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Post by BigT on Aug 1, 2020 6:59:17 GMT -6
I thought it was a penalty, but definitely not suspension worthy. It wasn’t Reaves hardest hit and he laid up a bit there. Slo Mo is very damning. I thought it was a 2 minute for charging. Definitely a penalty, but not suspension worthy!!! I would disagree in that Reeves is already a repeat offender and not suspending him just encourages him. imo. In normal motion, you can see he holds up and basically just shoves him to the ground. If he ran through him like it looks in slo mo, then I’d agree with you. It is the NHL, I’d hope we keep a little physicality. I think the playoffs are gonna be like that ten fold. I thought the Blues took it a little too far last year, it made that Reaves hit look like a pillow fight. Reaves should have been assessed a penalty. Cuz it was!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Aug 1, 2020 7:42:54 GMT -6
I would disagree in that Reeves is already a repeat offender and not suspending him just encourages him. imo. In normal motion, you can see he holds up and basically just shoves him to the ground. If he ran through him like it looks in slo mo, then I’d agree with you. It is the NHL, I’d hope we keep a little physicality. I think the playoffs are gonna be like that ten fold. I thought the Blues took it a little too far last year, it made that Reaves hit look like a pillow fight. Reaves should have been assessed a penalty. Cuz it was!!! This was an obvious hit to the head but it wasn't the Blues and you don't like Schmaltz so you pass it off as just a hit? Please post a vid of Blues hits that made Reaves cowardly attack look like a pillow fight. If Bortuzzo woulda done that same thing to Dach the other night,you woulda lost your mind! The league always reviews hits in slo mo,this one looked bad because it was bad. QUITE a message and a tone set for the rest of the way. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Aug 1, 2020 8:55:32 GMT -6
I would disagree in that Reeves is already a repeat offender and not suspending him just encourages him. imo. In normal motion, you can see he holds up and basically just shoves him to the ground. If he ran through him like it looks in slo mo, then I’d agree with you. It is the NHL, I’d hope we keep a little physicality. I think the playoffs are gonna be like that ten fold. I thought the Blues took it a little too far last year, it made that Reaves hit look like a pillow fight. Reaves should have been assessed a penalty. Cuz it was!!! so that's why there were no reported concussions in the '60's and prior. it's the damn slow motion that causes them. : ) |
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Post by BigT on Aug 1, 2020 10:09:32 GMT -6
Anyone else notice the crowd noise sounds like boos during the anthems???
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Post by BigT on Aug 1, 2020 10:19:12 GMT -6
In normal motion, you can see he holds up and basically just shoves him to the ground. If he ran through him like it looks in slo mo, then I’d agree with you. It is the NHL, I’d hope we keep a little physicality. I think the playoffs are gonna be like that ten fold. I thought the Blues took it a little too far last year, it made that Reaves hit look like a pillow fight. Reaves should have been assessed a penalty. Cuz it was!!! This was an obvious hit to the head but it wasn't the Blues and you don't like Schmaltz so you pass it off as just a hit? Please post a vid of Blues hits that made Reaves cowardly attack look like a pillow fight. If Bortuzzo woulda done that same thing to Dach the other night,you woulda lost your mind! The league always reviews hits in slo mo,this one looked bad because it was bad. QUITE a message and a tone set for the rest of the way. Possibly worst slew foot I’ve ever seen and possibly worst non call I’ve ever seen. I’ll take Reaves hit any day over this. This can actually kill you!!! |
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Post by BigT on Aug 1, 2020 10:21:30 GMT -6
youtu.be/bBcqRITc0zoThis one is the worst in slo mo! There’s about 50 of these from last years playoffs with the blues leading the way!!!
