curve for kids in the future. Part of his punishment should be to talk to kids at high schools and other avenues to push this subject and how it ruined his life, and destroyed hers. I give him credit for owning it. But he’s got a ways to go to prove himself worthy!!! I'm not saying it's fair to throw the player's career in the garbage either,it's a big shit sandwich and the player will have to take the biggest bite. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 21, 2021 9:34:45 GMT -6
Logan is from Belle River and trains with some of the people my son does. Although my boy is 10 and I’d have absolutely no problem blackening my kids eyes if he did that. But that’s me. The Hawks have jumped on the list of teams to say they won’t take him. I guess they kinda had to, you know……… ahem….. ahem. But this kid more than likely screwed himself out of his dream, and maybe rightfully so. It’s hard to get drafted the 2nd time around. But it’s a tough lesson, maybe it’s a learning curve for kids in the future. Part of his punishment should be to talk to kids at high schools and other avenues to push this subject and how it ruined his life, and destroyed hers. I give him credit for owning it. But he’s got a ways to go to prove himself worthy!!! I'm not saying it's fair to throw the player's career in the garbage either,it's a big shit sandwich and the player will have to take the biggest bite. I agree. If this is the end for him, well, don’t fuck up like that. If teams decide to steer clear of him, cool. If they don’t, cool. I just hope he he has to spread his message. I think a kid about to be a first round pick screws it all up is a great kid to tell other kids not to do stupid shit like that!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 22, 2021 2:31:25 GMT -6
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Post by hsbob on Jul 22, 2021 12:44:43 GMT -6
Is there any doubt we hear 'the ongoing litigation and investigation doesn't allow me to comment'? |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 22, 2021 20:01:33 GMT -6
don't ask me why but i found this kind've funny.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 22, 2021 21:50:58 GMT -6
lots of chatter out there today about a seth jones trade to chicago without losing dach or debrincat.
i just wonder if we're going to have a first round pick this year?
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 22, 2021 22:24:00 GMT -6
lots of chatter out there today about a seth jones trade to chicago without losing dach or debrincat. i just wonder if we're going to have a first round pick this year? Hopefully Strome and Boqvist and no #11 pick. |
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Post by Tater on Jul 22, 2021 22:26:30 GMT -6
lots of chatter out there today about a seth jones trade to chicago without losing dach or debrincat. i just wonder if we're going to have a first round pick this year? If only...
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Post by vadarx on Jul 22, 2021 22:34:24 GMT -6
lots of chatter out there today about a seth jones trade to chicago without losing dach or debrincat. i just wonder if we're going to have a first round pick this year? the 'hawks aren't trading either of them, so that's been the case all along. I have a feeling any first round pick we trade will be in 2022. hopefully we don't trade a first rounder at all. if we have to then I don't want Jones. cbj wants players and prospects, not picks. a couple current players and a couple prospects should be plenty. maybe we include a second rounder this or next year. that is the most I would do. my offer would be: Strome, Mitchell or Beaudin, Kurashev, and a 2nd rounder. maybe I include Reichel instead of Kurashev, but I'd rather not. no first round picks. we have the leverage, no need to give up more than we have to. edit: after reading more about the sexual assault allegations, I'd say the Blackhawks would be REALLY dumb to trade their pick tomorrow. I won't be surprised if the league makes them forfeit a pick next year because of this. yet another reason not to trade a first round pick for Jones... |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 22, 2021 22:37:06 GMT -6
lotta mocks with us taking Lucius now. I'd be good with that. I've seen Cossa a few times, too. not so good with that...
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Post by Tater on Jul 22, 2021 22:58:13 GMT -6
lotta mocks with us taking Lucius now. I'd be good with that. I've seen Cossa a few times, too. not so good with that... Me too. Plus, he has a pretty cool name. |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 23, 2021 4:41:54 GMT -6
Pronman is saying Wallstedt to the 'hawks in his newest mock. he also mentioned again that goalie or Coronato are the players he has heard the most in regards to the Blackhawks...
he said the same thing last week...
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Post by LordKOTL on Jul 23, 2021 7:45:56 GMT -6
lots of chatter out there today about a seth jones trade to chicago without losing dach or debrincat. i just wonder if we're going to have a first round pick this year? Hopefully Strome and Boqvist and no #11 pick. VVV Hopefully Strome and Boqvist and no #11 pick. If only...
Throw in Nylander for good measure. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 23, 2021 8:01:46 GMT -6
Don’t the Hawks have all women announcing the picks? The first rounder is the big one. I’m still not sold on Seth Jones. If it happens, it can’t be for a massive haul. I’d think that Strome and Boqvist should be enough. Seth Jones may have told the BJs he’s not interested in a trade, and that he will only sign with the Hawks. So it limits their options and he gets to go where he wants to.
I have to say, if Boqvist were to go there. I’d love to see Fonzy’s reaction to his play. I know Fonzy is off into the sunset. But that would’ve been epic TV viewing!!!
