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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 21, 2024 10:59:03 GMT -6
Thanks, I like the iso on Spellacy. And Murphy collided with Dach and was slow to get up, I wouldn't be surprised if he's hurt already. Murphy or Dach? Both
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Post by galaxytrash on Sept 21, 2024 18:12:35 GMT -6
looked like murph caught an elbow from dach. powers added later that he figured murph was alright.
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Post by galaxytrash on Sept 21, 2024 19:14:29 GMT -6
a few odds and ends...
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 22, 2024 11:22:00 GMT -6
The D pairings at camp on Friday were
Jones-Martinez Crevier-Korchinski Brodie-Vlasic Murphy-Kaiser
Didn't hear who Del Mastro, Allan, and Phillips were with.
So of course some writers think Korchinski being with Crevier means he'll start in Rockford, I disagree. Looks like they're putting defensive dmen with guys they wanna see produce offensively.
Vlasic said he worked on his shot and he wants to improve his offense, can't do that with Seth.
It also sounds like Phillips is looking really good so far, gonna make things tough for the coaches, I like it.
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Post by tincup on Sept 22, 2024 12:39:03 GMT -6
The D pairings at camp on Friday were Jones-Martinez Crevier-Korchinski Brodie-Vlasic Murphy-Kaiser Didn't hear who Del Mastro, Allan, and Phillips were with. So of course some writers think Korchinski being with Crevier means he'll start in Rockford, I disagree. Looks like they're putting defensive dmen with guys they wanna see produce offensively. Vlasic said he worked on his shot and he wants to improve his offense, can't do that with Seth. It also sounds like Phillips is looking really good so far, gonna make things tough for the coaches, I like it. Interesting that Richardson mentioned the unheralded Crevier in his presser with a Brandon Carlo comparison. Although I don't think the big guy grabs that seventh spot it seems like Luke has a soft spot for big stay at home shutdown guys.
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Post by ebonyraptor on Sept 23, 2024 16:10:30 GMT -6
Here are the lines and d-pairs from practice today:
Hall-Bedard-Bertuzzi Reichel-Kurashev-Teräväinen Foligno-Dickinson-Mikheyev Maroon-Athanasiou-Smith Donato-Spellacy-Anderson Dach-Nazar-Lardis Savoie-Ludwinski-Hayes
Martinez-Jones Vlasic-Brodie Kaiser-Murphy Korchinski-Crevier Allan-Del Mastro Strand-Phillips
With the 1st preseason game on Wednesday – which lines and pairs play in Game-1 against Detroit? I’m going to guess it will be a combo of “no-doubters” and “long shots”.
Hall-Bedard-Bertuzzi Dach-Nazar-Lardis Foligno-Dickinson-Mikheyev Savoie-Ludwinski-Hayes
Vlasic-Brodie Kaiser-Murphy Strand-Phillips
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Post by BigT on Sept 23, 2024 17:00:19 GMT -6
Gotta think a couple of moves are coming. If not. I’d say all kids will be in Rockford. There’s just too many players. Look at the forwards. Hall, Bedard, Bert, TT, Reichel, Shevy, Foligno, Dicky, Mikheyev, Maroon, Smith, Donato, AA, Anderson. That’s 14 forwards. There’s no room for any kid at all. Which is shitty if you ask me.
Now on D you’ve got, Seth, Vlasic, TJ, Murphy, Martinez, Korchinski, EDM, Phillips, Kaiser.
At least a couple of kids will get the nod. I think that’s ok. But on forward, there’s no room at all. I don’t get signig the litany of guys they did!!!
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Post by vadarx on Sept 23, 2024 17:05:33 GMT -6
Gotta think a couple of moves are coming. If not. I’d say all kids will be in Rockford. There’s just too many players. Look at the forwards. Hall, Bedard, Bert, TT, Reichel, Shevy, Foligno, Dicky, Mikheyev, Maroon, Smith, Donato, AA, Anderson. That’s 14 forwards. There’s no room for any kid at all. Which is shitty if you ask me. Now on D you’ve got, Seth, Vlasic, TJ, Murphy, Martinez, Korchinski, EDM, Phillips, Kaiser. At least a couple of kids will get the nod. I think that’s ok. But on forward, there’s no room at all. I don’t get signig the litany of guys they did!!! rest assured that one or three of those vets will get dinged during the season and a couple young guns will get their shot.
