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Post by phill9 on Nov 28, 2023 21:10:19 GMT -6
Are they still called tweets? I thought the birds were X'd out? Old habits I guess. Just sounds right. I've never had my own Twitter account, although I found out someone set up a fake account using my name and picture. I knew who it was, reported them, but I was the one Twitter made prove who I was before they'd delete the account. And they said they wouldn't delete the guy who used my info because he didn't violate any of their CoC. |
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Post by tincup on Nov 28, 2023 21:24:39 GMT -6
Old habits I guess. Just sounds right. I've never had my own Twitter account, although I found out someone set up a fake account using my name and picture. I knew who it was, reported them, but I was the one Twitter made prove who I was before they'd delete the account. And they said they wouldn't delete the guy who used my info because he didn't violate any of their CoC. I stay quiet and uninvolved. Never made a tweet or retweeted anything. I have one follower which I assume is some kind of bot, I just follow people and orgs for the entertainment value. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 29, 2023 0:44:28 GMT -6
emily kaplan is saying the whole perry clusterf*** had something to do with a team employee (not a player). Davidson said the team was first notified of the allegations last week when the Blackhawks were in Columbus, Ohio, on Wednesday to play the Blue Jackets. Sources told ESPN's Emily Kaplan that Perry indeed traveled with the team to Columbus last Tuesday, a day before the game, and an incident occurred that day involving a team employee. Davidson said Perry, who did not play in the team's 7-3 loss, was "immediately pulled" from the game once the Blackhawks were notified, and at that point, the club began an investigation.www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/38999666/blackhawks-waive-corey-perry-unacceptable-conduct |
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Post by 2old4this on Nov 29, 2023 2:25:09 GMT -6
Sex or drugs. Or sex and drugs. God. please let it be drugs and not sex in the showers.
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 29, 2023 6:56:31 GMT -6
I've never had my own Twitter account, although I found out someone set up a fake account using my name and picture. I knew who it was, reported them, but I was the one Twitter made prove who I was before they'd delete the account. And they said they wouldn't delete the guy who used my info because he didn't violate any of their CoC. I stay quiet and uninvolved. Never made a tweet or retweeted anything. I have one follower which I assume is some kind of bot, I just follow people and orgs for the entertainment value. I got banned from twitter 5 years ago for quoting the 2A. To this day they still won't lift the ban. |
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Post by steamer on Nov 29, 2023 8:46:52 GMT -6
I stay quiet and uninvolved. Never made a tweet or retweeted anything. I have one follower which I assume is some kind of bot, I just follow people and orgs for the entertainment value. I got banned from twitter 5 years ago for quoting the 2A. To this day they still won't lift the ban. Seriously? |
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Post by tincup on Nov 29, 2023 9:20:22 GMT -6
I stay quiet and uninvolved. Never made a tweet or retweeted anything. I have one follower which I assume is some kind of bot, I just follow people and orgs for the entertainment value. I got banned from twitter 5 years ago for quoting the 2A. To this day they still won't lift the ban. Even under Musk? I’ve seen some pretty outrageous stuff on that platform. |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 29, 2023 10:16:03 GMT -6
who cares what he did? i do for one. 99% of my being thought the story of sleeping with bedard's mother was preposterous but that other 1% was nagging at me. what if... all i'm saying is i'm glad we can put that stupid rumor to bed and move on. Are you saying that even if he didn't sleep with B's momma, you still care about what he might have done to justify the contract termination? The guy was playing as well and fitting-in even better than anticipated,he was making the young GM's acquisition look as good as possible. I would think conduct so "unacceptable" that it demanded the termination of his contract would be something everyone would care about.....JMO. Will "internal personnel matter and we'll leave it at that" suffice with the league,the PA or interested teams? |
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Post by mikeveisor on Nov 29, 2023 10:52:38 GMT -6
