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Post by hsbob on Jun 30, 2021 8:50:34 GMT -6
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jun 30, 2021 8:57:20 GMT -6
Thanks Bob not gonna lie that made my morning !!
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Jun 30, 2021 10:39:15 GMT -6
I just read that he was diagnosed with Chronic Immune Response Syndrome, which is to say that he doesn't have a specific illness. That's good news, I suppose. Hopefully, taking a year off has done him good.
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Post by Tater on Jun 30, 2021 10:49:16 GMT -6
Such great news! He seems so happy and relaxed in the video. Having him back should be a huge help, especially for Dach and others with faceoffs.
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Post by jimakablkhwks918 on Jun 30, 2021 10:56:44 GMT -6
Made my week with this news, especially in light of other recent Hawks news.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 30, 2021 11:36:09 GMT -6
Thanks Bob not gonna lie that made my morning !! That made my morning as well, that's awesome news. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Jun 30, 2021 13:52:39 GMT -6
I added his tweet to your post Bob.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 30, 2021 14:06:18 GMT -6
With the amount of stress he put his body through, plus the break up of his long time girlfriend, and Saad being traded again, that's a lot to handle. He looks thinner but he'll get it back training this summer.
Great seeing him on the ice and smiling.
And Saad is a UFA, get him back.
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Jun 30, 2021 16:20:21 GMT -6
I can't find any mention of this condition on any well-established, reputable websites, such as WebMD or the Mayo clinic. I wonder where he got this diagnosis, which sounds a bit made up or at least like an umbrella syndrome that tries to explain multiple diffuse symptoms.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 30, 2021 16:38:17 GMT -6
of all of the thousands of threads on these boards and the old ones, this one got to me the most.
i just read the title and did a major fist pump, made my morning nescafe with a dopey grin on my face, then sat down to read.
so thanks bob for the greatest thread ever created.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 30, 2021 16:48:11 GMT -6
never a doubt in my mind.
welcome back, Jonny.
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Post by hsbob on Jun 30, 2021 19:07:43 GMT -6
of all of the thousands of threads on these boards and the old ones, this one got to me the most. i just read the title and did a major fist pump, made my morning nescafe with a dopey grin on my face, then sat down to read. so thanks bob for the greatest thread ever created. I rarely if ever start one too but I had trusty Ol WBBM newsradio on and I was already signed in and arguing with somebody or the other so figured.....why not!LOL!!!! I don't know it it was earlier today or yesterday but I saw a tid bit somewhere mentioning it was exactly six months ago today when we heard he'd be out indefinitely so it's interesting timing with the other stuff goin' on. |
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Post by hsbob on Jun 30, 2021 19:09:13 GMT -6
I can't find any mention of this condition on any well-established, reputable websites, such as WebMD or the Mayo clinic. I wonder where he got this diagnosis, which sounds a bit made up or at least like an umbrella syndrome that tries to explain multiple diffuse symptoms. Just go with what he said and be happy he's back and healthy.........what're ya writin' a book.....LOL.......JK!!!! |
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Post by shooter61 on Jul 1, 2021 16:04:55 GMT -6
I can't find any mention of this condition on any well-established, reputable websites, such as WebMD or the Mayo clinic. I wonder where he got this diagnosis, which sounds a bit made up or at least like an umbrella syndrome that tries to explain multiple diffuse symptoms. Just go with what he said and be happy he's back and healthy.........what're ya writin' a book.....LOL.......JK!!!! I checked with my son , who just happens to be a Orthopedic surgeon, he explained it's very close to HIV. in the sense that your immune system attack's every thing, from the air you breath , to the food you eat, very rare and hard to diagnose, so i would think that it would take a while for them to rule out different things |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 1, 2021 16:20:33 GMT -6
pretty good article here that should answer a lot of questions you might have. a few paragraphs here... First off, Toews says he believes that he had a case of COVID back in February 2020, before the entire world was made aware of just exactly what COVID-19 was and would be.
He acknowledges that the Chronic Immune Response Syndrome that he has been diagnosed with was likely already an issue with him, not allowing his body to recover from the years and years of physical stress that hockey had placed on his body. When talking with Lazerus, Toews said over his years of playing in the NHL, through his 20’s and 30’s, he had never felt his best physically. That’s odd for someone like Toews to feel, given that he treats his body more like a science project than as a vessel to take himself from place to place, like 95% of the world does.(from jonny) I’m not a doctor, but from what I’ve learned about a lot of these COVID long-haulers is that a lot of them had pre-existing conditions or some kind of stress they’re dealing with, and all of a sudden, (COVID) is the straw that breaks the camel’s back. That’s why I look at this thing as a whole. I think a lot of things just came to a head.
And so Toews, who’s constantly seeking “total human optimization,” plummeted lower than he’d ever felt. He cut himself off from just about everyone, wallowing in despair and endlessly “mulling over” everything that was happening to him, everything that scared him, everything he couldn’t explain. There were days he didn’t want to get out of bed. Days when he didn’t answer his phone or respond to texts from concerned teammates. Days when he wondered if his career was over.
