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Post by davebrau on Apr 27, 2020 15:52:16 GMT -6
Interesting...
now Bowman??
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Post by T-man2010 on Apr 27, 2020 15:58:56 GMT -6
Thank you McD. He did bring this team back to relevance during his tenure. It was real bad there from 97ish to 05-06.And we could see we were heading down that road again. Now hire the Hunter bros. to be President and GM/Coach.  |
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Post by vadarx on Apr 27, 2020 16:04:49 GMT -6
wuuuuuttttt?
OH MY GOD, did Rocky finally decide to get involved with the hockey team again?!?
keep the good news coming, Rockwell!!!
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Post by LordKOTL on Apr 27, 2020 16:05:59 GMT -6
Interesting...
now Bowman??
My guess is Bowman is promoted out of GM. On one hand McDonut did a hell of a lot to market the 'hawks...but it did spill over into shenanigans. |
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Post by vadarx on Apr 27, 2020 16:06:22 GMT -6
yeah, to echo tman, thanks for all ya did Mr McDonough. good luck to ya in future endeavors.
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Post by vadarx on Apr 27, 2020 16:07:27 GMT -6
Interesting...
now Bowman??
My guess is Bowman is promoted out of GM. On one hand McDonut did a hell of a lot to market the 'hawks...but it did spill over into shenanigans. I was wondering about this as well.... if they promote him to team president, I will be certain he has nudes of Rocky or something along those lines.... |
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Post by T-man2010 on Apr 27, 2020 16:22:30 GMT -6
Interesting...
now Bowman??
On one hand McDonut did a hell of a lot to market the 'hawks...but it did spill over into shenanigans. He is also GM/SeniorVP of the team. I've said before they leave him as Senior VP and get a real GM. |
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Post by jimakablkhwks918 on Apr 27, 2020 16:32:03 GMT -6
In terms of marketing the Hawks, he was excellent at maximizing positive exposure of the Hawks at the perfect time when the team was peaking on the ice.
Not the right guy for a team that needed a real hockey mind at the position when the team was no longer "turn-key."
Wish him well in the future, but a sorely needed move. Hopefully Bowman is also let go and not promoted.
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Post by BigT on Apr 27, 2020 17:16:14 GMT -6
Bowman’s next!!!
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Post by tincup on Apr 27, 2020 17:46:40 GMT -6
Interesting...
now Bowman??
My guess is Bowman is promoted out of GM. On one hand McDonut did a hell of a lot to market the 'hawks...but it did spill over into shenanigans. I suspect you’re right. Like Edmonton did with Lowe, too loyal and tenured to just outright get rid of, no matter what the fan base thought or wanted. So they’ll remove him somewhat from daily hockey operations. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 18:10:54 GMT -6
They're making Danny Wirtz interim president. Hopefully that means they'll look outside the organization and whoever they hire cleans house with Bowman and Colliton both following McDonough out the door.
Beginning of a new era hopefully about to start!
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 27, 2020 18:38:03 GMT -6
They're making Danny Wirtz interim president. Hopefully that means they'll look outside the organization and whoever they hire cleans house with Bowman and Colliton both following McDonough out the door. Beginning of a new era hopefully about to start! no idea why they'd need an "interim president" but whatever. no biggie. i'd say almost surely the writing is on the wall for stan. they need someone with actual hockey knowledge to pick his successor. mcdonough's marketing/business acumen won't help him with this. so whoever they pick i hope it's a hockey guy. i mentioned ed olczyk's name before here somewhere. just a feeling, nothing more but he's chicago born and bred like mcdonough was. someone mentioned the hunter brothers, that'd be fine by me as well. colliton's likely gone as well but that'll be the decision for stan's replacement. regardless, i see this as a step forward for the organization even if it was a few seasons late. it'll be a lot easier being a doormat for the next 2 or 3 years with new management that has a plan. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 27, 2020 18:51:59 GMT -6
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Post by jacksalmon on Apr 27, 2020 19:28:24 GMT -6
Don't know why they would fir McDonough and leave Bowman. Maybe the new prez will get to pick his own GM and then it is adios to Stan as GM, but he can stay as Senior VP whatever that is.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Apr 27, 2020 19:41:39 GMT -6
Don't know why they would fir McDonough and leave Bowman. Maybe the new prez will get to pick his own GM and then it is adios to Stan as GM, but he can stay as Senior VP whatever that is. So they can say it was the new presidents idea. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Apr 27, 2020 20:09:23 GMT -6
They're making Danny Wirtz interim president. Hopefully that means they'll look outside the organization and whoever they hire cleans house with Bowman and Colliton both following McDonough out the door. Beginning of a new era hopefully about to start! Sounds like it. I like how Rocky mentioned the fans a couple times during his announcement, maybe he is listening. Attachments:
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 27, 2020 20:31:26 GMT -6
idk why teams don't have 2 presidents.
one in charge of marketing and the other in charge of actual hockey ops. (maybe some do?)
it seems we were sorely lacking real "hockey minds" in this teams upper management.
maybe i'm over simplifying here, but it seems a shame to ax mcdonough in order to fire bowman.
