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Post by steamer on Feb 4, 2022 17:32:55 GMT -6
Bettman excuses Wirtz? NHL commissioner Gary Bettman on Friday defended the comments made earlier this week by Chicago Blackhawks owner and chairman Rocky Wirtz on his organization's response to the Kyle Beach scandal. Wirtz gave a confrontational answer to a reporter who asked about how the Blackhawks planned to avoid power imbalances in the future on Wednesday, calling the question 'out of line.' In an appearance Friday on The Point, Bettman spoke for the first time about Wirtz's angry response to questions about Beach. "What we saw from Rocky was frustration," Bettman said. "[It was] an emotional -- I think most media are calling it an outburst -- and the most unfortunate thing about it is, it's completely inconsistent with all the work that the Blackhawks are doing. A lot of personnel have left. [President of Business Operations] Jaime Faulkner and [CEO] Danny Wirtz are really running things day-to-day. They are bringing in a wellness department, they're having training, there's counselling, they know they have to do everything right to create an environment that has an open, welcoming and safe culture. And that's what they're working on. So I just think it was an emotional moment born out of something that I know has weighed very heavily on Rocky and I think [at] the town hall and what he was really focused on was, how do we take all these things we're doing to move forward? And I just think this was just pent-up frustration. And he apologized promptly." es.pn/3Gsgfy7After reading this I scrolled down and read about Pat Verbeek joining the Ducks as GM. He says 5 years for a rebuild. That seems generous when compared to Hawks last rebuild. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Feb 4, 2022 17:43:51 GMT -6
Bettman excuses Wirtz? NHL commissioner Gary Bettman on Friday defended the comments made earlier this week by Chicago Blackhawks owner and chairman Rocky Wirtz on his organization's response to the Kyle Beach scandal. Wirtz gave a confrontational answer to a reporter who asked about how the Blackhawks planned to avoid power imbalances in the future on Wednesday, calling the question 'out of line.' In an appearance Friday on The Point, Bettman spoke for the first time about Wirtz's angry response to questions about Beach. "What we saw from Rocky was frustration," Bettman said. "[It was] an emotional -- I think most media are calling it an outburst -- and the most unfortunate thing about it is, it's completely inconsistent with all the work that the Blackhawks are doing. A lot of personnel have left. [President of Business Operations] Jaime Faulkner and [CEO] Danny Wirtz are really running things day-to-day. They are bringing in a wellness department, they're having training, there's counselling, they know they have to do everything right to create an environment that has an open, welcoming and safe culture. And that's what they're working on. So I just think it was an emotional moment born out of something that I know has weighed very heavily on Rocky and I think [at] the town hall and what he was really focused on was, how do we take all these things we're doing to move forward? And I just think this was just pent-up frustration. And he apologized promptly." es.pn/3Gsgfy7After reading this I scrolled down and read about Pat Verbeek joining the Ducks as GM. He says 5 years for a rebuild. That seems generous when compared to Hawks last rebuild. Anaheim has had a 5 year jump on their rebuild. |
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Post by steamer on Feb 4, 2022 17:52:56 GMT -6
True and Verbeek mentioned he has a head start. The Hawks may not have even hit bottom yet which is a real pleasant thought.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Feb 4, 2022 17:58:37 GMT -6
I haven't heard of Tulsky till today but he'd be an interesting choice. Unlike Bowman who thought he was the smartest person in the room, Tulsky would be. I'm sure he learned a lot in Carolina, especially the past 2yrs as AGM. Mellanby would be my choice though from all the names out there. I started watching hockey not long before his rookie year and Philly was one of my favorite teams, he's a tough no nonsense type of guy who had a long career, that's the type of GM they need. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Feb 4, 2022 19:02:45 GMT -6
I haven't heard of Tulsky till today but he'd be an interesting choice. Unlike Bowman who thought he was the smartest person in the room, Tulsky would be. I'm sure he learned a lot in Carolina, especially the past 2yrs as AGM. Mellanby would be my choice though from all the names out there. I started watching hockey not long before his rookie year and Philly was one of my favorite teams, he's a tough no nonsense type of guy who had a long career, that's the type of GM they need. Since there's no one in the room, it would true that he is. |
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Post by BigT on Feb 4, 2022 22:28:48 GMT -6