Are you saying that even if he didn't sleep with B's momma, you still care about what he might have done to justify the contract termination? Will "internal personnel matter and we'll leave it at that" suffice with the league,the PA or interested teams? I believe KD stated that the team's decision was conveyed to and cleared by (though I may have misinterpreted the comment) the NHLPA as a straightforward code of conduct matter. I assume that CP could still pursue a grievance against the team - and if he does, is it fair to assume that that grievance and evidence/arguments about the contract termination would become public knowledge then? If so, and CP really feels like he got screwed in this instance (no pun intended), he could bring this forward. He could also just step forward now to address this with the media, but his agent is probably suggesting he lay low (again, no pun intended). For the team to provide more detail now would be to likely expose a staffer who is not otherwise seeking the media attention this whole thing is getting - at least he/she has not sought the attention by stepping forward yet (maybe on advise of his/her counsel). That staffer may hypothetically be traumatized and, therefore, does not need a circus atmosphere added to daily life right now. So if there is any basis to pursue civil action against the org as a consequence, I can see why the org would be careful in how much they disclose now. To disclose the nature of all this would likely impact that staffer's immediate privacy interest. Alternatively, if there is a potential claim by the staffer against CP, then this will most certainly come out in a court filing if that person wants to come forward. I am guessing that the organization is trying to be as cooperative here as it can where CP left them (the organization) a sh-t sandwich to deal with in the run-up to the Columbus game, about something that happened that many of us wish did not (grudgingly, I was warming up to Perry in the Indianhead), whatever it is. I can understand the limitation of disclosure likely being advised by organizational counsel so far - yesterday's press conference sounded like the standard "be forthcoming but do not go into significant detail" - hell, the staffer may be seeking counsel now so the team would be loathe to step out too far just yet. I have no doubt that this is being handled 180-degree differently than the prior regime and that is one positive. Time will tell on what we all can learn. |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 29, 2023 11:31:22 GMT -6
A 38-year-old man typically does not suddenly develop "bad character" habits which lead to a contract termination. In all probability, he has been doing much the same thing for years while employed for several organizations. This leads to the question - Why did the Hawks take action when the other teams perhaps did not? Did the Hawks discover something the other organizations did not know about? Was Hawks management less tolerant of behaviour that other teams put up with? Are the Hawks more sensitive to potential public relations nightmares because of the team's recent unsavory history? Would Perry have been terminated if he was not playing in Chicago? Should Davidson and staff take some ownership in not researching this player more carefully before paying out the contract? We know the General Manager considered Toews and Kane as obstacles preventing his young players from growing up. Obviously, Perry was considered (too late) a problem as well. Corey Perry had already developed bad character during his entire career. He was a cheap shot artist, which is bad character, in my opinion. What is a cheap shot artist? It is a player who tries to hurt other players in sneaky ways so he doesn't get penalized, or fined; or someone who always runs away from the accounting when another player comes around seeking revenge for the harm done to his teammate. Nobody criticized him more for his play than me,before and after his arrival but I never remember a single off-ice transgression or problem in any 'room' he's been in to be fair. Quite the contrary,he's been a popular teammate and veteran voice throughout his career and he was here too. I admit to not liking the move for all the reasons you mentioned jack,I thought he could bring more trouble the kid's way than he could prevent or deflect but he was proving me completely wrong up until last Tuesday when he was staying late with Bedard after practice. I thought Perry was playing as 'honest' as he ever has so far this year and he's been more than willing to step-in and deflect on the part of his young teammates w/o hesitation,more effective than anticipated on-ice and the well liked 'guy' in the room they said he'd be. There was still a ways to go but I was wrong on Perry up to that point for the reasons I mentioned. With Perry's career off-ice background,I see NO reason the young GM could have had to anticipate a character problem but some conduct unacceptable enough to terminate the contract of a player that was making that young GM look good had to happen and there'll be parties like the league,the PA and interested teams who'll NEED to know what that was. Perry's reputation and career are at stake here.........we gotta hear something from him soon....no? |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 29, 2023 12:04:16 GMT -6
