30
|
|
Post by galaxytrash on May 24, 2023 22:15:46 GMT -6
a bit off topic here but this is why i wasn't crazy about drafting so many defensemen lately. i guess you can never have too many good defensemen, but some of these sweeteners might turn out to be pretty good nhlers. Too many D prospects is a good problem to have, and if Regula or Mitchell turn out to be good NHLers, I'm sure the player they draft might be better.i agree they might be. : ) |
|
|
|
Post by LordKOTL on May 25, 2023 13:18:39 GMT -6
Regula and Mitchell are RFAs and with EDM, Allan, and possibly Korchinski turning pro, KD should add those 2 as a sweetener. a bit off topic here but this is why i wasn't crazy about drafting so many defensemen lately. i guess you can never have too many good defensemen, but some of these sweeteners might turn out to be pretty good nhlers. That's fine, as long as we get the NHL'ers that fit our plan better. If a talent is NHL quality, someone will pay for it because someone needs that type of talent. Unfortunately, defensemen take long to develop. Thus as soon as your core starts to exhibit signs of faltering, you have to try to build the next gen of D and start to develop them. That didn't happen with us. So, at the point the 'hawks are in you have to try to game the system with quantity and hope some of them is quality. Going total D is futile (and we didn't. Reichel? Dach? Nazar?), but if we don't have an adequate D in place by the time the FWDs hit, we'll be Edmonton...or Washington except they managed to win a cup. |
|
|
|
Post by steamer on May 27, 2023 15:53:23 GMT -6
It seems as though the NHL “Combine” has had much less exposure than the NFL version over the years in the mainstream sports media - at least what I have seen - but I assume it is similar to the NFL? Players show what they can do on and off the ice and a chance to interview with various teams?
|
|
|
|
Post by shooter61 on May 29, 2023 15:08:44 GMT -6
Just spent the weekend at my buddy's camp, He's a scout for the Blues ( vadarx, 2nd fav team ). He tells me KD is shopping the 19th and 2nd rounders ,big time to teams in the top ten, and willing to take back salary, also ,
He is also looking at players that can play now, and help us in the long run, not just to reach the floor , Blair also said he's earning respect from other Gm's, with the way he's doing business
|
|
|
|
Post by ebonyraptor on May 29, 2023 16:18:13 GMT -6
Just spent the weekend at my buddy's camp, He's a scout for the Blues ( vadarx, 2nd fav team ). He tells me KD is shopping the 19th and 2nd rounders ,big time to teams in the top ten, and willing to take back salary, also , He is also looking at players that can play now, and help us in the long run, not just to reach the floor , Blair also said he's earning respect from other Gm's, with the way he's doing business You realize your post is like giving red meat to a hungry dog, with the rumor being the red meat and me being the hungry dog.  Top-10 eh? Assuming the top-5 are probably not in play - that leaves Arizona at 6, Philly at 7, Washington at 8, Detroit at 9, and St. Louis at 10. Out of those 5 teams - I'm going to guess Philly and Washington would be the most likely. It's interesting he would be trying to get into the top-10 - as if he thinks the guy he's targeting won't make it out of the top-10. The suspense it killing me. |
|
|
|
Post by BigT on May 29, 2023 16:26:58 GMT -6
Just spent the weekend at my buddy's camp, He's a scout for the Blues ( vadarx, 2nd fav team ). He tells me KD is shopping the 19th and 2nd rounders ,big time to teams in the top ten, and willing to take back salary, also , He is also looking at players that can play now, and help us in the long run, not just to reach the floor , Blair also said he's earning respect from other Gm's, with the way he's doing business I heard from a certain someone that if any GM, wanted to move into the top 10, it’ll take a haul. I heard pick 19 and three 2nd rounders. About taking back salary, I don’t believe there’s a team in the top 10 that’s willing to move salary for their pick. I feel there is a team that’ll move their pick for the right haul. At this point. I only see Detroit and maybe, and I mean maybe Washington as teams to move into. Caps cupboards are bare and they may bit on the 19 and three 2nd rounders. Or Detroit. Maybe Arizona will move