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Post by vadarx on Nov 28, 2023 16:53:58 GMT -6
So if before Perry took off his Hawks jersey for the last time, Luke ripped the A from his jersey, I'm curious if Perry's jersey now has an "A" hole in it? You should moonlight as a writer for late night TV. I get more chuckles from your groaners than from any of those late night guys. indeed. you may have missed your calling, Phil!
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Post by phill9 on Nov 28, 2023 16:56:29 GMT -6
So if before Perry took off his Hawks jersey for the last time, Luke ripped the A from his jersey, I'm curious if Perry's jersey now has an "A" hole in it? You should moonlight as a writer for late night TV. I get more chuckles from your groaners than from any of those late night guys. What's the old saying? A warped mind is a terrible thing to waste?
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Post by tincup on Nov 28, 2023 16:58:04 GMT -6
I made a few texts to buddies who know Perry. My neighbor next door knows him. He said it may be they took the boys out to a strip club and snuck em in. It more than likely was in Tampa. But we don’t know yet. So Charlie may be right. We’ll have to wait and see. If Perry’s wife files for divorce. Than it’s all 100% true. Or any mom on the team!!! I hope it’s “just” a strip club and maybe as additionally stupid as getting the kid a couple of beers. Please be no more than CP being foolish on that level. Funny thing. They’ll be in Alberta in a couple of weeks. They can legally drink and go to any strip bar they want. Mature enough up here, immature down there. Although they’d be extremely foolish to be seen out in the public like that. Any hockey fan would know those faces here.
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Post by hsbob on Nov 28, 2023 17:09:54 GMT -6
Also - now that more has come out, Hawks mgmt did do the right thing and it was their decision to suspend him and they took the time to make sure they didn’t fire off something before they were damn sure of the facts. Could have been done sooner and a little more transparent but you are correct! I will eat my words on the FAIL. As the saying goes they knew what he was when they picked him up. I'll go along with this,there wasn't much they could say until the investigation was done. It is over now though and all we get at the presser is 'unacceptable behavior' and we hear "can't elaborate" any further.....further. I won't pretend to be a Katy Parry fan,as a matter of fact I referred to him as a 'four million dollar douche bag' but he was brought-in to help mentor the most valuable,young asset in all of sports and seemed to be doing just that,playing well and staying away from the D-bag stuff to my surprise. The guy is a long tenured vet though and I recall no off-ice problems in his past,his reputation,ability to make a living and the lion's share of four million bucks are all in peril at the moment.........I expect to hear more from somebody soon! I haven't mentioned any rumor and I won't give it the time of day myself,I do believe the GM when he said "no player or player's family was involved" but I just don't see how something serious enough to terminate a sizable contract can be kept secret. How could a team execute a waiver claim on the guy w/o knowing what this serious, unacceptable behavior was? YOU GUYS SHOULD SEE THE 'SHIT' ON OTHER MB's.........LOFL!!!!!!!
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Post by phill9 on Nov 28, 2023 17:10:49 GMT -6
So if before Perry took off his Hawks jersey for the last time, Luke ripped the A from his jersey, I'm curious if Perry's jersey now has an "A" hole in it? Thinking about this.....every time Perry put the jersey on there was an A hole in it!
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Post by jacksalmon on Nov 28, 2023 17:16:44 GMT -6
ok....i am so glad to see this. If this is true, then who cares what Perry did? I am happy with knowing he supposedly did something that breached his contract in the opinion of the Hawks. There are far more things to worry about than what he did. As said, who cares? He be gone for doing something and that is good enough for me. As for the waiver situation, it appears that the Hawks are currently not telling the world what he did to justify the termination of his contract. I guess if some team wants to claim him off waivers, it will be up to Perry to determine whether he is ok with the Hawks telling interested teams why they terminated him. They don't have to, but if Perry wants to ever play again this year, he might want to roll the dice and give the Hawks the ok to let other teams know what he did. I guess it is possible that some team would take a chance on him without knowing what he did, but that would be up to Perry and his new suitor whether they want to play it that way. The Hawks have terminated his contract and will not have to pay him a dime unless he challenges the reason for the termination in some league sponsored proceedings or in a public legal action. He can be picked up on waivers either without the new team getting the lowdown on why he was let go; or after getting the info and determining that for their taste, it is not bad enough to decide not to pick him up on waivers.
