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Post by BigT on Jun 22, 2024 12:01:54 GMT -6
I have a feeling there’s a lot of pressure from the players. Seth said 2 mouthfuls on what he doesn’t care for a lot. And Dicky said it’s tough for team unity when you have a bunch of guys on one year deals. Foligno spoke up. KD will be the GM no one wants to sign with if he keeps on tanking. But…….. I know this hurts to say. I believe the Hawks truly need one more tank year. Get another top 3 pick. Next years draft is gonna be good too. Hawks could really use another nice piece. Especially if they take Levshunov. Gonna have to find a lot of guys in trades and UFA. Not many top 6 players will be on this team!!! I suppose this may be more a matter of semantics than intent - but I don't think the Hawks need or want another tank year. If they fall into a top-3 pick or even a top-5 pick - that would be great, but unlike the past two seasons I believe the Hawks intent is to play appreciably better and NOT prioritize where they end up in the draft order. The good news, so to speak, is that even with appreciably better play they still have a high probability of ending low enough in the standings to be in a top-5 draft position before the ping pong balls drop. Look at the 2023/24 bottom feeders - they all have exciting young players already playing or joining the team this season. All those teams should improve, including the Hawks. However, they could all improve and still be among the bottom feeders next season. I don’t believe in purposely tanking and making a miserable environment. I want a good coach, strip down the roster to get as many draft picks as I can. And if the roster and standings suffer, so be it. What I’m saying is I wouldn’t add that much to the roster. This is to gain access to better players at the top of the draft board. I feel that another down year will get the Hawks one step closer to the final goal. Hawks could get pick 8-9 next year with improvements. Still might be a decent player. But the team needs more top end talent. Only had one top pick, now a 2nd top pick. I think a team needs about 4 years of solid drafting. A team could draft 50 kids in that time with extra draft capital. I’m not against them speeding it up a bit. But next year isn’t gonna be an amazing year anyway, so I’d rather cash in on a better player in the end!!! |
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Post by tincup on Jun 25, 2024 10:24:26 GMT -6
One more step on the way to mimicking Euro teams and becoming skating billboatds.
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Post by Tater on Jun 25, 2024 11:39:44 GMT -6
One more step on the way to mimicking Euro teams and becoming skating billboatds.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 25, 2024 14:56:49 GMT -6
just from what I've gathered from the Powers article today, I'd say Necas is probably not happening. the 'hawks don't have the type of players the 'canes want for him and they also don't seem inclined to overpay for Necas.
whomever the 'hawks take @ 2 will determine a lot as far as free agency goes, but they will be looking for a vet d-man regardless.
Turbo might be down with coming back to Chicago.
M² is likely to remain on an AHL deal next season.
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Post by Granada on Jun 25, 2024 15:29:25 GMT -6
just from what I've gathered from the Powers article today, I'd say Necas is probably not happening. the 'hawks don't have the type of players the 'canes want for him and they also don't seem inclined to overpay for Necas. whomever the 'hawks take @ 2 will determine a lot as far as free agency goes, but they will be looking for a vet d-man regardless. Turbo might be down with coming back to Chicago. M² is likely to remain on an AHL deal.jext season. Can't say I'd want Turbo back personally. Never been a playoff performer, small, turns 30 in September. I kinda hope the Hawks look elsewhere, but then again, they may have to take what they can get. I can't see a lot of players wanting to come here without being overpaid. |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 25, 2024 15:43:53 GMT -6
just from what I've gathered from the Powers article today, I'd say Necas is probably not happening. the 'hawks don't have the type of players the 'canes want for him and they also don't seem inclined to overpay for Necas. whomever the 'hawks take @ 2 will determine a lot as far as free agency goes, but they will be looking for a vet d-man regardless. Turbo might be down with coming back to Chicago. M² is likely to remain on an AHL deal.jext season. Can't say I'd want Turbo back personally. Never been a playoff performer, small, turns 30 in September. I kinda hope the Hawks look elsewhere, but then again, they may have to take what they can get. I can't see a lot of players wanting to come here without being overpaid. I thought the same, but I guess we will take what we can get. |
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Post by Hockey is great on Jun 25, 2024 15:59:59 GMT -6
I’ll guess the hawks July first signings consist of
Lw Dakota Joshua 2 years $4.5 aav
C Yakov Trenin 2yrs $4.0 aav
Rw Teuvo Tereveinan 2yrs $6.5 aav
D Josh Brown 1yr $2.0 aav
D Roland McKeown 2yrs $775k aav
G Igor Samsonov 1yr $2.5 aav
Trade Lw Philipp Kurashev to Winnepeg for Lw Rutger McGroarty D Nate Schmidt
1rd 2p Rw Ivan Demidov
Roster
Lw Rutger McGroarty
Lw Taylor Hall
Lw Nick Foligno
C Connor Bedard
C Frank Nazar
C Jason Dickinson
C Yakov Trenin
Rw 86 Teuvo Tereveinan
Rw Lukas Reichel
Rw Dakota Joshua
Rw Andreas Anthanasiou
Rw Joey Anderson
D Alex Vlasic
D Seth Jones
D Kevin Korchinski
D Connor Murphy
D Wyatt Kaiser
D Josh Brown
D Nate Schmidt
G Petr Mrazek
G Ilya Samsonov
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Post by BigT on Jun 25, 2024 16:42:29 GMT -6
Sounds like Tanev will be a right D in Chicago.
