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Post by mvr on Jul 1, 2022 13:23:28 GMT -6
There is also no guarantee that Debrincat maintains his present scoring production.
He could get injured. He might age out young. He might not respond well to the intensity and physicality of pressure games and the playoffs. Nothing is guaranteed. We just don't know.
In the short term, Debrincat likely will score. The issue is his production measured against his contract five or six years from now (when the Hawks hopefully will be competitive).
This is as much an "unknown" as anything else. Signing any player to a long term deal is a big gamble. Signing one at the early stages of a rebuild is a major (and to my mind, unnecessary) risk. Too much can go wrong.
It makes more sense to spread out the risk, add more young prospects using the same cap space, and maintain that roster flexibility.
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Post by hsbob on Jul 2, 2022 8:15:57 GMT -6
Depends how close a team is....'a bird in hand is worth two in the bush'......unless all those top-end prospects are guaranteed to be better than Alex DeBrincat. No guarantees my friend with future picks for sure and to a certain degree prospects as well. And I understand the strength in numbers as well when it comes to acquiring these BADLY needed top picks and prospects and I know our few good players will have to go to acquire them. I was responding to your assertions that KD has "set a ridiculous asking price" and "team's won't give up their top prospects" .....I guess we'll see pretty soon now.
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Post by hsbob on Jul 2, 2022 8:28:38 GMT -6
There is also no guarantee that Debrincat maintains his present scoring production. He could get injured. He might age out young. He might not respond well to the intensity and physicality of pressure games and the playoffs. Nothing is guaranteed. We just don't know. In the short term, Debrincat likely will score. The issue is his production measured against his contract five or six years from now (when the Hawks hopefully will be competitive). This is as much an "unknown" as anything else. Signing any player to a long term deal is a big gamble. Signing one at the early stages of a rebuild is a major (and to my mind, unnecessary) risk. Too much can go wrong. It makes more sense to spread out the risk, add more young prospects using the same cap space, and maintain that roster flexibility. Forecasting a 24yro player's future performance who's proven elite ability and durability to the point of not missing a single game to injury for five consecutive seasons gives you pause? REALLY? Nothing is guaranteed.......for the 18yro yet to step foot on NHL ice.....ABSOLUTELY! Once again mvr.......what more do you want out of this kid for Christ's sake? You're faulting him for FUTURE deteriorating play and injuries he's shown zero sign of because you have nothing else to fault him for.....you're reaching here....again! The odds are MUCH better he'll go on to an outstanding NHL career but I guess a guy can dream.
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Post by steamer on Jul 2, 2022 8:36:48 GMT -6
I agree - few things in the NHL are as certain as D-cat will continue to produce at a high level. Another is Kane will produce at a point per game rate regardless of who he's paired with or how good his team is. I also do understand that a (successful) rebuild requires obtaining a number of high picks and right now the only way for the Hawks to do that is to dangle what little talent they have out there. But I hope KD maintains his high requirements for these already established "can't miss" players.
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Post by hsbob on Jul 2, 2022 9:18:31 GMT -6
I agree - few things in the NHL are as certain as D-cat will continue to produce at a high level. Another is Kane will produce at a point per game rate regardless of who he's paired with or how good his team is. I also do understand that a (successful) rebuild requires obtaining a number of high picks and right now the only way for the Hawks to do that is to dangle what little talent they have out there. But I hope KD maintains his high requirements for these already established "can't miss" players. There's no easy answers here steamer,just REAL tough questions.
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Post by steamer on Jul 2, 2022 9:22:37 GMT -6
I agree - few things in the NHL are as certain as D-cat will continue to produce at a high level. Another is Kane will produce at a point per game rate regardless of who he's paired with or how good his team is. I also do understand that a (successful) rebuild requires obtaining a number of high picks and right now the only way for the Hawks to do that is to dangle what little talent they have out there. But I hope KD maintains his high requirements for these already established "can't miss" players. There's no easy answers here steamer,just REAL tough questions. It's been said 1000 times so here's #1001: Thanks DUMBASS!!!
