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Post by hawks27 on Jul 4, 2020 13:40:45 GMT -6
Canada didn't flatten the curve.....they crushed it! Even in the big cities......our stock market's goin' up with the virus counts though so everything's okay here!LOL! I guess you’ll have lots of money to blow your nose with! I hope things work out over in the States. I feel bad for the ones doing the heavy lifting and the others are pissing it all away. We’ve been pretty good here. A vast majority of people followed everything to a tee. Our numbers dropped off significantly and it was no longer a public health disaster. We still have orders to wear a mask in public buildings and to sanitize our hands. If wearing a mask in public is what it takes to totally crush this thing, count me in. It’s not like they’re drafting you to war, the public these days is totally stubborn and not s more worried about themselves and not the ones around them. I seen a few people at the grocery store today that just wouldn’t wear a mask. Some good people let em have it, and rightfully so. I wish you fine folk in the states the best of luck with this. I have a trip to Virginia and one up in Michigan planned. I doubt they’re happening now. But that’s nothing compared to the health and welfare of the good people there. Happy 4th!!! Thanks for the comments, T. My view (as a US citizen) is that a lot of us are just lacking the self-discipline to do what is needed to get this thing under control. I almost want to puke when I see the people protesting that "their constitutional rights are being violated," by having to wear a mask. People just need to read up on history to see what happened when medical directions were not followed. An example would be of the thousands of Mandan Indians that used to live right in the area where I am presently, only about 30 families survived the small pox epidemic in the early 1800's. They were warned not to come to the fort on the Missouri River, or to hang around outside of it, but they laughed it off and pretty much did as they liked, not concerned of the consequences that may follow. The results were devastating.
The comment that "those who fail to learn from history, are bound fail in the future" seems applicable today in the US.
Having been in sports most of my life of 73 years (player and coach), and having served in the US Air Force 1969-73, I will always remember a comment from my basic training drill instructor. When giving us his orientation briefing on our first day in camp, he said something to the effect that "you will be learning discipline while you are here, the more self-discipline you have, the less discipline you will have to receive from us instructors." It made a lot of sense then, and also does now. It boils down to doing what is right and what is needed to achieve a goal. If you aren't willing to do it on your own, then someone has to direct you so that you do it. (There are a lot of similarities to training for sports and training for war.)
I am so pleased that Canada is doing well with this pandemic. One of our nieces in Montreal has recovered from it and is still on the mend, but at least is out of the hospital and at home. I only hope that the US can get our act together on this and do what is needed to finally get through it. Patience and self discipline will go a long way to achieving that end goal.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 4, 2020 16:55:56 GMT -6
btw.....happy 4th of july to my american brothers and sisters.
better times ahead soon i hope.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 4, 2020 20:31:30 GMT -6
pretty dumb/irresponsible if it's true.
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Post by nighbor on Jul 5, 2020 0:38:33 GMT -6
I was reading that Seabrook is considering playing this season if it restarts.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 5, 2020 18:34:52 GMT -6
whoa.
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Post by BigT on Jul 5, 2020 20:31:44 GMT -6
From what I hear and have read. The players really don’t wanna do this. I’m sure there’s many that do, but I think there’s a quiet majority not wanting to. I agree with the players, this seems like it’s peddling the game to people too much. Not many will watch this as the weather is now great and no one wants to inside watching a weird version of hockey. It’s been 93-95F here, or 32-34C. Not many in my area are staying in. Plus the games will be at horrible times to fit them all in!!! |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 5, 2020 21:00:17 GMT -6
From what I hear and have read. The players really don’t wanna do this. I’m sure there’s many that do, but I think there’s a quiet majority not wanting to. well....if they're a majority i'll agree they've been incredibly quiet. don't forget....the NHLPA is a labor union. if the majority of the players felt that strongly about it i'm sure they would voice there concerns to their team reps. maybe they still will....who knows? but if it was going to happen i think it would have happened by now. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 5, 2020 21:25:25 GMT -6
well...if players are that uneasy about it the league is giving them an out.
it will be interesting to see how many players drop out (if it gets that far).
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Post by BigT on Jul 5, 2020 21:47:14 GMT -6
From what I hear and have read. The players really don’t wanna do this. I’m sure there’s many that do, but I think there’s a quiet majority not wanting to. well....if they're a majority i'll agree they've been incredibly quiet. don't forget....the NHLPA is a labor union. if the majority of the players felt that strongly about it i'm sure they would voice there concerns to their team reps. maybe they still will....who knows? but if it was going to happen i think it would have happened by now. From what I was told, they received their final paychecks, and that was basically the agreement that they’ll do this. I know someone who’s a UFA, he didn’t want to take the final paychecks due to not wanting to play. He said most of his teammates didn’t want to play in this thing. He said that he didn’t want to take his last cheque’s so that he could walk into UFA and not owe them anything or have to risk injury for this. He said all UFAs had the same concerns and Taylor Hall especially doesn’t want to do this. But the NHLPA signed off on it and kind a said it’s the way she goes. So we’ll see. I think most players won’t say sht if their mouth was full of it. That’s why they’re a silent majority. We’ve seen what happens when players speak up. That’s why I feel it’s awesome of players to speak out against abuse or racism etc. They can be blackballed in a western minute!!! |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 5, 2020 23:39:09 GMT -6
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Post by Tater on Jul 6, 2020 0:03:05 GMT -6
Great article. It explains it all.
