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Post by mvr on Mar 28, 2024 6:20:30 GMT -6
I am no scout. But given the legit uncertainty around the top ten (and certainly beyond it), my instincts tell me this draft is likely quite weak.
Most of these young prospects lost a year or more of key development time to Covid. It could be that the kids behind them might be better and stronger.
One option to consider - trade down a few spots while looking to add a high pick in a later draft. I envision a team in the seventh/eighth slot offering their pick along with a first in 2025 or 2026 for the Hawks' first pick and other considerations.
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Post by BigT on Mar 28, 2024 6:40:22 GMT -6
I think the best player in this draft is Celebrini so he would be my first pick, and has been all season. However, as the weeks roll on and with CHL and NCAA playoffs almost upon us, and with the Hawks unlikely to have the best odds at getting that 1st pick - more and more I've been looking at the other guys who will be there after Celebrini is off the board. Eiserman was my favorite for moths until Lindstrom caught my eye. If I had to pick today - I think it would be Lindstrom slightly over Eiserman. BUT - there's a guy coming up on the outside gaining on them and might pass them by the time the draft rolls around and that's Zayne Parekh. Really really really like Parekh. There's more of a boom/bust factor with him than the other guys but if he hits - WOWZERS - we could have a superstar. One thing we need to keep in mind is some players will not develop in one place like they would in another. I think with the Hawks firepower that’s coming. Parekh might have no choice but to succeed. He’s ok defensively. But he’s just so good offensively and he’s not small. 6 foot is ok. I see him as a Gonchar, Erik Karlsson type player!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Mar 28, 2024 9:13:28 GMT -6
I cant believe we are saying no MC. He is listed at 6'0' 190. Sid is listed at 5'11" 200 good grief has anyone watched this kid play. I have no concerns if that is my second line center. I understand we need to get bigger but this might be our last chance to get a sure thing you dont throw that away. Shit look at that 2013 team 2 forwards over 6'1" trust me MC can play big and he is a killer. Trust me we can find a big wing to play with the 2 centers and if KD cant I sure can. I don't think anyone's saying "no MC",he and Bedard are the ultimate best players available in any draft,I don't believe either player is under-sized either,as you mentioned. We do have to remember that these are average sized kids who'll play in the NHL as teenagers though and the 'add size later' at forward mantra has seen it's 'Best by date' IMO. To the bolded,I can too and I metion a few from time to time. Fla already gave Forsling a big raise and Reinhart and Montour are both due for massive raises,there's no way they keep 27yro Bad Ass Sam Bennett's 4.425M next year,and he can play top-six too,playing 80gms or more in a season has been a challenge the last few years though. The Sens are another team that has more big,young forwards than they know what to do with and their good ones are all signed long-term. They also added Tarasenko,Kubalik and rookie Grieg this year,so not much TOI for 25yro 6'4" 226lb center Mark Kastelic. Ottawa's loaded at center and that's resulted in Kastelic being scratched a bunch and averaging only 7:28 when he's in,he saw 11:26 last night and had two helpers. He can skate pretty well for a big badass and has been over 55% at the dot every year so far and he's signed for 835K next year with RFA rights afterward. More than likely a tough,bottom-six center if he develops further,but who knows with enough opportunity. The Sens already have their centers and their big badasses,it would take little to acquire this player and I'd still take a run at 23yro raw-boned center Shane Pinto,he's gonna be a stud. Why not add a guy like Pat Maroon to the bottom-six this summer as a cheap UFA? We're four hours down the road from his hometown and he might want to finish his career here on a series on cheap one or two year deals. He's big and tough as nails! There are and will be other bigger,young forwards available with room left to develop and improve with more opportunity and some that are ready now that teams won't be able to keep. There's no team in the league with more ability as far as cap-space/draft capitol to acquire needed players than Chicago. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Mar 28, 2024 10:05:10 GMT -6
I think the best player in this draft is Celebrini so he would be my first pick, and has been all season. However, as the weeks roll on and with CHL and NCAA playoffs almost upon us, and with the Hawks unlikely to have the best odds at getting that 1st pick - more and more I've been looking at the other guys who will be there after Celebrini is off the board. Eiserman was my favorite for moths until Lindstrom caught my eye. If I had to pick today - I think it would be Lindstrom slightly over Eiserman. BUT - there's a guy coming up on the outside gaining on them and might pass them by the time the draft rolls around and that's Zayne Parekh. Really really really like Parekh. There's more of a boom/bust factor with him than the other guys but if he hits - WOWZERS - we could have a superstar. One thing we need to keep in mind is some players will not develop in one place like they would in another. I think with the Hawks firepower that’s coming. Parekh might have no choice but to succeed. He’s ok defensively. But he’s just so good offensively and he’s not small. 6 foot is ok. I see him as a Gonchar, Erik Karlsson type player!!! 6' 180lbs, same as Boqvist, if they take a dman with their top5 pick, I'd go with a bigger guy like Levshunov. |