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Post by BigT on Aug 1, 2020 10:29:44 GMT -6
And for good measure! youtu.be/NU4YPa-RIcQAll the players backs were to the play. It’s cowardly and absolutely backwards. They went through the playoffs doing this. This is not hockey and it should never pretend to be!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Aug 1, 2020 11:36:40 GMT -6
And for good measure! youtu.be/NU4YPa-RIcQAll the players backs were to the play. It’s cowardly and absolutely backwards. They went through the playoffs doing this. This is not hockey and it should never pretend to be!!! If you have no problem with Reaves hit then I have no problem with with either hit you posted.......see how this works? |
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Post by BigT on Aug 1, 2020 12:12:31 GMT -6
And for good measure! youtu.be/NU4YPa-RIcQAll the players backs were to the play. It’s cowardly and absolutely backwards. They went through the playoffs doing this. This is not hockey and it should never pretend to be!!! If you have no problem with Reaves hit then I have no problem with with either hit you posted.......see how this works? When a players back is to the play, it’s very dangerous. Reaves hit was definitely a penalty. I just don’t think it was suspension worthy. I like tough “in your face” hockey. Just not the hit from behind, way over the line stuff!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Aug 1, 2020 13:07:02 GMT -6
If you have no problem with Reaves hit then I have no problem with with either hit you posted.......see how this works? When a players back is to the play, it’s very dangerous. Reaves hit was definitely a penalty. I just don’t think it was suspension worthy. I like tough “in your face” hockey. Just not the hit from behind, way over the line stuff!!! if he didn't have a history, I'd give him the benefit of doubt. but, he does and so I cannot. |
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Post by BigT on Aug 1, 2020 13:20:09 GMT -6
When a players back is to the play, it’s very dangerous. Reaves hit was definitely a penalty. I just don’t think it was suspension worthy. I like tough “in your face” hockey. Just not the hit from behind, way over the line stuff!!! if he didn't have a history, I'd give him the benefit of doubt. how, he does and so I cannot. I personally like Reaves. I think he’s very useful. I do agree he crosses the line. But when he plays tough in your face hockey, he’s very helpful in that way. Plus he’s probably toughest in the league. I don’t disagree with you guys, it was a dirty hit, just not suspension worthy. Even if he has a history, that doesn’t make the hit worse. I’ll tell you this, this Hawks team could use a Reaves or 3!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Aug 1, 2020 13:29:17 GMT -6
if he didn't have a history, I'd give him the benefit of doubt. how, he does and so I cannot. I personally like Reaves. I think he’s very useful. I do agree he crosses the line. But when he plays tough in your face hockey, he’s very helpful in that way. Plus he’s probably toughest in the league. I don’t disagree with you guys, it was a dirty hit, just not suspension worthy. Even if he has a history, that doesn’t make the hit worse. I’ll tell you this, this Hawks team could use a Reaves or 3!!! I've never liked Reeves, but that probably at least partially has to do with him playing on some team in st loo.... but I agree we could definitely use a couple guys like him. |
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Post by BigT on Aug 1, 2020 21:11:45 GMT -6
I know many will hate Tkachuk. But that bastard causes the most shit and he also takes care of his business. No one fights for Chuky. I’m really starting to like that kid. He can play on my team any day.... same goes for Gallagher. He’s awesome too!!!
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Post by tincup on Aug 1, 2020 21:54:10 GMT -6
sigh..... another fine example of jackassery from the player "safety" dept..... wow. looks like the league figured that was a clean check. that's a head scratcher. Schmaltz would scratch his head too but he’d have to find it first. Another fine decision by the NHL. |
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Post by shooter61 on Aug 2, 2020 16:38:34 GMT -6
This was an obvious hit to the head but it wasn't the Blues and you don't like Schmaltz so you pass it off as just a hit? Please post a vid of Blues hits that made Reaves cowardly attack look like a pillow fight. If Bortuzzo woulda done that same thing to Dach the other night,you woulda lost your mind! The league always reviews hits in slo mo,this one looked bad because it was bad. QUITE a message and a tone set for the rest of the way. Possibly worst slew foot I’ve ever seen and possibly worst non call I’ve ever seen. I’ll take Reaves hit any day over this. This can actually kill you!!! You haven't seen to many slew foots then, didn't think that was a pen, it was more of a stick play than kicking the feet out take a look at marchand he's a master |
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Post by tincup on Aug 2, 2020 21:09:52 GMT -6
This was an obvious hit to the head but it wasn't the Blues and you don't like Schmaltz so you pass it off as just a hit? Please post a vid of Blues hits that made Reaves cowardly attack look like a pillow fight. If Bortuzzo woulda done that same thing to Dach the other night,you woulda lost your mind! The league always reviews hits in slo mo,this one looked bad because it was bad. QUITE a message and a tone set for the rest of the way. Possibly worst slew foot I’ve ever seen and possibly worst non call I’ve ever seen. I’ll take Reaves hit any day over this. This can actually kill you!!! It’s Boston. I could care less when they have the master of dirt on their team. |
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Post by BigT on Aug 2, 2020 21:44:14 GMT -6
That’s bad. I agree there. I still feel Bozaks was worse. And it was in a Cup final game. Kinda ridiculous that play wasn’t called. If it was called, that Perron goal never gets scored and Boston is on a PP. Different series at that point. Especially that was game 6 and the deciding game I believe!!!
