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Post by ebonyraptor on Jul 16, 2023 10:59:29 GMT -6
We all know the last GM didn’t care about timelines. Everything was a rush and he had to show off his shiny new toy. Boqvist played one year in Jrs in NA. He needed 2. Then a year in the farm. Or at least half a year. But that wasn’t possible due to idiocy. Then to top it off, the kid wasn’t ready and they thrust him onto the top pairing, where he ruined not just his career, Keith failed miserably too. With Dach. He played literally 1.5 years of Jrs and absolutely rushed to the NHL. He needed maybe 4 total years of Jrs. Possibly some AHL time. That’s the difference. Korchinski has 2.5 years of Jr experience. But here’s the kicker. He played an extra 30 games last year between the Hawks (pre season), Team Canada (WJC) and a long playoff run + the Memorial Cup. So he’s got quite a bit experience. He has the equivalent to 3+years of jr experience. I don’t believe the extra year in Jrs is going to amount to much. If KK plays on the 6-7 role, that’s ideal. Start him at 7 for preseason and to start the year. Maybe 6-7 games. Then try him in rotation and switch with Phillips or Kaiser. Let KK get 2nd pp This role and bottom 3 pairing. If he starts to fail. Cut his minutes and put Kaiser or someone else out there. I don’t think he’ll fail with realistic minutes. Throw him on the top pair and he’ll fail. It’s really that simple!!! Believe me - I hope you're right. I'm impatient and would love to see KK playing on the Hawks sooner than later - but that means playing WELL whenever it is he plays. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 16, 2023 13:50:13 GMT -6
We all know the last GM didn’t care about timelines. Everything was a rush and he had to show off his shiny new toy. Boqvist played one year in Jrs in NA. He needed 2. Then a year in the farm. Or at least half a year. But that wasn’t possible due to idiocy. Then to top it off, the kid wasn’t ready and they thrust him onto the top pairing, where he ruined not just his career, Keith failed miserably too. With Dach. He played literally 1.5 years of Jrs and absolutely rushed to the NHL. He needed maybe 4 total years of Jrs. Possibly some AHL time. That’s the difference. Korchinski has 2.5 years of Jr experience. But here’s the kicker. He played an extra 30 games last year between the Hawks (pre season), Team Canada (WJC) and a long playoff run + the Memorial Cup. So he’s got quite a bit experience. He has the equivalent to 3+years of jr experience. I don’t believe the extra year in Jrs is going to amount to much. If KK plays on the 6-7 role, that’s ideal. Start him at 7 for preseason and to start the year. Maybe 6-7 games. Then try him in rotation and switch with Phillips or Kaiser. Let KK get 2nd pp This role and bottom 3 pairing. If he starts to fail. Cut his minutes and put Kaiser or someone else out there. I don’t think he’ll fail with realistic minutes. Throw him on the top pair and he’ll fail. It’s really that simple!!! Believe me - I hope you're right. I'm impatient and would love to see KK playing on the Hawks sooner than later - but that means playing WELL whenever it is he plays. A wise man once told me “if you’re not patient, you’ll become one”. I think the real question should be this……. Would KK be better suited playing top minutes in Jr or playing minimal minutes in the NHL? Believe he’d be better suited in the NHL. Not because I have Scambo syndrome and cannot wait to ruin a kid. It’s simply because he won’t learn anymore at that level. If anything, he’d be teaching the younger kids how to adjust to the WHL. The best thing is to turn the corner and learn from the vets that are there now. And those vets have absolutely no ties to Chicago and can help the kids do what they do and have done. For a kid that has done pretty much everything in Jrs. There’s nothing left for him except get a big head. Worst case is that he struggles the first few months and the Hawks release him to team Canada for the world Jrs. Unless he downright sucks. I don’t see him not making it. I could be wrong. But I think there’s a plan in place with him. He was amongst the top 6 dmen last year in Hawks camp. Now, I think last year he would a flamed out and sucked the last half. I think it’s best to get growing pains out of the way. I think he’ll struggle till the end of Jan. Then all of the sudden he gets it and his natural progressing will take over. But we’ll see!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 17, 2023 7:06:44 GMT -6
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Post by phill9 on Jul 17, 2023 7:27:24 GMT -6
Curious if Bedard can be signed before his 18th birthday, which is July 17th. All I'm finding is a player has to turn 18 by September 5th in order to be drafted. Guess we have the answer. |
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Post by Nikos on Jul 17, 2023 8:09:22 GMT -6
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 17, 2023 8:34:57 GMT -6
Happy Birthday Connor and congrats on signing your ELC.
