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Post by number9 on Oct 26, 2021 14:14:15 GMT -6
Bowman, that dick, should of been fired for his lack of hockey acumen period! It's a sad state of affairs when it takes something like this horrible event to fire a guy like Bowman. Yeah we did the right thing NOW, but I hope the Hawks don't become a shit stain organization in the NHL going forward. In today's day something like this is hard to just sweep under the rug. People will remember. Oh I also read where that fuck Bradley Aldrich alleged "threatened him with a baseball bat to have sex, then later ejaculated on him." I hope this piece of shit gets everything coming to him. In fact give me a bat I'll volunteer... Horrible... Yeah the investigation report that came out said it was a 20yr old black ace and that PoS Aldrich gave him oral then recieved a hand job from John Doe plus had him ejaculate on his back. Then the Hawks gave him a good review and he later worked at a high school and struck again. This guy should be castrated. It must have been so difficult for that poor kid to come out and say something. Then for the org to do nothing or very little about it is sickening. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Oct 26, 2021 14:15:56 GMT -6
I was thinking the same thing, that's a big black cloud over the franchise and I'm sure it was a big distraction, plus Collitons shitty system. Now that the major parties in the coverup, minus Rocky, are all gone hopefully it helps the team on the ice. I’d have to think the cloud will be there as there will be a lot of reporters asking a ton of questions. Even Toews is in protocol now. Maybe they want this to blow over and keep Toews and Kane away? I’m not a fan of how things have gone down. But we have to think not having a lead in 6 games to start a season is no fluke. Losing is one thing, but never having a lead this season is awful. We’ll see what happens. But the Leaves are starting to ramp up and the streak may continue!!! Unfortunately it came to this and I'm sure Toews and Kane will be asked about it a lot considering they were the young stars on that team. That might be why they're on protocol. We talked about scenarios in the summer and I was hoping this scandal would mean the end of his reign early in the season and not because of a bad start, well 1 outta 2 was right and this start sucks but at least the one I got right was Bowman being fired early. Stan left a huge stain on this franchise but this is a great day for a real rebuild...without Scambo. |
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Post by hsbob on Oct 26, 2021 14:16:37 GMT -6
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Oct 26, 2021 14:19:48 GMT -6
I think they wanted to rid themselves of the front office because of the bad hockey decisions but this is a way for them to accomplish that and look like they’re doing it for the proper reasons. A fortuitous happenstance for the club. But seriously, in business or politics, you rarely see the head of the snake fall. This is as close as it gets. There’s likely more fallout to come as all the deniers will be called out again. Sad display for what was for awhile the franchise face of the NHL. Now let’s hire the right people, get a fresh set of eyes on the operation from minors through the scouting department all the way up and get this back on track. Amen to that, lets start with the coach Stan hired. Crawford knows the players and team so he can take over for now. If the Hunters wanna take over in the summer that'll be huge for the franchise. But all that matters now is Bowman is gone 🤗 |
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Post by number9 on Oct 26, 2021 14:21:41 GMT -6
I'm surprised there's no mention of Bergevin |
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Post by T-man2010 on Oct 26, 2021 14:26:46 GMT -6
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Oct 26, 2021 14:28:12 GMT -6
Yeah the investigation report that came out said it was a 20yr old black ace and that PoS Aldrich gave him oral then recieved a hand job from John Doe plus had him ejaculate on his back. Then the Hawks gave him a good review and he later worked at a high school and struck again. This guy should be castrated. It must have been so difficult for that poor kid to come out and say something. Then for the org to do nothing or very little about it is sickening. No doubt, 20yr old black ace just wanting a chance, so of course it must've been difficult telling management but for them to cover it up would've been gut wrenching. It's very sickening and I'm sure John Mcdonnut had the biggest voice in the room but Q was there as well, plus Winnipegs GM. Rocky is the only one left in the franchise from those meetings, can the league force him to sell the team? |
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Post by jacksalmon on Oct 26, 2021 14:33:54 GMT -6
It will be interesting to see what happens to Joel Q and Cheverdayoff (sp?) as the article above says they knew what was going on with the cover up and said/did nothing. I guess there were a lot of bad boys in the organization. It would have been so simple to stand back and turn things over to the local law enforcement authorities and let them do their work. Maybe now, they can go 10 or 15 games without a win, or a lead. Should be an interesting year.
