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Post by acesandeights on Feb 6, 2022 9:53:45 GMT -6
This is from the 'Scott Mellanby will interview..' article.
"For example, interim GM Kyle Davidson is in the running (and likely the front-runner for the position at this point),"
I knew little about Kyle Davidson's background so I looked it up, and it was all administrative. I didn't see anything hockey related, unless you count being assistant GM for the last two years. As I was reading, I couldn't help but think "Stan Bowman", with less experience.
Can someone point out why Davidson would be the likely front runner, when there would surely be other more qualified candidates out there? Wiki said in 2010, KD became an intern for the Blackhawks as a video analyst. And now only 10-11 years later, he could be the front runner for the GM position for an original six team?
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Feb 6, 2022 10:16:14 GMT -6
This is from the 'Scott Mellanby will interview..' article. "For example, interim GM Kyle Davidson is in the running ( and likely the front-runner for the position at this point)," I knew little about Kyle Davidson's background so I looked it up, and it was all administrative. I didn't see anything hockey related, unless you count being assistant GM for the last two years. As I was reading, I couldn't help but think "Stan Bowman", with less experience. Can someone point out why Davidson would be the likely front runner, when there would surely be other more qualified candidates out there? Wiki said in 2010, KD became an intern for the Blackhawks as a video analyst. And now only 10-11 years later, he could be the front runner for the GM position for an original six team? I don't get it, he started out as an equipment manager in the OHL before taking over as video coach in Chicago after the pedophile was let go. Besides not growing up around the NHL he does sound like a Bowman clone.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Feb 6, 2022 10:25:12 GMT -6
If Toews and Kane aren't moved and are not to be the "go-to guys", how do they get "go-to guys"? They sure aren't passing the time in Rockford. C'mon jack,you can hold your nose for one more year can't ya? Like I said,I been okay with moving both guys for a few years now but really only to see me play for better teams but if you think trading them guarantees we get new "go-to guys".........you might be real disappointed. Maybe not with Kane if the NYR offer's any indication. Kakko and the big Russian prospect could be go to guys one day, or at least one of them. Plus the right handed Swede and 1st rounder could become ones as well, you never know. Toews won't get a big return plus he'll need half his salary retained, we could probably get back a solid depth player and mid level prospect and pick. I'd feel far more confident in Mellanby moving them than Peter Chirelli 🤢
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Post by jacksalmon on Feb 6, 2022 11:59:53 GMT -6
If Toews and Kane aren't moved and are not to be the "go-to guys", how do they get "go-to guys"? They sure aren't passing the time in Rockford. C'mon jack,you can hold your nose for one more year can't ya? Like I said,I been okay with moving both guys for a few years now but really only to see me play for better teams but if you think trading them guarantees we get new "go-to guys".........you might be real disappointed. I really have no problem emotionally dealing with this crap team. But, intellectually, I do wonder what they they will do to better themselves, as I assume the org wants to put a better product on the ice. Since it is obvious that keeping K&T around has done nothing for this team and letting them hang around until the ends of their contracts will return nothing, it seems to me that they might as well try to get something in trade for them, even at this late stage. I don't see any other options, altho, my vision is sometimes very limited.
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Post by jacksalmon on Feb 6, 2022 12:00:58 GMT -6
This is from the 'Scott Mellanby will interview..' article. "For example, interim GM Kyle Davidson is in the running ( and likely the front-runner for the position at this point)," I knew little about Kyle Davidson's background so I looked it up, and it was all administrative. I didn't see anything hockey related, unless you count being assistant GM for the last two years. As I was reading, I couldn't help but think "Stan Bowman", with less experience. Can someone point out why Davidson would be the likely front runner, when there would surely be other more qualified candidates out there? Wiki said in 2010, KD became an intern for the Blackhawks as a video analyst. And now only 10-11 years later, he could be the front runner for the GM position for an original six team? To me what you say only emphasizes how much this org has declined since 2010.
