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Post by mikeveisor on Jan 6, 2024 12:53:54 GMT -6
If he was a few inches taller he wouldn't have got the shoulder to the face. There's truth in how that anatomy calculation should work - I think Smith still would have gone for the head, though. It's a pattern. |
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Post by vadarx on Jan 6, 2024 14:18:59 GMT -6
Probably miss a couple games then wear shield or grill. for reference, Boone Jenner was given a 6-8 week time table for his broken jaw this season. |
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Post by vadarx on Jan 6, 2024 14:19:54 GMT -6
gonna be a real bummer if this goes the McDavid way and the guy that is clearly the Calder winner misses out cuz of an injury...
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Post by squishy24 on Jan 6, 2024 14:23:44 GMT -6
The games should cost less now?
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Post by vadarx on Jan 6, 2024 14:33:44 GMT -6
The games should cost less now? 🤣 |
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Post by hawks27 on Jan 6, 2024 15:44:12 GMT -6
Too bad Foligno broke his finger on Smith's face. Not!
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jan 6, 2024 16:12:12 GMT -6
Probably miss a couple games then wear shield or grill. for reference, Boone Jenner was given a 6-8 week time table for his broken jaw this season. A fractured jaw and broken are different. Boone took a slapshot to the jaw and I think it broke in 3 places, probably has plates in it. Hopefully Bedard isn't out long 🤞 |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jan 6, 2024 16:25:12 GMT -6
gonna be a real bummer if this goes the McDavid way and the guy that is clearly the Calder winner misses out cuz of an injury... yeah...that'd suck but i'm still very happy he wasn't concussed. personally, that was my biggest fear. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jan 6, 2024 16:54:55 GMT -6
gonna be a real bummer if this goes the McDavid way and the guy that is clearly the Calder winner misses out cuz of an injury... yeah...that'd suck but i'm still very happy he wasn't concussed. personally, that was my biggest fear. Broken bones are better than brain injuries. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Jan 6, 2024 17:55:03 GMT -6
for reference, Boone Jenner was given a 6-8 week time table for his broken jaw this season. A fractured jaw and broken are different. Boone took a slapshot to the jaw and I think it broke in 3 places, probably has plates in it. Hopefully Bedard isn't out long 🤞 Didn't Crosby take a slapshot to his jaw and was concussed for several weeks a few years back? |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jan 6, 2024 18:02:06 GMT -6
Probably miss a couple games then wear shield or grill. for reference, Boone Jenner was given a 6-8 week time table for his broken jaw this season. tinordi was out almost 2 months last season. every break is different though and CB's didn't seem like it could be as bad as tinordi's but who knows? |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jan 6, 2024 18:09:46 GMT -6
A fractured jaw and broken are different. Boone took a slapshot to the jaw and I think it broke in 3 places, probably has plates in it. Hopefully Bedard isn't out long 🤞 Didn't Crosby take a slapshot to his jaw and was concussed for several weeks a few years back? that's my biggest worry now that they say "oh, btw...CB's got a concussion too". i hope not. the last thing i want is him having concussion issues starting at 18 years of age. |
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Post by 2old4this on Jan 6, 2024 18:18:31 GMT -6
for reference, Boone Jenner was given a 6-8 week time table for his broken jaw this season. A fractured jaw and broken are different. Boone took a slapshot to the jaw and I think it broke in 3 places, probably has plates in it. Hopefully Bedard isn't out long 🤞 That is probably how they are defined in hockey. I seem to recall that in the medical field, they were referred to as a simple fracture and a compound fracture. With my memory problems, tho, I wouldn't put money on it. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jan 6, 2024 20:24:46 GMT -6
Didn't Crosby take a slapshot to his jaw and was concussed for several weeks a few years back? that's my biggest worry now that they say "oh, btw...CB's got a concussion too". i hope not. the last thing i want is him having concussion issues starting at 18 years of age. He seemed alert and didn't stay on the ice, and he was walking fine when he went to the back. Doesn't seem like he was concussed. But with how things are going, you never know. |
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Jan 6, 2024 22:22:51 GMT -6