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Post by LordKOTL on Apr 27, 2020 21:09:20 GMT -6
idk why teams don't have 2 presidents. one in charge of marketing and the other in charge of actual hockey ops. (maybe some do?) it seems we were sorely lacking real "hockey minds" in this teams upper management. maybe i'm over simplifying here, but it seems a shame to ax mcdonough in order to fire bowman. In my opinion if John "Rudy Russo" McDonough had his hands in the hockey ops side of things to stroke his ego then he 100% should have been let go. He's a hype man and that's it. That being said I agree with the hockey minds angle. We are missing it. IMHO it's not a shame to fire him. |
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Post by LordKOTL on Apr 27, 2020 21:12:35 GMT -6
My guess is Bowman is promoted out of GM.On one hand McDonut did a hell of a lot to market the 'hawks...but it did spill over into shenanigans. He is also GM/SeniorVP of the team. I've said before they leave him as Senior VP and get a real GM. I'll rephrase then. Bowman is demoted up the ladder to full time Senior VP and relieved of his duties as a GM. Kinda like when Steve Walkom was demoted to head of officiating after he botched the call for game 7 2013 when Saad was hauled down to the ice. Ideally he would have been promoted to head peep show booth cleaner since he's one of the worst to ever officiate the game, but since it's an old boys club that wasn't happening. Ditto for Stan. |
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Post by hsbob on Apr 27, 2020 21:23:46 GMT -6
Everybody in the FO was safe five weeks ago,we haven't played since and McD goes.....strange shit! Does Scotty have Rocky's ear to the extent that SB outlasted his boss or was Scotty the boss all along?
If guys like Q and McD got an unceremonious boot then why the fuk should any job be created for SB.....SB's the F'n problem!
FIRED THE WRONG GUY.....AGAIN!
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Apr 27, 2020 22:31:51 GMT -6
Everybody in the FO was safe five weeks ago,we haven't played since and McD goes.....strange shit! Does Scotty have Rocky's ear to the extent that SB outlasted his boss or was Scotty the boss all along? If guys like Q and McD got an unceremonious boot then why the fuk should any job be created for SB.....SB's the F'n problem! FIRED THE WRONG GUY.....AGAIN! I noticed Hawks media were asking the fans what they wanted to see happen, maybe Rocky kept hearing fire Bowman and McD so he fired John to put a guy in place to find his own gm 🤞 After Dollar Bill died Rocky knew the fans wanted local games on TV and a winning team, he put the right guys in place at that time and it worked, after a few down years and this stoppage maybe he realized he had to revamp the front office, start at the top. |
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Post by vadarx on Apr 27, 2020 22:41:41 GMT -6
Everybody in the FO was safe five weeks ago,we haven't played since and McD goes.....strange shit! Does Scotty have Rocky's ear to the extent that SB outlasted his boss or was Scotty the boss all along? If guys like Q and McD got an unceremonious boot then why the fuk should any job be created for SB.....SB's the F'n problem! FIRED THE WRONG GUY.....AGAIN! too early to say, imo. I think Bowman and JC are only safe until the season is officially over. once that happens, I'd say it would be more likely one or both is gone. really is odd timing, but I'll take it. I wonder what the reasoning is? money saving move? a disagreement on how things are going? we will likely never know, but I honestly hope it is hockey performance related. McCub needed to go so Bowman could go and some hockey minds could be brought in. not even worried about the coaching situation right now, cuz if Bowman is gone, JC will be carrying both of their bags to the car.... |
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Post by vadarx on Apr 27, 2020 22:43:02 GMT -6
Everybody in the FO was safe five weeks ago,we haven't played since and McD goes.....strange shit! Does Scotty have Rocky's ear to the extent that SB outlasted his boss or was Scotty the boss all along? If guys like Q and McD got an unceremonious boot then why the fuk should any job be created for SB.....SB's the F'n problem! FIRED THE WRONG GUY.....AGAIN! I noticed Hawks media were asking the fans what they wanted to see happen, maybe Rocky kept hearing fire Bowman and McD so he fired John to put a guy in place to find his own gm 🤞 After Dollar Bill died Rocky knew the fans wanted local games on TV and a winning team, he put the right guys in place at that time and it worked, after a few down years and this stoppage maybe he realized he had to revamp the front office, start at the top. I hope this is the case. |
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Post by tincup on Apr 27, 2020 23:39:03 GMT -6
That article pretty much explained what McDonough’s been doing for better than the last decade, making the Hawks relevant again.And he was good at it. But was he really the guy working the product on the ice? I’d rather see the Bowman/McIssac/McIver trio gone. And I’d be surprised if the Wirtz boy finds a body more worthy than himself. Looks like dad just handed him a billion dollar business. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 28, 2020 0:03:06 GMT -6
That article pretty much explained what McDonough’s been doing for better than the last decade, making the Hawks relevant again.And he was good at it. But was he really the guy working the product on the ice? I’d rather see the Bowman/McIssac/McIver trio gone. And I’d be surprised if the Wirtz boy finds a body more worthy than himself. Looks like dad just handed him a billion dollar business. they really do need a hockey mind in the president's chair. i hope you're wrong about daniel wirtz but he's already the vice president so maybe there's some nepotism in play here? i hope not. it's really important the hawks make a good decision here so more good decisions can follow. |
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Post by Tater on Apr 28, 2020 0:12:36 GMT -6
they really do need a hockey mind in the president's chair. i hope you're wrong about daniel wirtz but he's already the vice president so maybe there's some nepotism in play here? i hope not. it's really important the hawks make a good decision here so more good decisions can follow.Most definitely. Hopefully it means a new GM and coach too.