Toews says his goal is to take the opening face-off of the 2021-22 regular season for the Blackhawks and be out there on opening night. But he can’t guarantee that he will.www.bleachernation.com/blackhawks/2021/07/01/jonathan-toews-speaks-aiming-for-opening-night-medical-info-and-allegations-of-sexual-abuse/ |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 1, 2021 18:13:51 GMT -6
pretty good article here that should answer a lot of questions you might have. a few paragraphs here... First off, Toews says he believes that he had a case of COVID back in February 2020, before the entire world was made aware of just exactly what COVID-19 was and would be.
He acknowledges that the Chronic Immune Response Syndrome that he has been diagnosed with was likely already an issue with him, not allowing his body to recover from the years and years of physical stress that hockey had placed on his body. When talking with Lazerus, Toews said over his years of playing in the NHL, through his 20’s and 30’s, he had never felt his best physically. That’s odd for someone like Toews to feel, given that he treats his body more like a science project than as a vessel to take himself from place to place, like 95% of the world does.(from jonny) I’m not a doctor, but from what I’ve learned about a lot of these COVID long-haulers is that a lot of them had pre-existing conditions or some kind of stress they’re dealing with, and all of a sudden, (COVID) is the straw that breaks the camel’s back. That’s why I look at this thing as a whole. I think a lot of things just came to a head.
And so Toews, who’s constantly seeking “total human optimization,” plummeted lower than he’d ever felt. He cut himself off from just about everyone, wallowing in despair and endlessly “mulling over” everything that was happening to him, everything that scared him, everything he couldn’t explain. There were days he didn’t want to get out of bed. Days when he didn’t answer his phone or respond to texts from concerned teammates. Days when he wondered if his career was over.
Toews says his goal is to take the opening face-off of the 2021-22 regular season for the Blackhawks and be out there on opening night. But he can’t guarantee that he will.www.bleachernation.com/blackhawks/2021/07/01/jonathan-toews-speaks-aiming-for-opening-night-medical-info-and-allegations-of-sexual-abuse/Excellent article! |
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Jul 1, 2021 20:02:20 GMT -6
Just go with what he said and be happy he's back and healthy.........what're ya writin' a book.....LOL.......JK!!!! I checked with my son , who just happens to be a Orthopedic surgeon, he explained it's very close to HIV. in the sense that your immune system attack's every thing, from the air you breath , to the food you eat, very rare and hard to diagnose, so i would think that it would take a while for them to rule out different things I agree with Bob and I am elated that Jon is returning...However, HIV, from my laymen understanding, attacks the T cells, which are essential for your body's immune response. This causes the HIV-infected person to become susceptible to various opportunistic infections and certain rare cancers. CIRS, on the other hand, is an inflammatory disease caused by overactive immune system, which, I gather, occurs as a result of exposure to mold or some other biotoxins. In my mind it's more similar to lupus. The symptoms described are so wide-ranging that it makes it hard to call this a single disease. There's no test for CIRS, so the diagnosis is done by ruling out all other possibilities. I think in the past Toews' symptoms would have been called psychosomatic. All the same, it's great that Jon has it under control. PS: The disease that lies adjacent to HIV is the bubonic plague, but I won't go on that tangent  |
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Post by Tater on Jul 2, 2021 0:15:56 GMT -6
pretty good article here that should answer a lot of questions you might have. Excellent article! Yes! Thanks for posting it.
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Post by hsbob on Jul 2, 2021 8:42:48 GMT -6
I checked with my son , who just happens to be a Orthopedic surgeon, he explained it's very close to HIV. in the sense that your immune system attack's every thing, from the air you breath , to the food you eat, very rare and hard to diagnose, so i would think that it would take a while for them to rule out different things I agree with Bob and I am elated that Jon is returning...However, HIV, from my laymen understanding, attacks the T cells, which are essential for your body's immune response. This causes the HIV-infected person to become susceptible to various opportunistic infections and certain rare cancers. CIRS, on the other hand, is an inflammatory disease caused by overactive immune system, which, I gather, occurs as a result of exposure to mold or some other biotoxins. In my mind it's more similar to lupus. The symptoms described are so wide-ranging that it makes it hard to call this a single disease. There's no test for CIRS, so the diagnosis is done by ruling out all other possibilities. I think in the past Toews' symptoms would have been called psychosomatic. All the same, it's great that Jon has it under control. PS: The disease that lies adjacent to HIV is the bubonic plague, but I won't go on that tangent The 'Black plague' was about the only thing he WASN'T rumored to have!......LOL!!! |
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Post by jaty84 on Aug 3, 2021 0:48:33 GMT -6
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Post by galaxytrash on Aug 3, 2021 1:37:36 GMT -6
i just got this feeling that JT will be taking the opening faceoff in game 1 of the season. i don't think bowman goes on his spending spree without 100% faith in toews' return. i think the reason he is sounding skeptical of JT's return is to make it a bigger deal when jonny in fact makes it onto the roster on opening night. jmho (just my "hopeful" opinion). |
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Post by Tater on Aug 3, 2021 1:37:57 GMT -6
Damn, I thought he'd he be here for the start of the season too. I hope Dach and Johnson are up to filling in. I guess Strome too if he's still here.