Also. KD did say he’s looking for good vets to help the kids. Tanev will be one. Other is Dakota. There may be more, but we’ll see!!!
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Post by Hockey is great on Jun 25, 2024 16:59:35 GMT -6
Sounds like Tanev will be a right D in Chicago. Also. KD did say he’s looking for good vets to help the kids. Tanev will be one. Other is Dakota. There may be more, but we’ll see!!! where did you see that about tanev? |
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Post by BigT on Jun 25, 2024 17:18:53 GMT -6
Sounds like Tanev will be a right D in Chicago. Also. KD did say he’s looking for good vets to help the kids. Tanev will be one. Other is Dakota. There may be more, but we’ll see!!! where did you see that about tanev? JayZ was talking about this. I also heard from a few other rumour mills. He’s a rhd that’s a vet. He can help along KK. That’s what they’re looking for. KD said he’s not looking to bring in many youthful pieces as the Hawks have to see their own first. So I’d look for the Hawks to target Tanev or Myers!!! |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 25, 2024 17:21:33 GMT -6
nothing groundbreaking here really...
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 25, 2024 18:25:58 GMT -6
One more step on the way to mimicking Euro teams and becoming skating billboatds. i hope not. |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 25, 2024 19:11:15 GMT -6
One more step on the way to mimicking Euro teams and becoming skating billboatds. i hope not. gross. the one with all the adds on it sucks, too. |
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Post by Nikos on Jun 25, 2024 20:20:11 GMT -6
gross. the one with all the adds on it sucks, too. One of the most iconic emblems on a jersey in any sport and they ruin it for greed. |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 25, 2024 20:31:14 GMT -6
don't the golden Knights have the same patch on their sweaters?
nm, indeed they do. even more lame.
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Post by squishy24 on Jun 26, 2024 0:02:18 GMT -6
Trivia-
2017-2018 Dmen that played 30+ games that year for the Hawks - in order of games played
Keith, Seabs, Murphy, Rutta, Oesterle, Forsling, Gustafsson, Kempny
Four of these were in the “top pair” D for Stanley cup winning teams (and no, Seabs is not one of them)
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Post by vadarx on Jun 26, 2024 1:29:44 GMT -6
Trivia- 2017-2018 Dmen that played 30+ games that year for the Hawks - in order of games played Keith, Seabs, Murphy, Rutta, Oesterle, Forsling, Gustafsson, Kempny Four of these were in the “top pair” D for Stanley cup winning teams (and no, Seabs is not one of them) Keith, Rutta, Kempny, Forsling. |
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Post by LordKOTL on Jun 26, 2024 9:59:23 GMT -6
Trivia- 2017-2018 Dmen that played 30+ games that year for the Hawks - in order of games played Keith, Seabs, Murphy, Rutta, Oesterle, Forsling, Gustafsson, Kempny Four of these were in the “top pair” D for Stanley cup winning teams (and no, Seabs is not one of them) Depressing D year for us. |
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Post by Granada on Jun 26, 2024 10:33:13 GMT -6
One more step on the way to mimicking Euro teams and becoming skating billboatds. This is such horse shit. I remember on the former board I was on, I was pissed about the helmet ad, and the posters there were saying it wasn't a big deal. I said it'd be a slippery slope. Here we are. Ads everywhere: helmets, e-boards, jerseys. It'll just get worse. I love how Faulkner tries to spin this as a good thing: “Sports betting has continued to grow in popularity among our fans and offered new ways for them to engage with our game,” Blackhawks President of Business Operations Jaime Faulkner said. “We couldn’t be prouder to be adding Circa Sports to the Chicago Blackhawks roster of partners as they share in our goals to grow interest in our game and offer fans exciting and original experiences.” www.nhl.com/blackhawks/news/release-blackhawks-name-circa-sports-as-official-home-jersey-patch-partnerI'm sorry but