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Post by T-man2010 on Oct 17, 2019 20:22:36 GMT -6
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Post by T-man2010 on Oct 25, 2019 13:32:40 GMT -6
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Post by acesandeights on Oct 31, 2019 9:24:06 GMT -6
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Post by T-man2010 on Oct 31, 2019 9:37:16 GMT -6
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Post by BigT on Oct 31, 2019 15:32:21 GMT -6
I like these boards t-man. I think it’s the best solution moving forward. Thanks for this. I know all of us won’t agree on the Hawks, but that doesn’t take away from the awesomeness provided by t-man. Thanks dog..... woof!
I fear this thing gets worse before better. This team is totally fighting back against the management and coaching staff for letting Seabs take the brunt of the blame for this. It’s not like they’re putting in a better dman with more upside. We’re talking Koekkoek and or Gus. Both AHLers. It’s a total abomination to do that to the leadership group on this team. How else should they react? Now there’s a Grand Canyon sized hole in the relationship with the leadership group. It’s just easier to fire the GM and coach then it is half the players with NMC. Bowman is failing and he’s doing desperate things. Too bad, this could’ve been avoided if Stan and Q we’re both gone!!!
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Oct 31, 2019 23:12:32 GMT -6
I understand sitting Seabs for the LA game, back to back games, but not vs Nashville and dressing 6 lefties.
Nashville is good but if the guys cared there'd be no way they'd be outshot by 31, Colliton and Stan lost this team with some strange moves.
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Post by doogiew on Nov 1, 2019 2:08:13 GMT -6
I understand sitting Seabs for the LA game, back to back games, but not vs Nashville and dressing 6 lefties. Nashville is good but if the guys cared there'd be no way they'd be outshot by 31, Colliton and Stan lost this team with some strange moves. I really don't mean to be condescending here but does anyone really think Seabs being out of the line up is Collitons decision. It's got Stan Bowman written all over it and will be as such until he has a trade for Seabrook with his agreement . Seabs is the one Bowman is looking to trade not Gus what else he will have to throw in remains to be seen. But I honestly believe this is Stan and freeing up 7 million in cap space for some other stupid move he might make. JMVHO Edie: I forgot to mention that Seabs is also not liked by Colliton as Seabs has the Balls to let him have an earful and Seabs still owns the locker room. |
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Post by vadarx on Nov 1, 2019 3:25:01 GMT -6
I have to say.... I really don't like Boqvist being called up. I am starting to feel like this move, along with keeping Dach up and Nylander being basically given a spot on the big team (not that he didn't do enough to earn a shot) are all just moves made to force the incumbents out... if that makes any sense.
the youth movement is on, folks. and a new excuse to give JC and SB more time is coming with it.
next is almost certainly the jettisoning of the unhappy veterans....
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Post by BigT on Nov 1, 2019 6:11:30 GMT -6
I have to say.... I really don't like Boqvist being called up. I am starting to feel like this move, along with keeping Dach up and Nylander being basically given a spot on the big team (not that he didn't do enough to earn a shot) are all just moves made to force the incumbents out... if that makes any sense. the youth movement is on, folks. and a new excuse to give JC and SB more time is coming with it. next is almost certainly the jettisoning of the unhappy veterans.... I would hope that the powers that be allow a new GM the opportunity to correct this. Keeping Stan around is pointless, he’s had everything he could ask for handed to him, including high picks. He’s had everything now, and I see what you’re seeing, they’re going to force the kids in there at all costs. Whether it’s right or wrong, I see Stan forcing this on. Next year would be the best way. Don’t burn a year of the their ELC, and get another high pick. At this point, the kids won’t get enough leadership they need, and the leaders are pissed. Probably not a good situation. It’s probably best to let them run and gun, at least it’ll be entertaining. But I think management is willing to let this die on the vine!!! |
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Post by vonbeck on Nov 1, 2019 11:00:19 GMT -6
I have to say.... I really don't like Boqvist being called up. I am starting to feel like this move, along with keeping Dach up and Nylander being basically given a spot on the big team (not that he didn't do enough to earn a shot) are all just moves made to force the incumbents out... if that makes any sense. the youth movement is on, folks. and a new excuse to give JC and SB more time is coming with it. next is almost certainly the jettisoning of the unhappy veterans.... I understand what you're saying, but at some point you have to throw the kids in the deep end pool to see if they sink or swim. Didn't the Colorado do this a few years back, and look at them now.