Edit: Just now saw your post GT. I hope your right.
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Post by jaty84 on Aug 3, 2021 2:15:53 GMT -6
On another note - did you notice within the article that Bowman doesn't mention Strome? When talking about depth at center, he's mentioning solely Toews, Dach and Johnson. No mention whatsoever about Strome...
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Post by galaxytrash on Aug 3, 2021 2:31:42 GMT -6
On another note - did you notice within the article that Bowman doesn't mention Strome? When talking about depth at center, he's mentioning solely Toews, Dach and Johnson. No mention whatsoever about Strome... this article just appeared on twitter a short while back. bowman does address the strome situation a bit in it. the article also discusses some other centers that might find themselves playing wing this year. www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=112856 |
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Post by hsbob on Aug 3, 2021 7:31:07 GMT -6
On another note - did you notice within the article that Bowman doesn't mention Strome? When talking about depth at center, he's mentioning solely Toews, Dach and Johnson. No mention whatsoever about Strome... It's hard to believe the team keeps a player the HC has such little use for. With Borgstrom ,who I believe gets every opportunity and Carpenter still in the mix Strome will have to make it as a wing and we know how well that goes........I don't know why they didn't try to get something for him and clear a bit of space too. |
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Post by squishy24 on Aug 3, 2021 10:52:42 GMT -6
On another note - did you notice within the article that Bowman doesn't mention Strome? When talking about depth at center, he's mentioning solely Toews, Dach and Johnson. No mention whatsoever about Strome... It's hard to believe the team keeps a player the HC has such little use for. With Borgstrom ,who I believe gets every opportunity and Carpenter still in the mix Strome will have to make it as a wing and we know how well that goes........ I don't know why they didn't try to get something for him and clear a bit of space too. ^ they might still be trying to. SB wont just flat out say in the media that theyre trying to get rid of him |
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Post by jaty84 on Aug 4, 2021 1:19:04 GMT -6
On another note - did you notice within the article that Bowman doesn't mention Strome? When talking about depth at center, he's mentioning solely Toews, Dach and Johnson. No mention whatsoever about Strome... It's hard to believe the team keeps a player the HC has such little use for. With Borgstrom ,who I believe gets every opportunity and Carpenter still in the mix Strome will have to make it as a wing and we know how well that goes........I don't know why they didn't try to get something for him and clear a bit of space too. As squishy said above, probably they did try to move him. However, it's not a good marketing apparently when you're not listing your former 2C among your potential top 3C for the future. You have then very close to zero leverage in negotiations. SB at least should have mentioned him in the group of potential top 3C. Because only position he was successful over here, was at C (excluding face-offs). Once he was moved to wing, he was non-existent. Therefore for the future you have IMHO only two options - you either play him at C and hope for a jumpstart or you trade him. But he won't be pleasing to anyone once SB makes such horrible PR. Or of course you have third option - continue playing him on wing. But that's not the way to conference finals SB is hoping for... |
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Post by hsbob on Aug 4, 2021 6:33:09 GMT -6
It's hard to believe the team keeps a player the HC has such little use for. With Borgstrom ,who I believe gets every opportunity and Carpenter still in the mix Strome will have to make it as a wing and we know how well that goes........ I don't know why they didn't try to get something for him and clear a bit of space too. ^ they might still be trying to. SB wont just flat out say in the media that theyre trying to get rid of him It just seems the period around and between the draft and FA day is the time to make a move. |
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Post by squishy24 on Aug 4, 2021 9:49:35 GMT -6
^ they might still be trying to. SB wont just flat out say in the media that theyre trying to get rid of him It just seems the period around and between the draft and FA day is the time to make a move. yea, that would have been the perfect time. But we all know Bowman, he holds on to the players that need/has to be traded until the last second when their value has gone down. but looking from Bowman's view (or at least what i think his view is), maybe Strome is a back-up plan if Toews isn't ready or has to leave again? not a comparable back-up plan, but a back-up plan nonetheless |
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Post by T-man2010 on Aug 4, 2021 10:19:46 GMT -6
It just seems the period around and between the draft and FA day is the time to make a move. yea, that would have been the perfect time. But we all know Bowman, he holds on to the players that need/has to be traded until the last second when their value has gone down. but looking from Bowman's view (or at least what i think his view is), maybe Strome is a back-up plan if Toews isn't ready or has to leave again? not a comparable back-up plan, but a back-up plan nonetheless Since none of us are consulted about any phone calls made or gotten by the FO regarding trades, we speculate what SB does or doesn't do. We don't know if he tried to make deals and was rejected by other GM's or he rejected other GM's ridicules trade offers. We will never know. |
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