back. But in this draft. The best I see is KD landing the 11th pick from Vancouver. If he does. It may be easier to move into the top 10. I believe the best scenario is Van trades pick #11 Garland, OEL, Chicago trades two 2nd round picks to Van. Hawks can then trade Murphy with half retained for another late first or a 2nd and a 3rd. Probably a 2nd and a 3rd. They would then possess picks #1, 11, 19, and still have three 2nd rounders. Now a few more teams will listen when you’ve got 11 and 19 out there. I could really see Arizona taking those 2 for pick 6. Arizona has 11, 12, 19. Hawks have 1, 6. Hawks will take Bedard and either Reinbacher or Leonard. I think the 6’2” right dman is my choice. But Leonard seems like a solid fit too!!! EDIT: Its never a bad idea to take the top Dman in a draft. Just saying!!! |
|
|
|
Post by vadarx on May 29, 2023 16:40:21 GMT -6
Just spent the weekend at my buddy's camp, He's a scout for the Blues ( vadarx, 2nd fav team ). He tells me KD is shopping the 19th and 2nd rounders ,big time to teams in the top ten, and willing to take back salary, also , He is also looking at players that can play now, and help us in the long run, not just to reach the floor , Blair also said he's earning respect from other Gm's, with the way he's doing business 😅 good to hear about him working the phone and earning respect. |
|
|
|
Post by vadarx on May 29, 2023 16:50:27 GMT -6
Just spent the weekend at my buddy's camp, He's a scout for the Blues ( vadarx, 2nd fav team ). He tells me KD is shopping the 19th and 2nd rounders ,big time to teams in the top ten, and willing to take back salary, also , He is also looking at players that can play now, and help us in the long run, not just to reach the floor , Blair also said he's earning respect from other Gm's, with the way he's doing business I heard from a certain someone that if any GM, wanted to move into the top 10, it’ll take a haul. I heard pick 19 and three 2nd rounders. About taking back salary, I don’t believe there’s a team in the top 10 that’s willing to move salary for their pick. I feel there is a team that’ll move their pick for the right haul. At this point. I only see Detroit and maybe, and I mean maybe Washington as teams to move into. Caps cupboards are bare and they may bit on the 19 and three 2nd rounders. Or Detroit. Maybe Arizona will move back. But in this draft. The best I see is KD landing the 11th pick from Vancouver. If he does. It may be easier to move into the top 10. I believe the best scenario is Van trades pick #11 Garland, OEL, Chicago trades two 2nd round picks to Van. Hawks can then trade Murphy with half retained for another late first or a 2nd and a 3rd. Probably a 2nd and a 3rd. They would then possess picks #1, 11, 19, and still have three 2nd rounders. Now a few more teams will listen when you’ve got 11 and 19 out there. I could really see Arizona taking those 2 for pick 6. Arizona has 11, 12, 19. Hawks have 1, 6. Hawks will take Bedard and either Reinbacher or Leonard. I think the 6’2” right dman is my choice. But Leonard seems like a solid fit too!!! EDIT: Its never a bad idea to take the top Dman in a draft. Just saying!!! I don't see detroit moving, they already have a shit ton of picks. the Caps are a possibility, but at what cost? as far as whom to take should we move up, I am not touching a defenseman that high this year. not in the top 10, anyway. if we swapped with Vancouver (which seems like the most likely outcome to me), maybe I'd think on taking Reinbacher if he was still available, but it would depend on what forwards were there. now, if we stay at 19, then I think a d-man will be a possibility. it will depend, again, on what forwards are out there, though. if Willander is still around in the 20's, I could see KD trading up to get him. I could also see him just taking him @ 19. |
|
|
|
Post by BigT on May 29, 2023 17:16:10 GMT -6
