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Post by OldTimeHawky on Apr 11, 2022 20:18:29 GMT -6
Lanks has been a bit inconsistent and why should we expect much better given the play of his teammates? I would still rather see him again next year than any other alternative. I actually think that as bad the team is, the goalies are the weak link at the moment. Lanks has been absolutely atrocious. Two goals bouncing of his back in recent games. He often seems to be wandering far away from the net for no apparent reason (maybe looking for his car keys?)...anyways, he's been awful. Delia let in a softie as well at the least opportune time. Delia has reached his potential, and it's not even good for an occasional backup. Rebuild or not, I don't believe that the Hawks can plod along with what they have in the net. Delia was at least. 900 and that goal was a lucky bounce but if the D actually played D there would've been someone covering the far side. de Haan shouldn't have chased him behind the net and Jones should've covered the other side, that's basic D. That's on Crawford because he still implements the man on man coverage with dmen running all over the zone and screening their goalie. Gotta get new coaches for next season, hopefully a D coach that keeps it simple. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 12, 2022 16:52:08 GMT -6
moved 22 non-related (to goaltending) posts to the debrincat thread.
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 12, 2022 23:08:50 GMT -6
before the trade deadline:
chicago 3.44 gaa .421 pts.%
minny 3.15 gaa .639 pts.%
since the trade deadline:
chicago 4.10 gaa .300 pts.% (10 games)
minny 2.45 gaa .818 pts.% (11 games)
it isn't all goaltending. this is a combination of the goalies, the team effort and the coaches.
but it does go to show the difference a bonafide #1 goalie can provide.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Apr 13, 2022 4:55:37 GMT -6
before the trade deadline: chicago 3.44 gaa .421 pts.% minny 3.15 gaa .639 pts.% since the trade deadline: chicago 4.10 gaa .300 pts.% (10 games) minny 2.45 gaa .818 pts.% (11 games) it isn't all goaltending. this is a combination of the goalies, the team effort and the coaches. but it does go to show the difference a bonafide #1 goalie can provide. The numbers don't lie, Minny was still giving up a lot before but they had a high win percentage because they can score, Hawks can't score or keep the puck out. I hate to say it but Guerin has built a good team over there. Lankinen and Delia aren't #1 goalies and may never be. Goalies generally take longer to develop but neither goalie has looked like they'll be that guy. Not sure what KD and Mac are planning but it'll be an interesting offseason. Do they give one or both a short contract or let them go, and what vet would wanna play here? |
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 13, 2022 7:20:52 GMT -6
^^
I think there are always a lot of veteran goalies just chasing ice time.
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Post by LordKOTL on Apr 13, 2022 9:19:19 GMT -6
before the trade deadline: chicago 3.44 gaa .421 pts.% minny 3.15 gaa .639 pts.% since the trade deadline: chicago 4.10 gaa .300 pts.% (10 games) minny 2.45 gaa .818 pts.% (11 games) it isn't all goaltending. this is a combination of the goalies, the team effort and the coaches. but it does go to show the difference a bonafide #1 goalie can provide. A number 1 goalie can take a bottom-3 team and keep them in the playoff hunt. See also: Crawford 2017/2018. The flipside is that an outstanding goaltender can mask shitty play by the team defense to the point where a shitty GM can't tell the difference. See also: Crawford 2017/2018 and Marc-Andre Fleury: 2021-2022. But you are correct: the issue with the 'hawks goal-prevention is systemic. Not everything is on Lankinen/Delia, but a sizable chunk is. Not everything is on the team defense, but a sizable chunk is. Not everything is on the coaching, but a sizable chunk is. I think at the bare minimum the coaching staff has to go. King, like his predecessor, is so far out of his depth he needs water wings. Crawford has done jack and shit with the defense. I'm also hoping McI and Davidson want their own guys in and do a clean sweep of both Chicago and Rockford. I think the team defense will take the longest to sort out no thanks to Bowman the Beancounter loading us up with albatross contracts. As for netminding? I could see one or both of Lankinen or Delia walking, or even both given a 1-year minimum "Show me" deal. But as I've harped on before, I think the 'hawks should bring in a cheap vet as the 1B. No one in the goalie cupboards should be gifted a roster slot next season and having all of the prospects play for a single slot should help. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 13, 2022 12:07:18 GMT -6
Delia signed a 1yr contract with Vancouver.
If Lankinen goes as well that leaves Mrazek and Stalock in the push for Bedard.
Soderblom will be the Hogs starter with Stauber and Weeks battling for the backup spot.