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 2, 2022 12:04:36 GMT -6
There is also no guarantee that Debrincat maintains his present scoring production. He could get injured. He might age out young. He might not respond well to the intensity and physicality of pressure games and the playoffs. Nothing is guaranteed. We just don't know. In the short term, Debrincat likely will score. The issue is his production measured against his contract five or six years from now (when the Hawks hopefully will be competitive). This is as much an "unknown" as anything else. Signing any player to a long term deal is a big gamble. Signing one at the early stages of a rebuild is a major (and to my mind, unnecessary) risk. Too much can go wrong. It makes more sense to spread out the risk, add more young prospects using the same cap space, and maintain that roster flexibility. Forecasting a 24yro player's future performance who's proven elite ability and durability to the point of not missing a single game to injury for five consecutive seasons gives you pause? REALLY? Nothing is guaranteed.......for the 18yro yet to step foot on NHL ice.....ABSOLUTELY! Once again mvr.......what more do you want out of this kid for Christ's sake? You're faulting him for FUTURE deteriorating play and injuries he's shown zero sign of because you have nothing else to fault him for.....you're reaching here....again! The odds are MUCH better he'll go on to an outstanding NHL career but I guess a guy can dream. He has to change position, grow 5 more inches, keep his scoring pace but only ask for 7m
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Post by nighbor on Jul 26, 2022 11:14:51 GMT -6
I would like to congratulate KD on his performance as GM. He may lack experience but that has not held him back in his dealing with the more experienced ones. To my mind at least he has yet to lose one but time will tell.
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Post by steamer on Jul 26, 2022 12:43:01 GMT -6
I would like to congratulate KD on his performance as GM. He may lack experience but that has not held him back in his dealing with the more experienced ones. To my mind at least he has yet to lose one but time will tell. I agree on KD so far. I suppose we all want the first 3 picks of the next 3 drafts but neither he nor anyone else can manufacture assets when there are limited things to bargain with. We will second guess him (I sure will) by asking if he could have cut better deals here and there and questioning some decisions. It's still the first inning of the "rebuild" and it is painful to watch these last parts of the teardown at times but he is doing what he said he would do.
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Post by 2old4this on Jul 26, 2022 13:21:47 GMT -6
And a truly brilliant plan it is. You can't fire him until he's had 7-8 seasons under his belt, and more likely 10. I like most of the things he has done, so I'm optimistic about this plan. Knock on wood.
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 26, 2022 13:25:53 GMT -6
I would like to congratulate KD on his performance as GM. He may lack experience but that has not held him back in his dealing with the more experienced ones. To my mind at least he has yet to lose one but time will tell. I didnt like two, the Dcat and the taking on Mrazek contract to climb 13 spots in the draft. He couldnt ask for at least another pick? And if someone tells me that they really like Mrazek, then i’ll highly doubt the talent evaluation in this group
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Post by T-man2010 on Jul 26, 2022 13:58:59 GMT -6
I would like to congratulate KD on his performance as GM. He may lack experience but that has not held him back in his dealing with the more experienced ones. To my mind at least he has yet to lose one but time will tell. I didnt like two, the Dcat and the taking on Mrazek contract to climb 13 spots in the draft. He couldnt ask for at least another pick? And if someone tells me that they really like Mrazek, then i’ll highly doubt the talent evaluation in this group Nobody is thinking Mrazek is the future. Just need him to hang the "L"'s on his record. You need a mediocre goalie(s) to just get through 2-3 seasons. Then see if your prospects are developing enough to be the future.
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 26, 2022 15:26:18 GMT -6
I didnt like two, the Dcat and the taking on Mrazek contract to climb 13 spots in the draft. He couldnt ask for at least another pick? And if someone tells me that they really like Mrazek, then i’ll highly doubt the talent evaluation in this group Nobody is thinking Mrazek is the future. Just need him to hang the "L"'s on his record. You need a mediocre goalie(s) to just get through 2-3 seasons. Then see if your prospects are developing enough to be the future. So climb 13 spots to take on that contract. Thats not a win to me
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 26, 2022 15:36:22 GMT -6
Nobody is thinking Mrazek is the future. Just need him to hang the "L"'s on his record. You need a mediocre goalie(s) to just get through 2-3 seasons. Then see if your prospects are developing enough to be the future. So climb 13 spots to take on that contract. Thats not a win to me Why not? Hawks have a lot of cap space and they moved up to get a big right handed dman they wanted.
