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Post by BigT on Feb 12, 2023 9:05:12 GMT -6
www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=216620I’m not sure either. My best guess is he doesn’t have an agent and no one doing the dirty work for him. You’d think his GM in Hamilton ( former NHLer Steve Staios) would use some connections to get him at least a contract with a team? Something is weird here. Maybe the kid has a shitty attitude? Think someone would take a flier on him. I would!!!
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Post by tincup on Feb 12, 2023 9:53:18 GMT -6
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Post by nighbor on Feb 12, 2023 12:09:07 GMT -6
A certain poster took offense when I used the word shitty to describe an idea but it is proper for him to describe the attitude of someone else.
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Post by galaxytrash on Feb 22, 2023 19:18:36 GMT -6
latest count is two 1sts, three 2nds and two 3rds this year and two 1sts, two 2nds and two 3rds in 2024.
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Post by tincup on Feb 24, 2023 10:43:31 GMT -6
There are difficult decisions ahead…
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Feb 24, 2023 10:52:07 GMT -6
There are difficult decisions ahead… 15pts in 25gms isn't even close to a point per game, and he has 1g-1a in his last 5. If the Hawks draft 2nd or 3rd it should be Fantilli or Carlsson. |
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Post by tincup on Feb 24, 2023 12:12:50 GMT -6
There are difficult decisions ahead… 15pts in 25gms isn't even close to a point per game, and he has 1g-1a in his last 5. If the Hawks draft 2nd or 3rd it should be Fantilli or Carlsson. He’s 17 yo playing in probably the second best league in the world. At this moment there’s no way to know where the Hawks draft. The dice won’t necessarily favour us. |
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Post by ebonyraptor on Feb 24, 2023 12:24:36 GMT -6
There are difficult decisions ahead… 15pts in 25gms isn't even close to a point per game, and he has 1g-1a in his last 5. If the Hawks draft 2nd or 3rd it should be Fantilli or Carlsson. I'm the last person to want to introduce politics into the sanctuary of our hockey conversations - but - it is a real factor in drafting Michkov. I don't doubt his talent and waiting 3 years for him would be worth it - IF - if we knew for sure he would come over to N.A. and play for the Hawks starting in or before the 2026/27 season. But we are not assured of that. The Ukraine war appears to be escalating rather than heading for a peaceful resolution any time soon. Maybe things will look brighter before draft day but I wouldn't leave the rebuild plans in the hands of idiot politicians. If the Hawks end up not getting Bedard, Fantilli, or Carlsson - Zack Benson or Will Smith would be my pick. |
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Post by tincup on Feb 24, 2023 13:00:35 GMT -6
15pts in 25gms isn't even close to a point per game, and he has 1g-1a in his last 5. If the Hawks draft 2nd or 3rd it should be Fantilli or Carlsson. I'm the last person to want to introduce politics into the sanctuary of our hockey conversations - but - it is a real factor in drafting Michkov. I don't doubt his talent and waiting 3 years for him would be worth it - IF - if we knew for sure he would come over to N.A. and play for the Hawks starting in or before the 2026/27 season. But we are not assured of that. The Ukraine war appears to be escalating rather than heading for a peaceful resolution any time soon. Maybe things will look brighter before draft day but I wouldn't leave the rebuild plans in the hands of idiot politicians. If the Hawks end up not getting Bedard, Fantilli, or Carlsson - Zack Benson or Will Smith would be my pick. You’re right about the main risk being political. But my belief is that eventually all players of his skill will want to test themselves against the best in the world, hence the NHL. Kaprizov wasn’t as heralded as Michkov as a fifth round pick but Minnesota waited on him and now they have a superstar. The best solution to this dilemma would of course be to just manage to finish in the top three and take one of the safer and more accessible picks. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Mar 2, 2023 21:10:27 GMT -6
alright....this is corny AF but it pretty much covers all of the tanking talking points here and everywhere else.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Mar 2, 2023 21:55:46 GMT -6
Hawks have 2 firsts, 4 seconds, and 2 thirds in this years draft, most of any teams in the first 3 rounds.
This draft is deep and over 60 draft eligible players could go in the first, so that's basically like getting 6 first rounders. That'll help the rebuild.