The time comes when ya gotta reach into that underwear drawer and toss them old ones out, even though ya love em'...  |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 3, 2019 10:52:28 GMT -6
Someone asked Paul Maurice how the team would handle the loss off Buff,Trouba,Myers and Chiarot on the back end before the season started and he said it was HIS job to convince the team it didn't matter. Losing your top four D-men and keeping your head above water is quite commendable......maybe we need a 'convincer'.
The Canes lost their captain Williams,Faulk,de Haan and their solid back up GT...…..their head's above water too.
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Nov 3, 2019 12:55:59 GMT -6
Someone asked Paul Maurice how the team would handle the loss off Buff,Trouba,Myers and Chiarot on the back end before the season started and he said it was HIS job to convince the team it didn't matter. Losing your top four D-men and keeping your head above water is quite commendable......maybe we need a 'convincer'. The Canes lost their captain Williams,Faulk,de Haan and their solid back up GT...…..their head's above water too. So with that being said Bob, who is the ‘Convincer’ you have on the top of your list? |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 3, 2019 14:20:08 GMT -6
Someone asked Paul Maurice how the team would handle the loss off Buff,Trouba,Myers and Chiarot on the back end before the season started and he said it was HIS job to convince the team it didn't matter. Losing your top four D-men and keeping your head above water is quite commendable......maybe we need a 'convincer'. The Canes lost their captain Williams,Faulk,de Haan and their solid back up GT...…..their head's above water too. So with that being said Bob, who is the ‘Convincer’ you have on the top of your list? I don’t know if I really have a list to be honest........I’m just as lost as anyone else |
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 3, 2019 15:00:53 GMT -6
So with that being said Bob, who is the ‘Convincer’ you have on the top of your list? I don’t know if I really have a list to be honest........I’m just as lost as anyone else I said on here before, wait till the end of the season and then fire the GM and coach. Get a new GM to hire his coach and staff. Then with the minors coaches work a plan that they can do for the entire organization from top to bottom. |
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Post by doogiew on Nov 3, 2019 15:10:51 GMT -6
So with that being said Bob, who is the ‘Convincer’ you have on the top of your list? I don’t know if I really have a list to be honest........I’m just as lost as anyone else The strongest argument can be made for Mark Crawford. He has led a similar team to the Stanley cup after all. The needed goal tenting is in place as well as a talented yet lost group of forwards. The defense is also similar albeit maybe not quite as good as the Avs. The bigger question is likely whether or not Brookbank might be ready to take the helm as a head coach. Still that would have to be considered an unneeded risk with Crawford being right there. There are others that could be considered people wanted in the organization like Mark Hunter. Though to I would see him as a tremendous Bowman replacement. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 5, 2019 7:18:10 GMT -6
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Post by doogiew on Nov 5, 2019 7:34:40 GMT -6
Your link didn't work for me GT but I'll look it up thanks. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 5, 2019 7:41:04 GMT -6
Your link didn't work for me GT but I'll look it up thanks. hmmm. works for me. |
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Post by doogiew on Nov 6, 2019 8:35:18 GMT -6
Your link didn't work for me GT but I'll look it up thanks. hmmm. works for me. Thanks GT working for me now as well. |
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Post by doogiew on Nov 6, 2019 8:44:18 GMT -6
I have trouble understanding Collitons enthusiasm every time they beat one of these below 500 teams as though they are getting better. The only team they have beaten of any worth this season is the Oilers and that was a goalie win. I would be able to agree with him somewhat but they aren't even always beating the below 500 teams. No I'm sorry but I think Mr. Colliton's experimental time should be over.
Maybe I'm wrong maybe tomorrow we'll wake to the Hawks being a great team thanks to JC and his coaching methods. I think he has the players most coach's would love to posses. If he's going to do this thing now is the time. In my opinion time has run out.
