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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 17, 2019 12:54:36 GMT -6
Whatever happened to Burish being on the intermission and pre/post game shows? Did he piss someone off? I always thought he was hilarious and told it like it is. Did he not tow the company line enough? I think they're on a rotational system with Jammer. And whenever Sharpie isn't doing national stuff.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 17, 2019 20:13:35 GMT -6
Tick-tock I like Dach, his time is now I guess.
His composure, hands, and skating are elite level for a guy 6'4" almost 200lbs and only 18. Might be 200 now with the amount he's eating at Seabs 😁
I'm very impressed and I'm curious what "all the experts" are saying now. A poster on the old boards hated getting Lehner and was adamant that Kirby isn't ready and said "all the experts" say he's not ready.
He's producing on the 4th line with ZERO PP minutes. Shaw should be on the 4th line and Dach on the 3rd and play Kirby on the 2nd PP, him and Kubalik have chemistry.
There's no way Dach should be playing with two grinders. He needs at least one sniper or playmaker like himself.
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Post by tincup on Nov 17, 2019 20:53:31 GMT -6
Tick-tock I like Dach, his time is now I guess. His composure, hands, and skating are elite level for a guy 6'4" almost 200lbs and only 18. Might be 200 now with the amount he's eating at Seabs 😁 I'm very impressed and I'm curious what "all the experts" are saying now. A poster on the old boards hated getting Lehner and was adamant that Kirby isn't ready and said "all the experts" say he's not ready. He's producing on the 4th line with ZERO PP minutes. Shaw should be on the 4th line and Dach on the 3rd and play Kirby on the 2nd PP, him and Kubalik have chemistry. There's no way Dach should be playing with two grinders. He needs at least one sniper or playmaker like himself. He’ll get there eventually. I don’t mind the protected minutes they’ve been feeding him. Smith and Carpenter are two decent heavy lifters and Smith certainly was good with the deft passes tonight. If Dach pulls an extra shift here and there with the other lines I’m ok with that too.The team is winning, every night a different line are the heroes. Status quo I think until need requires it.
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Post by tincup on Nov 17, 2019 21:01:22 GMT -6
Actually I made a mistake earlier, I think we now have three, not two, in top ten rookie scoring.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 17, 2019 21:05:16 GMT -6
Tick-tock I like Dach, his time is now I guess. His composure, hands, and skating are elite level for a guy 6'4" almost 200lbs and only 18. Might be 200 now with the amount he's eating at Seabs 😁 I'm very impressed and I'm curious what "all the experts" are saying now. A poster on the old boards hated getting Lehner and was adamant that Kirby isn't ready and said "all the experts" say he's not ready. He's producing on the 4th line with ZERO PP minutes. Shaw should be on the 4th line and Dach on the 3rd and play Kirby on the 2nd PP, him and Kubalik have chemistry. There's no way Dach should be playing with two grinders. He needs at least one sniper or playmaker like himself. He’ll get there eventually. I don’t mind the protected minutes they’ve been feeding him. Smith and Carpenter are two decent heavy lifters and Smith certainly was good with the deft passes tonight. If Dach pulls an extra shift here and there with the other lines I’m ok with that too.The team is winning, every night a different line are the heroes. Status quo I think until need requires it. Yeah how can he not get there eventually, nice he had a shift with Kaner and Debrincat to try and get the hatrick. But with Shaw taking bad penalties and not scoring it's not a huge move. I like Smith and Carpenter, perfect 4th liners but they're grinders, Dach might've had an assist or two if he was playing with Kubalik tonight. Plus he sparked the PP after a long drought not long before he was a healthy scratch.
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 17, 2019 21:22:07 GMT -6
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Post by Tater on Nov 18, 2019 2:39:45 GMT -6
I don't mind Dach on the 4th line (for now) since it's clicking, but give him some power play time dammit. He can replace Nylander.