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Post by jacksalmon on Feb 6, 2022 12:03:26 GMT -6
This is from the 'Scott Mellanby will interview..' article. "For example, interim GM Kyle Davidson is in the running ( and likely the front-runner for the position at this point)," I knew little about Kyle Davidson's background so I looked it up, and it was all administrative. I didn't see anything hockey related, unless you count being assistant GM for the last two years. As I was reading, I couldn't help but think "Stan Bowman", with less experience. Can someone point out why Davidson would be the likely front runner, when there would surely be other more qualified candidates out there? Wiki said in 2010, KD became an intern for the Blackhawks as a video analyst. And now only 10-11 years later, he could be the front runner for the GM position for an original six team? I don't get it, he started out as an equipment manager in the OHL before taking over as video coach in Chicago after the pedophile was let go. Besides not growing up around the NHL he does sound like a Bowman clone. Being a Bowman clone, includes being even less qualified for the job. To me, it is near unbelievable that Davidson is even being considered for such an important position, given his background.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Feb 6, 2022 12:47:08 GMT -6
I don't get it, he started out as an equipment manager in the OHL before taking over as video coach in Chicago after the pedophile was let go. Besides not growing up around the NHL he does sound like a Bowman clone. Being a Bowman clone, includes being even less qualified for the job. To me, it is near unbelievable that Davidson is even being considered for such an important position, given his background. Hopefully Hoss, Sharp, and Edzo feel the same way and they're leaning towards Mellanby.
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Post by BigT on Feb 6, 2022 13:27:11 GMT -6
Being a Bowman clone, includes being even less qualified for the job. To me, it is near unbelievable that Davidson is even being considered for such an important position, given his background. Hopefully Hoss, Sharp, and Edzo feel the same way and they're leaning towards Mellanby. I’m not saying it has to be Mellanby. But they need someone like that. A tough ex player that won’t tolerate shitty play night in and out. What about Dean Lombardi? He seemed to take the Kings team to some good places. Drafted his stud dman, and made the trades he needed to. He’s in the Flyers front office at this point. But we need some veteran presence in that front office!!!
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Post by BigT on Feb 6, 2022 16:38:57 GMT -6
Is the orgs style of transparency just letting us know who they’ve interviewed? I get emails from the Hawks that say “INTERVIEWED”, and then the persons pic underneath them.
I think that’s all the transparency they’re willing to give!!!
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Post by vadarx on Feb 6, 2022 16:48:15 GMT -6
This is from the 'Scott Mellanby will interview..' article. "For example, interim GM Kyle Davidson is in the running ( and likely the front-runner for the position at this point)," I knew little about Kyle Davidson's background so I looked it up, and it was all administrative. I didn't see anything hockey related, unless you count being assistant GM for the last two years. As I was reading, I couldn't help but think "Stan Bowman", with less experience. Can someone point out why Davidson would be the likely front runner, when there would surely be other more qualified candidates out there? Wiki said in 2010, KD became an intern for the Blackhawks as a video analyst. And now only 10-11 years later, he could be the front runner for the GM position for an original six team? cost effectiveness and subordination.
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Post by T-man2010 on Feb 6, 2022 19:00:50 GMT -6
Is the orgs style of transparency just letting us know who they’ve interviewed? I get emails from the Hawks that say “INTERVIEWED”, and then the persons pic underneath them. I think that’s all the transparency they’re willing to give!!! I think they should send us the list of people and we'll tell them who to hire.