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Post by tincup on Nov 6, 2019 10:44:48 GMT -6
I don’t know if I really have a list to be honest........I’m just as lost as anyone else The strongest argument can be made for Mark Crawford. He has led a similar team to the Stanley cup after all. The needed goal tenting is in place as well as a talented yet lost group of forwards. The defense is also similar albeit maybe not quite as good as the Avs. The bigger question is likely whether or not Brookbank might be ready to take the helm as a head coach. Still that would have to be considered an unneeded risk with Crawford being right there. There are others that could be considered people wanted in the organization like Mark Hunter. Though to I would see him as a tremendous Bowman replacement. I don't know Doogie. I'm not a fan of Crawford. He was obviously brought in as insurance and maybe as a conduit to the veteran players. He'd love to be a HC again. For all I know he's got some Machiavellian scheme to take over. He did win a cup that was set up after the Lindros trade and the Avs moved out of Quebec, and he had the venerated Quenneville as his assistant. Imagine Sakic and Forsberg in their primes. Below is Crawfords coaching history. There is some regular season success but his playoff performances are ridiculously bad. Coaching [notes]
Season Team Lge Type GP W L T OTL Pct Result
1989-90 Cornwall Royals OHL Head 66 24 38 4 0 0.394 Lost in round 1
1990-91 Cornwall Royals OHL Head 66 23 42 1 0 0.356 Out of Playoffs
1991-92 St. John's Maple Leafs AHL Head 80 39 29 12 0 0.563 Lost in Finals
1992-93 St. John's Maple Leafs AHL Head 80 41 26 13 0 0.594 Lost in round 2
1993-94 St. John's Maple Leafs AHL Head 80 45 23 12 0 0.638 Lost in round 2
1994-95 Quebec Nordiques NHL Head 48 30 13 5 0 0.677 Lost in round 1
1995-96 Colorado Avalanche NHL Head 82 47 25 10 0 0.634 Won Championship
1996-97 Colorado Avalanche NHL Head 82 49 24 9 0 0.652 Lost in round 3
1997-98 Colorado Avalanche NHL Head 82 39 26 17 0 0.579 Lost in round 1
1998-99 Vancouver Canucks NHL Head‡ 37 8 23 6 0 0.297 Out of Playoffs
1999-00 Vancouver Canucks NHL Head 82 30 29 15 8 0.506 Out of Playoffs
2000-01 Vancouver Canucks NHL Head 82 36 28 11 7 0.549 Lost in round 1
2001-02 Vancouver Canucks NHL Head 82 42 30 7 3 0.573 Lost in round 1
2002-03 Vancouver Canucks NHL Head 82 45 23 13 1 0.634 Lost in round 2
2003-04 Vancouver Canucks NHL Head 82 43 24 10 5 0.616 Lost in round 1
2005-06 Vancouver Canucks NHL Head 82 42 32 0 8 0.561 Out of Playoffs
2006-07 Los Angeles Kings NHL Head 82 27 41 0 14 0.415 Out of Playoffs
2007-08 Los Angeles Kings NHL Head 82 32 43 0 7 0.433 Out of Playoffs
2009-10 Dallas Stars NHL Head 82 37 31 0 14 0.537 Out of Playoffs
2010-11 Dallas Stars NHL Head 82 42 29 0 11 0.579 Out of Playoffs
2012-13 Zurich SC Swiss-A Head 50 31 16 0 3 0.650 Lost in round 2
2013-14 Zurich SC Swiss-A Head 50 33 9 0 8 0.740 Won Championship
2014-15 Zurich SC Swiss-A Head 50 30 10 0 10 0.700 Lost in Finals
2015-16 Zurich SC Swiss-A Head 50 31 12 0 7 0.690 Lost in round 1
2016-17 Ottawa Senators NHL Associate Lost in round 3
2017-18 Ottawa Senators NHL Associate Out of Playoffs
2018-19 Ottawa Senators NHL Associate†
2018-19 Ottawa Senators NHL Head‡ 18 7 10 0 1 0.417 Out of Playoffs
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Nov 6, 2019 14:34:47 GMT -6
This team is quite inexplicable. By all objective measures, this year's group of players is much better that last year's. Yet, the only noticeable improvement is in goal-tending, which stands on its own, and is not so much subject to JC's coaching. I think that the only rational thing to do is to let JC go.
The Shark announcers were correctly pointing out that the Hawks get trapped in their zone so badly because they are not anticipating. One has to believe that coaching is not there.
