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Post by hawks27 on Jul 13, 2020 16:12:32 GMT -6
Just read some disturbing news on NHL.com site. They have a headline stating "Blackhawks rule Crawford 'unfit to play'." They said Corey did not practice with the team today. I hope he doesn't have the virus.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 13, 2020 16:21:12 GMT -6
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 13, 2020 16:25:48 GMT -6
Just read some disturbing news on NHL.com site. They have a headline stating "Blackhawks rule Crawford 'unfit to play'." They said Corey did not practice with the team today. I hope he doesn't have the virus. hopefully just a cold or allergies. hopefully. i was wondering why he wasn't at the voluntary practices. edit: |
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Jul 13, 2020 17:35:59 GMT -6
Just read some disturbing news on NHL.com site. They have a headline stating "Blackhawks rule Crawford 'unfit to play'." They said Corey did not practice with the team today. I hope he doesn't have the virus. hopefully just a cold or allergies. hopefully. i was wondering why he wasn't at the voluntary practices. edit: No CC, they might as well stay home, save themselves the embarrassment. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 13, 2020 17:45:59 GMT -6
hopefully just a cold or allergies. hopefully. i was wondering why he wasn't at the voluntary practices. edit: No CC, they might as well stay home, save themselves the embarrassment. the optics look pretty shitty today but there's still 12 days until they travel to edmonton. hopefully things aren't as bad as they look. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 13, 2020 18:03:53 GMT -6
That is the first step in tanking!!!
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Post by hsbob on Jul 13, 2020 18:59:52 GMT -6
The 'unfit to play' tag is the only thing teams are able to share so who knows but if I recall,CC hasn't taken part in any of the workouts so far. The ONLY chance at advancing(if that's what we want)was Crawford catching fire like never before.
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Post by hsbob on Jul 13, 2020 19:10:36 GMT -6
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 13, 2020 19:52:36 GMT -6
he signed back in april but as far as burning up a year of is ELC....someone smarter's gonna' have to field that one. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 13, 2020 20:20:30 GMT -6
he signed back in april but as far as burning up a year of is ELC....someone smarter's gonna' have to field that one. Not saying I’m that smart guy you speak of. I do believe the Hawks have to activate him to kick in his contract. Last season, the Avs used Makar in a playoff game which forgoes the 10 game deal for regular season and it kicks in the 1st year of the ELC. So if the Hawks play 3 games. They lose a year of his ELC. This is probably not the best way to do things. The only way it could ever work out is if the player doesn’t reach their potential in just 2 years, and you get to re-sign them for a lower rate due to them not having the 3rd year to develop further. It’s not really wise as the 3rd year is a much much cheaper year regardless. The Avs wasted a year of Makars for a few playoff games. Not the smartest. Now they’ll have to re-sign him a year early for a few playoff games and they’ll be in cap hell real soon as Makar will want top dollar!!! |
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Post by nighbor on Jul 13, 2020 23:12:32 GMT -6
he signed back in april but as far as burning up a year of is ELC....someone smarter's gonna' have to field that one. Not saying I’m that smart guy you speak of. I do believe the Hawks have to activate him to kick in his contract. Last season, the Avs used Makar in a playoff game which forgoes the 10 game deal for regular season and it kicks in the 1st year of the ELC. So if the Hawks play 3 games. They lose a year of his ELC. This is probably not the best way to do things. The only way it could ever work out is if the player doesn’t reach their potential in just 2 years, and you get to re-sign them for a lower rate due to them not having the 3rd year to develop further. It’s not really wise as the 3rd year is a much much cheaper year regardless. The Avs wasted a year of Makars for a few playoff games. Not the smartest. Now they’ll have to re-sign him a year early for a few playoff games and they’ll be in cap hell real soon as Makar will want top dollar!!! The last time I read anything on this subject the league ruled that Mitchell and several other players in this situation were not allowed to play. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 14, 2020 7:07:42 GMT -6