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Post by LordKOTL on Feb 6, 2022 21:25:05 GMT -6
There never is a guarantee. As a fan thought I expect steps forward with a realistic goal in mind. If the 'hawks are going to go through a number of bad years while they try to rebuild things up from essentially scratch, but the big goal is trying to get those pieces to build another contender, I'm okay with it. What I'm not okay with is the stagnation that has been happening since ~2018, if not ~2016 for trying to put one more team together for the cup-winning core when said core was no longer good enough to drive a team to within reach of a cup. As long as the new brass fully embraces trying to move to the next era of the 'hawks rather than trying to drag the previous era along, I'm okay with it even if it's not 100% successful. There are 31 other teams trying to do the same thing and not all of them get lucky. Sure the team should have been rebuilding for 2-3 years now but are you saying the team would be a contender again if they would only have dumped Kane and Toews 5-6 yeaes ago? You'll be "okay" if the team isn't 100% successful(LOFL) just as long as they move on from the old era.......you might have to suffer another year of Kane and Toews.....hope you can endure. By "dragging the previous era along",you have to mean Kane and Toews because they're the last two left.......who else could you mean? Kane and Toews both had their best seasons ever.....'2018-2019' 44/110 35/81 and D-cat had 41/76,even Keith had 40pts and was +13 but the team finished two over because the REST of the team SUCKED and the REST of the team has SUCKED ever since. Kane and Toews were still "good enough to drive a team within reach of a cup" in 18-19 with career numbers but the REST of the team SUCKED with the exception of D-Cat......Keith and Seabs had 69pts combined too. I'm sure the 21M will be utilized so much better and two even greater players will replace our two old stagnant players but if the rest of the team sucks it won't matter. What I'M not okay with is a team that'll SUCK for the next decade but at least 19&88 will be gone. Which two UFA's that can be signed for 21M next summer would make the team an instant contender if we were LUCKY enough to dump Kane and Toews? I never said the team could have been a contender if they dropped the old core. Let's be realistic here: Post 2015 I don't think any could have been realistically moved for a definitive net positive with respect to the team irrespective of their play good or bad, especially with Bowman at the helm. Remember, that was a guy who parlayed 2 years of Panarin at 6M into Saad (who was not effective here in his 2nd run) for Zadorov, and eventually a 3rd rounder. That was a GM who traded Lehner for Malcom Subban. Anyone paying attention knows Bowman the Beancounter, if given the opportunity to trade Kane or Toews, would manage to turn Gasoline into Goat-piss. You've actually stated the problem with the previous years succinctly: With so much money that Bowman the Beancounter paid for scrubs or bottom-tier players like Panik (after a single solid year), DeHaan, Maata, Zadorov, etc., it handcuffed the team--especially expecting that only guys like Toews, Kane, Keith, and Seabrook would be able to carry *them* to a cup. Missing from the equation was a Hossa, Sharp, Hjammer, Campbell/Oduya, and a Crawford (most notably in 2019). With the cash outlaid to those scrub players and with TKKS having banner years, it still wasn't a critical mass for them to go anywhere--and certainly not behind guys like Cam Ward and Colin Delia. for a long time. They were what they were. Even with the core+Debrincat playing as well as they were there was zero chance the 'hawks could have gotten them on the open market even if Bowman the Beancounter *was* trying. They were missing that critical mass of other players who were part of the core or major pieces in winning the past cups. It's doubtful anyone on the 2019 could have fetched one of them on the open market. If Kane and Toews stay, they stay. If they go, they go. If they are resigned it should be for market value and taking into consideration 35+ contracts. My point was that the next GM should NOT do what Bowman the Beancounter did--they need to be realistic about the team as-constructed and the pieces they have. A winning streak should not put the breaks on the rebuild. The future should not be mortgaged. The rebuild has to be taken with guys who have modern Hockey IQ providing good scouting and decisions--not someone who should have stuck to doing the taxes for Binny's Beverage Depot™. Staying horrible is bad, but the purpose should be getting the next gen in as soon as reasonable and developing them properly (i.e. no rushing like Dach). But, for all we know the next contending 'hawks team might be like '71 or '92. I hope not, but it is a possibility seeing as how there are 31 other teams trying to do the same and you should know as well as I do a bad bounce could me the difference between a WCF exit and a cup.
