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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 24, 2023 15:38:42 GMT -6
USA Schedule Dec. 26: vs. Norway – 10 a.m. Dec. 28: vs. Switzerland – 10 a.m. Dec. 29: vs. Czechia – 10 a.m. Dec. 31: vs. Slovakia – 5 a.m. The rest of the tourney schedule here. www.iihf.com/en/events/2024/wm20 |
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 24, 2023 15:40:20 GMT -6
The game with the Slovaks will have 6 Hawks prospects.
4 USA and 2 On Slovakia's.
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Post by jacksalmon on Dec 24, 2023 19:24:12 GMT -6
The game with the Slovaks will have 6 Hawks prospects. 4 USA and 2 On Slovakia's. Who are the six? Are there any other Hawk prospects on other squads? If so, who and on which team(s)? |
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Post by galaxytrash on Dec 24, 2023 20:06:04 GMT -6
The game with the Slovaks will have 6 Hawks prospects. 4 USA and 2 On Slovakia's. Who are the six? Are there any other Hawk prospects on other squads? If so, who and on which team(s)? frank nazar, oliver moore, sam rinzel and gavin hayes for the u.s. team and adam gajan and martin misiak for slovakia. it was discussed further in the last couple pages if the "in the system/prospects" thread in hawk talk if you want a look. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 24, 2023 20:55:50 GMT -6
The game with the Slovaks will have 6 Hawks prospects. 4 USA and 2 On Slovakia's. Who are the six? Are there any other Hawk prospects on other squads? If so, who and on which team(s)? The names we got are from the Hawks site. The IIHF doesn't have all the rosters for all the teams yet posted. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Dec 24, 2023 23:43:38 GMT -6
Who are the six? Are there any other Hawk prospects on other squads? If so, who and on which team(s)? frank nazar, oliver moore, sam rinzel and gavin hayes for the u.s. team and adam gajan and martin misiak for slovakia. it was discussed further in the last couple pages if the "in the system/prospects" thread in hawk talk if you want a look. Thanks, GT, I saw the info about Moore, Nazar and the others, but I didn't see anywhere that it was indicated whether there any Hawk draft picks other than those six. Are there? I was glad top see the praise heaped upon Moore and Nazar for being playmakers and puck carriers. That is what I really miss from this team. There are no puck carriers, not even Bedard on a regular basis. I like seeing some guy grab the puck and skate up ice and deep into the d zone with it to get some play started, like Denis Savard used to do. It just doesn't happen anymore around here. Hopefully, Moore and Nazar can get that started again. |
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Post by Nikos on Dec 25, 2023 7:05:43 GMT -6
frank nazar, oliver moore, sam rinzel and gavin hayes for the u.s. team and adam gajan and martin misiak for slovakia. it was discussed further in the last couple pages if the "in the system/prospects" thread in hawk talk if you want a look. Thanks, GT, I saw the info about Moore, Nazar and the others, but I didn't see anywhere that it was indicated whether there any Hawk draft picks other than those six. Are there? I was glad top see the praise heaped upon Moore and Nazar for being playmakers and puck carriers. That is what I really miss from this team. There are no puck carriers, not even Bedard on a regular basis. I like seeing some guy grab the puck and skate up ice and deep into the d zone with it to get some play started, like Denis Savard used to do. It just doesn't happen anymore around here. Hopefully, Moore and Nazar can get that started again. Six total 4 US and 2 from last draft Misiak and Gajan both representing Slovakia 🇸🇰 |
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Post by Hockey is great on Dec 25, 2023 7:37:11 GMT -6
Looking forward to the world juniors
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Post by Hockey is great on Dec 25, 2023 12:28:32 GMT -6
Does anyone think that all of the hawks guys on the rosters will play regularly
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 25, 2023 13:38:08 GMT -6
Does anyone think that all of the hawks guys on the rosters will play regularly From the little I've seen of possible lineups, most of the American guys will be 3rd/4th liners. |
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Post by Hockey is great on Dec 25, 2023 13:41:00 GMT -6
Does anyone think that all of the hawks guys on the rosters will play regularly From the little I've seen of possible lineups, most of the American guys will be 3rd/4th liners. thanks |
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 26, 2023 9:02:03 GMT -6
Good game so far Canada vs Finland.
2-1 Canada after 2
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 26, 2023 10:09:29 GMT -6
USA vs Norway now under way.
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Post by tincup on Dec 26, 2023 14:26:21 GMT -6
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Post by tincup on Dec 26, 2023 14:28:06 GMT -6
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Post by jacksalmon on Dec 26, 2023 16:29:41 GMT -6
Nazar got one assist for the US in its 4-1 win over Norway.
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Post by tincup on Dec 26, 2023 16:37:55 GMT -6
Nazar got one assist for the US in its 4-1 win over Norway. Moore was obviously the 13th forward getting less than 5 minutes of ice and 7 shifts. Hayes had the second lowest TOI with 9:25 and a dozen shifts. Hopefully they see more time as the tournament progresses. |
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Post by Hockey is great on Dec 26, 2023 18:33:03 GMT -6
How’d the boys look today?