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Post by vadarx on Aug 2, 2020 22:34:33 GMT -6
That’s bad. I agree there. I still feel Bozaks was worse. And it was in a Cup final game. Kinda ridiculous that play wasn’t called. If it was called, that Perron goal never gets scored and Boston is on a PP. Different series at that point. Especially that was game 6 and the deciding game I believe!!! it was game 5 and it was a bs non-call. I believe the officials made up for it in game 6, tho. |
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Post by vadarx on Aug 9, 2020 8:45:31 GMT -6
it dawned on me last night that there is now a 3/8 chance that a central division team gets the top pick and a 6/8 chance that I am going to be annoyed tomorrow night (maybe seven if ya count the Rags, but they are probably the one Original Six team i don't at least strongly dislike).
really hope it is Florida....
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Post by galaxytrash on Aug 10, 2020 16:32:34 GMT -6
i wish florida would have got the #1 but i'm more than okay with the rangers getting him.
could have been much, much worse.
edit: rangers were due. they haven't had a #1 pick since 1965.
and unless i'm mistaken, only 13 picks inside the top 10 in 50 years.
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Aug 10, 2020 17:02:43 GMT -6
I called it, I had told Big T, if the Habs would of lost to the Pens they would of won the lottery and if not the number #1 was going to a big market team like the Rangers. T
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Post by vadarx on Aug 10, 2020 18:17:31 GMT -6
i wish florida would have got the #1 but i'm more than okay with the rangers getting him. could have been much, much worse. edit: rangers were due. they haven't had a #1 pick since 1965. and unless i'm mistaken, only 13 picks inside the top 10 in 50 years. honestly, I'm good with the rags getting it. that's gonna be a good team here in a year or two, but much rather them than any central team. or Pitt. or the Oil. or the loafs. |
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Post by BigT on Aug 11, 2020 6:26:59 GMT -6
I called it, I had told Big T, if the Habs would of lost to the Pens they would of won the lottery and if not the number #1 was going to a big market team like the Rangers. T Yup. I was hoping either Florida or the Rags. It wouldn’t be fair if a loaded team like Pitt, Edmonton, Toronta etc got it. Now, the Rags are doing ok top end talent wise and their cap is pretty much maxed out. Flat cap for 3-4 years their thinking. Do they trade Lafreniere to Ottawa for 3 and 5 and maybe more? It’s a tough call, cuz Byfield and Drysdale are exactly why they need. And every team needs a Lafreniere!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Aug 11, 2020 10:02:02 GMT -6
I called it, I had told Big T, if the Habs would of lost to the Pens they would of won the lottery and if not the number #1 was going to a big market team like the Rangers. T Yup. I was hoping either Florida or the Rags. It wouldn’t be fair if a loaded team like Pitt, Edmonton, Toronta etc got it. Now, the Rags are doing ok top end talent wise and their cap is pretty much maxed out. Flat cap for 3-4 years their thinking. Do they trade Lafreniere to Ottawa for 3 and 5 and maybe more? It’s a tough call, cuz Byfield and Drysdale are exactly why they need. And every team needs a Lafreniere!!! that is an interesting thought for the rags. seems to me like they are gonna be pretty good here in the next year or two. they have a bunch of prospects that look pretty good. gonna be a team to watch, for sure. I dunno if I would do that deal or not, but they are going to be in a 2010 Blackhawks cap situation in a few years, so it might behoove them to get ahead of it.... |
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Aug 11, 2020 15:27:38 GMT -6