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Post by T-man2010 on Jul 13, 2022 12:12:07 GMT -6
Delia signed a 1yr contract with Vancouver. If Lankinen goes as well that leaves Mrazek and Stalock in the push for Bedard. Soderblom will be the Hogs starter with Stauber and Weeks battling for the backup spot. Either one can be used in Indy on the Fuel then. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 13, 2022 12:15:01 GMT -6
Delia signed a 1yr contract with Vancouver. If Lankinen goes as well that leaves Mrazek and Stalock in the push for Bedard. Soderblom will be the Hogs starter with Stauber and Weeks battling for the backup spot. Either one can be used in Indy on the Fuel then. Exactly, one will be the Fuels starter. |
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Post by tincup on Jul 14, 2022 9:09:11 GMT -6
So much for him, still think there was potential in him.
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Post by steamer on Jul 14, 2022 9:18:42 GMT -6
I liked Lankinen and hope he lands in a good spot. Not sure he could start anywhere this coming season but would be a reliable backup and if he can perform, then maybe get his chance.
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Post by tincup on Jul 14, 2022 15:33:30 GMT -6
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Post by 2old4this on Jul 14, 2022 15:48:48 GMT -6
before the trade deadline: chicago 3.44 gaa .421 pts.% minny 3.15 gaa .639 pts.% since the trade deadline: chicago 4.10 gaa .300 pts.% (10 games) minny 2.45 gaa .818 pts.% (11 games) it isn't all goaltending. this is a combination of the goalies, the team effort and the coaches. but it does go to show the difference a bonafide #1 goalie can provide. Which is exactly why we can't have one. HE hits a hot streak and BOOM, we're out of the Connor Bedard sweepstakes. |
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Post by steamer on Jul 17, 2022 9:39:02 GMT -6
I’m too lazy to check on last season but was Mrazek good? Bad? Is he the reason Leafs disappointed in the playoffs yet again.
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Post by mvr on Jul 17, 2022 9:46:51 GMT -6
Mrazek had big time injury issues last year. For his career, he is a below average starting goalie who can be counted on for roughly a .900-905 save percentage.
He is no Crawford/Fleury, but if healthy, he would be an upgrade on Lankinen/Delia. But there is a reason why the Leafs wanted to get rid of him. The risk here is high.
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Post by T-man2010 on Jul 17, 2022 9:49:04 GMT -6
I’m too lazy to check on last season but was Mrazek good? Bad? Is he the reason Leafs disappointed in the playoffs yet again. He was average during the season. 20 GP, 18 GS, 12-6 record 3.34 GAA and .888 SV% He did not play a game in the Playoffs. |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 17, 2022 12:34:50 GMT -6
Mrazek had big time injury issues last year. For his career, he is a below average starting goalie who can be counted on for roughly a .900-905 save percentage. He is no Crawford/Fleury, but if healthy, he would be an upgrade on Lankinen/Delia. But there is a reason why the Leafs wanted to get rid of him. The risk here is high. yeah, his groin is no bueno. I'll be surprised if he plays a full season either of the next two years... |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 17, 2022 14:16:15 GMT -6
Mrazek had big time injury issues last year. For his career, he is a below average starting goalie who can be counted on for roughly a .900-905 save percentage. He is no Crawford/Fleury, but if healthy, he would be an upgrade on Lankinen/Delia. But there is a reason why the Leafs wanted to get rid of him. The risk here is high. Even with last seasons 20gms his save percentage for his career in .909, yes his groin is a big question mark but the season before his save percentage was .923. But if he hasn't recovered they have a small guy in his mid 30's who missed a season because of a heart condition. Perfect for a tank job to get a top3 pick. |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 17, 2022 14:22:33 GMT -6
Mrazek had big time injury issues last year. For his career, he is a below average starting goalie who can be counted on for roughly a .900-905 save percentage. He is no Crawford/Fleury, but if healthy, he would be an upgrade on Lankinen/Delia. But there is a reason why the Leafs wanted to get rid of him. The risk here is high. Even with last seasons 20gms his save percentage for his career in .909, yes his groin is a big question mark but the season before his save percentage was .923. But if he hasn't recovered they have a small guy in his mid 30's who missed a season because of a heart condition. Perfect for a tank job to get a top3 pick. yeah, but the season before he was playing with the 'canes and their team d in front of him... I think both are perfect for a tank. they'll ride Mrazek for a couple years and then actually address the situation, imo. |
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Post by 2old4this on Jul 17, 2022 14:26:56 GMT -6
IIRC, Mrazak was traded because they needed the cap space.
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Post by steamer on Jul 17, 2022 15:04:05 GMT -6
Will Commesso be ready in 2-3 years?