Will "internal personnel matter and we'll leave it at that" suffice with the league,the PA or interested teams? I believe KD stated that the team's decision was conveyed to and cleared by (though I may have misinterpreted the comment) the NHLPA as a straightforward code of conduct matter. I assume that CP could still pursue a grievance against the team - and if he does, is it fair to assume that that grievance and evidence/arguments about the contract termination would become public knowledge then? If so, and CP really feels like he got screwed in this instance (no pun intended), he could bring this forward. He could also just step forward now to address this with the media, but his agent is probably suggesting he lay low (again, no pun intended). For the team to provide more detail now would be to likely expose a staffer who is not otherwise seeking the media attention this whole thing is getting - at least he/she has not sought the attention by stepping forward yet (maybe on advise of his/her counsel). That staffer may hypothetically be traumatized and, therefore, does not need a circus atmosphere added to daily life right now. So if there is any basis to pursue civil action against the org as a consequence, I can see why the org would be careful in how much they disclose now. To disclose the nature of all this would likely impact that staffer's immediate privacy interest. Alternatively, if there is a potential claim by the staffer against CP, then this will most certainly come out in a court filing if that person wants to come forward. I am guessing that the organization is trying to be as cooperative here as it can where CP left them (the organization) a sh-t sandwich to deal with in the run-up to the Columbus game, about something that happened that many of us wish did not (grudgingly, I was warming up to Perry in the Indianhead), whatever it is. I can understand the limitation of disclosure likely being advised by organizational counsel so far - yesterday's press conference sounded like the standard "be forthcoming but do not go into significant detail" - hell, the staffer may be seeking counsel now so the team would be loathe to step out too far just yet. I have no doubt that this is being handled 180-degree differently than the prior regime and that is one positive. Time will tell on what we all can learn. You point out the many factors at play and I'll once again digress if there are reasons the Org 'can't' divulge the nature of the 'conduct' but Perry's reputation and career are at stake here.....not to mention the team's recent issues. I have no doubt a team of Org. attorneys are driving the narrative and "does not need a circus atmosphere added to daily life right now" sounds familiar to me. There ARE privacy issues at stake too but we don't know that the 'conduct' is of a sexual nature what soever,Corry Perry's been a happily married man for eight years with a solid off-ice reputation @38. Mrazak was held-out of a scheduled start and a practice the time Perry saw his first scratch,could Perry have re-acted badly to a pending or suggested trade and told some assoc GM to F off after relocating his family here this summer? |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 29, 2023 12:39:25 GMT -6
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Post by shooter61 on Nov 29, 2023 13:00:14 GMT -6
I can't believe the amount of time people are trying to spin this story to fit their narrative, personally I don't care what he did , My concern is the hawks, and what they do on the ice , this other stuff, is nonsense, I don't care if KD didn't use the right words, or should have said something else, he's a GM not a public speaker, as long as it doesn't effect their on ice play , who gives a poop
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Post by shooter61 on Nov 29, 2023 13:07:22 GMT -6
Gt I'm not getting any context in your posts you're quoting a tweet i posted by cap friendly. do you mean to say that my post appears blank to you? yes the page is blank , only for you though everyone else, come through fine maybe it's only your tweets, that show blank, I could see that lol if it makes any sense |
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Post by tincup on Nov 29, 2023 13:36:07 GMT -6
you're quoting a tweet i posted by cap friendly. do you mean to say that my post appears blank to you? yes the page is blank , only for you though everyone else, come through fine maybe it's only your tweets, that show blank, I could see that lol if it makes any sense I mentioned this last night. I had a whole convo with GT over this. I couldn’t see anybody’s Tweets either when I had my VPN on, couldn’t even see my own when I posted. Might this be the problem? Even when I use the VPN so I can stream the games I sometimes can’t see tweets in the message board I could previously see. They just disappear until I turn it off again. |
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Post by shooter61 on Nov 29, 2023 13:46:56 GMT -6
yes the page is blank , only for you though everyone else, come through fine maybe it's only your tweets, that show blank, I could see that lol if it makes any sense I mentioned this last night. I had a whole convo with GT over this. I couldn’t see anybody’s Tweets either when I had my VPN on, couldn’t even see my own when I posted. Might this be the problem? Even when I use the VPN so I can stream the games I sometimes can’t see tweets in the message board I could previously see. They just disappear until I turn it off again. ok will try that, but other tweets show |
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Post by tincup on Nov 29, 2023 13:50:03 GMT -6
NHLPA has 60 days to appeal.