I heard from a certain someone that if any GM, wanted to move into the top 10, it’ll take a haul. I heard pick 19 and three 2nd rounders. About taking back salary, I don’t believe there’s a team in the top 10 that’s willing to move salary for their pick. I feel there is a team that’ll move their pick for the right haul. At this point. I only see Detroit and maybe, and I mean maybe Washington as teams to move into. Caps cupboards are bare and they may bit on the 19 and three 2nd rounders. Or Detroit. Maybe Arizona will move back. But in this draft. The best I see is KD landing the 11th pick from Vancouver. If he does. It may be easier to move into the top 10. I believe the best scenario is Van trades pick #11 Garland, OEL, Chicago trades two 2nd round picks to Van. Hawks can then trade Murphy with half retained for another late first or a 2nd and a 3rd. Probably a 2nd and a 3rd. They would then possess picks #1, 11, 19, and still have three 2nd rounders. Now a few more teams will listen when you’ve got 11 and 19 out there. I could really see Arizona taking those 2 for pick 6. Arizona has 11, 12, 19. Hawks have 1, 6. Hawks will take Bedard and either Reinbacher or Leonard. I think the 6’2” right dman is my choice. But Leonard seems like a solid fit too!!! EDIT: Its never a bad idea to take the top Dman in a draft. Just saying!!! I don't see detroit moving, they already have a shit ton of picks. the Caps are a possibility, but at what cost? as far as whom to take should we move up, I am not touching a defenseman that high this year. not in the top 10, anyway. if we swapped with Vancouver (which seems like the most likely outcome to me), maybe I'd think on taking Reinbacher if he was still available, but it would depend on what forwards were there. now, if we stay at 19, then I think a d-man will be a possibility. it will depend, again, on what forwards are out there, though. if Willander is still around in the 20's, I could see KD trading up to get him. I could also see him just taking him @ 19. Listening to JayZ. He seems to think KD is hellbent on moving up. I feel that acquiring that # 11 pick is the first order of business. Getting OEL is not a horrible thing. Worst case is he goes on IR. Sure there’s 4 years of it. But only Bedard will be due a massive raise by then. Bedards 1st year on his 2nd deal will be the only one of the new crew. Then move out Murphy next. I believe he can at a minimum fetch a 2nd and a 3rd with half retained. I believe both these moves could be made a few days before the draft. Then armed with picks 11, 19 and five 2nd rounders. The fireworks begin. I could see a team like Washington or even Arizona moving their pick for the bounty the Hawks could offer. Worst case scenario. Hawks pick 1, 11, 19 and move two 2nds and a 3rd to move into the 24/25/26 spot. And end up with 4 first rounders!!! |
|
|
|
Post by OldTimeHawky on May 29, 2023 17:26:51 GMT -6
I don't see detroit moving, they already have a shit ton of picks. the Caps are a possibility, but at what cost? as far as whom to take should we move up, I am not touching a defenseman that high this year. not in the top 10, anyway. if we swapped with Vancouver (which seems like the most likely outcome to me), maybe I'd think on taking Reinbacher if he was still available, but it would depend on what forwards were there. now, if we stay at 19, then I think a d-man will be a possibility. it will depend, again, on what forwards are out there, though. if Willander is still around in the 20's, I could see KD trading up to get him. I could also see him just taking him @ 19. Listening to JayZ. He seems to think KD is hellbent on moving up. I feel that acquiring that # 11 pick is the first order of business. Getting OEL is not a horrible thing. Worst case is he goes on IR. Sure there’s 4 years of it. But only Bedard will be due a massive raise by then. Bedards 1st year on his 2nd deal will be the only one of the new crew. Then move out Murphy next. I believe he can at a minimum fetch a 2nd and a 3rd with half retained. I believe both these moves could be made a few days before the draft. Then armed with picks 11, 19 and five 2nd rounders. The fireworks begin. I could see a team like Washington or even Arizona moving their pick for the bounty the Hawks could offer. Worst case scenario. Hawks pick 1, 11, 19 and move two 2nds and a 3rd to move into the 24/25/26 spot. And end up with 4 first rounders!!! If the Hawks get 11 and Barlow is still there, he should be their pick, two CBs with 1 and 11. Then take Bonk with #19. |
|
|
|
Post by BigT on May 29, 2023 17:52:02 GMT -6
