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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 13, 2023 18:51:41 GMT -6
i was there for about 5. it owns all the qualities i hate in a message board. once I had to argue with someone that Jonny wasn't "faking it cuz he hates Colliton" i was done. that was me i think : D |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jun 13, 2023 19:57:30 GMT -6
I hung around there for a minute when the old boards went down. a minute is about all I could take. i was there for about 5. it owns all the qualities i hate in a message board. I was there for a while til GT found me thanks again GT!!! |
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Post by LordKOTL on Jun 14, 2023 8:09:12 GMT -6
Would you believe it's all gone down hill even more since the days of the O-boards dying?
Still, aside from a couple of good posters over there who give good banter like a lot of the posters here, I watch that forum with trainwreck fascination. I don't claim to know a ton more about hockey over your average person (because let's face it: if I did I'd be working for the Blackhawks, not posting on their forums), but some of the takes...wow.
I mean, it's a no-brainer. If KD doesn't pick Bedard we can expect his firing to be announced before the 2nd pick is in.
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Post by shooter61 on Jun 14, 2023 19:45:03 GMT -6
i was there for about 5. it owns all the qualities i hate in a message board. I was there for a while til GT found me thanks again GT!!! Yeah he found me also, bet he's kicking his ass now ,,, |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 14, 2023 19:49:52 GMT -6
I was there for a while til GT found me thanks again GT!!! Yeah he found me also, bet he's kicking his ass now ,,, there'll be lots more here kicking my ass now that you've told everyone. : D |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 14, 2023 20:11:20 GMT -6
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jun 14, 2023 21:23:31 GMT -6
Gotta love the CB jersey!!
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Post by hsbob on Jun 15, 2023 9:59:00 GMT -6
I said "just let Bedard pick it" over in the goal song thread in jest but he'll undoubtedly be THE face of the franchise upon arrival and for some time to come.
This kid will join the team @18 with making the roster a forgone conclusion,which seems fair,an expected seamless transition to the league and a fairly productive rookie season. Maybe this puts some pressure on the kid but that's the hockey part and Connor Bedard's REAL good at hockey!
The pressure can come from being THE face of the franchise,he'll be far and away the most recognizable face of the franchise and he'll be so from day one. The media will want ONE interview(they can get old as the L's mount)and endorsement deals will POUR in with their possible distractions but the kid does look extremely focused to say the least.
Maybe the absence of the high-profile vets will let the young man 'find his voice' and he better find it quick because everybody will want a piece. National media,local media,STH's fans,prospect camp(no fans there....LOL),fan convention and commercial shoots and that's BEFORE training camp and opening night.
Let's be real,the average Chicago sports fan won't know anyone else even associated with the team and even the casual Chicago hockey fan might know the owner's kid and the guy with the long name that starts with 'A'.....and maybe our All-star S Jones too I guess but Bedard will be THE guy by a MILE.
They'll be other vets but the National media won't be looking for a Tyler Johnson interview and the local media won't be looking for a Dickinson scoop......I guarantee that.
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Post by T-man2010 on Jun 15, 2023 11:55:33 GMT -6
The new arrival today. |
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Post by Nikos on Jun 15, 2023 13:34:34 GMT -6
The new arrival today. Congrats. Can I ask where you got it from and approx. how much you paid for? |
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Post by T-man2010 on Jun 15, 2023 14:19:15 GMT -6
The new arrival today. Congrats. Can I ask where you got it from and approx. how you paid for? Place is called Hockey Authentic in Vancouver. About 250 |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 15, 2023 14:36:05 GMT -6
I'm surprised they would customize it yet. I'm waiting until the pick is in so I can have CSL do mine...
anyone here gets a line on MiC adidas sweaters, let me know!