A fractured jaw and broken are different. Boone took a slapshot to the jaw and I think it broke in 3 places, probably has plates in it. Hopefully Bedard isn't out long 🤞 That is probably how they are defined in hockey. I seem to recall that in the medical field, they were referred to as a simple fracture and a compound fracture. With my memory problems, tho, I wouldn't put money on it. Compound fracture is when a bone protrudes through the skin. There's also a fracture with displacement, when the bone is out of alignment. It didn't look like a compound fracture. If there was displacement, surgical intervention will probably be required. If it's just a crack, I am guessing that he will still have to be out for a couple of weeks for the bone to start fusing. PS: We need to have a staff physician in this forum! |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jan 6, 2024 22:57:52 GMT -6
That is probably how they are defined in hockey. I seem to recall that in the medical field, they were referred to as a simple fracture and a compound fracture. With my memory problems, tho, I wouldn't put money on it. Compound fracture is when a bone protrudes through the skin. There's also a fracture with displacement, when the bone is out of alignment. It didn't look like a compound fracture. If there was displacement, surgical intervention will probably be required. If it's just a crack, I am guessing that he will still have to be out for a couple of weeks for the bone to start fusing. PS: We need to have a staff physician in this forum! Your hired |
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Post by vadarx on Jan 6, 2024 23:56:38 GMT -6
for reference, Boone Jenner was given a 6-8 week time table for his broken jaw this season. A fractured jaw and broken are different. Boone took a slapshot to the jaw and I think it broke in 3 places, probably has plates in it. Hopefully Bedard isn't out long 🤞 I mean, a fractured jaw and a broken jaw are exactly the same thing, but I get what you are saying. hopefully Young Master Bedard has something a little more minor than what Jenner has... |
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Post by vadarx on Jan 6, 2024 23:58:06 GMT -6
gonna be a real bummer if this goes the McDavid way and the guy that is clearly the Calder winner misses out cuz of an injury... yeah...that'd suck but i'm still very happy he wasn't concussed. personally, that was my biggest fear. yeah, that's for true. as OTH said above, broken bones are better than brain injuries. |
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Post by vadarx on Jan 7, 2024 0:02:05 GMT -6
That is probably how they are defined in hockey.  I seem to recall that in the medical field, they were referred to as a simple fracture and a compound fracture. With my memory problems, tho, I wouldn't put money on it. Compound fracture is when a bone protrudes through the skin. There's also a fracture with displacement, when the bone is out of alignment. It didn't look like a compound fracture. If there was displacement, surgical intervention will probably be required. If it's just a crack, I am guessing that he will still have to be out for a couple of weeks for the bone to start fusing. PS: We need to have a staff physician in this forum! I am hoping for a hairline type of fracture. I'd say it obviously wasn't a compound because I think we'd be seeing some looks of horror when he got to the bench, lol. a small fracture of his jawbone should heal relatively quickly at his age. if he popped it out, hopefully there wasn't any damage to any connective tissue. I do wonder if we will see him with a full cage on for the rest of the season when he comes back, though. |
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Post by squishy24 on Jan 10, 2024 10:32:01 GMT -6
Jaw surgery, out 6-8 weeks
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jan 10, 2024 10:32:27 GMT -6
Bedard underwent surgery and he's out 6-8 weeks. Such a shame, Fantilli will probably win the Calder now.
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Post by squishy24 on Jan 10, 2024 10:33:35 GMT -6
Bedard underwent surgery and he's out 6-8 weeks. Such a shame, Fantilli will probably win the Calder now. Seth Jones might be the allstar replacement. Hahahahaha That game has become a joke. They have to change it |
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Post by hsbob on Jan 10, 2024 11:53:32 GMT -6
If a former elite player like Patrick Kane was still on the team,or to be fair,if a former elite player like Hall wasn't out,could they have been the guy to warn Bedard of the perils of Brendan Smith? For that matter,Corey Perry knew the perils from both sides and would have undoubtedly given the poor kid a heads-up!
I said early in the season that the Organization has a tremendous responsibility to go along with it's tremendous good fortune as far as developing and protecting this young player regardless of his superior ability. The team's response to the hit was admirable but Bedard looked like he thought he could dangle right past the dirty bastard unscathed,was that because he never got that heads-up?