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Post by doogiew on Nov 18, 2019 5:27:21 GMT -6
I don't mind Dach on the 4th line (for now) since it's clicking, but give him some power play time dammit. He can replace Nylander.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 20, 2019 1:21:20 GMT -6
With an assist on Murphys goal Dach extends his point streak to 5gms and he's 1pt behind the Captain but only getting 4th line minutes and zero PP time, the coaches need to wake up. Nice to see him play a period with Kane and Debrincat, hopefully he stays. And give him some PP time.
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 20, 2019 8:03:42 GMT -6
Is the Shaw experiment over yet?
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Nov 20, 2019 11:59:56 GMT -6
Is the Shaw experiment over yet? Shaw has been underwhelming, but, honestly, I don't think that's his fault. There's something off about the whole team. Most nights. Sometimes they do decide to show up.
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 20, 2019 12:21:01 GMT -6
Is the Shaw experiment over yet? Shaw has been underwhelming, but, honestly, I don't think that's his fault. There's something off about the whole team. Most nights. Sometimes they do decide to show up. When D-Cat has more hits than Shaw in a game, then there is something wrong with Shaw.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 20, 2019 12:33:26 GMT -6
Is the Shaw experiment over yet? I'm thinking he has a concussion but he's hiding it, maybe time to sit him
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 21, 2019 0:11:09 GMT -6
Shaw didn't practice today because of his hip, might explain his drop in play.
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Post by jimakablkhwks918 on Dec 1, 2019 19:15:13 GMT -6
After this weekend, it's clear to me that this team is not good enough to make a legitimate playoff run. The otherworldly goaltending reverted to just solid, and the score finally revealed statistically how bad the overall defense is. Not sure much can be done during the season, but I'm interested to watch how it plays out, and how long the leashes are...
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Post by BigT on Dec 1, 2019 19:45:37 GMT -6
After this weekend, it's clear to me that this team is not good enough to make a legitimate playoff run. The otherworldly goaltending reverted to just solid, and the score finally revealed statistically how bad the overall defense is. Not sure much can be done during the season, but I'm interested to watch how it plays out, and how long the leashes are... I know anything can happen. But it’s really starting to look like we will have to jump on the grenade here soon and totally turn to the youth. I’m not too sure this is gonna work out. I think it’s best for the org to get set up for the next decade, and prepare to clean house. It’s just time. I think they should keep the core 4 and get rid of anything that’s not bolted down. I’m not sure carrying on like this is wise. I honestly feel we need to start looking towards the future and get a couple more high picks. Byfield, Perfetti, and of course Lafreniere are all franchise type players this year!!!
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Post by jimakablkhwks918 on Dec 2, 2019 9:04:01 GMT -6
After this weekend, it's clear to me that this team is not good enough to make a legitimate playoff run. The otherworldly goaltending reverted to just solid, and the score finally revealed statistically how bad the overall defense is. Not sure much can be done during the season, but I'm interested to watch how it plays out, and how long the leashes are... I know anything can happen. But it’s really starting to look like we will have to jump on the grenade here soon and totally turn to the youth. I’m not too sure this is gonna work out. I think it’s best for the org to get set up for the next decade, and prepare to clean house. It’s just time. I think they should keep the core 4 and get rid of anything that’s not bolted down. I’m not sure carrying on like this is wise. I honestly feel we need to start looking towards the future and get a couple more high picks. Byfield, Perfetti, and of course Lafreniere are all franchise type players this year!!! Who are your 4? Also, the 3 you mentioned are solid prospects, but nary a D man among them...going to need some real help at that position...
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 2, 2019 9:23:33 GMT -6
I know anything can happen. But it’s really starting to look like we will have to jump on the grenade here soon and totally turn to the youth. I’m not too sure this is gonna work out. I think it’s best for the org to get set up for the next decade, and prepare to clean house. It’s just time. I think they should keep the core 4 and get rid of anything that’s not bolted down. I’m not sure carrying on like this is wise. I honestly feel we need to start looking towards the future and get a couple more high picks. Byfield, Perfetti, and of course Lafreniere are all franchise type players this year!!! Who are your 4? Also, the 3 you mentioned are solid prospects, but nary a D man among them...going to need some real help at that position... I would think that would be, 2, 7, 19, 88. I would add 12 and 50 to the current "core".