True and Verbeek mentioned he has a head start. The Hawks may not have even hit bottom yet which is a real pleasant thought. I think this is going to be the biggest hurdle for the Hawks. It’s going to take one hell of a GM to convince ownership that the inevitable has to be done. Let’s be real here. There isn’t much in the Hawks cupboards. Keeping 19/88 is just for nostalgia and it’s a waste of everyone’s time. This team could be 7-8 years away from seeing any fruit of a rebuild. It takes luck and it takes real hard decisions. Scambo left the team in a worse than horrible state. I think it may be best to scorch earth policy this team and start from ground zero. I don’t see much of value here. I’ve stated that I’d try and build around Jones. If 19/88 are dealt for a good haul of prospects and picks, I keep Jones. If those 2 are staying. I’m looking to unload Jones and recoup some of what was lost. Even just to move that contract would be nice. I fear this thing is gonna carry on for a long long time. I doubt they wield around the “R”’word very much!!! |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Feb 4, 2022 23:08:16 GMT -6
I haven't heard of Tulsky till today but he'd be an interesting choice. Unlike Bowman who thought he was the smartest person in the room, Tulsky would be. I'm sure he learned a lot in Carolina, especially the past 2yrs as AGM. Mellanby would be my choice though from all the names out there. I started watching hockey not long before his rookie year and Philly was one of my favorite teams, he's a tough no nonsense type of guy who had a long career, that's the type of GM they need. As of now Mellanby would be my choice also. Just look at the amount of work that needs to be done they need a long time hockey guy. He will need to come in and evaluate the scouting department. He/she will need to decide what system they are gonna run. Then you need to addresses how they plan to move forward player wise and at the trade deadline, that should keep the person busy for the rest of the year. Then draft and looking for 2 new coaches Hawks and hogs who understand and believe in system. Also during off season will have to look at player development and make adjustments there. There should be a lot of other people in new spots by start of next year. Tulsky will get his shot in a while with a team that is more stable. |
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Post by vadarx on Feb 4, 2022 23:48:35 GMT -6
True and Verbeek mentioned he has a head start. The Hawks may not have even hit bottom yet which is a real pleasant thought. I think this is going to be the biggest hurdle for the Hawks. It’s going to take one hell of a GM to convince ownership that the inevitable has to be done. Let’s be real here. There isn’t much in the Hawks cupboards. Keeping 19/88 is just for nostalgia and it’s a waste of everyone’s time. This team could be 7-8 years away from seeing any fruit of a rebuild. It takes luck and it takes real hard decisions. Scambo left the team in a worse than horrible state. I think it may be best to scorch earth policy this team and start from ground zero. I don’t see much of value here. I’ve stated that I’d try and build around Jones. If 19/88 are dealt for a good haul of prospects and picks, I keep Jones. If those 2 are staying. I’m looking to unload Jones and recoup some of what was lost. Even just to move that contract would be nice. I fear this thing is gonna carry on for a long long time. I doubt they wield around the “R”’word very much!!! I think, after Wednesday night, there is a less than 0% chance of them trading Toews or Kane before mayyyybeeee the deadline next season. they need every bit of help they can muster to put butts in the seats now. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Feb 5, 2022 0:23:03 GMT -6
I think this is going to be the biggest hurdle for the Hawks. It’s going to take one hell of a GM to convince ownership that the inevitable has to be done. Let’s be real here. There isn’t much in the Hawks cupboards. Keeping 19/88 is just for nostalgia and it’s a waste of everyone’s time. This team could be 7-8 years away from seeing any fruit of a rebuild. It takes luck and it takes real hard decisions. Scambo left the team in a worse than horrible state. I think it may be best to scorch earth policy this team and start from ground zero. I don’t see much of value here. I’ve stated that I’d try and build around Jones. If 19/88 are dealt for a good haul of prospects and picks, I keep Jones. If those 2 are staying. I’m looking to unload Jones and recoup some of what was lost. Even just to move that contract would be nice. I fear this thing is gonna carry on for a long long time. I doubt they wield around the “R”’word very much!!! I think, after Wednesday night, there is a less than 0% chance of them trading Toews or Kane before mayyyybeeee the deadline next season. they need every bit of help they can muster to put butts in the seats now. might be the best time to trade them. : ) |
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Post by vadarx on Feb 5, 2022 3:18:05 GMT -6