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Post by vadarx on Jul 23, 2021 8:12:22 GMT -6
Don’t the Hawks have all women announcing the picks? The first rounder is the big one. I’m still not sold on Seth Jones. If it happens, it can’t be for a massive haul. I’d think that Strome and Boqvist should be enough. Seth Jones may have told the BJs he’s not interested in a trade, and that he will only sign with the Hawks. So it limits their options and he gets to go where he wants to. I have to say, if Boqvist were to go there. I’d love to see Fonzy’s reaction to his play. I know Fonzy is off into the sunset. But that would’ve been epic TV viewing!!! honestly, and I know this might not be popular here, I'd rather not give up Boqvist just yet either. he is still only 20 and has a lot of time and room to grow. that being said, if we can get Jones for he and Strome I think I'd have to make that trade. highly doubt cbj would settle for that, though... |
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Post by BigT on Jul 23, 2021 8:18:15 GMT -6
Don’t the Hawks have all women announcing the picks? The first rounder is the big one. I’m still not sold on Seth Jones. If it happens, it can’t be for a massive haul. I’d think that Strome and Boqvist should be enough. Seth Jones may have told the BJs he’s not interested in a trade, and that he will only sign with the Hawks. So it limits their options and he gets to go where he wants to. I have to say, if Boqvist were to go there. I’d love to see Fonzy’s reaction to his play. I know Fonzy is off into the sunset. But that would’ve been epic TV viewing!!! honestly, and I know this might not be popular here, I'd rather not give up Boqvist just yet either. he is still only 20 and has a lot of time and room to grow. that being said, if we can get Jones for he and Strome I think I'd have to make that trade. highly doubt cbj would settle for that, though... You’re reasoning is why I think the BJs may want Boqvist. I do agree he’s young and still has some hope. But he’s nowhere near ready to be a top pairing Dman. Without Keith, or another Norris caliber dman, Boqvist will never develop because we have people with global mental delay running this thing. JC will waste half a year trying a kid where they don’t belong right now. So I think the kid will be wasted here regardless. If he goes elsewhere, I don’t doubt the kid could be pretty awesome. But he definitely needs a coach to tell him the truth rather than massage his ego!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 23, 2021 8:28:03 GMT -6
honestly, and I know this might not be popular here, I'd rather not give up Boqvist just yet either. he is still only 20 and has a lot of time and room to grow. that being said, if we can get Jones for he and Strome I think I'd have to make that trade. highly doubt cbj would settle for that, though... You’re reasoning is why I think the BJs may want Boqvist. I do agree he’s young and still has some hope. But he’s nowhere near ready to be a top pairing Dman. Without Keith, or another Norris caliber dman, Boqvist will never develop because we have people with global mental delay running this thing. JC will waste half a year trying a kid where they don’t belong right now. So I think the kid will be wasted here regardless. If he goes elsewhere, I don’t doubt the kid could be pretty awesome. But he definitely needs a coach to tell him the truth rather than massage his ego!!! you are probably right about c-bus. they might go for him just because of his potential. I feel pretty confident that JC tells him the truth. I don't feel confident that JC's system will work in the NHL. i just hope they bring in someone else after this coming season should we fail to make the playoffs again. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 23, 2021 8:48:12 GMT -6
You’re reasoning is why I think the BJs may want Boqvist. I do agree he’s young and still has some hope. But he’s nowhere near ready to be a top pairing Dman. Without Keith, or another Norris caliber dman, Boqvist will never develop because we have people with global mental delay running this thing. JC will waste half a year trying a kid where they don’t belong right now. So I think the kid will be wasted here regardless. If he goes elsewhere, I don’t doubt the kid could be pretty awesome. But he definitely needs a coach to tell him the truth rather than massage his ego!!! you are probably right about c-bus. they might go for him just because of his potential. I feel pretty confident that JC tells him the truth. I don't feel confident that JC's system will work in the NHL. i just hope they bring in someone else after this coming season should we fail to make the playoffs again. If JC does tell him the truth, then Boqvist is absolutely insubordinate. He just won’t follow the rules. I think what’s happening is JC is just focusing on the positives to try and move the kid in the right direction. I understand JCs way. I just don’t think it works. He gets out coached almost every game. He’s trying to be this “visionary” rather than build off of what the last guy did. So i think the problem lies with him JC trying to use a total different approach to communication. And I’d bet the players eventually tune him out, and don’t wanna listen to a guy talk to them for 45 more minutes. Where as the real new age coaches are guys like DJ Smith and Bob Boughner. They take on the approach of being the players best friend. They treat them like equals and have the teams attention every step of the way. If the players go out to party, he understands, and won’t punish them. He just tries to reel it in a bit. Players love coaches like that, and they’ll go through a wall for them. That’s the new age “Great Communicator”!!! |
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 23, 2021 9:32:52 GMT -6