Listening to JayZ. He seems to think KD is hellbent on moving up. I feel that acquiring that # 11 pick is the first order of business. Getting OEL is not a horrible thing. Worst case is he goes on IR. Sure there’s 4 years of it. But only Bedard will be due a massive raise by then. Bedards 1st year on his 2nd deal will be the only one of the new crew. Then move out Murphy next. I believe he can at a minimum fetch a 2nd and a 3rd with half retained. I believe both these moves could be made a few days before the draft. Then armed with picks 11, 19 and five 2nd rounders. The fireworks begin. I could see a team like Washington or even Arizona moving their pick for the bounty the Hawks could offer. Worst case scenario. Hawks pick 1, 11, 19 and move two 2nds and a 3rd to move into the 24/25/26 spot. And end up with 4 first rounders!!! If the Hawks get 11 and Barlow is still there, he should be their pick, two CBs with 1 and 11. Then take Bonk with #19. Just watching That’s Hockey. Axel Sandin Pellica is now ranked 5th overall. How? Why? Apparently that’s the Habs guy. That’s who they want. So now I doubt Arizona or many others will trade their top 10 pick. Willy Smith will end up in Arizona. Now Leonard will slip one spot. And everyone else. So Barlow may slip to 11 or further. So I’m guessing Philly takes Leonard, Washington takes Zach Benson. Now, the wings at 9. Do they move down to 11? Reinbacher is ranked 8-9. So there’s a good chance the wings won’t take him. And May trade down to gain more picks. Cuz their guy will probably be there at 11. Blues will gladly take Reinbacher. But there’d have to be a guy the Hawks want bad to move up to 9. That’s if they had 11. I think 11 is as far as she goes. Especially with the news outta Montreal!!! |
|
|
|
Post by vadarx on May 29, 2023 17:58:11 GMT -6
Listening to JayZ. He seems to think KD is hellbent on moving up. I feel that acquiring that # 11 pick is the first order of business. Getting OEL is not a horrible thing. Worst case is he goes on IR. Sure there’s 4 years of it. But only Bedard will be due a massive raise by then. Bedards 1st year on his 2nd deal will be the only one of the new crew. Then move out Murphy next. I believe he can at a minimum fetch a 2nd and a 3rd with half retained. I believe both these moves could be made a few days before the draft. Then armed with picks 11, 19 and five 2nd rounders. The fireworks begin. I could see a team like Washington or even Arizona moving their pick for the bounty the Hawks could offer. Worst case scenario. Hawks pick 1, 11, 19 and move two 2nds and a 3rd to move into the 24/25/26 spot. And end up with 4 first rounders!!! If the Hawks get 11 and Barlow is still there, he should be their pick, two CBs with 1 and 11. Then take Bonk with #19. I like Barlow, but I dunno that he goes that high. hell, he might still be there at 19. |
|
|
|
Post by vadarx on May 29, 2023 18:02:57 GMT -6
If the Hawks get 11 and Barlow is still there, he should be their pick, two CBs with 1 and 11. Then take Bonk with #19. Just watching That’s Hockey. Axel Sandin Pellica is now ranked 5th overall. How? Why? Apparently that’s the Habs guy. That’s who they want. So now I doubt Arizona or many others will trade their top 10 pick. Willy Smith will end up in Arizona. Now Leonard will slip one spot. And everyone else. So Barlow may slip to 11 or further. So I’m guessing Philly takes Leonard, Washington takes Zach Benson. Now, the wings at 9. Do they move down to 11? Reinbacher is ranked 8-9. So there’s a good chance the wings won’t take him. And May trade down to gain more picks. Cuz their guy will probably be there at 11. Blues will gladly take Reinbacher. But there’d have to be a guy the Hawks want bad to move up to 9. That’s if they had 11. I think 11 is as far as she goes. Especially with the news outta Montreal!!! not buying it. not @ 5, not with the forwards that are available. this reeks of a spot that the wangs will move up to, imo. the fans in the d are starting to get restless (on top of their red hot anger at never moving up in the draft, lol). many want Yzerman to trade whatever he has to to move up a few spots. they need a top line center bad. if Smith or Carlsson drops to 5 and the Habs are really set on taking that d-man, I could see the wangs giving up both firsts and a second to move up... |
|
|
|
Post by mvr on May 29, 2023 19:35:40 GMT -6
Speculation out of Vancouver is that the Canucks might be willing to exchange the 11th pick for the 19th, provided the Hawks take on one of Garland, Boeser or Myers and give up one of their second round picks.