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Post by Nikos on Jun 15, 2023 14:45:15 GMT -6
I'm surprised they would customize it yet. I'm waiting until the pick is in so I can have CSL do mine... anyone here gets a line on MiC adidas sweaters, let me know! Less than two weeks away. |
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Post by mikeveisor on Jun 16, 2023 11:57:36 GMT -6
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Post by hsbob on Jun 17, 2023 9:46:21 GMT -6
We've seen how well adding one 4th line tough has worked out for us in the past and that's all Lucic is now,and fairly disinterested in the 'tough' stuff anymore with 43pims in 77gms last year. Maybe Toronto brings a bit more out of the veteran but it's hard to enforce from the 4th line unless he's still good enough to get the occasional top-line shift and he hasn't been. This topic even being discussed should make the Leafs four-core forwards F'n ashamed of themselves IMO! All four are veterans with PO experience. All four are 6' or over,three of em over 200lbs'. 31yro 6'1" 215lb center John Tavares has played over 1,000 games of mostly contentious EC hockey compounded with the angst of many PO failures and no edge to this player's game? His 34pims in 80gms actually led the 'Lady Bing' contending group,Marner and Nylander had 28mins each and that leaves Auston Mathews. He had a daunting 20 penalty minutes last year,but he actually had his first fighting major ever.....EVER, in this year's TB series with Stamkos and don't look for his next one anytime soon. Almost 500 regular season games for this 6'-3" 210lb 25yro center and most of em chippy as hell out east and he never found a reason to drop em until then? Has this highly talented group of forwards ever been willing to get their noses dirty.......let alone bloodied? Have they ever been instructed to? Rumors persist of a salary-cap approaching 90 million in a few years once escrow is settled and a 15M deal for Mathews on the horizon........will it be in Toronto? How much better are the Leafs next year if they can move one of the four forwards for an extended Hellebuyck? And it'd have to be one of the younger three. |
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Post by ebonyraptor on Jun 17, 2023 10:33:23 GMT -6
All four are 6' or over,three of em over 200lbs'. 31yro 6'1" 215lb center John Tavares has played over 1,000 games of mostly contentious EC hockey compounded with the angst of many PO failures and no edge to this player's game? His 34pims in 80gms actually led the 'Lady Bing' contending group,Marner and Nylander had 28mins each and that leaves Auston Mathews. He had a daunting 20 penalty minutes last year,but he actually had his first fighting major ever.....EVER, in this year's TB series with Stamkos and don't look for his next one anytime soon. Almost 500 regular season games for this 6'-3" 210lb 25yro center and most of em chippy as hell out east and he never found a reason to drop em until then? Has this highly talented group of forwards ever been willing to get their noses dirty.......let alone bloodied? Have they ever been instructed to? That's a shocking set of stats. I suppose they can be interpreted in several ways, but the way I interpret them is their lack of committed engagement in the physical and defensive sides of the game. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 17, 2023 16:30:00 GMT -6
It seems strange that Bedard was listed at 5'10" 185lbs at 16 and he's almost 18 and hasn't gained 1 pound, even though he's a gym rat and he's muscular, and he's now just under 5'10".
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Post by Nikos on Jun 17, 2023 16:43:44 GMT -6
It seems strange that Bedard was listed at 5'10" 185lbs at 16 and he's almost 18 and hasn't gained 1 pound, even though he's a gym rat and he's muscular, and he's now just under 5'10". Plus muscle weighs more, do not see that many young hockey players with his upper body and that is not even taking in account those fire hydrant like thighs. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 17, 2023 19:42:07 GMT -6
I bought the latest Hockey News magazine, draft edition. Great write up on Bedard. Barzel said he first saw Bedard when he was 12 and it looked like his skates were too big, the next summer he said he was beating NHL goalies and he's been getting better every year.
And his mom stayed with him in Regina and people were shocked when she said he's never had fast food, not even McDonald's. The kid is really disciplined with his health.
It's well known Cristalls been his best friend since they were 5 but Bedard said Mathew Wood is also a good friend and he once lived with the Bedards. Hopefully Cristall falls to the 2nd round and the Hawks draft him, and Wood won't be there at 19 but if he's there around 15 the Hawks might move up to get him.
Less than 2 weeks till the draft.