I think, after Wednesday night, there is a less than 0% chance of them trading Toews or Kane before mayyyybeeee the deadline next season. they need every bit of help they can muster to put butts in the seats now. might be the best time to trade them. : ) they will only be traded if they ask to be, imo. and the return for them will be not what anyone here wants, also imo. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Feb 5, 2022 3:50:47 GMT -6
might be the best time to trade them. : ) they will only be traded if they ask to be, imo. and the return for them will be not what anyone here wants, also imo. i was just horsing around a bit. i got a feeling there's going to be a shitload of empty seats regardless if 19 and 88 are here or somewhere else. |
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Post by vadarx on Feb 5, 2022 4:50:23 GMT -6
they will only be traded if they ask to be, imo. and the return for them will be not what anyone here wants, also imo. i was just horsing around a bit. i got a feeling there's going to be a shitload of empty seats regardless if 19 and 88 are here or somewhere else. likely so. but they'll be able to get some folks to come should, say, Johnny get to 1k games by the end of the season. speaking of Tazer, injuries have really put a damper on him reaching 1k points. at this point, I kinda don't see it happening unless he goes to a better team and gets to play with better players for a couple seasons... |
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Post by BigT on Feb 5, 2022 8:04:13 GMT -6
might be the best time to trade them. : ) they will only be traded if they ask to be, imo. and the return for them will be not what anyone here wants, also imo. I still believe the haul will be quite surprising. We see teams every year go after players and give up everything for marginal players. Toews is the best faceoff guy in the league. Vermette got the Yotes a first and a prospect. I have to think Toews would bring in a couple firsts and a prospect. Or a high end prospect and a first. Kane will bring back the most. Probably 2-3 decent prospects. A roster player and a first. My main point is this. If the Hawks can get 7-8 pieces for those two. That massively helps out a rebuild. I think over the the part of 2 seasons, the Hawks could end up with 6 first rounders and about 8 second rounders. Plus about 7-8 prospects that come back. Now we all know they all won’t make it. But that’s a better start to a rebuild than just having your own picks. The seats are already starting empty. All sports fans are fickle. They only come when they win. If the Hawks seriously believe they can charge the prices they do for a waning product, they e already lost. Faulkner said herself that the product needs to be much better. So I think they’ll be open to anything. I don’t think Toews or Kane are deadline deals. I think outta respect, if they are dealt. It’ll be in the off-season before the draft. But that’s a lot of ifs. So let’s hope the new GM has some gumption!!! |
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Post by phill9 on Feb 5, 2022 8:24:29 GMT -6
they will only be traded if they ask to be, imo. and the return for them will be not what anyone here wants, also imo. I still believe the haul will be quite surprising. We see teams every year go after players and give up everything for marginal players. Toews is the best faceoff guy in the league. Vermette got the Yotes a first and a prospect. I have to think Toews would bring in a couple firsts and a prospect. Or a high end prospect and a first. Kane will bring back the most. Probably 2-3 decent prospects. A roster player and a first. My main point is this. If the Hawks can get 7-8 pieces for those two. That massively helps out a rebuild. I think over the the part of 2 seasons, the Hawks could end up with 6 first rounders and about 8 second rounders. Plus about 7-8 prospects that come back. Now we all know they all won’t make it. But that’s a better start to a rebuild than just having your own picks. The seats are already starting empty. All sports fans are fickle. They only come when they win. If the Hawks seriously believe they can charge the prices they do for a waning product, they e already lost. Faulkner said herself that the product needs to be much better. So I think they’ll be open to anything. I don’t think Toews or Kane are deadline deals. I think outta respect, if they are dealt. It’ll be in the off-season before the draft. But that’s a lot of ifs. So let’s hope the new GM has some gumption!!! But let's not forget who gave up a first and a prospect for Vermette. Whether it be to unload a contract, or bring in a need for a playoff push, Bowman always over paid. That's what's left the cupboards bare in the system. |
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Post by vadarx on Feb 5, 2022 8:35:06 GMT -6
I think one of us is going to be surprised with the returns on a deal involving either, T. I think the problem is there are too many sellers this year. half the east is selling, the playoffs are already nearly decided over there. there might be a few more on the bubble in the west, but not many.