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Post by ebonyraptor on Jul 17, 2023 8:58:20 GMT -6
And the Lindros hopes across the fruited plain go up in smoke. :-)
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Post by phill9 on Jul 17, 2023 11:42:33 GMT -6
So Bedard went from being a poor 17 year old to getting $950,000 a year for the next 3 years.
What a difference a day can make!
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 17, 2023 12:49:58 GMT -6
So Bedard went from being a poor 17 year old to getting $950,000 a year for the next 3 years. What a difference a day can make! Plus he'll get bonuses and I'm sure there'll be endorsements. |
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Post by mikeveisor on Jul 17, 2023 12:57:33 GMT -6
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Post by Nikos on Jul 17, 2023 17:17:36 GMT -6
Here's a breakdown of Bedard's contract on a per-season basis, courtesy of Cap Friendly:
Signing bonus: $95,000
Base salary: $855,000
Performance bonus: $3.5 million maximum
The Type "A" performance bonus is worth up to $1 million. All Bedard needs to do is hit four of the categories below, which are worth $250,000 each for players drafted in 2022 and beyond, according to Puck Pedia:
20 goals
35 assists
60 points
Top 6 in ice time among forwards (in total and/or per game) on team (minimum 42 games)
Top 3 in plus/minus among forwards on team (minimum 42 games)
0.73 points-per-game (minimum 42 games)
End-of-season all-rookie team
All-Star selection
All-Star MVP
The Type "B" performance bonus is the bigger one and worth up to $2.5 million. Bedard can earn the full amount if any of the following is achieved:
Top 10 among NHL forwards in goals, assists, points, or points-per-game (minimum 42 games played)
Win any of the following trophies: Hart, Selke, Richard, Conn Smythe
First- or second-team All-Star
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 17, 2023 17:58:02 GMT -6
barring injury, he'll easily achieve the type A bonus imho.
if the calder trophy was a part of the type B bonus package, he'd stand a good chance at that as well.
but the way it stands now it's a longshot at best.
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Post by jacksalmon on Jul 17, 2023 18:12:09 GMT -6
So Bedard went from being a poor 17 year old to getting $950,000 a year for the next 3 years. What a difference a day can make! Good for him!!! Hopefully, he will turn out to be as good as expected. Now, as long as the others drafted with high hopes pan out, the Hawks might have a good season coming up at some point in the next few years. |
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Post by shooter61 on Jul 18, 2023 17:47:39 GMT -6
Never mind the 950,000, what about the 4.500,000, he gets if he reaches his bonus's , at 18, tell me he couldn't pick up chicks,,,  |
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Post by phill9 on Jul 18, 2023 18:54:15 GMT -6
Never mind the 950,000, what about the 4.500,000, he gets if he reaches his bonus's , at 18, tell me he couldn't pick up chicks,,, It'll help.....but at 18 he won't be picking them up at any bars for the next 3 years! And in Chicago, 17 year old girls are jail bait. So he's pretty limited for the next few years! Although I'm sure he'll have a lot of high school seniors asking him to prom  |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 18, 2023 21:21:01 GMT -6
loling very hard right now at the idea of Connor Bedard having any trouble getting laid, both going forward or over the past couple years...