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Post by T-man2010 on Oct 26, 2021 14:46:35 GMT -6
It must have been so difficult for that poor kid to come out and say something. Then for the org to do nothing or very little about it is sickening. No doubt, 20yr old black ace just wanting a chance, so of course it must've been difficult telling management but for them to cover it up would've been gut wrenching. It's very sickening and I'm sure John Mcdonnut had the biggest voice in the room but Q was there as well, plus Winnipegs GM. Rocky is the only one left in the franchise from those meetings, can the league force him to sell the team? Apparently Rocky was not in the meeting. |
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Post by number9 on Oct 26, 2021 14:48:08 GMT -6
It must have been so difficult for that poor kid to come out and say something. Then for the org to do nothing or very little about it is sickening. No doubt, 20yr old black ace just wanting a chance, so of course it must've been difficult telling management but for them to cover it up would've been gut wrenching. It's very sickening and I'm sure John Mcdonnut had the biggest voice in the room but Q was there as well, plus Winnipegs GM. Rocky is the only one left in the franchise from those meetings, can the league force him to sell the team? Wasn't there a basketball owner a few years ago who was forced to do this? |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Oct 26, 2021 14:57:34 GMT -6
No doubt, 20yr old black ace just wanting a chance, so of course it must've been difficult telling management but for them to cover it up would've been gut wrenching. It's very sickening and I'm sure John Mcdonnut had the biggest voice in the room but Q was there as well, plus Winnipegs GM. Rocky is the only one left in the franchise from those meetings, can the league force him to sell the team? Apparently Rocky was not in the meeting. I just watched the video you posted and you're right, Rocky wasn't in that meeting. John Mcdonnut and Q said in that meeting to not get the police involved to keep it out of the public because they're on a Cup run, that isn't going to be good for Q. Same with Chevy in Winnipeg cause he was in there. I'm just glad everyone involved in that meeting is gone, especially Stan and John, never liked either from the start. |
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Post by squishy24 on Oct 26, 2021 15:00:45 GMT -6
I agree with ya Tman. But get a load of this shit he’s spewing. Way to take blame Scambo!!! theres always a bigger fish |
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Post by LordKOTL on Oct 26, 2021 15:02:45 GMT -6
What the flyin' fukkkkk!!!! I work outside for a few hours and come back in to this,Bowman's gone yet somehow I don't feel like celebrating. It's bittersweet, but given what my wife does for a living (Forensic child interviewer), the fact that a bunch of execs got called out for covering up sexual assault, publicly, and are taking the fall is something that needed to happen. Not just for the 'hawks, and hockey in general, but everyone's life in general. From a hockey acumen standpoint Stan needed to go. But the fact that he and the rest of the 'hawks brass pulled a catholic church and covered this shit up, and now everyone knows, hopefully this will make it less likley for organizations to cover up abuse. Hopefully. Yeah the investigation report that came out said it was a 20yr old black ace and that PoS Aldrich gave him oral then recieved a hand job from John Doe plus had him ejaculate on his back. Then the Hawks gave him a good review and he later worked at a high school and struck again. This guy should be castrated. Per Illinois law, they cannot give a good or bad review. Only that he worked there. I think that's the same everywhere. Yeah the investigation report that came out said it was a 20yr old black ace and that PoS Aldrich gave him oral then recieved a hand job from John Doe plus had him ejaculate on his back. Then the Hawks gave him a good review and he later worked at a high school and struck again. This guy should be castrated. It must have been so difficult for that poor kid to come out and say something. Then for the org to do nothing or very little about it is sickening. Yes. sickening. Same with James Gary telling the kid it was his fault. That eunuch deserves a lot of bad shit to happen to him. No doubt, 20yr old black ace just wanting a chance, so of course it must've been difficult telling management but for them to cover it up would've been gut wrenching. It's very sickening and I'm sure John Mcdonnut had the biggest voice in the room but Q was there as well, plus Winnipegs GM. Rocky is the only one left in the franchise from those meetings, can the league force him to sell the team? Wasn't there a basketball owner a few years ago who was forced to do this? If I remember correctly, the basketball owner himself made racists statements, and was forced to sell the team because of that. |
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Post by BigT on Oct 26, 2021 15:04:04 GMT -6
One thing to keep in mind. Q and Chevy could have been very easily told what to do by McD. And I highly doubt any meeting took place without McD going over everything first. Just like how they said they interviewed 14 players from that team. What are players supposed to do? They’re employees and kids for the most part. Even a 28 year old may not know exactly what to do.