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Post by hsbob on Dec 2, 2019 9:37:40 GMT -6
After this weekend, it's clear to me that this team is not good enough to make a legitimate playoff run. The otherworldly goaltending reverted to just solid, and the score finally revealed statistically how bad the overall defense is. Not sure much can be done during the season, but I'm interested to watch how it plays out, and how long the leashes are... I know anything can happen. But it’s really starting to look like we will have to jump on the grenade here soon and totally turn to the youth. I’m not too sure this is gonna work out. I think it’s best for the org to get set up for the next decade, and prepare to clean house. It’s just time. I think they should keep the core 4 and get rid of anything that’s not bolted down. I’m not sure carrying on like this is wise. I honestly feel we need to start looking towards the future and get a couple more high picks. Byfield, Perfetti, and of course Lafreniere are all franchise type players this year!!! Is there any way the FO can go this route after assuring the fanbase that they're a PO team the last few years and how would it justify firing a HoF coach? You know I respect the core as much as anyone but I don't see how keeping even two of the four works with a decade long rebuild except to keep the barn full and sell jerseys which is disingenuous in it's nature. Other teams bought out their high paid guys or ate salary to move em when they announced their rebuilds. If we're indeed gonna 'back up the truck',shouldn't Kane and Keith be moved for picks at or before the TDL? Should $$$ be retained to move Seabs or JT since we won't need the space for the next few years? Should one or both GT's be moved at or before the TDL for picks? Cheap FA goaltenders are always available on a year to year basis and this would give a Lankinen a shot to see if he's capable,I believe he's ready and could get stale. Do you move one of Maata or de Haan's salaries for a decent pick? Would you get a decent pick? Are Boqvist,Gilbert,Beaudin and Mitchell the real deal and when do we find that out? Why in the hell did they trade a 19yro NHL ready D-man for a project? I'm sorry but the only direction I see with the Hawks are people trying to save their jobs!
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Post by hsbob on Dec 2, 2019 9:40:05 GMT -6
Who are your 4? Also, the 3 you mentioned are solid prospects, but nary a D man among them...going to need some real help at that position... I would think that would be, 2, 7, 19, 88. I would add 12 and 50 to the current "core". Signing D-cat to that reasonable deal is one of the few positive things I'll give SB credit for over the last few years and CC's either gone or stays for a lot less $$$.
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 2, 2019 10:00:38 GMT -6
I would think that would be, 2, 7, 19, 88. I would add 12 and 50 to the current "core". Signing D-cat to that reasonable deal is one of the few positive things I'll give SB credit for over the last few years and CC's either gone or stays for a lot less $$$. I had said on another post that they should sign Lehner to be #1 and hope that Cory takes a well reduced pay and back-up roll. Many said he wouldn't do that and would sign elsewhere. I say, Thank you Cory for your years of exceptional goaltending and bye. Now what are they going to offer to Lehner is the question and WHEN should they make this offer. Will Lehner say wait till end of season and test the market, that would knock the Hawks right out of contention for him. They are too bloated with Dmen contracts, 4.979359 average between the top 5 Dmen. Which would be fine if they were all-star caliber.