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 19, 2023 3:17:10 GMT -6
Never mind the 950,000, what about the 4.500,000, he gets if he reaches his bonus's , at 18, tell me he couldn't pick up chicks,,, It'll help.....but at 18 he won't be picking them up at any bars for the next 3 years! And in Chicago, 17 year old girls are jail bait. So he's pretty limited for the next few years! Although I'm sure he'll have a lot of high school seniors asking him to prom The drinking age for most Canadian provinces is 18, but I doubt he'll be going to bars and if he did, he won't be drinking much. This past season with the Pats selling out buildings I'm sure girls were trying to hook up with him, lots of puck bunnies up here. I've never seen a kid more focused on hockey, I doubt he'll get caught up in things like Kaner did. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 19, 2023 3:38:21 GMT -6
During prospects camp when Bedard was playing ball hockey with the kids, one of them asked if he had blisters on his hands or were they calluses, definitely calluses with the amount of shooting drills he does. They must be prominent if a kid thinks they're blisters, I'm curious to see what his hands look like.
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Post by Tater on Jul 19, 2023 11:13:11 GMT -6
It'll help.....but at 18 he won't be picking them up at any bars for the next 3 years! And in Chicago, 17 year old girls are jail bait. So he's pretty limited for the next few years! Although I'm sure he'll have a lot of high school seniors asking him to prom The drinking age for most Canadian provinces is 18, but I doubt he'll be going to bars and if he did, he won't be drinking much. This past season with the Pats selling out buildings I'm sure girls were trying to hook up with him, lots of puck bunnies up here. I've never seen a kid more focused on hockey, I doubt he'll get caught up in things like Kaner did.
I think during the draft his mom said he's never eaten any fast food. Never even had McD's.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 19, 2023 12:03:43 GMT -6
The drinking age for most Canadian provinces is 18, but I doubt he'll be going to bars and if he did, he won't be drinking much. This past season with the Pats selling out buildings I'm sure girls were trying to hook up with him, lots of puck bunnies up here. I've never seen a kid more focused on hockey, I doubt he'll get caught up in things like Kaner did.
I think during the draft his mom said he's never eaten and fast food. Never even had McD's.
Yeah I mentioned that on another page, that's a very healthy family. |
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Post by gigecj on Jul 20, 2023 9:04:42 GMT -6
CB is not only immensely talented, he's a first class young man. I am super excited for this team once again.
-Gig
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Post by gigecj on Jul 20, 2023 9:39:37 GMT -6
The drinking age for most Canadian provinces is 18, but I doubt he'll be going to bars and if he did, he won't be drinking much. This past season with the Pats selling out buildings I'm sure girls were trying to hook up with him, lots of puck bunnies up here. I've never seen a kid more focused on hockey, I doubt he'll get caught up in things like Kaner did.
I think during the draft his mom said he's never eaten any fast food. Never even had McD's.
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Post by gigecj on Jul 20, 2023 9:42:16 GMT -6
I think during the draft his mom said he's never eaten any fast food. Never even had McD's.
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Post by ebonyraptor on Jul 20, 2023 10:13:19 GMT -6
CB is not only immensely talented, he's a first class young man. I am super excited for this team once again. -Gig Hey Gig - hope all is well. |
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Post by gigecj on Jul 20, 2023 15:02:37 GMT -6
CB is not only immensely talented, he's a first class young man. I am super excited for this team once again. -Gig Hey Gig - hope all is well. |
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Post by gigecj on Jul 20, 2023 15:07:53 GMT -6
ER, it's great to hear from you others. We're still in our fifth wheel RV, BUT, we are living on our 5-acre property. As is typical these days, the build has had its ups and downs. We had to fire our GC just this week. Ah, whatever doesn't kill ya.......