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Post by BigT on Sept 23, 2024 17:20:35 GMT -6
Gotta think a couple of moves are coming. If not. I’d say all kids will be in Rockford. There’s just too many players. Look at the forwards. Hall, Bedard, Bert, TT, Reichel, Shevy, Foligno, Dicky, Mikheyev, Maroon, Smith, Donato, AA, Anderson. That’s 14 forwards. There’s no room for any kid at all. Which is shitty if you ask me. Now on D you’ve got, Seth, Vlasic, TJ, Murphy, Martinez, Korchinski, EDM, Phillips, Kaiser. At least a couple of kids will get the nod. I think that’s ok. But on forward, there’s no room at all. I don’t get signig the litany of guys they did!!! rest assured that one or three of those vets will get dinged during the season and a couple young guns will get their shot. Even if 2 forwards get injured, they still have no need to call anyone up. They’re nightly roster will have 12F 7D and 2G. I don’t see much help needed in way of kids. I guess the plan is to start like this, and trade a couple out near the deadline and injuries too. My best guess is Anderson gets nabbed off of waivers. I believe they’ll waive him. And I believe Donato will be traded with Maroon and Smith. But I don’t see that till February!!!
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Post by steamer on Sept 23, 2024 18:37:35 GMT -6
It is a crowded forward group but most of the young ones could benefit from a year in Rockford and playing lots of minutes together
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Post by galaxytrash on Sept 23, 2024 22:32:53 GMT -6
pretty quiet day. just 2 odds and 1 end.
let's play a real game already. seems every year we're one of the last teams to open up their exhibition schedule...at least it feels that way.
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Post by Tater on Sept 24, 2024 2:31:42 GMT -6
let's play a real game already. seems every year we're one of the last teams to open up their exhibition schedule...at least it feels that way.
Man, it sure does.
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Post by ebonyraptor on Sept 24, 2024 10:35:40 GMT -6
Projected preseason lineup for Wednesday: Teravainen-Bedard-Bertuzzi Hall-Nazar-Lardis Donato-Spellacy-Smith Savoie-Ludwinski-Anderson
Martinez-Jones Vlasic-Brodie Korchinski-Murphy
Mrazek Weeks
Really excited to see the Hall-Nazar-Lardis line.
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Post by tincup on Sept 24, 2024 11:04:00 GMT -6
Projected preseason lineup for Wednesday: Teravainen-Bedard-Bertuzzi Hall-Nazar-Lardis Donato-Spellacy-Smith Savoie-Ludwinski-Anderson Martinez-Jones Vlasic-Brodie Korchinski-Murphy Mrazek Weeks Really excited to see the Hall-Nazar-Lardis line. Interesting that Teuvo gets elevated when Hall was in that spot for most of camp so far. But I like Nazar and Lardis getting a look together.
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Post by galaxytrash on Sept 24, 2024 11:31:08 GMT -6
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 24, 2024 16:42:52 GMT -6
Projected preseason lineup for Wednesday: Teravainen-Bedard-Bertuzzi Hall-Nazar-Lardis Donato-Spellacy-Smith Savoie-Ludwinski-Anderson Martinez-Jones Vlasic-Brodie Korchinski-Murphy Mrazek Weeks Really excited to see the Hall-Nazar-Lardis line. That second line is very fast, it'll be interesting to see a kid like Lardis or Nazar earn a spot. Most likely Nazar because Lardis should go back to juniors to play with Vanacker. And when asked about Misiak, Luke said it's because his season's starting and they know he's not ready yet. But the 18yr old Spellacy is still here. Luke really likes this kid and said he's a quick learner and wants him playing center and hopes his junior team does the same. I like that he's putting him at 3C. On D it's encouraging that Korchinski is with Murph on the 3rd pair, or 2B.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 24, 2024 16:48:52 GMT -6
I like how Luke tried things in scrimmages but now has Teravainen and Bedard together, with Bertuzzi buzzing around.
Hall seems better suited on the second line, especially with a speedy playmaker like Nazar.
KD might be forced to make trades sooner than he anticipated.