Vancouver is looking to add a defenceman this draft and feel a good one would be available at pick 19 (though the top defender, Sandin-Pellica, is likely gone by pick 11). They also want to recoup picks they lost in trades last year.
I have zero interest in Davidson adding yet another small winger in Garland. Myers also seems redundant unless the Hawks unload Murphy first.
Boeser, however, is a good bounce-back candidate after a down year (and countless trade rumours). He is overpaid, but not by much, and the term is short. I would certainly consider taking him on for one of the later second round picks as part of that bigger deal.
Interestingly, OEL's name was not mentioned by the Vancouver reporter.
|
|
|
|
Post by vadarx on May 29, 2023 19:44:02 GMT -6
Speculation out of Vancouver is that the Canucks might be willing to exchange the 11th pick for the 19th, provided the Hawks take on one of Garland, Boeser or Myers and give up one of their second round picks. Vancouver is looking to add a defenceman this draft and feel a good one would be available at pick 19 (though the top defender, Sandin-Pellica, is likely gone by pick 11). They also want to recoup picks they lost in trades last year. I have zero interest in Davidson adding yet another small winger in Garland. Myers also seems redundant unless the Hawks unload Murphy first. Boeser, however, is a good bounce-back candidate after a down year (and countless trade rumours). He is overpaid, but not by much, and the term is short. I would certainly consider taking him on for one of the later second round picks as part of that bigger deal. Interestingly, OEL's name was not mentioned by the Vancouver reporter. Garland plays bigger than he is, imo. I wouldn't mind taking him on. he will be dealt or let go at the end of his deal, anyway. I'd take both he and Boeser if it meant keeping 19 and giving up 2-3 second rounders. Myers is only signed for one more year, so I'd take him on too if it meant moving up. OEL has a NMC, that is likely why he isn't being mentioned much. |
|
|
|
Post by OldTimeHawky on May 29, 2023 19:44:17 GMT -6
Speculation out of Vancouver is that the Canucks might be willing to exchange the 11th pick for the 19th, provided the Hawks take on one of Garland, Boeser or Myers and give up one of their second round picks. Vancouver is looking to add a defenceman this draft and feel a good one would be available at pick 19 (though the top defender, Sandin-Pellica, is likely gone by pick 11). They also want to recoup picks they lost in trades last year. I have zero interest in Davidson adding yet another small winger in Garland. Myers also seems redundant unless the Hawks unload Murphy first. Boeser, however, is a good bounce-back candidate after a down year (and countless trade rumours). He is overpaid, but not by much, and the term is short. I would certainly consider taking him on for one of the later second round picks as part of that bigger deal. Interestingly, OEL's name was not mentioned by the Vancouver reporter. Hopefully it's Boeser, 6.6mill for 2 more seasons isn't bad, especially with the cap space the Hawks have. Brock is only 26 and 6'1" 208lbs. |
|
|
|
Post by vadarx on May 29, 2023 19:53:07 GMT -6
Speculation out of Vancouver is that the Canucks might be willing to exchange the 11th pick for the 19th, provided the Hawks take on one of Garland, Boeser or Myers and give up one of their second round picks. Vancouver is looking to add a defenceman this draft and feel a good one would be available at pick 19 (though the top defender, Sandin-Pellica, is likely gone by pick 11). They also want to recoup picks they lost in trades last year. I have zero interest in Davidson adding yet another small winger in Garland. Myers also seems redundant unless the Hawks unload Murphy first. Boeser, however, is a good bounce-back candidate after a down year (and countless trade rumours). He is overpaid, but not by much, and the term is short. I would certainly consider taking him on for one of the later second round picks as part of that bigger deal. Interestingly, OEL's name was not mentioned by the Vancouver reporter. Hopefully it's Boeser, 6.6mill for 2 more seasons isn't bad, especially with the cap space the Hawks have. Brock is only 26 and 6'1" 208lbs. I'd like it to be Boeser above any of the other options, but I feel like Vancouver probably wants to keep him over the other options. Garland, Myers, and 11th for 35th, whichever other 2nd they want, and Mitchell. |
|
|
|
Post by mvr on May 30, 2023 5:14:29 GMT -6
Vancouver's general manager will want to keep a pick in the first round.