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Post by ebonyraptor on Jul 20, 2023 15:28:33 GMT -6
ER, it's great to hear from you others. We're still in our fifth wheel RV, BUT, we are living on our 5-acre property. As is typical these days, the build has had its ups and downs. We had to fire our GC just this week. Ah, whatever doesn't kill ya....... Where's your acreage at - still up in the northwest? Were you traveling in the RV? I bought a Class-B RV after my wife passed and went traveling for almost 3 months and that getting away and being by myself helped me a lot. Now, the RV is sitting in my driveway for most of the past year doing nothing.  |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 20, 2023 19:11:40 GMT -6
maybe already mentioned, too lazy to scroll back...but i wonder if having bedard inspires other teammates (young and older) to have better exercise/eating habits and work ethics. i was listening to a podcast (i believe) recently, for the life of me i can't remember whose. i guess after games, bedard likes to scoot up to a wall on his back and raise his legs against the wall and stay like that for some time. nobody had seen it before, including trainers. pretty soon most of the team was doing it. can't remember if it was the pats or team canada or another team. maybe someone else here has heard it. anyways...just wondering if his devotion to improvement rubs off on other players? i'm thinking it would.Here's proof you don't need to be in great shape. may he rest in peace. and to keep it on track, a nice article about nick foligno and why he was brought in. “Connor’s not going to be able to hide from [the spotlight] in the world we live in now,” Foligno said. “But I think how you are as a room helps you in those moments. If he knows that we all have his back, and if we know that he’s loving coming to work every day and the passion is there, then all of that stuff really doesn’t matter. He’s enjoying just being an NHL hockey player and rolling with the team he’s on. That’s what I want to bring. I want to try and help with a lot of great guys that we have already in that room. We got Corey Perry coming in, Taylor Hall, Seth Jones is there, Connor Murphy. There’s a lot of really good players, Stanley Cup champs even, that know how to do that. I’m excited about being another piece of that and helping these young guys in understanding that that’s the most important part. How tight you are as a group is gonna dictate how successful we are as a team, and I hope to bring that to Chicago.”www.nbcsportschicago.com/nhl/chicago-blackhawks/blackhawks-news/nick-foligno-is-determined-to-create-a-safe-space-for-bedard-to-flourish/496120/ |
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Post by gigecj on Jul 20, 2023 19:25:39 GMT -6
ER, it's great to hear from you others. We're still in our fifth wheel RV, BUT, we are living on our 5-acre property. As is typical these days, the build has had its ups and downs. We had to fire our GC just this week. Ah, whatever doesn't kill ya....... Where's your acreage at - still up in the northwest? Were you traveling in the RV? I bought a Class-B RV after my wife passed and went traveling for almost 3 months and that getting away and being by myself helped me a lot. Now, the RV is sitting in my driveway for most of the past year doing nothing. ER, my heart breaks for your loss. I am so sorry. However, I think you know she's in a better place. We live in the Bitterroot Valley about 25 minutes south of Missoula, Montana. Our view is spectacular and we're very thankful. |
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Post by ebonyraptor on Jul 20, 2023 19:45:22 GMT -6
Where's your acreage at - still up in the northwest? Were you traveling in the RV? I bought a Class-B RV after my wife passed and went traveling for almost 3 months and that getting away and being by myself helped me a lot. Now, the RV is sitting in my driveway for most of the past year doing nothing. ER, my heart breaks for your loss. I am so sorry. However, I think you know she's in a better place. We live in the Bitterroot Valley about 25 minutes south of Missoula, Montana. Our view is spectacular and we're very thankful. Thanks Gig. I love Montana. When I took my getaway trip in winter/spring 2022 I went to spend some time with my daughter and her family who live in Mountain Home Idaho so I drove through Montana and absolutely love the state. You can know the term Big Sky but you really don't know it until you experience Montana. I would move there in a minute if I didn't have my grandkids close to me here in Illinois. Back to hockey - after coming through the euphoric Cup winning decade and then experiencing the painful decline over the past 5-6 years - it's looking up again and very exciting. |
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