Not saying I’m that smart guy you speak of. I do believe the Hawks have to activate him to kick in his contract. Last season, the Avs used Makar in a playoff game which forgoes the 10 game deal for regular season and it kicks in the 1st year of the ELC. So if the Hawks play 3 games. They lose a year of his ELC. This is probably not the best way to do things. The only way it could ever work out is if the player doesn’t reach their potential in just 2 years, and you get to re-sign them for a lower rate due to them not having the 3rd year to develop further. It’s not really wise as the 3rd year is a much much cheaper year regardless. The Avs wasted a year of Makars for a few playoff games. Not the smartest. Now they’ll have to re-sign him a year early for a few playoff games and they’ll be in cap hell real soon as Makar will want top dollar!!! The last time I read anything on this subject the league ruled that Mitchell and several other players in this situation were not allowed to play. I could be dead wrong here. The Hawks were thinking on activating him to be part of the black aces or part of the group. Which the league has said would burn a year of his eligibility. I believe this is why many were up in arms about the idea. The Hawks were also looking further into him actually being eligible to play. Which may be a possibility, due to many opting out and many possibly getting ruled “unfit to play”. So it’s not the smartest move burning a year for absolutely nothing!!! Edit: Read the quick little article Bob posted, it explains it all. Under the new CBA if Mitchell signs by July 15, it’ll burn a year of his ELC. Yes he’s already signed. But the Hawks have to label him signed and he can hang with the team and practice with em for the 3 games. It’s the stupidest move ever if the Hawks do this!!! |
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Post by jimakablkhwks918 on Jul 14, 2020 8:30:25 GMT -6
If Crawford remains out, hello Lafreniere lottery!
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Post by hsbob on Jul 14, 2020 8:35:32 GMT -6
The last time I read anything on this subject the league ruled that Mitchell and several other players in this situation were not allowed to play. I could be dead wrong here. The Hawks were thinking on activating him to be part of the black aces or part of the group. Which the league has said would burn a year of his eligibility. I believe this is why many were up in arms about the idea. The Hawks were also looking further into him actually being eligible to play. Which may be a possibility, due to many opting out and many possibly getting ruled “unfit to play”. So it’s not the smartest move burning a year for absolutely nothing!!! Edit: Read the quick little article Bob posted, it explains it all. Under the new CBA if Mitchell signs by July 15, it’ll burn a year of his ELC. Yes he’s already signed. But the Hawks have to label him signed and he can hang with the team and practice with em for the 3 games. It’s the stupidest move ever if the Hawks do this!!! If he were able to play in the series and get that experience,that'd be one thing but we'd burn a year just so he can practice with the team. I think this goes back to promise the Hawks more than likely made to play him this year before the virus kicked in. |
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Post by acesandeights on Jul 14, 2020 11:35:14 GMT -6
In the article bob posted, Stan said this; "There’s plus and minuses to both, to burning the year and not burning the year."
I wish Stan would have explained the plusses to burning a year of Mitchell's ELC just to get a handful of practices, because I'm not seeing the plus. It's not as though a few practices are going to really advance his game.
Won't the d-men that are going to actually play get most of the practice time since they are the ones that need to get in game shape?