she is fucking clueless. She completely botched the broadcast hires and now she's essentially treating the fans as if we're stupid by trying to spin this bullshit as something positive. She has absolutely zero pulse on anything hockey and/or hockey-fan related, especially. If the org wants to enact this garbage because they're greedy as fuck -- fine, I don't like it, but what else is new -- but don't act like we're stupid and release this bullshit press release about how "exciting" this will be for the fans and their "experiences." She's a complete and utter dunce releasing a statement like this. What would enhance the fans' experience -- if she or the org gave two-shits about that, which they don't -- would be to keep ads off the greatest jersey/uniform in all of sports. At least that would enhance life-long NHL fans experience, but again, she/the org. doesn't give a shit about the long-time fans ("new generation," etc.). |
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Post by Nikos on Jun 26, 2024 11:12:13 GMT -6
One more step on the way to mimicking Euro teams and becoming skating billboatds. This is such horse shit. I remember on the former board I was on, I was pissed about the helmet ad, and the posters there were saying it wasn't a big deal. I said it'd be a slippery slope. Here we are. Ads everywhere: helmets, e-boards, jerseys. It'll just get worse. I love how Faulkner tries to spin this as a good thing: “Sports betting has continued to grow in popularity among our fans and offered new ways for them to engage with our game,” Blackhawks President of Business Operations Jaime Faulkner said. “We couldn’t be prouder to be adding Circa Sports to the Chicago Blackhawks roster of partners as they share in our goals to grow interest in our game and offer fans exciting and original experiences.” www.nhl.com/blackhawks/news/release-blackhawks-name-circa-sports-as-official-home-jersey-patch-partnerI'm sorry but she is fucking clueless. She completely botched the broadcast hires and now she's essentially treating the fans as if we're stupid by trying to spin this bullshit as something positive. She has absolutely zero pulse on anything hockey and/or hockey-fan related, especially. If the org wants to enact this garbage because they're greedy as fuck -- fine, I don't like it, but what else is new -- but don't act like we're stupid and release this bullshit press release about how "exciting" this will be for the fans and their "experiences." She's a complete and utter dunce releasing a statement like this. What would enhance the fans' experience -- if she or the org gave two-shits about that, which they don't -- would be to keep ads off the greatest jersey/uniform in all of sports. At least that would enhance life-long NHL fans experience, but again, she/the org. doesn't give a shit about the long-time fans ("new generation," etc.). I am with you Granada all the way on this. What is she talking about fan experience? Who writes this B.S. stuff? All they, NHL, Bettman and others care about is how can we add more revenue to the team's and league bottom lines. I like most here used to go to the old Chicago Stadium pay $4 for SRO tickets (2nd balcony, walked up I do not even remember how many steps), when I did have a seat it was literally right on top of another seat with hardly little room to move, no e-boards to look at, place smelled like cigar and cigarettes, long lines for bathrooms and concession stands, parking was terrible (you get buried and jammed by other cars) and other than waiting to get your car out of the maze to go home, I enjoyed going to the games because I love watching my Blackhawks and the stadium shaking after a goal or win. I did not need any "engagement" or be engaged. I went for the love of the game and team and rarely moved from either my seat or where we were standing, did not want to miss any action. Please spare us with this B.S. |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 26, 2024 13:40:32 GMT -6
while I hate the new patch and I am loathe to give Fanatics any sort of compliment, good on them for FINALLY making made in Canada on-ice sweaters available to us fans/collectors again.