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Post by rinkrat21 on Nov 6, 2019 18:05:02 GMT -6
This team is quite inexplicable. By all objective measures, this year's group of players is much better that last year's. Yet, the only noticeable improvement is in goal-tending, which stands on its own, and is not so much subject to JC's coaching. I think that the only rational thing to do is to let JC go. The Shark announcers were correctly pointing out that the Hawks get trapped in their zone so badly because they are not anticipating. One has to believe that coaching is not there. Speaking of what the Sharks announcers said: 670thescore.radio.com/zawaski-blackhawks-should-fire-jeremy-colliton-organization-crossroadsKeith’s comments are interesting and expressing the same thing the Sharks announcers and a lot of other people are noticing. JC is not the answer and firing Q only to replace him with this guy is arguably the worst of SB’s many many boneheaded moves. This team is in a free fall and the only thing that can save them is if the ownership finally wakes up from their Stanley Cup hangover and make some significant changes in the front office. Until then, it’s gonna continue to be ugly. It really is shocking how the ownership actually believes SB is a good GM. He might be one of the worst of all time. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 6, 2019 18:28:24 GMT -6
This team is quite inexplicable. By all objective measures, this year's group of players is much better that last year's. Yet, the only noticeable improvement is in goal-tending, which stands on its own, and is not so much subject to JC's coaching. I think that the only rational thing to do is to let JC go. The Shark announcers were correctly pointing out that the Hawks get trapped in their zone so badly because they are not anticipating. One has to believe that coaching is not there. Speaking of what the Sharks announcers said: 670thescore.radio.com/zawaski-blackhawks-should-fire-jeremy-colliton-organization-crossroadsKeith’s comments are interesting and expressing the same thing the Sharks announcers and a lot of other people are noticing. JC is not the answer and firing Q only to replace him with this guy is arguably the worst of SB’s many many boneheaded moves. This team is in a free fall and the only thing that can save them is if the ownership finally wakes up from their Stanley Cup hangover and make some significant changes in the front office. Until then, it’s gonna continue to be ugly. It really is shocking how the ownership actually believes SB is a good GM. He might be one of the worst of all time. Hello rinkrat21, glad to see you got here for a post. Thanks!! |
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Nov 7, 2019 15:57:38 GMT -6
This team is quite inexplicable. By all objective measures, this year's group of players is much better that last year's. Yet, the only noticeable improvement is in goal-tending, which stands on its own, and is not so much subject to JC's coaching. I think that the only rational thing to do is to let JC go. The Shark announcers were correctly pointing out that the Hawks get trapped in their zone so badly because they are not anticipating. One has to believe that coaching is not there. Speaking of what the Sharks announcers said: 670thescore.radio.com/zawaski-blackhawks-should-fire-jeremy-colliton-organization-crossroadsKeith’s comments are interesting and expressing the same thing the Sharks announcers and a lot of other people are noticing. JC is not the answer and firing Q only to replace him with this guy is arguably the worst of SB’s many many boneheaded moves. This team is in a free fall and the only thing that can save them is if the ownership finally wakes up from their Stanley Cup hangover and make some significant changes in the front office. Until then, it’s gonna continue to be ugly. It really is shocking how the ownership actually believes SB is a good GM. He might be one of the worst of all time. Clearly, JC needs to go. The game with the Sharks was painful to watch. It is entirely possible that the team just does not want to play for him. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 15, 2019 10:25:16 GMT -6
Congrats Smith on getting your first points as a Hawk, career assists 100 and 101.
He's been playing much better lately, ever since he was huge on the pk and had a scoring chance.
And great interview by Dach after the win in Vegas, this "kid" is very professional and respectful of the elder skatesmen on the team.
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 15, 2019 11:03:45 GMT -6
Speaking of what the Sharks announcers said: 670thescore.radio.com/zawaski-blackhawks-should-fire-jeremy-colliton-organization-crossroadsKeith’s comments are interesting and expressing the same thing the Sharks announcers and a lot of other people are noticing. JC is not the answer and firing Q only to replace him with this guy is arguably the worst of SB’s many many boneheaded moves. This team is in a free fall and the only thing that can save them is if the ownership finally wakes up from their Stanley Cup hangover and make some significant changes in the front office. Until then, it’s gonna continue to be ugly. It really is shocking how the ownership actually believes SB is a good GM. He might be one of the worst of all time. Clearly, JC needs to go. The game with the Sharks was painful to watch. It is entirely possible that the team just does not want to play for him. If that is true, then I find this team to be an embarrasement to professional sports players. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 15, 2019 19:56:09 GMT -6
6 weeks into the season and we're a .500 club. 7-7-4
Why does it feel like this has been months so far?
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 17, 2019 0:14:37 GMT -6
Hawks and Hogs with big wins tonight and both go over .500, 8-7. Not good starts but they both had a big turnover after last season. They seem to be gelling now.
The first 17gms the Hawks D only scored 3 goals, they scored 4 in their last 2.
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Post by Tater on Nov 17, 2019 12:41:43 GMT -6
Whatever happened to Burish being on the intermission and pre/post game shows? Did he piss someone off? I always thought he was hilarious and told it like it is. Did he not tow the company line enough?
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