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Post by Nikos on Jan 10, 2024 12:01:57 GMT -6
Bedard underwent surgery and he's out 6-8 weeks. Such a shame, Fantilli will probably win the Calder now. Seth Jones might be the allstar replacement. Hahahahaha That game has become a joke. They have to change it Should be Dickinson |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jan 10, 2024 13:12:46 GMT -6
If a former elite player like Patrick Kane was still on the team,or to be fair,if a former elite player like Hall wasn't out,could they have been the guy to warn Bedard of the perils of Brendan Smith? For that matter,Corey Perry knew the perils from both sides and would have undoubtedly given the poor kid a heads-up! I said early in the season that the Organization has a tremendous responsibility to go along with it's tremendous good fortune as far as developing and protecting this young player regardless of his superior ability. The team's response to the hit was admirable but Bedard looked like he thought he could dangle right past the dirty bastard unscathed,was that because he never got that heads-up? Mercer swiped at the puck and Bedard lost it, that's why he was reaching for it, otherwise he would've danced around Smith. And Foligno is still on the team, I'm sure he mentioned something to Bedard. Maybe it's time to stop the push em back entry, Kurashev was almost taken out similar to Bedard versus the Oilers. |
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Post by hsbob on Jan 10, 2024 13:48:14 GMT -6
If a former elite player like Patrick Kane was still on the team,or to be fair,if a former elite player like Hall wasn't out,could they have been the guy to warn Bedard of the perils of Brendan Smith? For that matter,Corey Perry knew the perils from both sides and would have undoubtedly given the poor kid a heads-up! I said early in the season that the Organization has a tremendous responsibility to go along with it's tremendous good fortune as far as developing and protecting this young player regardless of his superior ability. The team's response to the hit was admirable but Bedard looked like he thought he could dangle right past the dirty bastard unscathed,was that because he never got that heads-up? Mercer swiped at the puck and Bedard lost it, that's why he was reaching for it, otherwise he would've danced around Smith. And Foligno is still on the team, I'm sure he mentioned something to Bedard. Maybe it's time to stop the push em back entry, Kurashev was almost taken out similar to Bedard versus the Oilers. Can't disagree with any of that and I thought of Foligno myself,but Foligno's perspective is that of a big,tough dude who's dealt with plenty of Brendan Smith's. The perspective of an average-framed,elite forward's approach to guide Bedard might have been different. In any event,I think the time will be soon to have another elite forward to help Bedard with many things and I wouldn't mind Denny Sevard runnin' the offense and PP either.........speaking of former elite players. |
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Post by vadarx on Jan 10, 2024 15:33:38 GMT -6
If a former elite player like Patrick Kane was still on the team,or to be fair,if a former elite player like Hall wasn't out,could they have been the guy to warn Bedard of the perils of Brendan Smith? For that matter,Corey Perry knew the perils from both sides and would have undoubtedly given the poor kid a heads-up! I said early in the season that the Organization has a tremendous responsibility to go along with it's tremendous good fortune as far as developing and protecting this young player regardless of his superior ability. The team's response to the hit was admirable but Bedard looked like he thought he could dangle right past the dirty bastard unscathed,was that because he never got that heads-up? Mercer swiped at the puck and Bedard lost it, that's why he was reaching for it, otherwise he would've danced around Smith. And Foligno is still on the team, I'm sure he mentioned something to Bedard. Maybe it's time to stop the push em back entry, Kurashev was almost taken out similar to Bedard versus the Oilers. it has been time for that for a good while now... |
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Post by shooter61 on Jan 10, 2024 19:14:55 GMT -6
If a former elite player like Patrick Kane was still on the team,or to be fair,if a former elite player like Hall wasn't out,could they have been the guy to warn Bedard of the perils of Brendan Smith? For that matter,Corey Perry knew the perils from both sides and would have undoubtedly given the poor kid a heads-up! I said early in the season that the Organization has a tremendous responsibility to go along with it's tremendous good fortune as far as developing and protecting this young player regardless of his superior ability. The team's response to the hit was admirable but Bedard looked like he thought he could dangle right past the dirty bastard unscathed,was that because he never got that heads-up? Foligno's still there, along with Murph, I'm sure before each and every game they have a talk, and while they are on the ice, they all get reminded, their is no secret about who's out there |
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Post by hsbob on Jan 10, 2024 19:31:40 GMT -6
If a former elite player like Patrick Kane was still on the team,or to be fair,if a former elite player like Hall wasn't out,could they have been the guy to warn Bedard of the perils of Brendan Smith? For that matter,Corey Perry knew the perils from both sides and would have undoubtedly given the poor kid a heads-up! I said early in the season that the Organization has a tremendous responsibility to go along with it's tremendous good fortune as far as developing and protecting this young player regardless of his superior ability. The team's response to the hit was admirable but Bedard looked like he thought he could dangle right past the dirty bastard unscathed,was that because he never got that heads-up? Foligno's still there, along with Murph, I'm sure before each and every game they have a talk, and while they are on the ice, they all get reminded, their is no secret about who's out there Maybe they weren't persuasive enough or maybe he forgot or maybe it's just a lesson that needs to be learned but it surely didn't look like he expected anything like that. I can't disagree with you but I'll add this,big,tough vets like the ones you mentioned play with a different mind-set and have other concerns than mid-small framed,elite forwards who have to carry the puck against a Trouba or a Gudas or a head-huntin',dirty bastard like Brendan Smith. |
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Post by steamer on Jan 11, 2024 10:04:36 GMT -6
Tending to think it’s something to be learned by the smaller puck carrying forwards - unfortunately. But if the entries are encouraged to be done that way then that’s a problem. I can’t imagine entry against a stacked blue line was never discussed but I can imagine a very confident and talented young guy who is used to some success stick handling through still thinking he can do it at this level.
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