I'm not sure either is traded this year. I think there are enough players that could be moved at the deadline already for whomever will be the new GM. if they do it at the draft, that would open up more teams to trade with, but then Toews or Kane are going to have to be ok with it. are we really sure Toews is going to play much after next season? does he want to finish his run in Chicago or does he agree to moved for one last run? will Kane want to uproot his family or does he just stay in Chicago for the rest of his career, winning be dammed?
it'll be interesting, at least.
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Post by T-man2010 on Feb 5, 2022 9:01:15 GMT -6
I think one of us is going to be surprised with the returns on a deal involving either, T. I think the problem is there are too many sellers this year. half the east is selling, the playoffs are already nearly decided over there. there might be a few more on the bubble in the west, but not many. I'm not sure either is traded this year. I think there are enough players that could be moved at the deadline already for whomever will be the new GM. if they do it at the draft, that would open up more teams to trade with, but then Toews or Kane are going to have to be ok with it. are we really sure Toews is going to play much after next season? does he want to finish his run in Chicago or does he agree to moved for one last run? will Kane want to uproot his family or does he just stay in Chicago for the rest of his career, winning be dammed? it'll be interesting, at least. My thoughts are that Toews will seriously consider retiring after next season due to head issues. Even though he still could go another 3 years afterward skills wise. Kane I think will want to play on a team where he can have fun with linemates like he has with Panarin and D-cat. Plus I think he could be close enough to some more records he can reach as an American born player. I would have to look those up. Plus his family is still young enough they haven't started school yet and he can decide where their family will settle down. I doubt Chicago is that place. I wouldn't. Both players are locks for HOF and number retired by the Hawks plus the hardware they've won already is a pretty full career I'd think. |
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Post by BigT on Feb 5, 2022 9:21:50 GMT -6
I think one of us is going to be surprised with the returns on a deal involving either, T. I think the problem is there are too many sellers this year. half the east is selling, the playoffs are already nearly decided over there. there might be a few more on the bubble in the west, but not many. I'm not sure either is traded this year. I think there are enough players that could be moved at the deadline already for whomever will be the new GM. if they do it at the draft, that would open up more teams to trade with, but then Toews or Kane are going to have to be ok with it. are we really sure Toews is going to play much after next season? does he want to finish his run in Chicago or does he agree to moved for one last run? will Kane want to uproot his family or does he just stay in Chicago for the rest of his career, winning be dammed? it'll be interesting, at least. There is just no way they are traded during the season. No way. So we shouldn’t even talk about them being deadline deals. It just won’t happen. They have the protection in the contract to avoid that. So I don’t think we should be talking about TDL with the duo. My views are that the org will indeed have conversations with them in the off season. Probably a couple weeks after the season the talks will start. The seeds will be planted. If they’re open to it at all, or are open to at least hearing who’s interested. Then the team reaches out to other teams and finds if there’s even interest. If there is. Then the GM can communicate with the players and let them know. The players will call buddies on those teams and see how it is there. Then, the trade negotiations can begin. It’s too long of a process to happen during the season. If they didn’t have and trade protections, a trade is much easier at any time. I still feel they’ll be dealt at some point in the off season. Maybe even the summer. If they stay. Just like I warned everyone of Scambo and his un-hockey mind, I’m warning again. This thing will take a long long time. Just like before. The team was was decimated in the mid 90’s. They only seen the playoffs once in 12 seasons. It’ll be the same. It’ll be hard to find hope!!! |
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Post by BigT on Feb 5, 2022 9:25:27 GMT -6
Also, for those worried there’s no leaders and such. The team can easily go sign an Eric Staal or someone like that. I wouldn’t worry too much about leadership. I heard a lot of players even ex Hawks on podcasts talking about how awesome Aucoin was and Lapointe. We can find leadership. It’s everywhere!!!