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Post by reylohawks on Jun 17, 2023 21:16:03 GMT -6
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Post by hsbob on Jun 18, 2023 8:25:03 GMT -6
It seems strange that Bedard was listed at 5'10" 185lbs at 16 and he's almost 18 and hasn't gained 1 pound, even though he's a gym rat and he's muscular, and he's now just under 5'10". Not to make a favorable or unfavorable comparison,just a recollection. I can remember saying several times that I thought D-Cat woulda been a real beast in the league if he had the type of size you're describing. No slight against the Cat,the kid made the league @19,averaged 34per over his first 6yrs and 4 different HC's and he's yet to miss a game to injury. Dam impressive for a player his size,down year or not. I don't know if Bedard will match D-Cat's first two year goal total w/o a Kane type player but it's the total package of skill-sets that has Bedard at the top of a great class. Like I said OTH,I remember saying "if this D-cat kid was just 5"11" 190lbs',he'd be a BEAST!".........Bedard will be at least that big when he fills-out! Bedard's a better skater and play-maker than DeBrincat was at the same age and that's also no slight either because Bedard's the most skilled kid to come along in years. The kid's a center and that's at the core of his value too,if he can win north of 40% at the dot to start and show some defensive responsibility to go along with his elite offensive skills..........he'd check a box or two......wouldn't he? Goals will come,he possesses an elite shot,the ability to get open and the skill to make the one-on-one play as well. Assists will come due to his passing,skating and on-ice vision but how many assists will depend on how many of his dishes get finished. To those more familiar with Connor Bedard's game,do we mostly see a dazzling,young plyer on the rush and cycle at first,or do we also see a solid fore-checker who can win a bord battle or go to the front.......do they want him doing much of the later with the other skills he has? |
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Post by steamer on Jun 18, 2023 8:47:17 GMT -6
It does appear he can do anything out there and is game to do so. Agreed it will be interesting to see how they go about using him. Here’s a bizarre thought - how about having him on the PK? He would be a threat the opponents would have to keep in mind.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 18, 2023 10:15:18 GMT -6
It seems strange that Bedard was listed at 5'10" 185lbs at 16 and he's almost 18 and hasn't gained 1 pound, even though he's a gym rat and he's muscular, and he's now just under 5'10". Not to make a favorable or unfavorable comparison,just a recollection. I can remember saying several times that I thought D-Cat woulda been a real beast in the league if he had the type of size you're describing. No slight against the Cat,the kid made the league @19,averaged 34per over his first 6yrs and 4 different HC's and he's yet to miss a game to injury. Dam impressive for a player his size,down year or not. I don't know if Bedard will match D-Cat's first two year goal total w/o a Kane type player but it's the total package of skill-sets that has Bedard at the top of a great class. Like I said OTH,I remember saying "if this D-cat kid was just 5"11" 190lbs',he'd be a BEAST!".........Bedard will be at least that big when he fills-out! Bedard's a better skater and play-maker than DeBrincat was at the same age and that's also no slight either because Bedard's the most skilled kid to come along in years. The kid's a center and that's at the core of his value too,if he can win north of 40% at the dot to start and show some defensive responsibility to go along with his elite offensive skills..........he'd check a box or two......wouldn't he? Goals will come,he possesses an elite shot,the ability to get open and the skill to make the one-on-one play as well. Assists will come due to his passing,skating and on-ice vision but how many assists will depend on how many of his dishes get finished. To those more familiar with Connor Bedard's game,do we mostly see a dazzling,young plyer on the rush and cycle at first,or do we also see a solid fore-checker who can win a bord battle or go to the front.......do they want him doing much of the later with the other skills he has? Definitely no slight against Debrincat, he's a beast at 5'7" and always beat the odds. But yeah if he was a few inches taller and close to 190lbs he'd be an elite superstar, which he almost is. As for Bedard, the kid wants to win and will do anything to do it, which includes playing a strong defensive game, that really stood out at the World Juniors, plus he forechecks hard to get pucks and his ot goal versus Slovakia shows he's willing to go to the net. Or his record breaking goal going to the net and tapping in a perfect feed from Del Mastro, who was almost at the goal line. With his strength and low center of gravity I can see him being around 50% at faceoffs, but even above 45% would be OK with everything else he brings to the table. |