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Post by tincup on Nov 29, 2023 13:51:30 GMT -6
I mentioned this last night. I had a whole convo with GT over this. I couldn’t see anybody’s Tweets either when I had my VPN on, couldn’t even see my own when I posted. Might this be the problem? Even when I use the VPN so I can stream the games I sometimes can’t see tweets in the message board I could previously see. They just disappear until I turn it off again. ok will try that, but other tweets show I just tweeted something. I can’t see it for the above reason. Can you see it? edit…ok, I’m farting around. I can see tweets when my VPN is on to somewhere in my own country (Canada in my case) but any other country leaves a blank. |
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Post by Nikos on Nov 29, 2023 13:55:58 GMT -6
I believe KD stated that the team's decision was conveyed to and cleared by (though I may have misinterpreted the comment) the NHLPA as a straightforward code of conduct matter. I assume that CP could still pursue a grievance against the team - and if he does, is it fair to assume that that grievance and evidence/arguments about the contract termination would become public knowledge then? If so, and CP really feels like he got screwed in this instance (no pun intended), he could bring this forward. He could also just step forward now to address this with the media, but his agent is probably suggesting he lay low (again, no pun intended). For the team to provide more detail now would be to likely expose a staffer who is not otherwise seeking the media attention this whole thing is getting - at least he/she has not sought the attention by stepping forward yet (maybe on advise of his/her counsel). That staffer may hypothetically be traumatized and, therefore, does not need a circus atmosphere added to daily life right now. So if there is any basis to pursue civil action against the org as a consequence, I can see why the org would be careful in how much they disclose now. To disclose the nature of all this would likely impact that staffer's immediate privacy interest. Alternatively, if there is a potential claim by the staffer against CP, then this will most certainly come out in a court filing if that person wants to come forward. I am guessing that the organization is trying to be as cooperative here as it can where CP left them (the organization) a sh-t sandwich to deal with in the run-up to the Columbus game, about something that happened that many of us wish did not (grudgingly, I was warming up to Perry in the Indianhead), whatever it is. I can understand the limitation of disclosure likely being advised by organizational counsel so far - yesterday's press conference sounded like the standard "be forthcoming but do not go into significant detail" - hell, the staffer may be seeking counsel now so the team would be loathe to step out too far just yet. I have no doubt that this is being handled 180-degree differently than the prior regime and that is one positive. Time will tell on what we all can learn. You point out the many factors at play and I'll once again digress if there are reasons the Org 'can't' divulge the nature of the 'conduct' but Perry's reputation and career are at stake here.....not to mention the team's recent issues. I have no doubt a team of Org. attorneys are driving the narrative and "does not need a circus atmosphere added to daily life right now" sounds familiar to me. There ARE privacy issues at stake too but we don't know that the 'conduct' is of a sexual nature what soever,Corry Perry's been a happily married man for eight years with a solid off-ice reputation @38. Mrazak was held-out of a scheduled start and a practice the time Perry saw his first scratch,could Perry have re-acted badly to a pending or suggested trade and told some assoc GM to F off after relocating his family here this summer? Let's not forget the strong endorsement from Richardson who praised Perry with how he worked with younger players while in Montreal. Sure he was disliked by many for his antics on the ice, but never saw any signs off the ice that would now have his contract terminated. Davidson used the term disgusting in his presser, think this is more than telling someone in the front office to take a hike due to a potential trade. |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 29, 2023 14:03:29 GMT -6
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 29, 2023 14:41:24 GMT -6