I could see why some players wouldn't want to deal with all that. |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 6, 2020 1:50:29 GMT -6
in regards to the players wanting/not wanting to play, my understanding is that thus far, the player reps of each team have done the voting for everything, which would mean each consulted with their teammates and the majority said yes. however, there are more than a few players that want each individual to be able to vote on the upcoming finalization so that everyone's voice can be heard, which I think is the right thing to do.
as far as players participating or not, given the way hockey players are generally brought up (you play unless you are dead or dying) I will be interested to see how many, if any, choose not to play. I will be surprised if more than just a few players decide to sit it out and I am also interested to see how those players are received afterwards by the hockey community.
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Post by vadarx on Jul 6, 2020 1:52:00 GMT -6
I'll also add that having to get the brain tickler every day should be something the nhlpa demands compensation for in the next cba, cuz that shit sucks!
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 6, 2020 4:11:31 GMT -6
Great article. It explains it all.
I could see why some players wouldn't want to deal with all that. i saw today where if things proceed as planned, the longest that a player would be apart from his family would be 5 weeks. not such a big deal considering they've had almost 4 months together since the regular season ended. and these guys get millions to play a game they love. that'd be like me getting millions to drink beer and fish. a little inconvenience to the players really doesn't concern me all that much. it's for their own good anyways. |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 6, 2020 5:02:28 GMT -6
Great article. It explains it all.
I could see why some players wouldn't want to deal with all that. i saw today where if things proceed as planned, the longest that a player would be apart from his family would be 5 weeks. not such a big deal considering they've had almost 4 months together since the regular season ended. and these guys get millions to play a game they love. that'd be like me getting millions to drink beer and fish. a little inconvenience to the players really doesn't concern me all that much. it's for their own good anyways. I dunno, man. not being able to see your kids for over a month (plus longer if you make the Finals, cuz who is gonna bring their kids into that situation) seems like something a lot of the guys with kiddos wouldn't be too keen on. that's a bunch longer than even the longest road trip. also, I haven't seen anything about it, but me thinks not many of the single guys are gonna be too thrilled about having to handle things manually for a month either. I mean, I (mostly) remember my 20s..... no wayyyyyy was I going a week without gettin some, let alone a month. just sayin 😜 |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 6, 2020 6:05:00 GMT -6
i saw today where if things proceed as planned, the longest that a player would be apart from his family would be 5 weeks. not such a big deal considering they've had almost 4 months together since the regular season ended. and these guys get millions to play a game they love. that'd be like me getting millions to drink beer and fish. a little inconvenience to the players really doesn't concern me all that much. it's for their own good anyways. I dunno, man. not being able to see your kids for over a month (plus longer if you make the Finals, cuz who is gonna bring their kids into that situation) seems like something a lot of the guys with kiddos wouldn't be too keen on. that's a bunch longer than even the longest road trip. also, I haven't seen anything about it, but me thinks not many of the single guys are gonna be too thrilled about having to handle things manually for a month either. I mean, I (mostly) remember my 20s..... no wayyyyyy was I going a week without gettin some, let alone a month. just sayin 😜 well, i don't have kids but about the last 25 years of my working life it was entirely either 4 weeks on/4 weeks off or 5 on/5 off (often times longer) so my mindset might be a bit different than most. i know for a fact it didn't kill me or the married guys with kids either. and as far as the younger single guys...you do what you gotta' do. i can say for a fact that didn't kill me either. : ) |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 6, 2020 6:46:11 GMT -6
I dunno, man. not being able to see your kids for over a month (plus longer if you make the Finals, cuz who is gonna bring their kids into that situation) seems like something a lot of the guys with kiddos wouldn't be too keen on. that's a bunch longer than even the longest road trip. also, I haven't seen anything about it, but me thinks not many of the single guys are gonna be too thrilled about having to handle things manually for a month either. I mean, I (mostly) remember my 20s..... no wayyyyyy was I going a week without gettin some, let alone a month. just sayin 😜 well, i don't have kids but about the last 25 years of my working life it was entirely either 4 weeks on/4 weeks off or 5 on/5 off (often times longer) so my mindset might be a bit different than most. i know for a fact it didn't kill me or the married guys with kids either. and as far as the younger single guys...you do what you gotta' do. i can say for a fact that didn't kill me either. : ) lol, I gotcha man. I know it certainly won't kill them either. just thinking aloud about things here that might bother the boys. I'll add that now that I've thought about it, I dunno how well I'd do now going for more than a week either..... it was about to that point last week and I woke up after working a few days and was just in a shittttt mood. all kinds of a dick with the gf. thought initially it was just being tired.... then it dawned on me..... I was in a much better mood shortly thereafter. 🥴 |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 6, 2020 8:01:27 GMT -6