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Post by ebonyraptor on Mar 28, 2024 10:47:45 GMT -6
One thing we need to keep in mind is some players will not develop in one place like they would in another. I think with the Hawks firepower that’s coming. Parekh might have no choice but to succeed. He’s ok defensively. But he’s just so good offensively and he’s not small. 6 foot is ok. I see him as a Gonchar, Erik Karlsson type player!!! 6' 180lbs, same as Boqvist, if they take a dman with their top5 pick, I'd go with a bigger guy like Levshunov. Parekh is not like Boqvist. Parekh is a much better offensive player and he doesn't play "dainty" like Boqvist did. |
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Post by tincup on Mar 28, 2024 13:35:59 GMT -6
I cant believe we are saying no MC. He is listed at 6'0' 190. Sid is listed at 5'11" 200 good grief has anyone watched this kid play. I have no concerns if that is my second line center. I understand we need to get bigger but this might be our last chance to get a sure thing you dont throw that away. Shit look at that 2013 team 2 forwards over 6'1" trust me MC can play big and he is a killer. Trust me we can find a big wing to play with the 2 centers and if KD cant I sure can. I don't think anyone's saying "no MC",he and Bedard are the ultimate best players available in any draft,I don't believe either player is under-sized either,as you mentioned. We do have to remember that these are average sized kids who'll play in the NHL as teenagers though and the 'add size later' at forward mantra has seen it's 'Best by date' IMO. To the bolded,I can too and I metion a few from time to time. Fla already gave Forsling a big raise and Reinhart and Montour are both due for massive raises,there's no way they keep 27yro Bad Ass Sam Bennett's 4.425M next year,and he can play top-six too,playing 80gms or more in a season has been a challenge the last few years though. The Sens are another team that has more big,young forwards than they know what to do with and their good ones are all signed long-term. They also added Tarasenko,Kubalik and rookie Grieg this year,so not much TOI for 25yro 6'4" 226lb center Mark Kastelic. Ottawa's loaded at center and that's resulted in Kastelic being scratched a bunch and averaging only 7:28 when he's in,he saw 11:26 last night and had two helpers. He can skate pretty well for a big badass and has been over 55% at the dot every year so far and he's signed for 835K next year with RFA rights afterward. More than likely a tough,bottom-six center if he develops further,but who knows with enough opportunity. The Sens already have their centers and their big badasses,it would take little to acquire this player and I'd still take a run at 23yro raw-boned center Shane Pinto,he's gonna be a stud. Why not add a guy like Pat Maroon to the bottom-six this summer as a cheap UFA? We're four hours down the road from his hometown and he might want to finish his career here on a series on cheap one or two year deals. He's big and tough as nails! There are and will be other bigger,young forwards available with room left to develop and improve with more opportunity and some that are ready now that teams won't be able to keep. There's no team in the league with more ability as far as cap-space/draft capitol to acquire needed players than Chicago. I’ll have to keep an eye on the two Sens tonight. |
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Post by BigT on Mar 28, 2024 14:11:54 GMT -6
One thing we need to keep in mind is some players will not develop in one place like they would in another. I think with the Hawks firepower that’s coming. Parekh might have no choice but to succeed. He’s ok defensively. But he’s just so good offensively and he’s not small. 6 foot is ok. I see him as a Gonchar, Erik Karlsson type player!!! 6' 180lbs, same as Boqvist, if they take a dman with their top5 pick, I'd go with a bigger guy like Levshunov. Definitely not taking Parekh with the top pick. He’s ranked anywhere from 9-21. So he may actually be there for the Hawks!!! |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Mar 28, 2024 14:14:39 GMT -6
6' 180lbs, same as Boqvist, if they take a dman with their top5 pick, I'd go with a bigger guy like Levshunov. Parekh is not like Boqvist. Parekh is a much better offensive player and he doesn't play "dainty" like Boqvist did. Boqvist did score 27 goals his only season in the OHL, and 10 goals in 11 playoff games. But yeah he's very soft, and terrible in his own end. But still, I'd take Levshunov. If they take Lindstrom with their top5 pick, their next pick should be Yakemchuk, 6'3" right handed dman who also scored 30 goals, like Parekh. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Mar 28, 2024 14:18:09 GMT -6
6' 180lbs, same as Boqvist, if they take a dman with their top5 pick, I'd go with a bigger guy like Levshunov. Definitely not taking Parekh with the top pick. He’s ranked anywhere from 9-21. So he may actually be there for the Hawks!!! One mock draft has him going 8th, but most scouts have him in that 9-21 range. I haven't seen him play but I'd rather take a chance with Levshunov or Yakemchuk if they want a right handed dman. |
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Mar 28, 2024 19:02:44 GMT -6
So I saw that Ivan Demidov has jump to number #2 on this years scouting list. Is this the type of player Hawks should look at if he is available, and if drafted like Mitchkov when would he be available to play in North America. I have also been reading that Lindstrom is a possible option as well with the Hawks early pick, but does his wrist injury push him down the draft board, and would it be a wise decision to take him with an early pick? I like the defenders in this draft, but the Hawks need help up front, so the question is, who can jump in asap.Is cayden Lidstrome ready for the NHL.