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Post by vadarx on Mar 2, 2023 22:37:09 GMT -6
Hawks have 2 firsts, 5 seconds, and 3 thirds in this years draft, most of any teams in the first 3 rounds. This draft is deep and over 60 draft eligible players could go in the first, so that's basically like getting 7 first rounders. That'll help the rebuild. indeed. I see you are also counting on the Rags not making the ECF...😉 |
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Post by BigT on Mar 2, 2023 22:58:37 GMT -6
Hawks have 2 firsts, 5 seconds, and 3 thirds in this years draft, most of any teams in the first 3 rounds. This draft is deep and over 60 draft eligible players could go in the first, so that's basically like getting 7 first rounders. That'll help the rebuild. indeed. I see you are also counting on the Rags not making the ECF...😉 Just my opinion. I feel that the 2nd rounder this year will be more valuable than a late first next year. So I’m rooting against them to go that far. And that’s not to slight Kane. Just the 2nd this year is much better for the Hawks!!! |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Mar 2, 2023 23:23:06 GMT -6
Hawks have 2 firsts, 5 seconds, and 3 thirds in this years draft, most of any teams in the first 3 rounds. This draft is deep and over 60 draft eligible players could go in the first, so that's basically like getting 7 first rounders. That'll help the rebuild. indeed. I see you are also counting on the Rags not making the ECF...😉 Had to edit my post, thought Domis 2nd was this year. I'd rather have this years 2nd though and hope they barely make the playoffs and not make the conference finals. |
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Post by vadarx on Mar 2, 2023 23:40:10 GMT -6
indeed. I see you are also counting on the Rags not making the ECF...😉 Had to edit my post, thought Domis 2nd was this year. I'd rather have this years 2nd though and hope they barely make the playoffs and not make the conference finals. nah, I didn't see it was a 2025 from Dallas until a minute ago myself. I agree, I'd rather have a second this year with the depth of this draft. |
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Post by vadarx on Mar 2, 2023 23:44:27 GMT -6
we now have, going forward:
2023: 2 firsts, (likely) 4 2nds, 2 3rds
2024: 2 firsts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds
2025: 2 firsts, 2 2nds
2026: 1 first, 2 2nds
with all the seconds this year it seems like we could potentially move a couple to move up into the first if there is someone that drops that we like.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Mar 2, 2023 23:48:54 GMT -6
we now have, going forward: 2023: 2 firsts, (likely) 4 2nds, 2 3rds 2024: 2 firsts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds 2025: 2 firsts, 2 2nds 2026: 1 first, 2 2nds with all the seconds this year it seems like we could potentially move a couple to move up into the first if there is someone that drops that we like. Had to edit my post again lol thought I read they had 3 thirds, it's 2, for now. |
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Post by hsbob on Mar 5, 2023 10:56:52 GMT -6
I caught some of the Ragina game the other night on NHLN at the 'Peg',and all I can say after watching the Pats go down 3-0 is,opposing defenders and goaltenders are fucking helpless against Connor Beddard more often than not!........ reginapats.com/video/highlights-march-3-pats-5-ice-3Watch his 3rd goal and tell me those defenders and that goaltender aren't helpless.......fucking helpless as a matter of fact! |
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Post by BigT on Mar 5, 2023 11:16:06 GMT -6
Obviously we’d love Bedard. But for the game of hockey, we have someone fun to look forward to. He’s very exciting to watch, and it’s good for Hockey to have talent like this coming along. It would be so cool to have this player on your favourite team. He is why half the teams in the NHL are tanking!!!
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Post by ebonyraptor on Mar 5, 2023 14:34:52 GMT -6
I caught some of the Ragina game the other night on NHLN at the 'Peg',and all I can say after watching the Pats go down 3-0 is,opposing defenders and goaltenders are fucking helpless against Connor Beddard more often than not!........ reginapats.com/video/highlights-march-3-pats-5-ice-3Watch his 3rd goal and tell me those defenders and that goaltender aren't helpless.......fucking helpless as a matter of fact! That shot was amazing. At this point you don't have to even consider that it might have been a "throw is at the net and maybe get lucky" shot - he hit his target with a velocity and accuracy most NHL players couldn't dream of doing. F'n amazing. |
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Post by hsbob on Mar 6, 2023 11:04:24 GMT -6
I caught some of the Ragina game the other night on NHLN at the 'Peg',and all I can say after watching the Pats go down 3-0 is,opposing defenders and goaltenders are fucking helpless against Connor Beddard more often than not!........ reginapats.com/video/highlights-march-3-pats-5-ice-3Watch his 3rd goal and tell me those defenders and that goaltender aren't helpless.......fucking helpless as a matter of fact! That shot was amazing. At this point you don't have to even consider that it might have been a "throw is at the net and maybe get lucky" shot - he hit his target with a velocity and accuracy most NHL players couldn't dream of doing. F'n amazing. Two defenders were concentrating on Beddard there too,but it didn't matter. I know the 'high' defender has to respect his passing ability but both defenders became irrelevant with his sudden change in direction and the GT also saw the shot.....and I saw the GT just lookin' at his glove after it beat him like WTF! He did pick a corner AND hit it......while he was on the move. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2023 21:18:26 GMT -6
A meaningless win over the Bruins likely ensures they don't get the No. 1 pick and thus no Bedard.