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Post by Hockey is great on Nov 28, 2023 17:19:48 GMT -6
Go figure a internet rumor is false
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Post by phill9 on Nov 28, 2023 17:25:42 GMT -6
In the end, this does reflect horribly bad on Davidson. He wanted to bring in Perry for character and an experienced vet presence. Yet he wanted nothing to do with Toews returning to lead by example. I can't pass this off as a young GM mistake.
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 28, 2023 17:38:39 GMT -6
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Post by ukhawk on Nov 28, 2023 17:45:00 GMT -6
Watching the video of KD giving the press conference he looks physically shaken when he says 'he's wearing it'. I like the guy and think he has done well, I hope this doesn't go against all the good work he has done.
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Post by shooter61 on Nov 28, 2023 17:53:57 GMT -6
Gt I'm not getting any context in your posts
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Post by mikeveisor on Nov 28, 2023 18:01:15 GMT -6
In the end, this does reflect horribly bad on Davidson. He wanted to bring in Perry for character and an experienced vet. Yet he wanted nothing to do with Toews returning to lead by example. I can't pass this off as a young GM mistake. I think "horribly bad" is a little reaching based on what we do know at the moment (this will all leak eventually, probably in a civil suit). Ultimately - KD swung and he missed like a corkscrew whiff by Babe Ruth on a player and the the guy he missed on apparently acted far out of the character that everyone (Luke and who else?) assured him that CP had. That's what I see until we find out there was a "report" that KD ignored while pursuing Perry. If this becomes a pattern, then THAT will be horribly bad. KD's likely quickly learned 2 valuable lessons that all GMs do in time - nothing is guaranteed and expect the unexpected. How is that for 2x trite cliches in one sentence? I think KD will ultimately be judged by Danny and most of us by the results on the ice and whether Perry was to be here the whole season or not, he's gone now and I do not see the organization's efforts at getting 6x rookies, and then the others coming, acclimated to the rigors of the NHL being seriously impacted (impacted, yes, for the missed out on-ice example we all wanted) by this. They were never going to be a playoff contender nor surprise and Perry was in town for 2 months or so? Hell, this may hasten the learning curve for CB and the other kids - "this is what happens if you..." probably has a suddenly recognizable feel teaching these young pros that they (and their teammates) all need to be ready to deal with locker room sh-t whether they are 18, 29, or 36 years old. JMO.
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 28, 2023 18:02:17 GMT -6
Gt I'm not getting any context in your posts you're quoting a tweet i posted by cap friendly. do you mean to say that my post appears blank to you?
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Post by mikeveisor on Nov 28, 2023 18:04:08 GMT -6
Gt I'm not getting any context in your posts I think it would be "this is what happens when you..." - but would this mean that CP has already collected $2.5M of that $4M contract? That would be odd unless it's the contract's structure.
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 28, 2023 18:06:27 GMT -6
ok....i am so glad to see this. If this is true, then who cares what Perry did? who cares what he did? i do for one. 99% of my being thought the story of sleeping with bedard's mother was preposterous but that other 1% was nagging at me. what if... all i'm saying is i'm glad we can put that stupid rumor to bed and move on.
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Post by higgyhawk on Nov 28, 2023 18:08:13 GMT -6
I can put my hate back on for Corey Perry
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Post by jacksalmon on Nov 28, 2023 18:17:36 GMT -6
If he had a $4 M contract and we are only 20 some percent thru the season, how does he not lose more than $1.4M, if he does nothing to challenge the Hawk action. I would think that with 70 some percent more the season left, he would be walking away from about $3M not $1.4M. Why am I wrong about this?
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Post by jacksalmon on Nov 28, 2023 18:19:31 GMT -6
If this is true, then who cares what Perry did? who cares what he did? i do for one. 99% of my being thought the story of sleeping with bedard's mother was preposterous but that other 1% was nagging at me. what if... all i'm saying is i'm glad we can put that stupid rumor to bed and move on. Are you saying that even if he didn't sleep with B's momma, you still care about what he might have done to justify the contract termination?
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 28, 2023 18:24:45 GMT -6
who cares what he did? i do for one. 99% of my being thought the story of sleeping with bedard's mother was preposterous but that other 1% was nagging at me. what if... all i'm saying is i'm glad we can put that stupid rumor to bed and move on. Are you saying that even if he didn't sleep with B's momma, you still care about what he might have done to justify the contract termination? i can't really answer that until i know what it is he did. i'm just happy for now that (according to KD) it didn't affect other players or their families.