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Post by hsbob on Feb 5, 2022 9:49:15 GMT -6
Sure the team should have been rebuilding for 2-3 years now but are you saying the team would be a contender again if they would only have dumped Kane and Toews 5-6 yeaes ago? You'll be "okay" if the team isn't 100% successful(LOFL) just as long as they move on from the old era.......you might have to suffer another year of Kane and Toews.....hope you can endure. By "dragging the previous era along",you have to mean Kane and Toews because they're the last two left.......who else could you mean? Kane and Toews both had their best seasons ever.....'2018-2019' 44/110 35/81 and D-cat had 41/76,even Keith had 40pts and was +13 but the team finished two over because the REST of the team SUCKED and the REST of the team has SUCKED ever since. Kane and Toews were still "good enough to drive a team within reach of a cup" in 18-19 with career numbers but the REST of the team SUCKED with the exception of D-Cat......Keith and Seabs had 69pts combined too. I'm sure the 21M will be utilized so much better and two even greater players will replace our two old stagnant players but if the rest of the team sucks it won't matter. What I'M not okay with is a team that'll SUCK for the next decade but at least 19&88 will be gone. Which two UFA's that can be signed for 21M next summer would make the team an instant contender if we were LUCKY enough to dump Kane and Toews? Let's say they trade K&T for McDavid and Draisaitl to give the Hawks the best trade off for K&T, even tho, I know this is not a realistic scenario. This would still be a trash team, which underscores the point that K&T alone were not going to save this team because it is too undermanned at the rest of the positions needed to make a contending team, So, what does that mean? To me, it means that since they were not going to be relevant with K&T, the rebuild needed to start asap and that meant trying to get what they could get for those guys to make a team as best as possible without them. That is not to knock K&T. That is simply to acknowledge that K&T were not going to lead an undermanned team to contention because it takes more than two to tango in the NHL. The alternative to trading them off a couple/few years ago is just what you see today----a garbage imitation of a real team. I've been on board with moving K&T for a few summers now but if anyone thinks that's some panacea for what ails the Org.....they're kidding themselves. We've seen picks and prospects squandered and 20M mis-spent a few years back too,as I've pointed out a million times. We pay Connolly and Johnson 8.5M next year,Connolly 5M for 3 more but move along......nothing to see here. YES,a timely trade by a well run Org would have been necessary for a proper rebuild but the picks and prospects still have to work out and the available space has to be spent correctly........that doesn't describe our last FO and God help us on our next FO! The ideal time to move K&T(if they waived) was after the 18-19 season,they had career years,which adds massive value and they were only 30 but does the fanbase understand the move after career years? I do agree with you as far as not being able to win with the two players,if the team was only 2 over with the years 12,19 and 88 had (120gls 267pts), something was indeed rotten.....even Keith had 40pts and a +13.......shoulda blown it up if you're only 2 over with those performances. I disagree as far as your last sentance,they coulda traded K&T a couple/few years ago and still been a garbage team now........what gives you confidence they wouldn't? So NO,it would not have been an alterative,it woulda been more picks,prospects and cap space to squander.......once again,not a panacea for what ails the Org! |
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Post by squishy24 on Feb 5, 2022 9:55:40 GMT -6
here is a scary thought, we all know a rebuild is needed and that would take 7-8 yrs (5 at least), what are the chances that the Org isn't looking to rebuild and is looking for a GM that is willing to say "yea my plan is to win the cup asap" and that plan is to further trade picks and prospects for established players. Just like how Rutherford did it with the Pens. Honestly, i think this is the reason why Chiarelli is in the picture
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Post by hsbob on Feb 5, 2022 10:33:08 GMT -6