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Post by hsbob on Feb 7, 2022 8:52:07 GMT -6
Sure the team should have been rebuilding for 2-3 years now but are you saying the team would be a contender again if they would only have dumped Kane and Toews 5-6 yeaes ago? You'll be "okay" if the team isn't 100% successful(LOFL) just as long as they move on from the old era.......you might have to suffer another year of Kane and Toews.....hope you can endure. By "dragging the previous era along",you have to mean Kane and Toews because they're the last two left.......who else could you mean? Kane and Toews both had their best seasons ever.....'2018-2019' 44/110 35/81 and D-cat had 41/76,even Keith had 40pts and was +13 but the team finished two over because the REST of the team SUCKED and the REST of the team has SUCKED ever since. Kane and Toews were still "good enough to drive a team within reach of a cup" in 18-19 with career numbers but the REST of the team SUCKED with the exception of D-Cat......Keith and Seabs had 69pts combined too. I'm sure the 21M will be utilized so much better and two even greater players will replace our two old stagnant players but if the rest of the team sucks it won't matter. What I'M not okay with is a team that'll SUCK for the next decade but at least 19&88 will be gone. Which two UFA's that can be signed for 21M next summer would make the team an instant contender if we were LUCKY enough to dump Kane and Toews? I never said the team could have been a contender if they dropped the old core. Let's be realistic here: Post 2015 I don't think any could have been realistically moved for a definitive net positive with respect to the team irrespective of their play good or bad, especially with Bowman at the helm. Remember, that was a guy who parlayed 2 years of Panarin at 6M into Saad (who was not effective here in his 2nd run) for Zadorov, and eventually a 3rd rounder. That was a GM who traded Lehner for Malcom Subban. Anyone paying attention knows Bowman the Beancounter, if given the opportunity to trade Kane or Toews, would manage to turn Gasoline into Goat-piss. You've actually stated the problem with the previous years succinctly: With so much money that Bowman the Beancounter paid for scrubs or bottom-tier players like Panik (after a single solid year), DeHaan, Maata, Zadorov, etc., it handcuffed the team--especially expecting that only guys like Toews, Kane, Keith, and Seabrook would be able to carry *them* to a cup. Missing from the equation was a Hossa, Sharp, Hjammer, Campbell/Oduya, and a Crawford (most notably in 2019). With the cash outlaid to those scrub players and with TKKS having banner years, it still wasn't a critical mass for them to go anywhere--and certainly not behind guys like Cam Ward and Colin Delia. for a long time. They were what they were. Even with the core+Debrincat playing as well as they were there was zero chance the 'hawks could have gotten them on the open market even if Bowman the Beancounter *was* trying. They were missing that critical mass of other players who were part of the core or major pieces in winning the past cups. It's doubtful anyone on the 2019 could have fetched one of them on the open market. If Kane and Toews stay, they stay. If they go, they go. If they are resigned it should be for market value and taking into consideration 35+ contracts. My point was that the next GM should NOT do what Bowman the Beancounter did--they need to be realistic about the team as-constructed and the pieces they have. A winning streak should not put the breaks on the rebuild. The future should not be mortgaged. The rebuild has to be taken with guys who have modern Hockey IQ providing good scouting and decisions--not someone who should have stuck to doing the taxes for Binny's Beverage Depot™. Staying horrible is bad, but the purpose should be getting the next gen in as soon as reasonable and developing them properly (i.e. no rushing like Dach). But, for all we know the next contending 'hawks team might be like '71 or '92. I hope not, but it is a possibility seeing as how there are 31 other teams trying to do the same and you should know as well as I do a bad bounce could me the difference between a WCF exit and a cup. I'm actually in agreement with you and jack,trade both now,trade em at the TDL,trade em in the offseason or trade em either of the last few summers,a well-run team,rebuilding team would have done so I believe. BUT,are we rebuilding? Well-run? I just caution those who think it improves the team in any way,we've seen picks,prospects and cap space squandered,let's hope new management does better. Let's say the Hawks retain about half,4M in Kane's trade and 6M in a Toews' trade would be required IMO. Let's say a few high picks and a prospect or two come back. Are the picks more Boqvist,Beaudin and Joker? The prospects more NOlanders and Borgstroms? Is the 10M cleared cap space spent on Johnson,Connolly or another injured vet like Shaw? With Keith dumped and Crawford disrespectfully kicked to the curb,K&T are the last of their era and the next era has so LITTLE interest to me,I'm afraid I disengage at that point.......49 more years?