So until now very one gets their say. I’m not accusing anyone yet. So far, the org did a great job with this, but seemed to lay the blame all on McD. And they praised Scambo. I found that very odd. I think they should a left out that bullshit at this time!!!
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Post by T-man2010 on Oct 26, 2021 15:05:39 GMT -6
What the flyin' fukkkkk!!!! I work outside for a few hours and come back in to this,Bowman's gone yet somehow I don't feel like celebrating. It's bittersweet, but given what my wife does for a living (Forensic child interviewer), the fact that a bunch of execs got called out for covering up sexual assault, publicly, and are taking the fall is something that needed to happen. Not just for the 'hawks, and hockey in general, but everyone's life in general. From a hockey acumen standpoint Stan needed to go. But the fact that he and the rest of the 'hawks brass pulled a catholic church and covered this shit up, and now everyone knows, hopefully this will make it less likley for organizations to cover up abuse. Hopefully. Per Illinois law, they cannot give a good or bad review. Only that he worked there. It must have been so difficult for that poor kid to come out and say something. Then for the org to do nothing or very little about it is sickening. Yes. sickening. Same with James Gary telling the kid it was his fault. That eunuch deserves a lot of bad shit to happen to him. Wasn't there a basketball owner a few years ago who was forced to do this? If I remember correctly, the basketball owner himself made racists statements, and was forced to sell the team because of that. Every State has their own law on that. Many are the same. |
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Post by mikeveisor on Oct 26, 2021 15:23:03 GMT -6
It must have been so difficult for that poor kid to come out and say something. Then for the org to do nothing or very little about it is sickening. No doubt, 20yr old black ace just wanting a chance, so of course it must've been difficult telling management but for them to cover it up would've been gut wrenching. It's very sickening and I'm sure John Mcdonnut had the biggest voice in the room but Q was there as well, plus Winnipegs GM. Rocky is the only one left in the franchise from those meetings, can the league force him to sell the team? Here's my take - as the owner of the club, even if you did not hear of these allegations contemporaneously and McDonough kept everything under wraps, there have been 11 seasons (math?) in the interim and this issue never/NEVER surfaced during that time...? I want to believe that the Wirtzes truly did not know and the Jenner/Block investigation was just as much about getting their names cleared when the lawsuit appeared. But I am left feeling that the Wirtzes just wanted a way to clear their name in this - and a club-optioned Jenner/Block investigation was the answer. If so, how can any of us really ever want this club to succeed while the family controls the team? If they were absolutely without knowledge until the lawsuit and needed Jenner/Block to flesh this out (no pun intended), well, I did my stint in law school and have been in the industry for years and the way this was presented today by Alan Rickman, Rocky Wirtz, and J/B...plausible deniability has been created. And I know I mentioned this in prior pages: this will NEVER get to discovery, and this will get settled short of all 139 witnesses being made available to Mr. Doe's counsel (and all those emails we can reasonably-surmise as being on a server somewhere). I am sort of hopeful John Doe recognizes some shortcomings in today's unilateral announcement (and seemingly pre-agreed to fine by the NHL) and decides he does not want to settle. But therein lies the danger of the statute of limitations argument by the club. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Oct 26, 2021 15:23:31 GMT -6
One thing to keep in mind. Q and Chevy could have been very easily told what to do by McD. And I highly doubt any meeting took place without McD going over everything first. Just like how they said they interviewed 14 players from that team. What are players supposed to do? They’re employees and kids for the most part. Even a 28 year old may not know exactly what to do. So until now very one gets their say. I’m not accusing anyone yet. So far, the org did a great job with this, but seemed to lay the blame all on McD. And they praised Scambo. I found that very odd. I think they should a left out that bullshit at this time!!! Maybe praised him for being a good boy lol Of course McD was the head of the snake and oversaw everything but Q has a big voice as well, so I believe both wanted this covered up and were more worried about ending the 49yr drought. It'll be interesting to see what happens to Q now. I liked how they handled this as well, hired a 3rd party investigation team and fired anyone who was still here from that meeting, and thankfully Bowman was one of them. |
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Post by gigecj on Oct 26, 2021 15:33:48 GMT -6
Maybe the NHL should force the Wirtz's to sell the team. I would LOVE that. Then again, Chicago and its ownerships have a sketchy past. Another bright spot on the horizon though is this: Colliton was Stan's man. |
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Oct 26, 2021 15:35:21 GMT -6
It’s been quit sometime since I have been around these parts, I certainly want to celebrate the fact that Blowman is gone, but under the circumstances this is a very ugly situation, Rocky and Danny did the right thing today. Hopefully Stan never gets a GM job for the rest of his career, and as for Q and Chevaldayoff, both need to be hung out to dry as well, even if they were told to keep there mouth closed. All those involved need to be vanquished from the NHL, there is no good coming out of this. After all this lost time the Chicago Blackhawks organization finally got it right, the world has no place for people like Bowman and company, fuck him, hope he rots in hell.