here is a scary thought, we all know a rebuild is needed and that would take 7-8 yrs (5 at least), what are the chances that the Org isn't looking to rebuild and is looking for a GM that is willing to say "yea my plan is to win the cup asap" and that plan is to further trade picks and prospects for established players. Just like how Rutherford did it with the Pens. Honestly, i think this is the reason why Chiarelli is in the picture Someone brought up a question of rebuilding the other night and I thought Danny skillfully avoided it,this is something we'll have to get used to from the intelligent, smooth talking CEO. I believe he said something to the effect "it's up to the next GM" which I have to doubt to be honest,I dam near guarantee that would have to be cleared by not only Danny........Rocky is still in charge,and he proved it the other night. The league seems to concur. The fan questions were clearly screened and mostly benign and the reporters got yelled at but I'd love to ask Danny(Rocky'd probably answer though) if the Org is willing to go through a few more bad years to acquire the proper rebuilding assets even if it meant a drop-off in attendance? Doesn't matter though because I know the answer..........'NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!!!!' LOFL!!!!!! Who TF thinks you can build around an old,concussed Toews,an old Kane in need of hip surgery,an old,unsigned MAF,D-Cat,Hagel and Jones? |
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Post by hsbob on Feb 5, 2022 11:10:21 GMT -6
If a team grants an AC an interview,does that mean they'll let him leave before the year's up if he gets the job? I don't recall this situation for any team in the middle of a season but we're not just any team!LOL!
Some big decisions coming around the TDL and they claim they'll have a full time GM by then. I'm not sold on KD but I might let him roll through the TDL decisions just to see what he's made of,if you don't like what you saw,you search for a GM right after season's end when more guys are available. The 'search by committee' and the 'towhhowl' both seem more like promotions to steer attention than anything else.
What a shitshow!
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Post by BigT on Feb 5, 2022 11:17:36 GMT -6
My main concern is that they keep KD. He’s very young and not ready. Which means he’s very impressionable. The Wirtz’s will have their way with him. It’s a situation I think can be avoided. By no means do I believe he should be let go. But he’s in his early 30s and just not ready. 1 year of doing Scambo’s laundry is not enough. Maybe when he’s 40. You need men in there, not kids. This is why I’d like to see Scott Mellanby get a shot. But I highly doubt they go that route!!!
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Post by bigbarn27 on Feb 5, 2022 11:45:44 GMT -6
might be the best time to trade them. : ) they will only be traded if they ask to be, imo. and the return for them will be not what anyone here wants, also imo. I dont see either asking or agreeing to it. Why? They have 3 cups they will get statues made of them they will first year hall of famers. Any where they go they have to win the cup anything less will taint legacy. There is a lot to be said in these times about comfort just ask Corey he left 7 mil on the table. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Feb 5, 2022 11:48:21 GMT -6
My main concern is that they keep KD. He’s very young and not ready. Which means he’s very impressionable. The Wirtz’s will have their way with him. It’s a situation I think can be avoided. By no means do I believe he should be let go. But he’s in his early 30s and just not ready. 1 year of doing Scambo’s laundry is not enough. Maybe when he’s 40. You need men in there, not kids. This is why I’d like to see Scott Mellanby get a shot. But I highly doubt they go that route!!! Mellanby would be my #1 from the guys listed so far. Hopefully Hoss, Sharp, and Eddie agree and actually have a lot of say in it. Davidson and Tulsky seem like better assistant GMs because they're more analytic guys who haven't played the game, but they're better yes men for the Wirtz', something Scott isn't. And no way Tulsky would leave Carolina for the same position here. |
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Post by acesandeights on Feb 5, 2022 12:29:02 GMT -6