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Post by steamer on Feb 7, 2022 10:27:04 GMT -6
I never said the team could have been a contender if they dropped the old core. Let's be realistic here: Post 2015 I don't think any could have been realistically moved for a definitive net positive with respect to the team irrespective of their play good or bad, especially with Bowman at the helm. Remember, that was a guy who parlayed 2 years of Panarin at 6M into Saad (who was not effective here in his 2nd run) for Zadorov, and eventually a 3rd rounder. That was a GM who traded Lehner for Malcom Subban. Anyone paying attention knows Bowman the Beancounter, if given the opportunity to trade Kane or Toews, would manage to turn Gasoline into Goat-piss. You've actually stated the problem with the previous years succinctly: With so much money that Bowman the Beancounter paid for scrubs or bottom-tier players like Panik (after a single solid year), DeHaan, Maata, Zadorov, etc., it handcuffed the team--especially expecting that only guys like Toews, Kane, Keith, and Seabrook would be able to carry *them* to a cup. Missing from the equation was a Hossa, Sharp, Hjammer, Campbell/Oduya, and a Crawford (most notably in 2019). With the cash outlaid to those scrub players and with TKKS having banner years, it still wasn't a critical mass for them to go anywhere--and certainly not behind guys like Cam Ward and Colin Delia. for a long time. They were what they were. Even with the core+Debrincat playing as well as they were there was zero chance the 'hawks could have gotten them on the open market even if Bowman the Beancounter *was* trying. They were missing that critical mass of other players who were part of the core or major pieces in winning the past cups. It's doubtful anyone on the 2019 could have fetched one of them on the open market. If Kane and Toews stay, they stay. If they go, they go. If they are resigned it should be for market value and taking into consideration 35+ contracts. My point was that the next GM should NOT do what Bowman the Beancounter did--they need to be realistic about the team as-constructed and the pieces they have. A winning streak should not put the breaks on the rebuild. The future should not be mortgaged. The rebuild has to be taken with guys who have modern Hockey IQ providing good scouting and decisions--not someone who should have stuck to doing the taxes for Binny's Beverage Depot™. Staying horrible is bad, but the purpose should be getting the next gen in as soon as reasonable and developing them properly (i.e. no rushing like Dach). But, for all we know the next contending 'hawks team might be like '71 or '92. I hope not, but it is a possibility seeing as how there are 31 other teams trying to do the same and you should know as well as I do a bad bounce could me the difference between a WCF exit and a cup. I'm actually in agreement with you and jack,trade both now,trade em at the TDL,trade em in the offseason or trade em either of the last few summers,a well-run team,rebuilding team would have done so I believe. BUT,are we rebuilding? Well-run? I just caution those who think it improves the team in any way,we've seen picks,prospects and cap space squandered,let's hope new management does better. Let's say the Hawks retain about half,4M in Kane's trade and 6M in a Toews' trade would be required IMO. Let's say a few high picks and a prospect or two come back. Are the picks more Boqvist,Beaudin and Joker? The prospects more NOlanders and Borgstroms? Is the 10M cleared cap space spent on Johnson,Connolly or another injured vet like Shaw? With Keith dumped and Crawford disrespectfully kicked to the curb,K&T are the last of their era and the next era has so LITTLE interest to me,I'm afraid I disengage at that point.......49 more years? Unfortunately I think you guys have summarized this well and it is not a pretty picture unless there is some magical hit on prospects and trades. A higher management hockey IQ will definitely increase the odds but it's a tough and probably long slog ahead.