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Post by T-man2010 on Oct 26, 2021 15:49:36 GMT -6
It’s been quit sometime since I have been around these parts, I certainly want to celebrate the fact that Blowman is gone, but under the circumstances this is a very ugly situation, Rocky and Danny did the right thing today. Hopefully Stan never gets a GM job for the rest of his career, and as for Q and Chevaldayoff, both need to be hung out to dry as well, even if they were told to keep there mouth closed. All those involved need to be vanquished from the NHL, there is no good coming out of this. After all this lost time the Chicago Blackhawks organization finally got it right, the world has no place for people like Bowman and company, fuck him, hope he rots in hell. Make sure you get back here more often again. Need all the voices we can. |
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Post by gigecj on Oct 26, 2021 15:57:25 GMT -6
No doubt, 20yr old black ace just wanting a chance, so of course it must've been difficult telling management but for them to cover it up would've been gut wrenching. It's very sickening and I'm sure John Mcdonnut had the biggest voice in the room but Q was there as well, plus Winnipegs GM. Rocky is the only one left in the franchise from those meetings, can the league force him to sell the team? Apparently Rocky was not in the meeting. I could so see McD seeing to it that nothing like this would ever reach his boss's ears. I can't say I'm enamored with Stan's message that definitely threw McD under the bus, but I also think that this was likely so even though Stan deserves to be fired for his involvement. I think Stan is a bad GM overall, but a better person than McD. That's my sixth sense and I'm sticking to it. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Oct 26, 2021 16:12:33 GMT -6
Apparently Rocky was not in the meeting. I could so see McD seeing to it that nothing like this would ever reach his boss's ears. I can't say I'm enamored with Stan's message that definitely threw McD under the bus, but I also think that this was likely so even though Stan deserves to be fired. I think Stan is a bad GM overall, but a better person than McD. That's my sixth sense and I'm sticking to it. Here's food for thought, if McDonut and blowman have been at odds over this since the start, why didn't McD fire blowman long ago? Since the only one that could have fired McD was Rocky himself. Or did McD resign? I don't remember. |
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Post by tincup on Oct 26, 2021 16:13:37 GMT -6
So after this, who is the highest actual hockey mind remaining on the team?