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Post by vadarx on Apr 28, 2020 0:54:48 GMT -6
That article pretty much explained what McDonough’s been doing for better than the last decade, making the Hawks relevant again.And he was good at it. But was he really the guy working the product on the ice? I’d rather see the Bowman/McIssac/McIver trio gone. And I’d be surprised if the Wirtz boy finds a body more worthy than himself. Looks like dad just handed him a billion dollar business. yeah, I expect Wirtz will end up in that role. and I don't have a problem with it. hopefully he has been paying attention to McDonough and he knows what to do (promotion and the like) and what not to do (put a bean counter in as GM cuz his dad was a great coach). I don't know that we need a prez with a ton of hockey experience as much as we need one that realizes we need a general manager that does. |
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Post by tincup on Apr 28, 2020 1:08:28 GMT -6
That article pretty much explained what McDonough’s been doing for better than the last decade, making the Hawks relevant again.And he was good at it. But was he really the guy working the product on the ice? I’d rather see the Bowman/McIssac/McIver trio gone. And I’d be surprised if the Wirtz boy finds a body more worthy than himself. Looks like dad just handed him a billion dollar business. they really do need a hockey mind in the president's chair. i hope you're wrong about daniel wirtz but he's already the vice president so maybe there's some nepotism in play here? i hope not. it's really important the hawks make a good decision here so more good decisions can follow. To me the president is a big picture guy. He has a vision and he needs to hire the correct personnel to make that vision happen. He delegates down and those people who report to him better get results. The business model for the Hawks, any sports team is simple, put a winning product on the field, ice, whatever, and then reap all the benefits that a successful franchise brings. It’s a business for the owners after all. I’d say McDonough did that for the most part. The Hawks were brought back from oblivion and are now among the top tier of teams in the league. But now the people in charge of keeping the product competitive are faltering, they’re the ones who need to be skidded. |
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Post by Tater on Apr 28, 2020 1:28:19 GMT -6
Impossible I know, but I'd love to find out how much input McD had on roster decisions, trades, too many small Dmen, soft team, drafting...
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 28, 2020 2:09:44 GMT -6
yeah, I expect Wirtz will end up in that role. and I don't have a problem with it. hopefully he has been paying attention to McDonough and he knows what to do (promotion and the like) and what not to do (put a bean counter in as GM cuz his dad was a great coach). I don't know that we need a prez with a ton of hockey experience as much as we need one that realizes we need a general manager that does. help me out here because i might be missing something. when stan's canned, who hires the new g.m.? rocky? daniel? blunk? our senior advisor team made up entirely of 86 year old scotty bowman? and your last sentence...how does a prez with no hockey knowledge hire a g.m. that has? not trying to be snarky here but you're basically agreeing it's okay for another bean counter to fire the current bean counter and then hire a non-bean counter that hopefully knows wtf he's doing. : ) i really think we should've had our own version of a john davidson, paul holmgren or brendan shanahan in the VP's chair ready to step in, not young daniel. edit: did a quick count of current presidents in the nhl. currently winnipeg and ottawa are without, so out of the 28 other teams 17 of them have "sports executives" or bean counters running the show and the other 11 teams have either ex-players, coaches or g.m.s in charge. so wtf do i know, but i still think those decisions should be left to the hockey people. who would fill that bill in chicago? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:NHL_team_presidents |
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