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Post by BigT on Jul 14, 2020 13:48:39 GMT -6
I could be dead wrong here. The Hawks were thinking on activating him to be part of the black aces or part of the group. Which the league has said would burn a year of his eligibility. I believe this is why many were up in arms about the idea. The Hawks were also looking further into him actually being eligible to play. Which may be a possibility, due to many opting out and many possibly getting ruled “unfit to play”. So it’s not the smartest move burning a year for absolutely nothing!!! Edit: Read the quick little article Bob posted, it explains it all. Under the new CBA if Mitchell signs by July 15, it’ll burn a year of his ELC. Yes he’s already signed. But the Hawks have to label him signed and he can hang with the team and practice with em for the 3 games. It’s the stupidest move ever if the Hawks do this!!! If he were able to play in the series and get that experience,that'd be one thing but we'd burn a year just so he can practice with the team. I think this goes back to promise the Hawks more than likely made to play him this year before the virus kicked in. Ye olde Occams Razor. The most logical answer is probably the truth. And I believe this to be the truth. Stan more than likely promised some sort of action this year, and he said he has to talk to Mitchell’s agent about this. My best guess is Mitchell doesn’t receive any signing bonus unless he plays. And his agent wants his money for his client and himself!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 14, 2020 13:52:04 GMT -6
OMFG...... YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME. I swear to god, if they blow a year of his ELC for PRACTICE I will have reached the end of my ability to give Stan Bowman ANY more benefit of doubt. that has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. and we wonder why we are about to be in cap hell yet again.... |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 14, 2020 13:53:07 GMT -6
If he were able to play in the series and get that experience,that'd be one thing but we'd burn a year just so he can practice with the team. I think this goes back to promise the Hawks more than likely made to play him this year before the virus kicked in. Ye olde Occams Razor. The most logical answer is probably the truth. And I believe this to be the truth. Stan more than likely promised some sort of action this year, and he said he has to talk to Mitchell’s agent about this. My best guess is Mitchell doesn’t receive any signing bonus unless he plays. And his agent wants his money for his client and himself!!! I would guess the same. what a complete jackass to offer that for this year. if the kid doesn't want to sign then trade his ass! sigh..... |
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Post by BigT on Jul 14, 2020 14:01:26 GMT -6
OMFG...... YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME. I swear to god, if they blow a year of his ELC for PRACTICE I will have reached the end of my ability to give Stan Bowman ANY more benefit of doubt. that has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. and we wonder why we are about to be in cap hell yet again.... Stan has possibly been the worst prognosticator of the NHL cap. I still find it hard to believe that he has any understanding of the NHL or the cap. When all is said and done, and he’s riding his big wheel off into the sunset. We’re all going to look back and wonder if he was also orange!!! |
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Jul 14, 2020 15:25:25 GMT -6
OMFG...... YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME. I swear to god, if they blow a year of his ELC for PRACTICE I will have reached the end of my ability to give Stan Bowman ANY more benefit of doubt. that has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. and we wonder why we are about to be in cap hell yet again.... Stan has possibly been the worst prognosticator of the NHL cap. I still find it hard to believe that he has any understanding of the NHL or the cap. When all is said and done, and he’s riding his big wheel off into the sunset. We’re all going to look back and wonder if he was also orange!!! The shit is going to hit the fan for this team, 2022-23, Kane and Toews are up, the next season Dach, Mitchell and Boquist will be ending there ELC all at the same time. We have no goalies, the team is still burdened with Seabs contract. Times are going to be real difficult in years to come. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 14, 2020 17:05:44 GMT -6
Stan has possibly been the worst prognosticator of the NHL cap. I still find it hard to believe that he has any understanding of the NHL or the cap. When all is said and done, and he’s riding his big wheel off into the sunset. We’re all going to look back and wonder if he was also orange!!! The shit is going to hit the fan for this team, 2022-23, Kane and Toews are up, the next season Dach, Mitchell and Boquist will be ending there ELC all at the same time. We have no goalies, the team is still burdened with Seabs contract. Times are going to be real difficult in years to come. I’ve feared this for some time. I know this will end and I’m a realist. But it wasn’t supposed to end when Toews and Kane were 28/29. We had them in the gawd damn prime and Stan blew it terribly. Not only should he be fired, he needs to be destroyed so this feat of futility can never be duplicated. We need a new general up top. Bad. I feel like I’ve invested in Madoff holdings, Bre-X, and Enron. Stan is as fake as a wedding cake. If it smells like shit, well!!! |
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Post by Tater on Jul 15, 2020 0:37:39 GMT -6
The shit is going to hit the fan for this team, 2022-23, Kane and Toews are up, the next season Dach, Mitchell and Boquist will be ending there ELC all at the same time. We have no goalies, the team is still burdened with Seabs contract. Times are going to be real difficult in years to come. Ya know, it's bad enough now with no hockey, but looking at this teams future makes it worse. All this missed hockey and now we get a load a crap to watch for the next few/several years.
Rocky!!!! Please wake up!!