i saw today where if things proceed as planned, the longest that a player would be apart from his family would be 5 weeks. not such a big deal considering they've had almost 4 months together since the regular season ended. and these guys get millions to play a game they love. that'd be like me getting millions to drink beer and fish. a little inconvenience to the players really doesn't concern me all that much. it's for their own good anyways. I dunno, man. not being able to see your kids for over a month (plus longer if you make the Finals, cuz who is gonna bring their kids into that situation) seems like something a lot of the guys with kiddos wouldn't be too keen on. that's a bunch longer than even the longest road trip. also, I haven't seen anything about it, but me thinks not many of the single guys are gonna be too thrilled about having to handle things manually for a month either. I mean, I (mostly) remember my 20s..... no wayyyyyy was I going a week without gettin some, let alone a month. just sayin 😜 I though the article made provisions for wives/significant others and kids,all will be able to "join the NHL's bubble" and be "allowed to stay in the same hotel room as the player". You could still handle things manually though and you'd have the family there for moral support!LOL! |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 6, 2020 8:30:30 GMT -6
There are quite a few thought's rolling around the old cranium after reading all the input here and elsewhere of course,this has to be the most interesting situation I've seen in my many years and by a large margin and I've seen some shit! There are just so many issues at play here,including the one v and gt have been sharing with us!LOL! I worked with an Amishman when I was in the harness racing biz and he used to say "when I was young and in my prime,I used to beat off all the time but now that I'm old and my beard is gray,I only beat off once a day" and that's all I have to say about that!LOFL! The preparations and precautions seem thorough enough and the hub cities and providences have done a great job with the virus so far. If the testing and quarantining goes as planned,players,officials,families and all the rest will show up clean and should remain that way. I'm sure the ability to survive the virus if contracted by the many young,healthy players is a factor but there's still this unfortunate ending to a story I been following this morning so who knows.... www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nick-cordero-nominated-for-tony-as-tap-dancing-tough-guy-dies-at-41/ar-BB16mTPt?ocid=spartan-dhp-feedsI do like the idea of having the stability of the CBA agreement that goes with the agreement to return to be honest but I don't like the rumors of no buy-outs included this time. Will I stay inside to watch hockey if it's 93-95? TOO DAM HOT OUTSIDE FOR ME AT THAT POINT! |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 6, 2020 13:18:54 GMT -6
I dunno, man. not being able to see your kids for over a month (plus longer if you make the Finals, cuz who is gonna bring their kids into that situation) seems like something a lot of the guys with kiddos wouldn't be too keen on. that's a bunch longer than even the longest road trip. also, I haven't seen anything about it, but me thinks not many of the single guys are gonna be too thrilled about having to handle things manually for a month either. I mean, I (mostly) remember my 20s..... no wayyyyyy was I going a week without gettin some, let alone a month. just sayin 😜 I though the article made provisions for wives/significant others and kids,all will be able to "join the NHL's bubble" and be "allowed to stay in the same hotel room as the player". You could still handle things manually though and you'd have the family there for moral support!LOL! they will be allowed if the player makes it to the conference finals. so for the first 2 rounds, nada. also, I noted in the article that the conference finals and Finals will be played in Edmonton, so that question has finally been answered for me. |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 6, 2020 13:24:56 GMT -6
There are quite a few thought's rolling around the old cranium after reading all the input here and elsewhere of course,this has to be the most interesting situation I've seen in my many years and by a large margin and I've seen some shit! There are just so many issues at play here,including the one v and gt have been sharing with us!LOL! I worked with an Amishman when I was in the harness racing biz and he used to say "when I was young and in my prime,I used to beat off all the time but now that I'm old and my beard is gray,I only beat off once a day" and that's all I have to say about that!LOFL! The preparations and precautions seem thorough enough and the hub cities and providences have done a great job with the virus so far. If the testing and quarantining goes as planned,players,officials,families and all the rest will show up clean and should remain that way. I'm sure the ability to survive the virus if contracted by the many young,healthy players is a factor but there's still this unfortunate ending to a story I been following this morning so who knows.... www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nick-cordero-nominated-for-tony-as-tap-dancing-tough-guy-dies-at-41/ar-BB16mTPt?ocid=spartan-dhp-feedsI