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Post by mvr on Nov 28, 2023 18:34:32 GMT -6
A 38-year-old man typically does not suddenly develop "bad character" habits which lead to a contract termination.
In all probability, he has been doing much the same thing for years while employed for several organizations.
This leads to the question - Why did the Hawks take action when the other teams perhaps did not?
Did the Hawks discover something the other organizations did not know about? Was Hawks management less tolerant of behaviour that other teams put up with? Are the Hawks more sensitive to potential public relations nightmares because of the team's recent unsavory history? Would Perry have been terminated if he was not playing in Chicago? Should Davidson and staff take some ownership in not researching this player more carefully before paying out the contract? We know the General Manager considered Toews and Kane as obstacles preventing his young players from growing up. Obviously, Perry was considered (too late) a problem as well.
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Post by squishy24 on Nov 28, 2023 18:46:49 GMT -6
So, are the Hawks still reaching the capfloor? or do they need to being in new player/s to reach it?
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Post by jacksalmon on Nov 28, 2023 19:00:07 GMT -6
Are you saying that even if he didn't sleep with B's momma, you still care about what he might have done to justify the contract termination? i can't really answer that until i know what it is he did. i'm just happy for now that (according to KD) it didn't affect other players or their families. I totally agree with your second sentence. As to your first sentence, you can't have it both ways. Since apparently we aren't going to get the info on what he did, it seems one has to either be satisfied not knowing; or be upset that it isn't revealed. When I said I didn't really care what he did, I was referring to the situation where I wasn't get to find out what happened, so I had to be satisfied not knowing and simply put the whole issue aside; or end up not caring what happened. In reality, it will all be forgotten about in a couple of weeks.
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 28, 2023 19:02:39 GMT -6
So who will replace his net-front presence and douchbaggery?
Entwistle? Ketchup? R. Johnson?
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Post by jacksalmon on Nov 28, 2023 19:03:47 GMT -6
A 38-year-old man typically does not suddenly develop "bad character" habits which lead to a contract termination. In all probability, he has been doing much the same thing for years while employed for several organizations. This leads to the question - Why did the Hawks take action when the other teams perhaps did not? Did the Hawks discover something the other organizations did not know about? Was Hawks management less tolerant of behaviour that other teams put up with? Are the Hawks more sensitive to potential public relations nightmares because of the team's recent unsavory history? Would Perry have been terminated if he was not playing in Chicago? Should Davidson and staff take some ownership in not researching this player more carefully before paying out the contract? We know the General Manager considered Toews and Kane as obstacles preventing his young players from growing up. Obviously, Perry was considered (too late) a problem as well. Corey Perry had already developed bad character during his entire career. He was a cheap shot artist, which is bad character, in my opinion. What is a cheap shot artist? It is a player who tries to hurt other players in sneaky ways so he doesn't get penalized, or fined; or someone who always runs away from the accounting when another player comes around seeking revenge for the harm done to his teammate.
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Post by phill9 on Nov 28, 2023 19:42:14 GMT -6
Now the big question:
Will the Hawks retire #94 and lower it to the "crap"ters to try and get rid of the stench of his ill ustrious Hawks career?
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Post by LordKOTL on Nov 28, 2023 19:52:54 GMT -6
Now the big question: Will the Hawks retire #94 and lower it to the "crap"ters to try and get rid of the stench of his ill ustrious Hawks career? Nah. Seabrook removed Chelios' stench. We just need a good 94.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 28, 2023 20:17:57 GMT -6
So who will replace his net-front presence and douchbaggery? Entwistle? Ketchup? R. Johnson? Katchouk, nice to see him score in back to back games.
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Post by tincup on Nov 28, 2023 20:26:30 GMT -6
Gt I'm not getting any context in your posts If you’re just getting a blank screen turn your VPN off. I get zero tweets when mine is on
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Post by phill9 on Nov 28, 2023 20:37:49 GMT -6
Gt I'm not getting any context in your posts If you’re just getting a blank screen turn your VPN off. I get zero tweets when mine is on Are they still called tweets? I thought the birds were X'd out?
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Post by tincup on Nov 28, 2023 21:00:55 GMT -6
If you’re just getting a blank screen turn your VPN off. I get zero tweets when mine is on Are they still called tweets? I thought the birds were X'd out? Old habits I guess. Just sounds right.
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