Can't stop laughing and smiling. I look forward to seeing this place come 2030 when they've their streak of seasons missing the playoffs continues with no end in sight lolol
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Post by ebonyraptor on Mar 15, 2023 8:32:06 GMT -6
A meaningless win over the Bruins likely ensures they don't get the No. 1 pick and thus no Bedard. Can't stop laughing and smiling. I look forward to seeing this place come 2030 when they've their streak of seasons missing the playoffs continues with no end in sight lolol Well ... if you are laughing and smiling then all is right in the Hawks world, so that's good. |
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Post by Nikos on Mar 28, 2023 11:03:28 GMT -6
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Post by 2old4this on Mar 28, 2023 11:17:28 GMT -6
I'm the last person to want to introduce politics into the sanctuary of our hockey conversations - but - it is a real factor in drafting Michkov. I don't doubt his talent and waiting 3 years for him would be worth it - IF - if we knew for sure he would come over to N.A. and play for the Hawks starting in or before the 2026/27 season. But we are not assured of that. The Ukraine war appears to be escalating rather than heading for a peaceful resolution any time soon. Maybe things will look brighter before draft day but I wouldn't leave the rebuild plans in the hands of idiot politicians. If the Hawks end up not getting Bedard, Fantilli, or Carlsson - Zack Benson or Will Smith would be my pick. You’re right about the main risk being political. But my belief is that eventually all players of his skill will want to test themselves against the best in the world, hence the NHL. Kaprizov wasn’t as heralded as Michkov as a fifth round pick but Minnesota waited on him and now they have a superstar. The best solution to this dilemma would of course be to just manage to finish in the top three and take one of the safer and more accessible picks. I'll assume that you are taking post-lottery. I was playing around with the tankathon lottery simulator, and a three pre-lotto most often turned into a 4 or 5. Enough to be depressing. |
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Post by steamer on Mar 28, 2023 12:17:08 GMT -6
Interesting - thanks for sharing. Brindley has looked good so far when I have been watching the NCAAs. |
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Post by tincup on Mar 28, 2023 13:01:37 GMT -6
You’re right about the main risk being political. But my belief is that eventually all players of his skill will want to test themselves against the best in the world, hence the NHL. Kaprizov wasn’t as heralded as Michkov as a fifth round pick but Minnesota waited on him and now they have a superstar. The best solution to this dilemma would of course be to just manage to finish in the top three and take one of the safer and more accessible picks. I'll assume that you are taking post-lottery. I was playing around with the tankathon lottery simulator, and a three pre-lotto most often turned into a 4 or 5. Enough to be depressing. Going to have to finish weak and get the better odds. Pick in the consensus top three somewhere and your ass is probably covered because everyone has that same mindset. Nothing ever happens the way it’s mapped out, mistakes will be made by someone. |
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Post by 2old4this on Mar 29, 2023 18:51:22 GMT -6
I'll assume that you are taking post-lottery. I was playing around with the tankathon lottery simulator, and a three pre-lotto most often turned into a 4 or 5. Enough to be depressing. Going to have to finish weak and get the better odds. Pick in the consensus top three somewhere and your ass is probably covered because everyone has that same mindset. Nothing ever happens the way it’s mapped out, mistakes will be made by someone. Lottery is heating up...Hawks are now at #2 (from the bottom). #1 is a point behind and #3 is a point ahead. Both of them have an extra game to play before it's all over. I rate the B'Hawks as having a great shot at #1, with no easy teams to play. Just gotta remember that this is the team that punished the Bruins. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Mar 29, 2023 19:30:14 GMT -6
The year the Hawks won the draft lottery 06-07 season, they finished 5th/6th from the bottom tied with the Oilers.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Mar 29, 2023 19:53:42 GMT -6
The year the Hawks won the draft lottery 06-07 season, they finished 5th/6th from the bottom tied with the Oilers. I thought they changed it so only the top3 have a chance at #1? |
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