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Post by hsbob on Dec 2, 2019 10:42:36 GMT -6
Signing D-cat to that reasonable deal is one of the few positive things I'll give SB credit for over the last few years and CC's either gone or stays for a lot less $$$. I had said on another post that they should sign Lehner to be #1 and hope that Cory takes a well reduced pay and back-up roll. Many said he wouldn't do that and would sign elsewhere. I say, Thank you Cory for your years of exceptional goaltending and bye. Now what are they going to offer to Lehner is the question and WHEN should they make this offer. Will Lehner say wait till end of season and test the market, that would knock the Hawks right out of contention for him. They are too bloated with Dmen contracts, 4.979359 average between the top 5 Dmen. Which would be fine if they were all-star caliber. I don't know why anyone thinks Lehner doesn't test the market,he hasn't made a fortune playing Hockey up to this point. I also don't know why he'd be interested in playing for a team in disarray. If he wants 7-8M,I say thanks for the ONE year of exceptional goaltending and bye. The FO knew they had around 12.5M tied up in two aging D-men this summer when they decided to trade a young,cheap D-man and sign two average D-men without speed for another 8.6M...…..yikes! These are self inflicted wounds my friend.
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 2, 2019 10:50:18 GMT -6
I had said on another post that they should sign Lehner to be #1 and hope that Cory takes a well reduced pay and back-up roll. Many said he wouldn't do that and would sign elsewhere. I say, Thank you Cory for your years of exceptional goaltending and bye. Now what are they going to offer to Lehner is the question and WHEN should they make this offer. Will Lehner say wait till end of season and test the market, that would knock the Hawks right out of contention for him. They are too bloated with Dmen contracts, 4.979359 average between the top 5 Dmen. Which would be fine if they were all-star caliber. I don't know why anyone thinks Lehner doesn't test the market,he hasn't made a fortune playing Hockey up to this point. I also don't know why he'd be interested in playing for a team in disarray. If he wants 7-8M,I say thanks for the ONE year of exceptional goaltending and bye. The FO knew they had around 12.5M tied up in two aging D-men this summer when they decided to trade a young,cheap D-man and sign two average D-men without speed for another 8.6M...…..yikes! These are self inflicted wounds my friend. Total agreement and that was my point over the summer. Instead of building on what they finished last half of the season, they crushed it to the ground. It was almost like they didn't really want the team to improve.
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Post by hsbob on Dec 2, 2019 11:05:34 GMT -6
I don't know why anyone thinks Lehner doesn't test the market,he hasn't made a fortune playing Hockey up to this point. I also don't know why he'd be interested in playing for a team in disarray. If he wants 7-8M,I say thanks for the ONE year of exceptional goaltending and bye. The FO knew they had around 12.5M tied up in two aging D-men this summer when they decided to trade a young,cheap D-man and sign two average D-men without speed for another 8.6M...…..yikes! These are self inflicted wounds my friend. Total agreement and that was my point over the summer. Instead of building on what they finished last half of the season, they crushed it to the ground. It was almost like they didn't really want the team to improve. Since they're all in 'save my own ass' mode,I'm sure they wanted to improve the team...…..whether they know how to improve the team is another question. Why not take a run at the 27yro,right shot Faulk since he's been on the block for some time instead of two redundant lefties with little speed if we're gonna deal with the Canes. He makes 2M less than those two combined after the extension and could the Canes not live without Edmundson. Would 6M for five years for Myers have made more sense than 8.6M for three years of Maata and deHaan. A big,physical,right shot with a PP canon and a manageable five year term.
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 2, 2019 11:30:18 GMT -6
Total agreement and that was my point over the summer. Instead of building on what they finished last half of the season, they crushed it to the ground. It was almost like they didn't really want the team to improve. Since they're all in 'save my own ass' mode,I'm sure they wanted to improve the team...…..whether they know how to improve the team is another question. Why not take a run at the 27yro,right shot Faulk since he's been on the block for some time instead of two redundant lefties with little speed if we're gonna deal with the Canes. He makes 2M less than those two combined after the extension and could the Canes not live without Edmundson. Would 6M for five years for Myers have made more sense than 8.6M for three years of Maata and deHaan. A big,physical,right shot with a PP canon and a manageable five year term.