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Post by jacksalmon on Dec 26, 2023 20:27:18 GMT -6
Nazar got one assist for the US in its 4-1 win over Norway. Moore was obviously the 13th forward getting less than 5 minutes of ice and 7 shifts. Hayes had the second lowest TOI with 9:25 and a dozen shifts. Hopefully they see more time as the tournament progresses. Perhaps Moore and Hayes are not highly thought of by the US coaching staff. Any info on that? |
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Post by galaxytrash on Dec 26, 2023 20:33:47 GMT -6
Moore was obviously the 13th forward getting less than 5 minutes of ice and 7 shifts. Hayes had the second lowest TOI with 9:25 and a dozen shifts. Hopefully they see more time as the tournament progresses. Perhaps Moore and Hayes are not highly thought of by the US coaching staff. Any info on that? it's the opening game against one of the weak sisters of the tournament. you may be right, but imho it's a bit early to draw that conclusion. |
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Post by tincup on Dec 26, 2023 20:37:00 GMT -6
Moore was obviously the 13th forward getting less than 5 minutes of ice and 7 shifts. Hayes had the second lowest TOI with 9:25 and a dozen shifts. Hopefully they see more time as the tournament progresses. Perhaps Moore and Hayes are not highly thought of by the US coaching staff. Any info on that? They made the team and that’s pretty exclusive as is. I might be mistaken but I think the only ‘05 drafted players besides Moore chosen were the big line of Smith, Leonard and Perrault and they were definitely going to play together. I think you have to be highly thought of just to make the team. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Dec 27, 2023 1:42:51 GMT -6
Moore was obviously the 13th forward getting less than 5 minutes of ice and 7 shifts. Hayes had the second lowest TOI with 9:25 and a dozen shifts. Hopefully they see more time as the tournament progresses. Perhaps Moore and Hayes are not highly thought of by the US coaching staff. Any info on that? Moore is 18 and Nazar is playing his first full season in college. They're on the bottom 6 but they looked better than most of the forwards. There was a lot of turnovers by the Americans but Moore, Nazar, and even Hayes didn't make any glaring mistakes and they all looked good. Nazar took some hits to make plays but bounced up quickly and played hard at both ends. He looks really solid out there and probably has the best odds of making the Hawks next season. Hayes is a smart player and reads the game well, he had a couple really good chances because he goes to the net, he hit the post on a redirect in front. He was also paired with Moore on the PK and did really well together. When the TSN guys were talking about the speed of Norway giving USA problems Moore dumped it in and flew around a couple dmen and got the puck, he's really fast and works hard. He's more of a playmaker because of his speed and passing but he also has a heavy shot. The guy that impressed me the most is Rinzel, I didn't see any problems in his own end, he's really good at using his speed and size to either hit or poke pucks away, plus he's good at clearing the crease. They said he's 6'4" and only in the 170s but those were his draft year numbers, he looks like he's much thicker now and he's very solid on his feet. |
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Post by mikeveisor on Dec 27, 2023 8:31:22 GMT -6
<< The guy that impressed me the most is Rinzel, I didn't see any problems in his own end, he's really good at using his speed and size to either hit or poke pucks away, plus he's good at clearing the crease. They said he's 6'4" and only in the 170s but those were his draft year numbers, he looks like he's much thicker now and he's very solid on his feet.>>
His goal in the Canada prelim game, I did not expect to see another Hawk prospect that appeared head and shoulders taller than his linemates. If the Hawks do successfully develop their D-prospects, this group may make us rethink Keith/Seabs/Hammer/Oduya as the best 1-2-3-4 punch we’ve collectively (IMO) seen.