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Post by ebonyraptor on Jun 18, 2023 11:44:17 GMT -6
Not to make a favorable or unfavorable comparison,just a recollection. I can remember saying several times that I thought D-Cat woulda been a real beast in the league if he had the type of size you're describing. No slight against the Cat,the kid made the league @19,averaged 34per over his first 6yrs and 4 different HC's and he's yet to miss a game to injury. Dam impressive for a player his size,down year or not. I don't know if Bedard will match D-Cat's first two year goal total w/o a Kane type player but it's the total package of skill-sets that has Bedard at the top of a great class. Like I said OTH,I remember saying "if this D-cat kid was just 5"11" 190lbs',he'd be a BEAST!".........Bedard will be at least that big when he fills-out! Bedard's a better skater and play-maker than DeBrincat was at the same age and that's also no slight either because Bedard's the most skilled kid to come along in years. The kid's a center and that's at the core of his value too,if he can win north of 40% at the dot to start and show some defensive responsibility to go along with his elite offensive skills..........he'd check a box or two......wouldn't he? Goals will come,he possesses an elite shot,the ability to get open and the skill to make the one-on-one play as well. Assists will come due to his passing,skating and on-ice vision but how many assists will depend on how many of his dishes get finished. To those more familiar with Connor Bedard's game,do we mostly see a dazzling,young plyer on the rush and cycle at first,or do we also see a solid fore-checker who can win a bord battle or go to the front.......do they want him doing much of the later with the other skills he has? With his strength and low center of gravity I can see him being around 50% at faceoffs, but even above 45% would be OK with everything else he brings to the table. He has stated his favorite player growing up was Crosby and remember Crosby was not good at faceoffs in his early years. But he worked on that weakness in his game and got better. Bedard has that same singular focus to get better at things. I would be surprised if he doesn't improve on faceoffs over the years. |
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Post by Nikos on Jun 18, 2023 11:57:34 GMT -6
It does appear he can do anything out there and is game to do so. Agreed it will be interesting to see how they go about using him. Here’s a bizarre thought - how about having him on the PK? He would be a threat the opponents would have to keep in mind. He will on the PK just not sure if it will sooner rather than later. McDavid, Crosby all play both PK and PP, Bedard in open ice with his vision, skating and hockey IQ will be dangerous on the PK. Once he learns the league, gets comfortable he will be a threat every time he is on the ice as I believe with his work ethic and his competitiveness he wants to a complete player which means play in all situations. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jun 18, 2023 15:40:57 GMT -6
FWIW, Bedard let the pats with 5 SHGs, 2 others on the team were tied for second with 2 each.
his 5 SHGs was good for 3rd in the WHL, 2 back of the leader.
I wouldn't be averse to giving him some PK time but i think it will be crucial to manage his minutes early in. I have faith richardson will be on top of this and do the right thing.
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Post by 2old4this on Jun 18, 2023 16:24:50 GMT -6
It seems strange that Bedard was listed at 5'10" 185lbs at 16 and he's almost 18 and hasn't gained 1 pound, even though he's a gym rat and he's muscular, and he's now just under 5'10". Same stats from the combine. Disappointing. |
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Post by steamer on Jun 18, 2023 16:50:17 GMT -6
Jack Hughes is 5’11” and 175 and and he’s now playing against the top defenders and doing ok - better than ok actually. Aho at 176 and Kucherov at 181.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 18, 2023 17:40:28 GMT -6
Jack Hughes is 5’11” and 175 and and he’s now playing against the top defenders and doing ok - better than ok actually. Aho at 176 and Kucherov at 181. I'm not worried about Bedards size, far from it. But considering he's either in the gym or playing hockey, you'd think he would've gained at least 1 pound since he was 16. |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 18, 2023 18:00:52 GMT -6
Jack Hughes is 5’11” and 175 and and he’s now playing against the top defenders and doing ok - better than ok actually. Aho at 176 and Kucherov at 181. I'm not worried about Bedards size, far from it. But considering he's either in the gym or playing hockey, you'd think he would've gained at least 1 pound since he was 16. maybe, but he is more likely to gain weight in the next 3 years than the past 3. |
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