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Mar 28, 2024 19:06:17 GMT -6
6' 180lbs, same as Boqvist, if they take a dman with their top5 pick, I'd go with a bigger guy like Levshunov. Definitely not taking Parekh with the top pick. He’s ranked anywhere from 9-21. So he may actually be there for the Hawks!!! Would Ivan Demidov be a good option for the Hawks T, I don’t really follow these guys out in Russia, but he is getting high praise, getting comparables to Kucherov. |
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Post by tincup on Mar 28, 2024 20:03:21 GMT -6
Demidov’s hilites….don’t know how this translates but they do compare his stats with some pretty impressive current stars…
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Mar 29, 2024 6:45:51 GMT -6
Demidov’s hilites….don’t know how this translates but they do compare his stats with some pretty impressive current stars… If drafted by the hawks, if, when would he be eligible to play in NA. |
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Post by BigT on Mar 29, 2024 7:10:01 GMT -6
Definitely not taking Parekh with the top pick. He’s ranked anywhere from 9-21. So he may actually be there for the Hawks!!! One mock draft has him going 8th, but most scouts have him in that 9-21 range. I haven't seen him play but I'd rather take a chance with Levshunov or Yakemchuk if they want a right handed dman. Just check out this kids stats for yourself. Like, this kid is an offensive dynamo. Put him with Bedard and lookout. Remember, this would be great for a forward. Like really great. But for a kid who was 17. Amazing. Also I’ve seen him play 5-6 times over the past 2 years!!! www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=252857 |
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Post by BigT on Mar 29, 2024 7:19:48 GMT -6
Definitely not taking Parekh with the top pick. He’s ranked anywhere from 9-21. So he may actually be there for the Hawks!!! Would Ivan Demidov be a good option for the Hawks T, I don’t really follow these guys out in Russia, but he is getting high praise, getting comparables to Kucherov. He has only one year left with Ska. I really don’t know much about Russian players. I read an article saying that we’ll have to see him next season against men in the KHL to make any type of judgment. But we’d all be fools if we thought there were no good Russian players ever again. We all know the conflict going on and unfortunately young kids are paying the price for adult lunacy. My guess is Russia wins a gold medal at the WJC in the last 2 years. There’ll be some good kids coming. If I had a GM job. I’d load up on Russian players in the 2-7 rounds. I’m pretty sure you’ll get a few gems outta there. And, the Hawks seem like a team that’d actually pay a Russian scout to report to them. So maybe the Hawks have an inside scoop? Unfortunately I do not. I know a few scouts and they’re stationed in southern Ontario. So they don’t have any info either on the Russians. But the highlights look pretty impressive. And the articles say he’s like Michkov. So who knows!!! |
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Post by Nikos on Mar 29, 2024 7:33:18 GMT -6
Demidov’s hilites….don’t know how this translates but they do compare his stats with some pretty impressive current stars… Thanks for sharing. On the small end size wise, high end talent, great hands, great passer, you have the Russian factor too. Teams that need D will probably pass, do not see him slipping past the top 5 though. |
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Post by mikeveisor on Mar 29, 2024 7:36:35 GMT -6
One mock draft has him going 8th, but most scouts have him in that 9-21 range. I haven't seen him play but I'd rather take a chance with Levshunov or Yakemchuk if they want a right handed dman. Just check out this kids stats for yourself. Like, this kid is an offensive dynamo. Put him with Bedard and lookout. Remember, this would be great for a forward. Like really great. But for a kid who was 17. Amazing. Also I’ve seen him play 5-6 times over the past 2 years!!! www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=252857I am going out on a limb here T - the Hawks may be pretty familiar with his play and potential given his having played in the same division as Gavin Hayes last year plus a chunk of this year. On a first place team, and leading them in scoring by 20+ points ( www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0030122024.html) as a D-man. Ok, pretty impressive. |