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 26, 2022 15:54:36 GMT -6
So climb 13 spots to take on that contract. Thats not a win to me Why not? Hawks have a lot of cap space and they moved up to steal a big right handed dman the Blues wanted. Yup still not a win. The guy picked after him or what toronto picked for that second rounder probably have the same potential as the guy they traded and took on a contract for.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 26, 2022 16:53:52 GMT -6
Why not? Hawks have a lot of cap space and they moved up to steal a big right handed dman the Blues wanted. Yup still not a win. The guy picked after him or what toronto picked for that second rounder probably have the same potential as the guy they traded and took on a contract for. That's your opinion and time will tell. It's not like Mrazek has a huge contract with a lot of years left.
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 26, 2022 17:26:57 GMT -6
Yup still not a win. The guy picked after him or what toronto picked for that second rounder probably have the same potential as the guy they traded and took on a contract for. That's your opinion and time will tell. It's not like Mrazek has a huge contract with a lot of years left. Definitely just my opinion and yup time will tell with these draft picks. Would have been better if there was another one. Must have been nice for a cap-strapped team to unload a shit contract with a lousy player and the cost is just drafting down 13 spots.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 26, 2022 17:43:15 GMT -6
That's your opinion and time will tell. It's not like Mrazek has a huge contract with a lot of years left. Definitely just my opinion and yup time will tell with these draft picks. Would have been better if there was another one. Must have been nice for a cap-strapped team to unload a shit contract with a lousy player and the cost is just drafting down 13 spots. Mrazek had a bad season because of an injury but he's not a lousy player and he doesn't have a shit contract, maybe for the Leafs but definitely not for the Hawks. Normally when a team moves up they have to give up something else but they never and got a goalie to replace Lanks and Delia.
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Post by Nikos on Jul 26, 2022 18:39:08 GMT -6
He should have gotten another pick from Leafs or asked them to take the later second round pick. He certainly helped them get Murray from the Sens. As everyone has opined time will tell how he did, on paper he has elevated our prospect pool.
Let's see how he handles 19 & 88 moving forward. Hopefully Domi and Athanisou have good years and he can dump them for more picks and lets move Murphy before he gets hurt again.
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Post by squishy24 on Jul 26, 2022 21:47:12 GMT -6
Definitely just my opinion and yup time will tell with these draft picks. Would have been better if there was another one. Must have been nice for a cap-strapped team to unload a shit contract with a lousy player and the cost is just drafting down 13 spots. Mrazek had a bad season because of an injury but he's not a lousy player and he doesn't have a shit contract, maybe for the Leafs but definitely not for the Hawks. Normally when a team moves up they have to give up something else but they never and got a goalie to replace Lanks and Delia. You’ll see how bad Mrazek is. Injury was just a convenient excuse. i dont really follow or care about draft picks projections or potentials, how accurate are they? Especially after the first 10 or 20 picks? But it would have been a better trade if we did get another pick. I wonder if Anaheim would have taken Connelly, they need a winger. Maybe they would have accepted him if KD offered a 13 spot improvement in the draft
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Post by BigT on Jul 26, 2022 22:09:27 GMT -6
Mrazek had a bad season because of an injury but he's not a lousy player and he doesn't have a shit contract, maybe for the Leafs but definitely not for the Hawks. Normally when a team moves up they have to give up something else but they never and got a goalie to replace Lanks and Delia. You’ll see how bad Mrazek is. Injury was just a convenient excuse. i dont really follow or care about draft picks projections or potentials, how accurate are they? Especially after the first 10 or 20 picks? But it would have been a better trade if we did get another pick. I wonder if Anaheim would have taken Connelly, they need a winger. Maybe they would have accepted him if KD offered a 13 spot improvement in the draft They can have Connelly for league minimum now. And they aren’t knocking on his door. I don’t think Mrazek is really that bad. Be got his balls kicked in a couple years back in Carolina. He probably won’t play that much. But he’s got a chance to set himself up for the future. He will be trade bait if he plays, and plays well. He’s an absolute bargain at 3.5. And all he needs is a good save %. Nothing else. If he’s above .900. He’ll be a good trade commodity!!!
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Post by jaty84 on Jul 27, 2022 0:15:24 GMT -6
Regarding Mrazek or any other goalie the Hawks will use next season, his numbers will be bad, very bad. For next seasons Mrazek or his clones will be perfect fit for Hawks.