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Post by BigT on Dec 2, 2019 17:47:07 GMT -6
I know anything can happen. But it’s really starting to look like we will have to jump on the grenade here soon and totally turn to the youth. I’m not too sure this is gonna work out. I think it’s best for the org to get set up for the next decade, and prepare to clean house. It’s just time. I think they should keep the core 4 and get rid of anything that’s not bolted down. I’m not sure carrying on like this is wise. I honestly feel we need to start looking towards the future and get a couple more high picks. Byfield, Perfetti, and of course Lafreniere are all franchise type players this year!!! Is there any way the FO can go this route after assuring the fanbase that they're a PO team the last few years and how would it justify firing a HoF coach? You know I respect the core as much as anyone but I don't see how keeping even two of the four works with a decade long rebuild except to keep the barn full and sell jerseys which is disingenuous in it's nature. Other teams bought out their high paid guys or ate salary to move em when they announced their rebuilds. If we're indeed gonna 'back up the truck',shouldn't Kane and Keith be moved for picks at or before the TDL? Should $$$ be retained to move Seabs or JT since we won't need the space for the next few years? Should one or both GT's be moved at or before the TDL for picks? Cheap FA goaltenders are always available on a year to year basis and this would give a Lankinen a shot to see if he's capable,I believe he's ready and could get stale. Do you move one of Maata or de Haan's salaries for a decent pick? Would you get a decent pick? Are Boqvist,Gilbert,Beaudin and Mitchell the real deal and when do we find that out? Why in the hell did they trade a 19yro NHL ready D-man for a project? I'm sorry but the only direction I see with the Hawks are people trying to save their jobs! I can’t really argue that. I’m not against blowing it up. I would have to think that the team can’t afford the trading or buyouts of the core 4. Van didn’t trade away the twins and they’re back on the mend. I don’t think we’re that far behind in a rebuild. Whether we like it or not, we’re in year 3 of a 5-6 year rebuild. I would highly suggest that we trade away both de Haan and Maatta. I’d bet we could get a lot for Lehner at the TDL. I think we could get a couple extra first rounders and a couple second rounders in trades this year witch would help speed up the process of at a minimal stop it from going sideways. I still think we should keep Toews and Kane. I feel it would alienate the fan base and they’d disappear. I think it’s best to let them at least finish their contracts here. If the price was right, I’d definitely re-sign them. But if we were to luck out and get Lafreniere or Byfield in this years draft, I wouldn’t really want to pay Toews as my 4th line center. This is another good year to tank. Lafreniere, Byfield and Perfetti are all very good and amazing players. Just look up their stats for 17 year olds. It’s very tough to do what they’re doing as 18 or 19 year olds. It’s very tough to get the right mix of kids. So I think the time to strike is now. It’s best to get a real hockey guy in here to tell McD to F**^ off and do the right things. Stan had his time, now let’s move on from that era. I also agree that watching people save their jobs is getting old and boring. Just missing the playoffs is detrimental to this team. It’s either make them or tear it down!!!
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Post by BigT on Dec 2, 2019 17:51:54 GMT -6
Here’s a pic of Cole Perfetti taking some time with my son (far left) and some kids from our team. He’s a good kid and a sniper. I know his parents, they still host tourneys and still run them even though he’s grown up and moved on!!! Attachments:
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Post by T-man2010 on Dec 2, 2019 19:00:12 GMT -6
Here’s a pic of Cole Perfetti taking some time with my son (far left) and some kids from our team. He’s a good kid and a sniper. I know his parents, they still host tourneys and still run them even though he’s grown up and moved on!!! He looks 10 yrs. old.
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Post by BigT on Dec 2, 2019 20:01:10 GMT -6
Here’s a pic of Cole Perfetti taking some time with my son (far left) and some kids from our team. He’s a good kid and a sniper. I know his parents, they still host tourneys and still run them even though he’s grown up and moved on!!! He looks 10 yrs. old. Ya, he doesn’t look very old at all. My son is 8. And I think he can take Cole. But the kid is a super sniper, and I don’t mean Cole!!!
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Post by jimakablkhwks918 on Dec 2, 2019 20:22:58 GMT -6
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