Don’t the Hawks have all women announcing the picks? The first rounder is the big one. I’m still not sold on Seth Jones. If it happens, it can’t be for a massive haul. I’d think that Strome and Boqvist should be enough. Seth Jones may have told the BJs he’s not interested in a trade, and that he will only sign with the Hawks. So it limits their options and he gets to go where he wants to. I have to say, if Boqvist were to go there. I’d love to see Fonzy’s reaction to his play. I know Fonzy is off into the sunset. But that would’ve been epic TV viewing!!! honestly, and I know this might not be popular here, I'd rather not give up Boqvist just yet either. he is still only 20 and has a lot of time and room to grow. that being said, if we can get Jones for he and Strome I think I'd have to make that trade. highly doubt cbj would settle for that, though... by the way, is it going to be just one year of Jones? or is he going to sign long term here with the Hawks? i haven't seen anything clear on that. im Ok on losing Strome for 1 yr of Jones, but the rest, sheesh |
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Post by BigT on Jul 23, 2021 9:54:06 GMT -6
honestly, and I know this might not be popular here, I'd rather not give up Boqvist just yet either. he is still only 20 and has a lot of time and room to grow. that being said, if we can get Jones for he and Strome I think I'd have to make that trade. highly doubt cbj would settle for that, though... by the way, is it going to be just one year of Jones? or is he going to sign long term here with the Hawks? i haven't seen anything clear on that. im Ok on losing Strome for 1 yr of Jones, but the rest, sheesh I’m sure the deal would be contingent on him signing a long term deal. Probably be a sign and trade!!! |
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 23, 2021 10:11:48 GMT -6
by the way, is it going to be just one year of Jones? or is he going to sign long term here with the Hawks? i haven't seen anything clear on that. im Ok on losing Strome for 1 yr of Jones, but the rest, sheesh I’m sure the deal would be contingent on him signing a long term deal. Probably be a sign and trade!!! yea, hopefully. But SB might just want to get him first, confident that he can convince Jones to sign long term at a later date (throughout the year). Could also be thinking that if he couldn't, he could flip him during TDL |
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Post by BigT on Jul 23, 2021 10:12:56 GMT -6
I’m sure the deal would be contingent on him signing a long term deal. Probably be a sign and trade!!! yea, hopefully. But SB might just want to get him first, confident that he can convince Jones to sign long term at a later date (throughout the year). Could also be thinking that if he couldn't, he could flip him during TDL I posted in the off-season thread about the rumour. It’s per Elliott Friedman!!! |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 23, 2021 10:25:02 GMT -6
I’m sure the deal would be contingent on him signing a long term deal. Probably be a sign and trade!!! yea, hopefully. But SB might just want to get him first, confident that he can convince Jones to sign long term at a later date (throughout the year). Could also be thinking that if he couldn't, he could flip him during TDL Or maybe like the first Saad trade they sign Jones right away, like they did with Anisimov. It'd be best to do that so it's not an issue throughout the year. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Jul 23, 2021 16:21:02 GMT -6
lots of chatter out there today about a seth jones trade to chicago without losing dach or debrincat. i just wonder if we're going to have a first round pick this year? My understanding is that Jones has one year left on his contract. If that is true, then why would Bowman trade off picks or anyone currently on the team for a guy who once he gets a taste of the losing culture on the Hawks will bolt next year. I would stay clear of any guy whose contract expires at the end of this year. No player with any brain would stick around to keep losing forever with this team. If I am wrong and he has more years left on his contract, then it is still a bad bet because this team needs to be rebuilt not keeping taking stabs at building a winning team with Toews and Kane, both of whom would leave asap, if they were smart. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 23, 2021 16:38:24 GMT -6
lots of chatter out there today about a seth jones trade to chicago without losing dach or debrincat. i just wonder if we're going to have a first round pick this year? My understanding is that Jones has one year left on his contract. If that is true, then why would Bowman trade off picks or anyone currently on the team for a guy who once he gets a taste of the losing culture on the Hawks will bolt next year. I would stay clear of any guy whose contract expires at the end of this year. No player with any brain would stick around to keep losing forever with this team. If I am wrong and he has more years left on his contract, then it is still a bad bet because this team needs to be rebuilt not keeping taking stabs at building a winning team with Toews and Kane, both of whom would leave asap, if they were smart. That's why they should agree to a sign and trade. |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jul 23, 2021 18:00:17 GMT -6
Guys who you thinking at 32?
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Post by tincup on Jul 23, 2021 18:14:26 GMT -6
Guys who you thinking at 32? I’m thinking they’ll take Colton Dach, just because. |
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Post by tincup on Jul 23, 2021 18:18:36 GMT -6
I’m virtually booing Bettman.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 23, 2021 18:27:09 GMT -6
Guys who you thinking at 32? I’m thinking they’ll take Colton Dach, just because. I'd take him at 32, big skilled center with a great upbringing. Lefty and Righty Dachs, one likes to shoot and the other pass. |
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Post by tincup on Jul 23, 2021 18:28:52 GMT -6
I’m thinking they’ll take Colton Dach, just because. I'd take him at 32, big skilled center with a great upbringing. Lefty and Righty Dachs, one likes to shoot and the other pass. And the more brother pairs they have, they save on sweater lettering. But seriously, at #31, why not take a chance. |
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