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Post by T-man2010 on Jul 27, 2022 10:01:43 GMT -6
You’ll see how bad Mrazek is. Injury was just a convenient excuse. i dont really follow or care about draft picks projections or potentials, how accurate are they? Especially after the first 10 or 20 picks? But it would have been a better trade if we did get another pick. I wonder if Anaheim would have taken Connelly, they need a winger. Maybe they would have accepted him if KD offered a 13 spot improvement in the draft They can have Connelly for league minimum now. And they aren’t knocking on his door. I don’t think Mrazek is really that bad. Be got his balls kicked in a couple years back in Carolina. He probably won’t play that much. But he’s got a chance to set himself up for the future. He will be trade bait if he plays, and plays well. He’s an absolute bargain at 3.5. And all he needs is a good save %. Nothing else. If he’s above .900. He’ll be a good trade commodity!!! That really is all he needs, his GAA will suck because he will be getting hammered about 30-40 SOG's a game.
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Post by hsbob on Jul 27, 2022 10:12:22 GMT -6
The return on the four big trades has been considered good to very good by most 'experts' as it should be when you move a 23yro 25 goal scorer,a 24yro all-star,a Vezina winner and a 21yro #3 overall. Getting nothing for Strome and Kubalik seems less then productive to me,trading players that the league isn't drooling over will be required at some point. A perennial PO team with negative cap space figured 25yro Strome was worth 3.5 and 26yro Kubalik signed a 2.5M 2 year on opening day. Kubalik's 30 goal season three years ago came in only 68gms,his second Covid shortened 56gm season saw a 26/56 pace and his disappointing year last year still saw 15/32 with plenty of bottom six time and a few healthy scratches.......this player has zero value? He shoulda been put back with JT and LEFT with JT in hopes of better numbers and trade value alone.......throw in a hard working,talented Hagel and all their numbers coulda been better along with their value. Same with Kane,Strome,D-Cat......if those boys were together all year,we'd of saw some reaL BIG NUMBERS and once again......bigger trade values. Carpenter and deHAAN with $$$ retained are worth nothing at the TDL? Preds signed Lankinen to back up Saros.....he had zero value too?
Nobody's very high on the prospects left by the last guy so why not include a Beaudin with a Strome or a Kubalik for maybe a 2nd in a deep draft? Room will have to be made for the many draft picks to come,will the less sought after prospects just walk away for nothing too?
Trading players the entire league isn't drooling over will be required at some point.
Why buyout and waste a retained money spot on a 24yro player making 800K.........to bring back Sukura? I'm no Borgstrom fan but which of these two players has a better chance of still being a NHL player?
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Post by phill9 on Jul 27, 2022 10:53:19 GMT -6
They can have Connelly for league minimum now. And they aren’t knocking on his door. I don’t think Mrazek is really that bad. Be got his balls kicked in a couple years back in Carolina. He probably won’t play that much. But he’s got a chance to set himself up for the future. He will be trade bait if he plays, and plays well. He’s an absolute bargain at 3.5. And all he needs is a good save %. Nothing else. If he’s above .900. He’ll be a good trade commodity!!! That really is all he needs, his GAA will suck because he will be getting hammered about 30-40 SOG's a game. 30-40 a game? Hell, even with a much better team then we will see this coming season gave up 33 in a period. Hawks may break NHL records for shots in a period and shots in a game.
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Post by mvr on Jul 27, 2022 11:23:21 GMT -6
The return on the four big trades has been considered good to very good by most 'experts' as it should be when you move a 23yro 25 goal scorer,a 24yro all-star,a Vezina winner and a 21yro #3 overall. Getting nothing for Strome and Kubalik seems less then productive to me,trading players that the league isn't drooling over will be required at some point. A perennial PO team with negative cap space figured 25yro Strome was worth 3.5 and 26yro Kubalik signed a 2.5M 2 year on opening day. Kubalik's 30 goal season three years ago came in only 68gms,his second Covid shortened 56gm season saw a 26/56 pace and his disappointing year last year still saw 15/32 with plenty of bottom six time and a few healthy scratches.......this player has zero value? He shoulda been put back with JT and LEFT with JT in hopes of better numbers and trade value alone.......throw in a hard working,talented Hagel and all their numbers coulda been better along with their value. Same with Kane,Strome,D-Cat......if those boys were together all year,we'd of saw some reaL BIG NUMBERS and once again......bigger trade values. Carpenter and deHAAN with $$$ retained are worth nothing at the TDL? Preds signed Lankinen to back up Saros.....he had zero value too? Nobody's very high on the prospects left by the last guy so why not include a Beaudin with a Strome or a Kubalik for maybe a 2nd in a deep draft? Room will have to be made for the many draft picks to come,will the less sought after prospects just walk away for nothing too? Trading players the entire league isn't drooling over will be required at some point. Why buyout and waste a retained money spot on a 24yro player making 800K.........to bring back Sukura? I'm no Borgstrom fan but which of these two players has a better chance of still being a NHL player? If Davidson kept Strome and Kubalik, he would have to pay each at bare minimum their qualifying offers ($3.6 M + 4 M). No team wanted either player in trades, but we know now two teams will sign them for free. With Strome, the general manager would likely have to win at arbitration to keep the salary at that price. Instead, he used most of this money to sign Domi and Athanasiou - each at much lower prices, each likely to deliver at bare minimum similar if not superior trade returns next year. He also picked up a third line centre and backup goalie. Regarding Borgstrom - my guess is that the Hawks tired of the player's attitude and believed he would not be a good fit in Rockford. It was a gamble to trade for him, and it did not work out. Time to cut bait. Regarding trade deadline - The problem here is that the Hawks already had two players traded with retention (Maata and Fleury). They were only permitted three. They were dangling several players at the deadline, and they could only use the cap retention feature one more time. For this reason, they waited until the last possible opportunity to do so. My feeling is that the general manager had some additional deals on the table, but he overvalued his trade commodities. DeHaan should have been worth something at half price, but so should Strome and Kubalik.