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Post by bigbarn27 on Sept 24, 2024 18:15:36 GMT -6
Projected preseason lineup for Wednesday: Teravainen-Bedard-Bertuzzi Hall-Nazar-Lardis Donato-Spellacy-Smith Savoie-Ludwinski-Anderson Martinez-Jones Vlasic-Brodie Korchinski-Murphy Mrazek Weeks Really excited to see the Hall-Nazar-Lardis line. Its a home game so this line up makes sense! Gotta figure those are opening day Dmen. like all forward lines love seeing Lud and SS playing together. starting to get excited!!!
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Post by galaxytrash on Sept 27, 2024 17:49:27 GMT -6
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Post by T-man2010 on Sept 27, 2024 19:50:38 GMT -6
Is he going to hit the net?
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Sept 28, 2024 10:21:02 GMT -6
Hawks did a second round of cuts, 8 players.
Lardis is back to juniors, Hayes, Ludwinski, Luypen, Marcel, King, Strand, and Gaudreau are going to Rockford.
Nice to see Spellacy still here, he'll go back to juniors but he's showing a lot of upside.
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Post by BigT on Sept 29, 2024 6:42:58 GMT -6
Hawks did a second round of cuts, 8 players. Lardis is back to juniors, Hayes, Ludwinski, Luypen, Marcel, King, Strand, and Gaudreau are going to Rockford. Nice to see Spellacy still here, he'll go back to juniors but he's showing a lot of upside. It sounds like they’re using Spellacy as a leveling stick. If they wanna make it, do what this kid does. AJ has to come back soon as he’s not even finished high school. Sure legally he’s 18 and can quit, but I don’t think that looks great on anyone. I know the Hawks aren’t keeping him. And if they did, they’d get him the schooling there. Anyways. Good to see the kid progressing. I had a chat with my friends dad last night at the game, Spits won 12-2. He had mentioned that Spellacy had a leg injury last year. He said the same exact thing I have been saying. I’ll ask Bowler (Spits GM) next time I see him to confirm!!!
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Post by mvr on Sept 29, 2024 6:50:13 GMT -6
It will be interesting to see how management handles the starting roster this year.
Is it better for young prospects like Slaggert, Dach, and Nazar to start in the AHL? I believe so. The top 13 at forward looks pretty much set, which means there is not going to be ice time for a kid. There is no real need to keep a second substitute, and there is no value to having a kid watch games from the stands.
The bigger questions are on the defence. Is Murphy completely healthy? How many games will Martinez and Brodie really be able to play? For depth purposes, it might be best to start the season with both Philips and Crevier with the big club. I certainly don't want to lose either to waivers.
Del Mastro and Allan are both close but likely will be starting the season in the AHL. The only real battle here seems to be between Kaiser and Korchinski for that last defenceman spot.
It is possible and perhaps likely the Hawks go with eight defencemen to start. If so, Joey Anderson is vulnerable to lose his spot, though I strongly suspect he'd pass through waivers.
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Post by mvr on Sept 29, 2024 7:00:14 GMT -6
The best approach might actually be to stash Kaiser and Korchinski in Rockford and start the season with Philips and Crevier as the sixth and seventh.
There will be opportunities to call up both players as injury replacements. My suspicion is that Martinez or Murphy and perhaps Brodie as well will not make it past the trade deadline.
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Post by BigT on Sept 29, 2024 7:25:22 GMT -6
The best approach might actually be to stash Kaiser and Korchinski in Rockford and start the season with Philips and Crevier as the sixth and seventh. There will be opportunities to call up both players as injury replacements. My suspicion is that Martinez or Murphy and perhaps Brodie as well will not make it past the trade deadline. TJ told me that he has a full NTC. That’s what took so long to sign. He said in the morning he signed with the Hawks. So I thought it was a done deal. I said it on here and then many many hours passed and nothing was said. So the hold up was the clauses they were negotiating. Also, his dad died right before the beginning of last season and he was pretty beat up. He doesn’t really care for Treliving. And last season was a cluster. I believe he’ll be a solid top 4 here. He’s really good. I also don’t believe a lot of guys will be dealt. I think the obvious guys will be like C Smith, Maroon and probably Martinez. And then kids will start to get the nod. I think Arty gets called up once Murphy is injured again. I don’t think his body holds up to a full NHL season. But I agree with what you say about the forwards. I think it was set in July. These kids will start in Rockford!!!