Trading out of the first round entirely would be career suicide for the general manager in a Canadian market. The event is televised and a big deal. The 19th pick would have to part of it.
My feeling is that it would be the 11th and Boeser for Chicago's 19th and one of the second round picks (still to be negotiated). I am ok with this idea provided it is one of the later picks (New York or Tampa's). Boeser's contract is just under $6.7 M/year for two years.
If it is Myers instead, likely you'd switch out the second round pick for a third/fourth. I am good with Myers (one year at $6 M), but only if Murphy is traded elsewhere first.
Garland still has three years left on his deal. You'd think if he is included, no picks go back, and the Canucks would have to add.
|
|
|
|
Post by mvr on May 30, 2023 5:33:13 GMT -6
If I am Davidson, I get this trade done well before the draft. I want the flexibility of possibly trading up again from pick 11 on draft day.
|
|
|
|
Post by BigT on May 30, 2023 5:47:34 GMT -6
My fear is getting Boeser and another will keep the Hawks out of the basement. That’s all good if you’ve guaranteed top notch prospects to follow. Look what happened in Edmonton. They had a disaster drafting. Literally got 2 great players and most of the others sucked.
Once Boeser and the others deals are up, then what? A 2 year rebuild never worked, and it won’t here. The cupboards are maybe 40% full and will get more full over this draft. But not enough to rely on.
Is moving up to 11 gonna get that much better of a player in this draft? It’s possible. But I don’t know if KD goes for a move like that.
If Van gets a ton of cap space, they can start to add and keep the guys they want.
This is why if Van trades their pick. They’ll have to do it before the draft. It’ll be crushing to fans. So I think give them a few days to digest and let the rumours swirl about free agents etc!!!
|
|
|
|
Post by vadarx on May 30, 2023 6:26:01 GMT -6
Vancouver's general manager will want to keep a pick in the first round. Trading out of the first round entirely would be career suicide for the general manager in a Canadian market. The event is televised and a big deal. The 19th pick would have to part of it. My feeling is that it would be the 11th and Boeser for Chicago's 19th and one of the second round picks (still to be negotiated). I am ok with this idea provided it is one of the later picks (New York or Tampa's). Boeser's contract is just under $6.7 M/year for two years. If it is Myers instead, likely you'd switch out the second round pick for a third/fourth. I am good with Myers (one year at $6 M), but only if Murphy is traded elsewhere first. Garland still has three years left on his deal. You'd think if he is included, no picks go back, and the Canucks would have to add. yeah, you are likely right about them wanting to keep a first rounder. I would do Boeser and 11 for 19 and a late second, but not Myers or Garland. I still doubt they'll move Boeser, though. I think they'll find someone to take Garland or Myers off their hands. |
|
|
|
Post by vadarx on May 30, 2023 6:27:42 GMT -6
If I am Davidson, I get this trade done well before the draft. I want the flexibility of possibly trading up again from pick 11 on draft day. that would be optimal, but this feels like a draft day trade. I really don't see KD being able to jump into the top ten, tbh. I think 11th is our best bet (and I would he ecstatic that) and then move some second rounders to jump back into the tail end of the first if someone drops or he doesn't think he'll get his man @ 35. |
|
|
|
Post by vadarx on May 30, 2023 6:29:02 GMT -6
My fear is getting Boeser and another will keep the Hawks out of the basement. That’s all good if you’ve guaranteed top notch prospects to follow. Look what happened in Edmonton. They had a disaster drafting. Literally got 2 great players and most of the others sucked. Once Boeser and the others deals are up, then what? A 2 year rebuild never worked, and it won’t here. The cupboards are maybe 40% full and will get more full over this draft. But not enough to rely on. Is moving up to 11 gonna get that much better of a player in this draft? It’s possible. But I don’t know if KD goes for a move like that. If Van gets a ton of cap space, they can start to add and keep the guys they want. This is why if Van trades their pick. They’ll have to do it before the draft. It’ll be crushing to fans. So I think give them a few days to digest and let the rumours swirl about free agents etc!!! maybe so, but Boeser can also be moved at the deadline for more picks. plus, his defensive play isn't going to help our cause too much, imo. |