Yup. I was hoping either Florida or the Rags. It wouldn’t be fair if a loaded team like Pitt, Edmonton, Toronta etc got it. Now, the Rags are doing ok top end talent wise and their cap is pretty much maxed out. Flat cap for 3-4 years their thinking. Do they trade Lafreniere to Ottawa for 3 and 5 and maybe more? It’s a tough call, cuz Byfield and Drysdale are exactly why they need. And every team needs a Lafreniere!!! that is an interesting thought for the rags. seems to me like they are gonna be pretty good here in the next year or two. they have a bunch of prospects that look pretty good. gonna be a team to watch, for sure. I dunno if I would do that deal or not, but they are going to be in a 2010 Blackhawks cap situation in a few years, so it might behoove them to get ahead of it.... No way they trade there first round pick. Lafreniere will be a Ranger. |
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Post by BigT on Aug 11, 2020 15:38:17 GMT -6
Yup. I was hoping either Florida or the Rags. It wouldn’t be fair if a loaded team like Pitt, Edmonton, Toronta etc got it. Now, the Rags are doing ok top end talent wise and their cap is pretty much maxed out. Flat cap for 3-4 years their thinking. Do they trade Lafreniere to Ottawa for 3 and 5 and maybe more? It’s a tough call, cuz Byfield and Drysdale are exactly why they need. And every team needs a Lafreniere!!! that is an interesting thought for the rags. seems to me like they are gonna be pretty good here in the next year or two. they have a bunch of prospects that look pretty good. gonna be a team to watch, for sure. I dunno if I would do that deal or not, but they are going to be in a 2010 Blackhawks cap situation in a few years, so it might behoove them to get ahead of it.... Ya, that’s what I was thinking. If both players they pick at 3 and 5 aren’t ready for another year. It gives them time to ship out the players that they have their replacements for. Also to be cap compliant. Although Lafreniere would be an amazing talent to drop out of the sky in your lap. I just feel that quite a few teams would probably benefit more from the 3 and 5 picks. Lafreniere will be a kid that will get 10+ million. I don’t think they can afford this with Panera getting 12, Trouba 8, Zibanejad 5.3, Kreider 6.5. And the rest of the team is RFA in 1-2 years. The only relief they get is Lundqvist comes off in 2 years and he’s at 8.5. Right now they got 5 guys taking up half their cap. I’m sure they’ll take the sensational talent. Ottawa needs that high end skill player, and they have space. This is why I think the Hawks should try and send Dcat and Strome there for the 5th overall. They would love a 41 goal scorer and a 6’3” centerman that can put up points. The salary is nothing to the Sens, they have a lot of cap space. I know many Hawks fans get too high on the highs and too low on the lows. But I can assure that Dcat has massive value around the NHL. He’s not a dead contract requiring a sweetener. There’s some really good players available at 5. Possibly Drysdale, Perfetti, Rossi, Raymond, Holtz etc. I think it’d be a very smart move on the Hawks behalf to get cap compliant and still regain a valuable asset!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Aug 11, 2020 16:44:08 GMT -6
that is an interesting thought for the rags. seems to me like they are gonna be pretty good here in the next year or two. they have a bunch of prospects that look pretty good. gonna be a team to watch, for sure. I dunno if I would do that deal or not, but they are going to be in a 2010 Blackhawks cap situation in a few years, so it might behoove them to get ahead of it.... No way they trade there first round pick. Lafreniere will be a Ranger. I expect that to be the case as well, just thinking aloud. |
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Post by vadarx on Aug 11, 2020 16:46:51 GMT -6
that is an interesting thought for the rags. seems to me like they are gonna be pretty good here in the next year or two. they have a bunch of prospects that look pretty good. gonna be a team to watch, for sure. I dunno if I would do that deal or not, but they are going to be in a 2010 Blackhawks cap situation in a few years, so it might behoove them to get ahead of it.... Ya, that’s what I was thinking. If both players they pick at 3 and 5 aren’t ready for another year. It gives them time to ship out the players that they have their replacements for. Also to be cap compliant. Although Lafreniere would be an amazing talent to drop out of the sky in your lap. I just feel that