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Post by mikeveisor on Mar 29, 2024 7:42:02 GMT -6
Demidov’s hilites….don’t know how this translates but they do compare his stats with some pretty impressive current stars… Thanks for sharing. On the small end size wise, high end talent, great hands, great passer, you have the Russian factor too. Teams that need D will probably pass, do not see him slipping past the top 5 though. Oy. I remember that same sounding hype around Krivokrasov during the Roenick/Chelios/Belfour-era. Other than one OT winner I THINK I remember, Sergei's time was pedestrian at best. |
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Post by ebonyraptor on Mar 29, 2024 8:35:16 GMT -6
Definitely not taking Parekh with the top pick. He’s ranked anywhere from 9-21. So he may actually be there for the Hawks!!! One mock draft has him going 8th, but most scouts have him in that 9-21 range. I haven't seen him play but I'd rather take a chance with Levshunov or Yakemchuk if they want a right handed dman. I know Craig Button isn't one of the more highly thought of prospect evaluators but his latest top-64 has Parekh 3rd behind only Celebrini and Demidov. |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Mar 29, 2024 8:48:38 GMT -6
6' 180lbs, same as Boqvist, if they take a dman with their top5 pick, I'd go with a bigger guy like Levshunov. Parekh is not like Boqvist. Parekh is a much better offensive player and he doesn't play "dainty" like Boqvist did. ER ill ask you since you have seen Parekh play the thing I always wondered about Boquist is he had average speed at most. How would you rate Parekh speed? |
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Post by BigT on Mar 29, 2024 9:14:42 GMT -6
Parekh is not like Boqvist. Parekh is a much better offensive player and he doesn't play "dainty" like Boqvist did. ER ill ask you since you have seen Parekh play the thing I always wondered about Boquist is he had average speed at most. How would you rate Parekh speed? I’ve seen him about 5 times I’ll say. Maybe 6. He’s got all the tools. He’s fast, good edges, he seems to have that “Makar” type ceiling. I said he’s just a result of his team for a long time. Now from what I seen, I think the team is a result of him. He’ll go back to the OHL next year. And he’ll get traded and dominate wherever he goes. I doubt he plays 2 more years in the O. He’ll be like Korchinski, nothing for him to prove!!! |
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Post by BigT on Mar 29, 2024 11:27:08 GMT -6
I’ve read a lot about Parekh being #2/3 overall. He’s a right handed D with incredible skill. His skating is elite. Here’s a video clip of him. He’s being heavily compared to Erik Karlsson. Craig Button says that at the beginning of this clip. But I read a few things on him today and they’re saying he’s the real deal!!! youtu.be/u7FGxHOjew8?si=meXtAFDhc_oFobzz |
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Post by vadarx on Mar 29, 2024 11:43:28 GMT -6
Definitely not taking Parekh with the top pick. He’s ranked anywhere from 9-21. So he may actually be there for the Hawks!!! Would Ivan Demidov be a good option for the Hawks T, I don’t really follow these guys out in Russia, but he is getting high praise, getting comparables to Kucherov. he strikes me as not really being an option, partially due to his size and partially due to the lack of developmental control the 'hawks would likely have to deal with. |
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Post by vadarx on Mar 29, 2024 11:45:13 GMT -6
as I said before, LOTS of good d prospects this draft. this might be the draft KfC should really look into moving up from the Tampa pick, either a good d might drop or a forward might fall due to teams scrambling to get in on the defensive prospects...