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Post by LordKOTL on Feb 7, 2022 13:05:10 GMT -6
I never said the team could have been a contender if they dropped the old core. Let's be realistic here: Post 2015 I don't think any could have been realistically moved for a definitive net positive with respect to the team irrespective of their play good or bad, especially with Bowman at the helm. Remember, that was a guy who parlayed 2 years of Panarin at 6M into Saad (who was not effective here in his 2nd run) for Zadorov, and eventually a 3rd rounder. That was a GM who traded Lehner for Malcom Subban. Anyone paying attention knows Bowman the Beancounter, if given the opportunity to trade Kane or Toews, would manage to turn Gasoline into Goat-piss. You've actually stated the problem with the previous years succinctly: With so much money that Bowman the Beancounter paid for scrubs or bottom-tier players like Panik (after a single solid year), DeHaan, Maata, Zadorov, etc., it handcuffed the team--especially expecting that only guys like Toews, Kane, Keith, and Seabrook would be able to carry *them* to a cup. Missing from the equation was a Hossa, Sharp, Hjammer, Campbell/Oduya, and a Crawford (most notably in 2019). With the cash outlaid to those scrub players and with TKKS having banner years, it still wasn't a critical mass for them to go anywhere--and certainly not behind guys like Cam Ward and Colin Delia. for a long time. They were what they were. Even with the core+Debrincat playing as well as they were there was zero chance the 'hawks could have gotten them on the open market even if Bowman the Beancounter *was* trying. They were missing that critical mass of other players who were part of the core or major pieces in winning the past cups. It's doubtful anyone on the 2019 could have fetched one of them on the open market. If Kane and Toews stay, they stay. If they go, they go. If they are resigned it should be for market value and taking into consideration 35+ contracts. My point was that the next GM should NOT do what Bowman the Beancounter did--they need to be realistic about the team as-constructed and the pieces they have. A winning streak should not put the breaks on the rebuild. The future should not be mortgaged. The rebuild has to be taken with guys who have modern Hockey IQ providing good scouting and decisions--not someone who should have stuck to doing the taxes for Binny's Beverage Depot™. Staying horrible is bad, but the purpose should be getting the next gen in as soon as reasonable and developing them properly (i.e. no rushing like Dach). But, for all we know the next contending 'hawks team might be like '71 or '92. I hope not, but it is a possibility seeing as how there are 31 other teams trying to do the same and you should know as well as I do a bad bounce could me the difference between a WCF exit and a cup. I'm actually in agreement with you and jack,trade both now,trade em at the TDL,trade em in the offseason or trade em either of the last few summers,a well-run team,rebuilding team would have done so I believe. BUT,are we rebuilding? Well-run? I just caution those who think it improves the team in any way,we've seen picks,prospects and cap space squandered,let's hope new management does better. Let's say the Hawks retain about half,4M in Kane's trade and 6M in a Toews' trade would be required IMO. Let's say a few high picks and a prospect or two come back. Are the picks more Boqvist,Beaudin and Joker? The prospects more NOlanders and Borgstroms? Is the 10M cleared cap space spent on Johnson,Connolly or another injured vet like Shaw? With Keith dumped and Crawford disrespectfully kicked to the curb,K&T are the last of their era and the next era has so LITTLE interest to me,I'm afraid I disengage at that point.......49 more years? VVV I'm actually in agreement with you and jack,trade both now,trade em at the TDL,trade em in the offseason or trade em either of the last few summers,a well-run team,rebuilding team would have done so I believe. BUT,are we rebuilding? Well-run? I just caution those who think it improves the team in any way,we've seen picks,prospects and cap space squandered,let's hope new management does better. Let's say the Hawks retain about half,4M in Kane's trade and 6M in a Toews' trade would be required IMO. Let's say a few high picks and a prospect or two come back. Are the picks more Boqvist,Beaudin and Joker? The prospects more NOlanders and Borgstroms? Is the 10M cleared cap space spent on Johnson,Connolly or another injured vet like Shaw? With Keith dumped and Crawford disrespectfully kicked to the curb,K&T are the last of their era and the next era has so LITTLE interest to me,I'm afraid I disengage at that point.......49 more years? Unfortunately I think you guys have summarized this well and it is not a pretty picture unless there is some magical hit on prospects and trades. A higher management hockey IQ will definitely increase the odds but it's a tough and probably long slog ahead. Better scouting, development, and assessment of players will definitely help, but it's not a guarantee. It never is. Even a really great scouting and acquisition team has to have some luck given that every other team is doing the same. May it be 49 years? Who knows. I mean the 'hawks in '92 ran into the powerhouse Penguins. How close were the 'hawks in '71? The most recent group might have had a threepeat if not for an unlucky bounce in 2014. My point was that the last iteration of the upper management tried to milk "one more run" WAY longer than they should have--irrespective of who was movable or not. As hsbob mention multiple times--DeHann? Maata? Guys like that--what purpose did they serve other than hopefully being an ersatz-Oduya/Hjammer to hopefully help Keith and Seabs....and it didn't work. Same with some of the guys up front like Connelly. It might have been because Stan was afraid for his job--and he should have been in spite of the fact that it took a sexual assault scandal to get him out. He was trying to keep the club mired in low-end mediocrity rather that doing the rebuild right even if it meant to very lean years. Now if the next iteration of upper management does more of the same, yeah, it's going to be hard to watch. I am holding out some hope that there will be a change in philosophy. Granted, that can also be expedited by the ticket holder not showing up and voting with their pocketbooks.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Feb 7, 2022 14:27:43 GMT -6
Never heard of him but he's a baseball guy so no thanks, the last one didn't work out that well. Attachments:
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Post by phill9 on Feb 7, 2022 21:00:12 GMT -6
Never heard of this him but he's a baseball guy so no thanks, the last one didn't work out that well. What if he signs Rizzo and Bryant to be the top defensive pairing?