Wakey wakey.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 6:35:51 GMT -6
OMFG...... YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME. I swear to god, if they blow a year of his ELC for PRACTICE I will have reached the end of my ability to give Stan Bowman ANY more benefit of doubt. that has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. and we wonder why we are about to be in cap hell yet again.... I'd love to hear from any of the Bowman supporters and have them explain how this was a good move? It just adds to his legacy as one of the worst GM's of all time. |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 15, 2020 7:25:29 GMT -6
OMFG...... YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME. I swear to god, if they blow a year of his ELC for PRACTICE I will have reached the end of my ability to give Stan Bowman ANY more benefit of doubt. that has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. and we wonder why we are about to be in cap hell yet again.... I'd love to hear from any of the Bowman supporters and have them explain how this was a good move? It just adds to his legacy as one of the worst GM's of all time. Well......I'm an ex-supporter but I won't attempt to explain why it's a good move because it's an awful move but in fairness I think a promise was made to get him to sign. This is only my opinion but we've seen many NCAA signings get their games right after joining the team and agreements have been mentioned in the past and Mitchell's higher rated than the others so assuming promises were made seems reasonable to me. The questions at this point for me are,were promises necessary to sign him and what does the player and his camp do if the team doesn't activate the ELC? He's already signed and can't go back to college. |
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Post by acesandeights on Jul 15, 2020 8:36:57 GMT -6
It helps to read the article that bob posted the link to. Stan said the Hawks have talked about the whole situation with Mitchell's agent and the Hawks are open to whatever Mitchell decides to do. He said "..whatever really works best for Ian."
Both sides are well aware of the plusses and minuses so if Mitchell and his agent decide to use up a year of his ELC this season, you can't point fingers at Stan. The decision will be up to Mitchell and his agent.
Interesting to note three players (Wild, Blues, Habs) are choosing to use up a year.
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Post by BigT on Jul 15, 2020 14:34:02 GMT -6
It helps to read the article that bob posted the link to. Stan said the Hawks have talked about the whole situation with Mitchell's agent and the Hawks are open to whatever Mitchell decides to do. He said "..whatever really works best for Ian." Both sides are well aware of the plusses and minuses so if Mitchell and his agent decide to use up a year of his ELC this season, you can't point fingers at Stan. The decision will be up to Mitchell and his agent. Interesting to note three players (Wild, Blues, Habs) are choosing to use up a year. We definitely can point the finger at Stan. He promised him money, now the kid wants his signing bonus or whatever monies he’s entitled to, due to Stan Bowman’s terrible negotiations..... again!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 15, 2020 15:52:51 GMT -6
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Post by acesandeights on Jul 15, 2020 16:15:27 GMT -6
It helps to read the article that bob posted the link to. Stan said the Hawks have talked about the whole situation with Mitchell's agent and the Hawks are open to whatever Mitchell decides to do. He said "..whatever really works best for Ian." Both sides are well aware of the plusses and minuses so if Mitchell and his agent decide to use up a year of his ELC this season, you can't point fingers at Stan. The decision will be up to Mitchell and his agent. Interesting to note three players (Wild, Blues, Habs) are choosing to use up a year. We definitely can point the finger at Stan. He promised him money, now the kid wants his signing bonus or whatever monies he’s entitled to, due to Stan Bowman’s terrible negotiations..... again!!! From the article: " Mitchell’s contract can’t include a signing bonus or performance bonus payable this season. It can contain a signing bonus payable next season, as long as it’s dated to be paid after the opening of this offseason free agent signing period, which starts following the 2020 NHL Draft (scheduled for Oct. 9-10) and the conclusion of the Stanley Cup Final." Are you saying Stan promised Mitchell other money under the table, beyond what's called for in the contract? If he did, how do we know this? Was there an article about it? Was it okay with Mitchell's agent? Back in April, it said the terms of the contract have already been agreed to; only the AAV and start date haven't been determined due to the suspension of play because of the coronavirus. It's the same kind of deal Romanov signed with Montreal. I need to correct the earlier mention of the Blues player choosing to use his first year; his deal will start in 2021. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 15, 2020 17:19:13 GMT -6
That's good news, some people can step back from the ledge now 😆 |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 15, 2020 17:21:53 GMT -6
I watched the live scrimmage today and I like the lines, Debrincat and Strome aren't together but at least they're on the top6, Dach has his own line on the 3rd with Kubalik and Caggiula 👍
Plus it's nice seeing Seabs out there looking refreshed and making strong defensive plays.
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