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 17, 2022 18:21:22 GMT -6
Will Commesso be ready in 2-3 years? no idea. he'll be starting his 3rd season at boston university this year. i'm not sure if he's planning for a 4th year. i will say he seems quite humble and dedicated in this interview. definitely says all the right things. youngest goalie to ever start an olympic hockey game in U.S. history. (2 games, 2 wins...1.00 gaa and a .964% was his stat line there) his 20th birthday is in 2 days. |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jul 17, 2022 19:26:53 GMT -6
Mrazek had big time injury issues last year. For his career, he is a below average starting goalie who can be counted on for roughly a .900-905 save percentage. He is no Crawford/Fleury, but if healthy, he would be an upgrade on Lankinen/Delia. But there is a reason why the Leafs wanted to get rid of him. The risk here is high. yeah, his groin is no bueno. I'll be surprised if he plays a full season either of the next two years... Yup and Stalock has injury issues also I think |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 17, 2022 19:52:40 GMT -6
yeah, his groin is no bueno. I'll be surprised if he plays a full season either of the next two years... Yup and Stalock has injury issues also I think i think OTH mentioned it already, but this is from his wiki page... He missed the entirety of the season through myocarditis, after complications from COVID-19. (20/21 season) myocarditis is a swelling of the heart. other than a severed nerve behind his knee in 2011, it doesn't mention any other injuries. but it did say he was "rehabilitating an injury" prior to his myocarditis diagnosis, although it didn't mention what the injury was. so imo it doesn't seem like he is injury prone, just prone to bad luck. (if there's a difference) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Stalockedit: many of the talking heads on twitter seem to agree that he's a "bad goalie" who "fits the tank". this talking head thinks i'm pretty sure they wouldn't intentionally sign a bad goalie to lose games but we'll see i guess. |
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Post by 2old4this on Jul 17, 2022 21:06:49 GMT -6
The art is to appear like you aren't tanking when you are. I can accept and approve tanking by management. Tanking by the players however, is a no-no. If fans see the players giving less than their all, it will be really hard to sell tickets to the farce.
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Post by Tater on Jul 18, 2022 0:28:57 GMT -6
no idea. he'll be starting his 3rd season at boston university this year. i'm not sure if he's planning for a 4th year. i will say he seems quite humble and dedicated in this interview. definitely says all the right things. youngest goalie to ever start an olympic hockey game in U.S. history. (2 games, 2 wins...1.00 gaa and a .964% was his stat line there) his 20th birthday is in 2 days. Wow, what a well-grounded kid. He will be very easy to route for when he makes it here. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 18, 2022 5:25:02 GMT -6
Will Commesso be ready in 2-3 years? no idea. he'll be starting his 3rd season at boston university this year. i'm not sure if he's planning for a 4th year. i will say he seems quite humble and dedicated in this interview. definitely says all the right things. youngest goalie to ever start an olympic hockey game in U.S. history. (2 games, 2 wins...1.00 gaa and a .964% was his stat line there) his 20th birthday is in 2 days. I like those CHGO podcasts, Commesso definitely seems like a humble level headed kid. Hopefully he has a great career like the last 2nd round goalie they drafted, Crawford. That's awesome he was the youngest goalie to ever start in the Olympics and put up great numbers. |
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Post by steamer on Jul 18, 2022 7:00:24 GMT -6
I have to say Commesso gives a great interview for a 20 year old. I hope he has a sensational season at BU.
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Post by BigT on Jul 18, 2022 9:48:27 GMT -6
no idea. he'll be starting his 3rd season at boston university this year. i'm not sure if he's planning for a 4th year. i will say he seems quite humble and dedicated in this interview. definitely says all the right things. youngest goalie to ever start an olympic hockey game in U.S. history. (2 games, 2 wins...1.00 gaa and a .964% was his stat line there) his 20th birthday is in 2 days. I like those CHGO podcasts, Commesso definitely seems like a humble level headed kid. Hopefully he has a great career like the last 2nd round goalie they drafted, Crawford. That's awesome he was the youngest goalie to ever start in the Olympics and put up great numbers. I agree. It’s a very informative podcast for Hawks fans. I listen to them on my long drives. Zawaski is a beaut!!! |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 27, 2022 16:21:23 GMT -6
interesting read about mrazek, this one quote in particular: Four years ago, Mrazek was being counted out just like he is now. His once-promising Red Wings tenure flamed out, and he posted an .891 save percentage in 17 games for the Flyers at the end of the 2017-18 season. The Flyers didn’t give him a qualifying offer, letting him walk as a free agent.
But Mrazek personally called Hurricanes general manager Don Waddell on July 1 — without the knowledge of his agent, Gerry Johannson —and asked for a one-year contract at $1.5 million. Johansson was initially baffled by Mrazek’s rogue and below-market-value ask, Waddell recounted to The Athletic in October 2018, but eventually relented.i mean...for a player just to up and phone an NHL g.m. to peddle his services? it's not the route most players take. i thought it was kind of funny actually. hopefully mrazek has a healthy season first and foremost. if he does the rest ought to take care of itself. chicago.suntimes.com/blackhawks/2022/7/27/23281305/petr-mrazek-blackhawks-new-goalie-hurricanes-maple-leafs-injuries |
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