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Post by gigecj on Oct 26, 2021 16:14:06 GMT -6
I could so see McD seeing to it that nothing like this would ever reach his boss's ears. I can't say I'm enamored with Stan's message that definitely threw McD under the bus, but I also think that this was likely so even though Stan deserves to be fired. I think Stan is a bad GM overall, but a better person than McD. That's my sixth sense and I'm sticking to it. Here's food for thought, if McDonut and blowman have been at odds over this since the start, why didn't McD fire blowman long ago? Since the only one that could have fired McD was Rocky himself. Or did McD resign? I don't remember. Welp, there's another way to look at it. If McD fires Bowman, then Bowman has reason to blow the whistle on McD. |
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Post by gigecj on Oct 26, 2021 16:15:24 GMT -6
So after this, who is the highest actual hockey mind remaining on the team? Tazer?  When's the last time there's been a player-coach in the NHL? JK P.S. I was only thinking about the coaching spot that might--hopefully--be available soon. GM? I don't think he's in the organization. |
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Oct 26, 2021 16:15:41 GMT -6
Apparently Rocky was not in the meeting. I could so see McD seeing to it that nothing like this would ever reach his boss's ears. I can't say I'm enamored with Stan's message that definitely threw McD under the bus, but I also think that this was likely so. I think Stan is a bad GM overall, but a better person than McD. That's my sixth sense and I'm sticking to it. How is Stan possibly a better person than McD, both are guilty on all levels, they, as a tandem with others involved ruined one kids life. If Stan was possibly a good person as you described him, this sexual allegation should not have went on for 8 years and should have been taken care of immediately. All executive members are worth no more than the scum under my shoe. No one gets a pass on this. You can not tell me, that everyone involved did not know, Stan throwing McD under the bus is typically Blowman style. Has Bowman even made an apology for his wrong doings, his mistreatment of the whole situation, the embarrassment that he has caused for the Blackhawks organization, of course not he is a dog, good bye and good riddance to that guy. |
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Post by gigecj on Oct 26, 2021 16:17:28 GMT -6
I could so see McD seeing to it that nothing like this would ever reach his boss's ears. I can't say I'm enamored with Stan's message that definitely threw McD under the bus, but I also think that this was likely so. I think Stan is a bad GM overall, but a better person than McD. That's my sixth sense and I'm sticking to it. How is Stan possibly a better person than McD, both are guilty on all levels, they, as a tandem with others involved ruined one kids life. If Stan was possibly a good person as you described him, this sexual allegation should not have went on for 8 years and should have been taken care of immediately. All executive members are worth no more than the scum under my shoe. No one gets a pass on this. You can not tell me, that everyone involved did not know, Stan throwing McD under the bus is typically Blowman style. Has Bowman even made an apology for his wrong doings, his mistreatment of the whole situation, the embarrassment that he has caused for the Blackhawks organization, of course not he is a dog, good bye and good riddance to that guy. Same old HIM...letting your emotions get the best of you. Hey, I never said Stan was an angel! I only said he's better than McD and that's not saying much! Reread. |
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Post by number9 on Oct 26, 2021 16:19:21 GMT -6
So after this, who is the highest actual hockey mind remaining on the team? I'm assuming that hasn't changed. |
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Post by BigT on Oct 26, 2021 16:20:37 GMT -6
It’s been quit sometime since I have been around these parts, I certainly want to celebrate the fact that Blowman is gone, but under the circumstances this is a very ugly situation, Rocky and Danny did the right thing today. Hopefully Stan never gets a GM job for the rest of his career, and as for Q and Chevaldayoff, both need to be hung out to dry as well, even if they were told to keep there mouth closed. All those involved need to be vanquished from the NHL, there is no good coming out of this. After all this lost time the Chicago Blackhawks organization finally got it right, the world has no place for people like Bowman and company, fuck him, hope he rots in hell. Good to see you again! The only thing I’ll say as to Chevy and Q. I could see them absolving themselves from it as management is to deal with it. And they were probably under the impression that was the case. Q was supposedly in a meeting with McD. Q probably didn’t care about the situation as he had a team to run. Also that McD said he was taking care of it. If Chevy and Q are to take a lot of the fall, then it won’t stop and Kane and Toews will take a lot of it too. As Mike pointed out. How did this escape ownership for 11 years? Plus if you watch the video they all but clear Bowman of all wrong doing, and say that Stan was in his first year and didn’t know any better. Something kinda stinks here. But at the end of the day Scambo is done!!! |
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Oct 26, 2021 16:22:18 GMT -6
It’s been quit sometime since I have been around these parts, I certainly want to celebrate the fact that Blowman is gone, but under the circumstances this is a very ugly situation, Rocky and Danny did the right thing today. Hopefully Stan never gets a GM job for the rest of his career, and as for Q and Chevaldayoff, both need to be hung out to dry as well, even if they were told to keep there mouth closed. All those involved need to be vanquished from the NHL, there is no good coming out of this. After all this lost time the Chicago Blackhawks organization finally got it right, the world has no place for people like Bowman and company, fuck him, hope he rots in hell. Make sure you get back here more often again. Need all the voices we can. T-Man I certainly will be around more often with my shoot from the hip postings, no holds barred, potty mouth write how I feel posts. I am a very happy individual and fan that virus of an individual is no longer involved with a team I have spent my entire life cheering for, respected and loved. Things can only get better now, the black cloud is starting to disperse. |
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