|
|
|
Post by BigT on May 30, 2023 6:35:20 GMT -6
My fear is getting Boeser and another will keep the Hawks out of the basement. That’s all good if you’ve guaranteed top notch prospects to follow. Look what happened in Edmonton. They had a disaster drafting. Literally got 2 great players and most of the others sucked. Once Boeser and the others deals are up, then what? A 2 year rebuild never worked, and it won’t here. The cupboards are maybe 40% full and will get more full over this draft. But not enough to rely on. Is moving up to 11 gonna get that much better of a player in this draft? It’s possible. But I don’t know if KD goes for a move like that. If Van gets a ton of cap space, they can start to add and keep the guys they want. This is why if Van trades their pick. They’ll have to do it before the draft. It’ll be crushing to fans. So I think give them a few days to digest and let the rumours swirl about free agents etc!!! maybe so, but Boeser can also be moved at the deadline for more picks. plus, his defensive play isn't going to help our cause too much, imo. He’s a guy I see as needing a change of scenery and he’ll pot 43 goals. He’s not too old at 26. But re-signing him at 28 will be tough. He’ll want 8-9 million. And for 8 years. That move scares me. I’ve always loved Boeser (my son kinda looks like him!). But not for the reason in brackets. He could be on the verge at any moment. And I think he ages out too quickly!!! |
|
|
|
Post by vadarx on May 30, 2023 7:15:49 GMT -6
maybe so, but Boeser can also be moved at the deadline for more picks. plus, his defensive play isn't going to help our cause too much, imo. He’s a guy I see as needing a change of scenery and he’ll pot 43 goals. He’s not too old at 26. But re-signing him at 28 will be tough. He’ll want 8-9 million. And for 8 years. That move scares me. I’ve always loved Boeser (my son kinda looks like him!). But not for the reason in brackets. He could be on the verge at any moment. And I think he ages out too quickly!!! yeah, I don't see them spending on him. pair him with Bedard, let him pot 2-3 dozen before the deadline and trade him for more picks. they could even retain salary if they wanted, he is only under contract through 24-25. I'm not worried about where we pick next draft. we will certainly be a lottery team, maybe we get lucky again, probably we don't. lots of good d prospects next year, as well. one of the main reasons I am going forward in the first with every pick, unless the bpa is a d-man... |
|
|
|
Post by mvr on May 30, 2023 7:29:04 GMT -6
He’s a guy I see as needing a change of scenery and he’ll pot 43 goals. He’s not too old at 26. But re-signing him at 28 will be tough. He’ll want 8-9 million. And for 8 years. That move scares me. I’ve always loved Boeser (my son kinda looks like him!). But not for the reason in brackets. He could be on the verge at any moment. And I think he ages out too quickly!!! yeah, I don't see them spending on him. pair him with Bedard, let him pot 2-3 dozen before the deadline and trade him for more picks. they could even retain salary if they wanted, he is only under contract through 24-25. I'm not worried about where we pick next draft. we will certainly be a lottery team, maybe we get lucky again, probably we don't. lots of good d prospects next year, as well. one of the main reasons I am going forward in the first with every pick, unless the bpa is a d-man... I am pretty confident this is what would happen. You acquire Boeser this year, then you trade him at next year's deadline, hopefully for a first round pick. Hopefully he regains his form playing with Bedard. Big T: I don't think that your tank plan is in jeopardy. Next year, at least two of the kids on defence will get regular playing time. Even if Davidson adds a couple of forwards in trades with incentives, the weak goaltending and inexperienced defence will come through most nights. Toews and Kane are no longer here. Neither is Domi, AA or Stalock. The coach will need some forwards to ice a roster. |