do like the idea of having the stability of the CBA agreement that goes with the agreement to return to be honest but I don't like the rumors of no buy-outs included this time. Will I stay inside to watch hockey if it's 93-95? TOO DAM HOT OUTSIDE FOR ME AT THAT POINT! chances are better than fair that any player that might contract the virus will not die. the thing I would be worried about if I were a player would be the possibility of it ending my career. most people do not die from it, but for there is a percentage of people that it does long term damage to their lungs and that would pretty well end any athletes career. I am with ya on the lack of compliance buyouts being worrisome. considering where the cap is going to be for the next few years, I am honestly surprised that it isn't being included. there are going to be a bunch of teams strapped for cash for a while now, it seems like that would be something that would be desirable for most teams. I hope one ends up being included in the new CBA. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 6, 2020 18:16:26 GMT -6
Kubalik might not be able to play because his working visa expired this June 🙄 this shouldn't even be an issue, especially because work was stopped because of a pandemic and he would've had a new contract if it wasn't stopped. So his working visa should be extended till the season is officially over. Not having a hard working 30 goal scorer will be a huge loss. happy to see this today. it would've been a real kick in the gonads to lose someone as important as kubalik to something as silly as a visa issue. Jonathan Toews and Dominik Kubalik, second and third in team scoring at the season's pause, have joined the large group of Blackhawks skating in voluntary sessions at Fifth Third Arena during Phase 2 of the NHL's Return to Play plan. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 7, 2020 6:23:14 GMT -6
Kubalik might not be able to play because his working visa expired this June 🙄 this shouldn't even be an issue, especially because work was stopped because of a pandemic and he would've had a new contract if it wasn't stopped. So his working visa should be extended till the season is officially over. Not having a hard working 30 goal scorer will be a huge loss. happy to see this today. it would've been a real kick in the gonads to lose someone as important as kubalik to something as silly as a visa issue. Jonathan Toews and Dominik Kubalik, second and third in team scoring at the season's pause, have joined the large group of Blackhawks skating in voluntary sessions at Fifth Third Arena during Phase 2 of the NHL's Return to Play plan.That's great news, definitely would've been a kick their if he couldn't play. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 7, 2020 7:51:46 GMT -6
That's great news, definitely would've been a kick their if he couldn't play. what! another avatar OTH? oh my gawd. what is that....#7? 6? 8? not my business....but i would like you to decide on 1 avatar....and i'd prefer about 15-20% hot pink if you could. : ) come on....i'm not albertan by birth but i've spent more time there than my home province and i know you albertans aren't indecisive. |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 7, 2020 8:14:02 GMT -6
JT and Kubalik were money together and they were right from the start. I remember reading an article saying Kubalik had 6 goals when he joined JT around Dec 1st and I'd bet JT's assist total at the time wasn't anything to write home about either,Kubalik burried chance after chance and three were some sweet dishes comin' his way,JT's assist total was on track to surpass his career high from last year. These two will need a player on their off wing come the Oil series and I'd still scare the shit out of em with JT,Kubalik and Kane...….at least right off the bat and occasionally afterward too.
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Post by hsbob on Jul 7, 2020 8:20:28 GMT -6
That's great news, definitely would've been a kick their if he couldn't play. what! another avatar OTH? oh my gawd. what is that....#7? 6? 8? not my business....but i would like you to decide on 1 avatar....and i'd prefer about 15-20% hot pink if you could. : ) come on....i'm not albertan by birth but i've spent more time there than my home province and i know you albertans aren't indecisive. If he changes it again,somethin' with a little T&A would be nice!LOL! You back to slingin' Thai hash yet? |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 7, 2020 8:59:09 GMT -6
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Post by T-man2010 on Jul 7, 2020 9:35:03 GMT -6
what! another avatar OTH? oh my gawd. what is that....#7? 6? 8? not my business....but i would like you to decide on 1 avatar....and i'd prefer about 15-20% hot pink if you could. : ) come on....i'm not albertan by birth but i've spent more time there than my home province and i know you albertans aren't indecisive. If he changes it again,somethin' with a little T&A would be nice!LOL! You back to slingin' Thai hash yet?  This needs to be an avatar. |
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Post by Tater on Jul 7, 2020 12:23:54 GMT -6
It sounds like the expanded roster help at forward coming from Rockford is still named Dylan Sikura and we've seen this failed experiment before...….
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Post by vadarx on Jul 7, 2020 15:51:10 GMT -6
If he changes it again,somethin' with a little T&A would be nice!LOL! You back to slingin' Thai hash yet? This needs to be an avatar. annnndddddd an upvote for you, sir |
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