quite a few teams would probably benefit more from the 3 and 5 picks. Lafreniere will be a kid that will get 10+ million. I don’t think they can afford this with Panera getting 12, Trouba 8, Zibanejad 5.3, Kreider 6.5. And the rest of the team is RFA in 1-2 years. The only relief they get is Lundqvist comes off in 2 years and he’s at 8.5. Right now they got 5 guys taking up half their cap. I’m sure they’ll take the sensational talent. Ottawa needs that high end skill player, and they have space. This is why I think the Hawks should try and send Dcat and Strome there for the 5th overall. They would love a 41 goal scorer and a 6’3” centerman that can put up points. The salary is nothing to the Sens, they have a lot of cap space. I know many Hawks fans get too high on the highs and too low on the lows. But I can assure that Dcat has massive value around the NHL. He’s not a dead contract requiring a sweetener. There’s some really good players available at 5. Possibly Drysdale, Perfetti, Rossi, Raymond, Holtz etc. I think it’d be a very smart move on the Hawks behalf to get cap compliant and still regain a valuable asset!!! it would be a move for the future, certainly. but I think you take the best player here. by the time he costs 10 million, they'll had had plenty of time to prepare for it and also to win some hockey games with him playing on the cheap. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Aug 11, 2020 16:53:51 GMT -6
that is an interesting thought for the rags. seems to me like they are gonna be pretty good here in the next year or two. they have a bunch of prospects that look pretty good. gonna be a team to watch, for sure. I dunno if I would do that deal or not, but they are going to be in a 2010 Blackhawks cap situation in a few years, so it might behoove them to get ahead of it.... No way they trade there first round pick. Lafreniere will be a Ranger. i doubt it as well but the fact that they already have kreider and panarin as left wingers makes it a possibility. |
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Post by BigT on Aug 11, 2020 17:55:37 GMT -6
Ya, that’s what I was thinking. If both players they pick at 3 and 5 aren’t ready for another year. It gives them time to ship out the players that they have their replacements for. Also to be cap compliant. Although Lafreniere would be an amazing talent to drop out of the sky in your lap. I just feel that quite a few teams would probably benefit more from the 3 and 5 picks. Lafreniere will be a kid that will get 10+ million. I don’t think they can afford this with Panera getting 12, Trouba 8, Zibanejad 5.3, Kreider 6.5. And the rest of the team is RFA in 1-2 years. The only relief they get is Lundqvist comes off in 2 years and he’s at 8.5. Right now they got 5 guys taking up half their cap. I’m sure they’ll take the sensational talent. Ottawa needs that high end skill player, and they have space. This is why I think the Hawks should try and send Dcat and Strome there for the 5th overall. They would love a 41 goal scorer and a 6’3” centerman that can put up points. The salary is nothing to the Sens, they have a lot of cap space. I know many Hawks fans get too high on the highs and too low on the lows. But I can assure that Dcat has massive value around the NHL. He’s not a dead contract requiring a sweetener. There’s some really good players available at 5. Possibly Drysdale, Perfetti, Rossi, Raymond, Holtz etc. I think it’d be a very smart move on the Hawks behalf to get cap compliant and still regain a valuable asset!!! it would be a move for the future, certainly. but I think you take the best player here. by the time he costs 10 million, they'll had had plenty of time to prepare for it and also to win some hockey games with him playing on the cheap. However, as we’ve seen with bonus’s, top 3 picks can fetch a lotta cash. Lafreniere will probably get paid 3-4 million. His base salary and all the weird bonuses they give them. Remember Toews bonus of winning the Conn Smyth? I know McDavid cleaned up nicely. So I think the cap crunch will be sooner than later. But I guess with that type of talent, it’s a solid problem to have!!! |
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