You point out the many factors at play and I'll once again digress if there are reasons the Org 'can't' divulge the nature of the 'conduct' but Perry's reputation and career are at stake here.....not to mention the team's recent issues. I have no doubt a team of Org. attorneys are driving the narrative and "does not need a circus atmosphere added to daily life right now" sounds familiar to me. There ARE privacy issues at stake too but we don't know that the 'conduct' is of a sexual nature what soever,Corry Perry's been a happily married man for eight years with a solid off-ice reputation @38. Mrazak was held-out of a scheduled start and a practice the time Perry saw his first scratch,could Perry have re-acted badly to a pending or suggested trade and told some assoc GM to F off after relocating his family here this summer? Let's not forget the strong endorsement from Richardson who praised Perry with how he worked with younger players while in Montreal. Sure he was disliked by many for his antics on the ice, but never saw any signs off the ice that would now have his contract terminated. Davidson used the term disgusting in his presser, think this is more than telling someone in the front office to take a hike due to a potential trade. He was referring to the rumor of CP sleeping with CB's mom. He considered that stupid rumor as disgusting. |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 29, 2023 14:41:32 GMT -6
You point out the many factors at play and I'll once again digress if there are reasons the Org 'can't' divulge the nature of the 'conduct' but Perry's reputation and career are at stake here.....not to mention the team's recent issues. I have no doubt a team of Org. attorneys are driving the narrative and "does not need a circus atmosphere added to daily life right now" sounds familiar to me. There ARE privacy issues at stake too but we don't know that the 'conduct' is of a sexual nature what soever,Corry Perry's been a happily married man for eight years with a solid off-ice reputation @38. Mrazak was held-out of a scheduled start and a practice the time Perry saw his first scratch,could Perry have re-acted badly to a pending or suggested trade and told some assoc GM to F off after relocating his family here this summer? Let's not forget the strong endorsement from Richardson who praised Perry with how he worked with younger players while in Montreal. Sure he was disliked by many for his antics on the ice, but never saw any signs off the ice that would now have his contract terminated. Davidson used the term disgusting in his presser, think this is more than telling someone in the front office to take a hike due to a potential trade. I agree with the on-ice antics,which I've mentioned myself but I believe his off-ice reputation has stood unblemished for two decades and his veteran leadership was on display up until last Tuesday. This might sound like a contradiction since I'm the guy who termed him a "four million dollar douche bag" but he was far from that in his short time here,he was actually everything the FO said he'd be up until that point.......I think we can all agree. LR's referral woulda been good for me too,the guy's the real deal IMO. He and Foligno are also close,Richardson helped the rookie quite a bit in Ottawa way back in '08-09',Richardson's last season. I was really just hoping for something more benign like a blow-up with a team official,it's hard to imagine a 38yro,with 20 years in the league and 8 in his marriage having an indiscretion at this point in his career. Can the young GM say what it's not and call the conduct "disgusting" without explanation? Correy Perry has a very possible HoF career and reputation to protect,it'll be interesting to see when,how and even IF he does. |
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Post by phill9 on Nov 29, 2023 14:50:26 GMT -6
Now the big question: Will the Hawks retire #94 and lower it to the "crap"ters to try and get rid of the stench of his ill ustrious Hawks career? Nah. Seabrook removed Chelios' stench. We just need a good 94. Now the question is who will remove Kanes stench. Chelios got traded to the Wings. Kane Chose to go there. |
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Nov 29, 2023 15:23:11 GMT -6