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Post by ebonyraptor on Mar 29, 2024 11:59:53 GMT -6
Parekh is not like Boqvist. Parekh is a much better offensive player and he doesn't play "dainty" like Boqvist did. ER ill ask you since you have seen Parekh play the thing I always wondered about Boquist is he had average speed at most. How would you rate Parekh speed? I'll defer to Big-T or others who have seen him play more than me. I've seen Saginaw play a handful of times when they happened to be playing a team with one of the Blackhawk prospects - and only on TV - never live. My takeaway from those few viewings is I don't recall anything exceptional from him - but at those times I really wasn't focused on watching him either. He's only showed up on my radar over the past month or so and I I may have seen 1 game since then - maybe 2 at most. But then again - I'm high on Lindstrom too and haven't seen any games of his because I haven't seen any WHL games this season and he's been out injured since he showed up on my prospect radar. |
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Post by BigT on Mar 29, 2024 12:16:08 GMT -6
ER ill ask you since you have seen Parekh play the thing I always wondered about Boquist is he had average speed at most. How would you rate Parekh speed? I'll defer to Big-T or others who have seen him play more than me. I've seen Saginaw play a handful of times when they happened to be playing a team with one of the Blackhawk prospects - and only on TV - never live. My takeaway from those few viewings is I don't recall anything exceptional from him - but at those times I really wasn't focused on watching him either. He's only showed up on my radar over the past month or so and I I may have seen 1 game since then - maybe 2 at most. But then again - I'm high on Lindstrom too and haven't seen any games of his because I haven't seen any WHL games this season and he's been out injured since he showed up on my prospect radar. It was maybe a month ago. I was at the Spits game vs Saginaw. They killed my Spits like 11-1. Parekh had 2 goals and 3-4 assists. He was the best player on the ice. I just remember them constantly calling his name over every goal announcement. My son follows the OHL better than I do. He talked about Parekh for the last 4-5 months. I never bought it and I assumed it was mostly due to his team. But he’s definitely the straw that stirs that drink. I mean it’s insane how good he is. Just watch those hilights. He controls the play sooooo well. He’s a real QB. He looks like a cross between Keith and Makar. 96 points for a 17 year old is hard to find. But from a Dman is really unheard of. I think he’ll be the perfect new age Dman!!! |
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Post by ebonyraptor on Mar 29, 2024 12:18:08 GMT -6
as I said before, LOTS of good d prospects this draft. this might be the draft KfC should really look into moving up from the Tampa pick, either a good d might drop or a forward might fall due to teams scrambling to get in on the defensive prospects... Yep. I think the only one who may step into the NHL next season is Celebrini and there's no guarantee he won't decide to go back to Boston for another year. Which means - whoever the Hawks draft with that 1st pick will take at least 1 year and probably 2 years before they are ready to contribute to the Hawks rebuild. Going back to the summer of 2022 when the trades of DCat and Dach (after the trade of Hagel earlier in the year) cemented in the reality that the Hawks were in a true tear-it-down rebuild - something I don't recall ever seeing the Hawks do before. It was new and unexplored territory and the natural response by all Hawks fans was to opine how long the rebuild would take - even if it meant that it would take so long no one could give a rational guess. For my (optimistic) take - I guessed it would take until 2025/26 before the defensive core were in place and ready to compete and another season or two after that until the team was officially rebuilt and ready to compete for the Cup - so earliest would be 2026/27. I'm starting to think I was a bit too optimistic with that timeline. I suppose it could still happen in the next 3-4 years but I'm less optimistic than I was when the rebuild was started. I still think a rebuild was needed and I still think KD's approach was the best way to do it - but it's looking like it ain't going to happen as quickly as I had hoped. |
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Post by tincup on Mar 29, 2024 13:47:41 GMT -6
Levshunov or Parekh? Would it be fair to categorize them as one defenceman with good defence and some offense and the other as a defenceman with good offense and some defence?
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Post by tincup on Mar 29, 2024 13:59:59 GMT -6
If they pick a d-man first there’s still going to be good picks lower down. If looking for a centre with good size Sacha Boisvert, a UND commit, is a mid first round to a high second rounder. Top 15 in USHL scoring. I’d also look into his teammate, Matvei Gridin, a UM commit, leading the USHL in scoring. Good size and skills. I like it when Euro’s come over early to acclimate to N.A. hockey.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Mar 29, 2024 15:26:29 GMT -6
If they pick a d-man first there’s still going to be good picks lower down. If looking for a centre with good size Sacha Boisvert, a UND commit, is a mid first round to a high second rounder. Top 15 in USHL scoring. I’d also look into his teammate, Matvei Gridin, a UM commit, leading the USHL in scoring. Good size and skills. I like it when Euro’s come over early to acclimate to N.A. hockey. I'd also target Iginla with their mid first, or Battaglia. |
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