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Post by LordKOTL on Feb 7, 2022 21:36:09 GMT -6
Never heard of this him but he's a baseball guy so no thanks, the last one didn't work out that well. What if he signs Rizzo and Bryant to be the top defensive pairing? Are they any worse the DeHaan and Gus?
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Post by BigT on Feb 8, 2022 6:39:58 GMT -6
Why even waste peoples time? Are they really gonna hire a baseball GM? Really? I get it. They hired Scambo, but at least his dad was around that had some umph to his resume. But in the end. When ole Scotty got, well, old. Scambo was on his own and he looked stupid on his best day.
Let’s hope that the ex players have some good say in this. They need a hockey mind in here. And hopefully the hockey people tell them that!!!
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Post by hsbob on Feb 8, 2022 8:32:24 GMT -6
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Post by LordKOTL on Feb 8, 2022 8:48:03 GMT -6
Why even waste peoples time? Are they really gonna hire a baseball GM? Really? I get it. They hired Scambo, but at least his dad was around that had some umph to his resume. But in the end. When ole Scotty got, well, old. Scambo was on his own and he looked stupid on his best day. Let’s hope that the ex players have some good say in this. They need a hockey mind in here. And hopefully the hockey people tell them that!!! Did they forget what happened the last time a baseball guy was at the helm of the Blackhawks? Yes. I went there.
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Post by phill9 on Feb 8, 2022 9:06:01 GMT -6
Why even waste peoples time? Are they really gonna hire a baseball GM? Really? I get it. They hired Scambo, but at least his dad was around that had some umph to his resume. But in the end. When ole Scotty got, well, old. Scambo was on his own and he looked stupid on his best day. Let’s hope that the ex players have some good say in this. They need a hockey mind in here. And hopefully the hockey people tell them that!!! Did they forget what happened the last time a baseball guy was at the helm of the Blackhawks? Yes. I went there. Why always the Cubs front office? Are they trying to piss off the owner of both the White Sox and Bulls, and co-owner of the UC?
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Post by steamer on Feb 8, 2022 9:59:10 GMT -6
A resounding NO to a baseball guy please! Would rather have Davidson if that’s what it’s going to come down to.
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Post by galaxytrash on Feb 9, 2022 18:36:02 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Feb 9, 2022 23:42:53 GMT -6
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Post by BigT on Feb 10, 2022 14:21:52 GMT -6
I could handle a French Canadian for a while. I only say that because we all know he’ll work for the Habs one day. It’s a pre requisite for Le Francophone!!!
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Post by BigT on Feb 10, 2022 14:30:39 GMT -6
It seems that Darche is coming from a great front office. He more than likely worked with Yzerman. While I’m fearful of inexperienced people. He at least played and understands a dressing room. He understands a championship caliber team. So I’d have to say that I’m on board Darche so far. The Hawks really need an ex player in the front office!!!
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Post by phill9 on Feb 10, 2022 14:36:37 GMT -6
It seems that Darche is coming from a great front office. He more than likely worked with Yzerman. While I’m fearful of inexperienced people. He at least played and understands a dressing room. He understands a championship caliber team. So I’d have to say that I’m on board Darche so far. The Hawks really need an ex player in the front office!!! I'd suggest they go after John Scott then......but that would be a tall order
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Post by T-man2010 on Feb 10, 2022 15:46:58 GMT -6
At least JS is mechanical Engineer and not a bean counter
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Post by nighbor on Feb 10, 2022 23:55:58 GMT -6
At least JS is mechanical Engineer and not a bean counter John Scott the NHL All Star MVP winner.
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