My main concern is that they keep KD. He’s very young and not ready. Which means he’s very impressionable. The Wirtz’s will have their way with him. It’s a situation I think can be avoided. By no means do I believe he should be let go. But he’s in his early 30s and just not ready. 1 year of doing Scambo’s laundry is not enough. Maybe when he’s 40. You need men in there, not kids. This is why I’d like to see Scott Mellanby get a shot. But I highly doubt they go that route!!! Mellanby would be my #1 from the guys listed so far. Hopefully Hoss, Sharp, and Eddie agree and actually have a lot of say in it. Davidson and Tulsky seem like better assistant GMs because they're more analytic guys who haven't played the game, but they're better yes men for the Wirtz', something Scott isn't. And no way Tulsky would leave Carolina for the same position here. The article is dated yesterday, the 4th. The writer also mentions he's not real high on Peter Chiarelli. www.bleachernation.com/blackhawks/2022/02/04/scott-mellanby-will-reportedly-interview-for-the-blackhawks-gm-position/ |
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Post by jacksalmon on Feb 5, 2022 12:53:19 GMT -6
Yes, that was a big mistake. I don't know if Toews/Kane would have been willing to be traded since 2018, but my guess is that the idea was never discussed because Bowman always thought he was smart enough to put a Cup team together using those two guys and whoever else he could obtain (Fleury, Jones). But, by doing that, he blew the chance to rebuild team and approach success by another method. Now, in my opinion, they are stuck in no man's land with no transmission of their SOS signals and little chance of getting out of their hole for a long time. There are just too many moves that have to go just right to accomplish that and the odds are very long against that happening. Honestly it's not so much about moving Toews and Kane proper, but making sure that they are not the go-to guys. It's been an issue with Kane and was even a bigger issue with Keith. If Toews and Kane aren't moved and are not to be the "go-to guys", how do they get "go-to guys"? They sure aren't passing the time in Rockford. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Feb 5, 2022 12:59:32 GMT -6
that tulsky guy from carolina would be a bold pick imo. according to his linkedin page, this is only his 8th year in hockey. the guy's a freaking harvard/berkely trained scientist. idk how you get from "Synthesis of novel colloidal nanoparticles" and "Nanoscience project leader for single molecule DNA sequencing program" to being gainfully employed in the hockey world but there is a path, obviously. it seems an analytic guy like him would be better suited in an assistant or advisory role. i am a big fan of analytics, though. i read about this guy and i immediately think of the character jonah hill played in " moneyball". edit: i tried to post his linkedin page, but it's not showing. it's an easy enough google search if you are interested. It's a very good movie and I think about it occasionally in relation to hockey. However, baseball is really not that much of a team sport. It's much more heavily tilted towards the individual's analytics. I don't know whether you can translate this into hockey.
On the other hand, maybe he can DNA sequence a few top line players for the Hawks. Drafting is so last millenium!Brilliant idea, then they can move on to cloning. But, for desperate fans, they will have to speed up the current human maturation process which would take 20 years to produce the players you want on the team. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Feb 5, 2022 17:05:36 GMT -6
It's a very good movie and I think about it occasionally in relation to hockey. However, baseball is really not that much of a team sport. It's much more heavily tilted towards the individual's analytics. I don't know whether you can translate this into hockey.
On the other hand, maybe he can DNA sequence a few top line players for the Hawks. Drafting is so last millenium!Brilliant idea, then they can move on to cloning. But, for desperate fans, they will have to speed up the current human maturation process which would take 20 years to produce the players you want on the team. We're still waiting for the 20 Hossa clones they started in 2010. They're about 11 right now, so in 9 more years and they'll dominate hockey for 15 years. |
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Post by hsbob on Feb 6, 2022 9:20:00 GMT -6
Honestly it's not so much about moving Toews and Kane proper, but making sure that they are not the go-to guys. It's been an issue with Kane and was even a bigger issue with Keith. If Toews and Kane aren't moved and are not to be the "go-to guys", how do they get "go-to guys"? They sure aren't passing the time in Rockford. C'mon jack,you can hold your nose for one more year can't ya? Like I said,I been okay with moving both guys for a few years now but really only to see me play for better teams but if you think trading them guarantees we get new "go-to guys".........you might be real disappointed. |
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