|
|
|
Post by mvr on May 30, 2023 7:56:47 GMT -6
If I am Davidson, I get this trade done well before the draft. I want the flexibility of possibly trading up again from pick 11 on draft day. that would be optimal, but this feels like a draft day trade. I really don't see KD being able to jump into the top ten, tbh. I think 11th is our best bet (and I would he ecstatic that) and then move some second rounders to jump back into the tail end of the first if someone drops or he doesn't think he'll get his man @ 35. I agree. My guess is that the trade is put together well before the draft. Vancouver waits to finalize it until the Russian and the Swede defenceman are off the boards. Likely around pick six or seven. Then the trade is announced formally. But in the meantime, Davidson is talking to those teams with picks six to ten, and he is shopping that hypothetical 11th pick (and perhaps Boeser at half price as well) |
|
|
|
Post by Nikos on May 30, 2023 11:09:38 GMT -6
There are rumblings Columbus wants to move the Merzlikins contract, 4 more years with a $5.4M cap hit. The Columbus Blue Jackets have been massively disappointed by their goaltending as a whole this past season, but especially Merzlikins and some are suggesting they even try and put him on waivers to see if he would be claimed. I doubt #3 is in play, but they do have #22 pick from the LA Kings. Not sure I take 4 years of Merzlikins for the #22 pick though. He did play much better in 2021-2022 and thus was rewarded with a 5-year deal.
I still feel Vancouver (#11) or possibly Pens (#14) are the better matches with higher picks than Columbus #22. Vancouver with serious cap issues and Pens need picks to replenish their system. At one point this year Pens were rated #29 out of #32 prospect rankings. Do you offer 2 or 3 2nd picks for Pens #14? or #19 and one of the mid 2's for #14? Got believe Pens would want the #19 though in any trade if they do make one.
|
|
|
|
Post by BigT on May 30, 2023 12:43:12 GMT -6
There are rumblings Columbus wants to move the Merzlikins contract, 4 more years with a $5.4M cap hit. The Columbus Blue Jackets have been massively disappointed by their goaltending as a whole this past season, but especially Merzlikins and some are suggesting they even try and put him on waivers to see if he would be claimed. I doubt #3 is in play, but they do have #22 pick from the LA Kings. Not sure I take 4 years of Merzlikins for the #22 pick though. He did play much better in 2021-2022 and thus was rewarded with a 5-year deal. I still feel Vancouver (#11) or possibly Pens (#14) are the better matches with higher picks than Columbus #22. Vancouver with serious cap issues and Pens need picks to replenish their system. At one point this year Pens were rated #29 out of #32 prospect rankings. Do you offer 2 or 3 2nd picks for Pens #14? or #19 and one of the mid 2's for #14? Got believe Pens would want the #19 though in any trade if they do make one. I would take Merzlikens for the 22nd oa. Then I’d trade 22 and two 2nd rounders for pick #14. It would be great having 1,14,19. Or 1,14, 22!!! |
|
|
|
Post by mvr on May 30, 2023 13:45:24 GMT -6
I would also consider taking on the Merzlikins contract. Columbus likely would require a pick back if they give up their first.
Perhaps offer Mrazek and a fourth round pick. Then look to move up.
I think LA is in the similar situation in wanting to move on from their overpriced backup goalie. So is Toronto. Surely there is a deal with one of these teams. I would not hesitate to take all three for the right price and then buy one or more of them out.
There are so many cap-strapped teams looking to unload an overpriced player and willing to pay for the space. To my mind, the smart approach here is to spend right up to the cap on these types of deals (especially for players with short terms). Buy out the players not wanted or needed.
Merzilikens (like OEL) still has extensive term on his contract. He would not be my first choice, but if the price is right, he is worth considering.
|
|