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Post by BigT on Jun 26, 2024 15:14:20 GMT -6
while I hate the new patch and I am loathe to give Fanatics any sort of compliment, good on them for FINALLY making made in Canada on-ice sweaters available to us fans/collectors again. Are they “made in Canada” via China? I have a hard time believing a company exists in Canada that makes jerseys!!! |
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Post by tincup on Jun 26, 2024 15:46:24 GMT -6
while I hate the new patch and I am loathe to give Fanatics any sort of compliment, good on them for FINALLY making made in Canada on-ice sweaters available to us fans/collectors again. Are they “made in Canada” via China? I have a hard time believing a company exists in Canada that makes jerseys!!! Via their site “Made in Canada with domestic and imported content”. Made in Quebec apparently. |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 26, 2024 15:53:50 GMT -6
while I hate the new patch and I am loathe to give Fanatics any sort of compliment, good on them for FINALLY making made in Canada on-ice sweaters available to us fans/collectors again. Are they “made in Canada” via China? I have a hard time believing a company exists in Canada that makes jerseys!!! from the Laz fluff piece on Fanatics: "The jerseys are still made by SP Apparels in the same hallowed Saint-Hyacinthe, Quebec, factory that has been making NHL jerseys for half a century." since the early '10's, Reebok (and then Adidas once they took over for Reebok or, they just decided to put their name on them cuz they already had owned Reebok) did not allow those sweaters made in Quebec to be available to fans. the only way to get them was from the team, unlike back in the 90's/00's, when CCM/Nike/ProPlayer/KOHO all made them available for retail purchase. once the 1.0 Edges were sold out, you couldn't get the 2.0 Edge (which is what the players actually wore). the 1.0 came out after the entire league switched to Reebok (rather than each team having their own provider). so, in Toews/Kane's rookie season, the 1.0 began the season. most teams switched to the 2.0 before that season ended cuz the players HATED the 1.0's. the 'hawks switched about halfway through that season. so if you have an authentic Reebok from that time period, it is almost surely a 1.0 (cuz the league just took those already paid for jerseys and sold them all to the fans as authentics) and is NOT what the players were actually wearing on the ice. all those authentic Blackhawks sweaters with SCF or SC Champs they sold at the Blackhawks store were not what the players were wearing when they hoisted the Cup... then some asshole at Adidas/Reebok decided they could make an "authentic replica" in Indonesia and sell them as authentics, for the same price they had previously sold the on ice sweaters for. so $350+ a pop for a customized sweater that isn't even what the guy whose name is on it is actually wearing on the ice. may as well get a $35 fake from China at that point. not to mention these "Indo Edges" didn't hold up for shit on the ice, either... they were sued for it and collectors complained, to no avail. they got away with it, mostly. for a bit, when it was still Reebok, they had to put it in the fine print that they weren't the REAL jerseys, but then that disappeared when Adidas took over. I believe the go around is they put *like* or replica in the description instead. it was infuriating. as I've told here before, they asked me to leave the Blackhawks store on MI Ave because I was telling people in line with them that they weren't real. people saw the chain stitching and fight strap and assumed they were the real thing... of course, I was probably already close to being asked to leave before I said anything to any customers after I asked the employee there if they would ever have actual on ice sweaters again or just always the fake piles of shit they had on the hangers there. he was not amused... so, yeah, they are actually made in Canada, lol. now we can finally just go buy one at the store and not have to hope to find a hook-up within the organization to get the real thing... |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 26, 2024 15:56:05 GMT -6
way to get me fired up, T... lol.
it wasn't a big deal.to most back then, bit it was to some of us. the league and adidas/Reebok were literally false advertising and people spent millions and millions of dollars on something that wasn't what it claimed to be.
and they got away with it.
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Post by BigT on Jun 26, 2024 16:01:54 GMT -6
That’s awesome to hear. Score one for the northerners!!!
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Post by Nikos on Jun 27, 2024 8:13:35 GMT -6
Oilers GM Ken Holland ready to take on new role with Chicago Blackhawks according to report by NHL insider Scottie Upshall. Holland's contract expires on 6/30 and is not expected to be at the draft tomorrow. Darren Dreger also commented on the situation and said there is a role for Holland if he wants it. Is the President of OPS job ready to be filled?
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Post by Hockey is great on Jun 27, 2024 8:51:20 GMT -6
Oilers GM Ken Holland ready to take on new role with Chicago Blackhawks according to report by NHL insider Scottie Upshall. Holland's contract expires on 6/30 and is not expected to be at the draft tomorrow. Darren Dreger also commented on the situation and said there is a role for Holland if he wants it. Is the President of OPS job ready to be filled? already been reported it’s a false rumor |
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Post by Nikos on Jun 27, 2024 11:06:54 GMT -6
Oilers GM Ken Holland ready to take on new role with Chicago Blackhawks according to report by NHL insider Scottie Upshall. Holland's contract expires on 6/30 and is not expected to be at the draft tomorrow. Darren Dreger also commented on the situation and said there is a role for Holland if he wants it. Is the President of OPS job ready to be filled? already been reported it’s a false rumor Thanks for the clarification. Holland is definitely not coming back to Edmonton though, multiple reports including NHL.com have confirmed. |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 27, 2024 14:09:28 GMT -6
Oilers GM Ken Holland ready to take on new role with Chicago Blackhawks according to report by NHL insider Scottie Upshall. Holland's contract expires on 6/30 and is not expected to be at the draft tomorrow. Darren Dreger also commented on the situation and said there is a role for Holland if he wants it. Is the President of OPS job ready to be filled? already been reported it’s a false rumor thankfully. |
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