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Post by tincup on Dec 27, 2023 9:41:48 GMT -6
Shut out for Gajan…
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Post by jacksalmon on Dec 27, 2023 11:00:45 GMT -6
Perhaps Moore and Hayes are not highly thought of by the US coaching staff. Any info on that? it's the opening game against one of the weak sisters of the tournament. you may be right, but imho it's a bit early to draw that conclusion. I am not right, or wrong, here as I was not saying they are not highly thought of by the staff. I was merely wondering if their lack of playing time was explained by that. I have no idea, which is why I asked if there was any info out there as to whether it might be true. For all I know, they might be the best the US has to offer and they were limited in their playing time to await their coming out party when an offensive explosion will occur. The only reason I even bother to inquire/comment about them is because they are touted by many here as two of the many who will propel the Hawks from ground hugging tankers to high flying machines. I am looking to their performances as juniors to get some indication of how well they will succeed as NHLers when they get to that status, which seems inevitable seeing as how they are the prima donnas of the Hawk rebuild after Bedard. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Dec 27, 2023 11:02:32 GMT -6
Perhaps Moore and Hayes are not highly thought of by the US coaching staff. Any info on that? They made the team and that’s pretty exclusive as is. I might be mistaken but I think the only ‘05 drafted players besides Moore chosen were the big line of Smith, Leonard and Perrault and they were definitely going to play together. I think you have to be highly thought of just to make the team. What do you mean by "'05 drafted players"? I can't figure that one out. It can't mean the year in which they were drafted. Is it the year in which they were born? |
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Post by jacksalmon on Dec 27, 2023 11:04:18 GMT -6
Perhaps Moore and Hayes are not highly thought of by the US coaching staff. Any info on that? Moore is 18 and Nazar is playing his first full season in college. They're on the bottom 6 but they looked better than most of the forwards. There was a lot of turnovers by the Americans but Moore, Nazar, and even Hayes didn't make any glaring mistakes and they all looked good. Nazar took some hits to make plays but bounced up quickly and played hard at both ends. He looks really solid out there and probably has the best odds of making the Hawks next season. Hayes is a smart player and reads the game well, he had a couple really good chances because he goes to the net, he hit the post on a redirect in front. He was also paired with Moore on the PK and did really well together. When the TSN guys were talking about the speed of Norway giving USA problems Moore dumped it in and flew around a couple dmen and got the puck, he's really fast and works hard. He's more of a playmaker because of his speed and passing but he also has a heavy shot. The guy that impressed me the most is Rinzel, I didn't see any problems in his own end, he's really good at using his speed and size to either hit or poke pucks away, plus he's good at clearing the crease. They said he's 6'4" and only in the 170s but those were his draft year numbers, he looks like he's much thicker now and he's very solid on his feet. Thanks for those assessments of those three guys. As you know, they represent the future of this franchise, so they better get rave reviews, if the Hawks are to have any hope of climbing out of the basement. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Dec 27, 2023 11:07:50 GMT -6
Perhaps Moore and Hayes are not highly thought of by the US coaching staff. Any info on that? Moore is 18 and Nazar is playing his first full season in college. They're on the bottom 6 but they looked better than most of the forwards. There was a lot of turnovers by the Americans but Moore, Nazar, and even Hayes didn't make any glaring mistakes and they all looked good. Nazar took some hits to make plays but bounced up quickly and played hard at both ends. He looks really solid out there and probably has the best odds of making the Hawks next season. Hayes is a smart player and reads the game well, he had a couple really good chances because he goes to the net, he hit the post on a redirect in front. He was also paired with Moore on the PK and did really well together. When the TSN guys were talking about the speed of Norway giving USA problems Moore dumped it in and flew around a couple dmen and got the puck, he's really fast and works hard. He's more of a playmaker because of his speed and passing but he also has a heavy shot. The guy that impressed me the most is Rinzel, I didn't see any problems in his own end, he's really good at using his speed and size to either hit or poke pucks away, plus he's good at clearing the crease. They said he's 6'4" and only in the 170s but those were his draft year numbers, he looks like he's much thicker now and he's very solid on his feet. Is Rinzel a Hawk draftee that is playing for the Czechs along with Gajan? If not, for which team does Rinzel play and is he a Hawk draftee? I have enough trouble keeping up with the Hawk roster shifting between Chicago and Rockford, let alone figuring out which youngsters are draftees and for whom they are playing? For example, if Gajan and Rinzel are both Hawk draftees for whom are they playing when not involved in the World Juniors? |
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 27, 2023 11:40:21 GMT -6
Moore is 18 and Nazar is playing his first full season in college. They're on the bottom 6 but they looked better than most of the forwards. There was a lot of turnovers by the Americans but Moore, Nazar, and even Hayes didn't make any glaring mistakes and they all looked good. Nazar took some hits to make plays but bounced up quickly and played hard at both ends. He looks really solid out there and probably has the best odds of making the Hawks next season. Hayes is a smart player and reads the game well, he had a couple really good chances because he goes to the net, he hit the post on a redirect in front. He was also paired with Moore on the PK and did really well together. When the TSN guys were talking about the speed of Norway giving USA problems Moore dumped it in and flew around a couple dmen and got the puck, he's really fast and works hard. He's more of a playmaker because of his speed and passing but he also has a heavy shot. The guy that impressed me the most is Rinzel, I didn't see any problems in his own end, he's really good at using his speed and size to either hit or poke pucks away, plus he's good at clearing the crease. They said he's 6'4" and only in the 170s but those were his draft year numbers, he looks like he's much thicker now and he's very solid on his feet. Is Rinzel a Hawk draftee that is playing for the Czechs along with Gajan? If not, for which team does Rinzel play and is he a Hawk draftee? I have enough trouble keeping up with the Hawk roster shifting between Chicago and Rockford, let alone figuring out which youngsters are draftees and for whom they are playing? For example, if Gajan and Rinzel are both Hawk draftees for whom are they playing when not involved in the World Juniors? Gajan is the goalie for the Green Bay Gamblers of the USHL |
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Post by tincup on Dec 27, 2023 11:50:10 GMT -6
They made the team and that’s pretty exclusive as is. I might be mistaken but I think the only ‘05 drafted players besides Moore chosen were the big line of Smith, Leonard and Perrault and they were definitely going to play together. I think you have to be highly thought of just to make the team. What do you mean by "'05 drafted players"? I can't figure that one out. It can't mean the year in which they were drafted. Is it the year in which they were born? Born |
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