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Post by galaxytrash on Sept 29, 2024 7:41:05 GMT -6
The best approach might actually be to stash Kaiser and Korchinski in Rockford and start the season with Philips and Crevier as the sixth and seventh. There will be opportunities to call up both players as injury replacements. My suspicion is that Martinez or Murphy and perhaps Brodie as well will not make it past the trade deadline. TJ told me that he has a full NTC. That’s what took so long to sign. He said in the morning he signed with the Hawks. So I thought it was a done deal. I said it on here and then many many hours passed and nothing was said. So the hold up was the clauses they were negotiating. Shit. I didn't know brodie had any clauses wrote into his contract.
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Post by vadarx on Sept 29, 2024 7:46:50 GMT -6
The best approach might actually be to stash Kaiser and Korchinski in Rockford and start the season with Philips and Crevier as the sixth and seventh. There will be opportunities to call up both players as injury replacements. My suspicion is that Martinez or Murphy and perhaps Brodie as well will not make it past the trade deadline. TJ told me that he has a full NTC. That’s what took so long to sign. He said in the morning he signed with the Hawks. So I thought it was a done deal. I said it on here and then many many hours passed and nothing was said. So the hold up was the clauses they were negotiating. Also, his dad died right before the beginning of last season and he was pretty beat up. He doesn’t really care for Treliving. And last season was a cluster. I believe he’ll be a solid top 4 here. He’s really good. I also don’t believe a lot of guys will be dealt. I think the obvious guys will be like C Smith, Maroon and probably Martinez. And then kids will start to get the nod. I think Arty gets called up once Murphy is injured again. I don’t think his body holds up to a full NHL season. But I agree with what you say about the forwards. I think it was set in July. These kids will start in Rockford!!! agree that Murph is almost certain to get injured, but I don't think it'll be Dewey who gets the first call, or the second.
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Post by vadarx on Sept 29, 2024 7:49:32 GMT -6
TJ told me that he has a full NTC. That’s what took so long to sign. He said in the morning he signed with the Hawks. So I thought it was a done deal. I said it on here and then many many hours passed and nothing was said. So the hold up was the clauses they were negotiating. Shit. I didn't know brodie had any clauses wrote into his contract. I don't see one anywhere for him either of the salary cap sites. sees odd.
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Post by mvr on Sept 29, 2024 8:35:06 GMT -6
At issue to my mind are the three older defence prospects.
Phillips and Crevrier have extensive AHL experience, and they are both close. Kaiser is likely ready. These are the guys I'd be willing to expose to NHL prime time right now. Let's see what they can do this year. Leave the others alone.
This team is not a contender. It's not likely to be much more than a mediocre team. My feeling is that the coaching staff should take full advantage of the defence depth to slow down the development approach and give the better prospects real time to grow their games.
There has been far too much turnover and chaos around the team for the better part of a decade. A full uninterrupted year in the AHL will not hurt Allan, Del Mastro, Korchinski and Levshunov. These four, (along with Rinzel, Vlasic and Jones) should be the team's defence by 2027. Rockford could be very good this year if management chooses to make the development team the real focus.
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Post by bigbarn27 on Sept 29, 2024 9:26:54 GMT -6
It will be interesting to see how management handles the starting roster this year. Is it better for young prospects like Slaggert, Dach, and Nazar to start in the AHL? I believe so. The top 13 at forward looks pretty much set, which means there is not going to be ice time for a kid. There is no real need to keep a second substitute, and there is no value to having a kid watch games from the stands. The bigger questions are on the defence. Is Murphy completely healthy? How many games will Martinez and Brodie really be able to play? For depth purposes, it might be best to start the season with both Philips and Crevier with the big club. I certainly don't want to lose either to waivers. Del Mastro and Allan are both close but likely will be starting the season in the AHL. The only real battle here seems to be between Kaiser and Korchinski for that last defenceman spot. It is possible and perhaps likely the Hawks go with eight defencemen to start. If so, Joey Anderson is vulnerable to lose his spot, though I strongly suspect he'd pass through waivers. Creature is still wavier exempt if I am not mistaken
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