Let's not forget the strong endorsement from Richardson who praised Perry with how he worked with younger players while in Montreal. Sure he was disliked by many for his antics on the ice, but never saw any signs off the ice that would now have his contract terminated. Davidson used the term disgusting in his presser, think this is more than telling someone in the front office to take a hike due to a potential trade. I agree with the on-ice antics,which I've mentioned myself but I believe his off-ice reputation has stood unblemished for two decades and his veteran leadership was on display up until last Tuesday. This might sound like a contradiction since I'm the guy who termed him a "four million dollar douche bag" but he was far from that in his short time here,he was actually everything the FO said he'd be up until that point.......I think we can all agree. LR's referral woulda been good for me too,the guy's the real deal IMO. He and Foligno are also close,Richardson helped the rookie quite a bit in Ottawa way back in '08-09',Richardson's last season. I was really just hoping for something more benign like a blow-up with a team official,it's hard to imagine a 38yro,with 20 years in the league and 8 in his marriage having an indiscretion at this point in his career. Can the young GM say what it's not and call the conduct "disgusting" without explanation? Correy Perry has a very possible HoF career and reputation to protect,it'll be interesting to see when,how and even IF he does. I thought "disgusting" was the term Davidson used to describe the rumors, not Perry's conduct. |
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Post by vadarx on Nov 29, 2023 15:34:09 GMT -6
Let's not forget the strong endorsement from Richardson who praised Perry with how he worked with younger players while in Montreal. Sure he was disliked by many for his antics on the ice, but never saw any signs off the ice that would now have his contract terminated. Davidson used the term disgusting in his presser, think this is more than telling someone in the front office to take a hike due to a potential trade. He was referring to the rumor of CP sleeping with CB's mom. He considered that stupid rumor as disgusting. indeed. I have fans of other teams on other sites INSISTING that it happened. 100% certain. it is absolutely ridiculous. |
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Post by Hockey is great on Nov 29, 2023 15:41:15 GMT -6
Servelli reporting it was an alcohol fueled incident nov 17th in Nashville. At a event with team sponsors and team employees.
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Post by Nikos on Nov 29, 2023 15:49:53 GMT -6
Let's not forget the strong endorsement from Richardson who praised Perry with how he worked with younger players while in Montreal. Sure he was disliked by many for his antics on the ice, but never saw any signs off the ice that would now have his contract terminated. Davidson used the term disgusting in his presser, think this is more than telling someone in the front office to take a hike due to a potential trade. He was referring to the rumor of CP sleeping with CB's mom. He considered that stupid rumor as disgusting. Yes, you are correct the term disgusting was towards the crazy speculation and rumors, however he did make the comment that what has transpired over the past 24 hours was disturbing and he was definitely shaken with his answer to the question. My point is whatever happened was likely not telling someone in the front office to take a hike based on a potential trade. |
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Post by BigT on Nov 29, 2023 17:25:46 GMT -6
Servelli reporting it was an alcohol fueled incident nov 17th in Nashville. At an event with team sponsors and team employees. I just hope the Hawks aren’t looking for every reason to sewer someone over every little thing. No, I’m not saying this was little. But it better have been bad to terminate him. Cuz no one will want to sign in Chicago if they’re uptight about everything. Who would want their career ruined over something small like joking around? I’ve heard a few things. They’re very close to what’s being reported. So let’s hope it’s something big to warrant this punishment!!! |
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Post by Hockey is great on Nov 29, 2023 19:24:18 GMT -6
Servelli reporting it was an alcohol fueled incident nov 17th in Nashville. At an event with team sponsors and team employees. I just hope the Hawks aren’t looking for every reason to sewer someone over every little thing. No, I’m not saying this was little. But it better have been bad to terminate him. Cuz no one will want to sign in Chicago if they’re uptight about everything. Who would want their career ruined over something small like joking around? I’ve heard a few things. They’re very close to what’s being reported. So let’s hope it’s something big to warrant this punishment!!! agreed |
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 29, 2023 20:18:31 GMT -6
Beginning to think when they said about alcohol and sponsors.
Wonder if there was a meet and greet and CP got drunk and insulted someone.
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