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Post by T-man2010 on Jul 27, 2022 12:08:33 GMT -6
That really is all he needs, his GAA will suck because he will be getting hammered about 30-40 SOG's a game. 30-40 a game? Hell, even with a much better team then we will see this coming season gave up 33 in a period. Hawks may break NHL records for shots in a period and shots in a game. They averaged 32.7 per game last year. That was 4 goalies with 2684 SA divided by 82 games.
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Post by nighbor on Jul 27, 2022 12:24:56 GMT -6
I would like to congratulate KD on his performance as GM. He may lack experience but that has not held him back in his dealing with the more experienced ones. To my mind at least he has yet to lose one but time will tell. I didnt like two, the Dcat and the taking on Mrazek contract to climb 13 spots in the draft. He couldnt ask for at least another pick? And if someone tells me that they really like Mrazek, then i’ll highly doubt the talent evaluation in this group Dcat because of his contract status was a rental therefore no feeding frenzy. KD being committed to the rebuild took the best deal possible. Taking on Mrazek's contract was a small price to pay to move up 13 spots to get the player you wanted that you believed would not be there when you picked. Bob McKenzie one of best had Rinzel at #31 and our pick was #38. Our HC called Rinzel "a real good steal". It also put KD back into the good graces of KD the Toronto GM.
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Post by hsbob on Jul 27, 2022 12:46:27 GMT -6
The return on the four big trades has been considered good to very good by most 'experts' as it should be when you move a 23yro 25 goal scorer,a 24yro all-star,a Vezina winner and a 21yro #3 overall. Getting nothing for Strome and Kubalik seems less then productive to me,trading players that the league isn't drooling over will be required at some point. A perennial PO team with negative cap space figured 25yro Strome was worth 3.5 and 26yro Kubalik signed a 2.5M 2 year on opening day. Kubalik's 30 goal season three years ago came in only 68gms,his second Covid shortened 56gm season saw a 26/56 pace and his disappointing year last year still saw 15/32 with plenty of bottom six time and a few healthy scratches.......this player has zero value? He shoulda been put back with JT and LEFT with JT in hopes of better numbers and trade value alone.......throw in a hard working,talented Hagel and all their numbers coulda been better along with their value. Same with Kane,Strome,D-Cat......if those boys were together all year,we'd of saw some reaL BIG NUMBERS and once again......bigger trade values. Carpenter and deHAAN with $$$ retained are worth nothing at the TDL? Preds signed Lankinen to back up Saros.....he had zero value too? Nobody's very high on the prospects left by the last guy so why not include a Beaudin with a Strome or a Kubalik for maybe a 2nd in a deep draft? Room will have to be made for the many draft picks to come,will the less sought after prospects just walk away for nothing too? Trading players the entire league isn't drooling over will be required at some point. Why buyout and waste a retained money spot on a 24yro player making 800K.........to bring back Sukura? I'm no Borgstrom fan but which of these two players has a better chance of still being a NHL player? If Davidson kept Strome and Kubalik, he would have to pay each at bare minimum their qualifying offers ($3.6 M + 4 M). No team wanted either player in trades, but we know now two teams will sign them for free. With Strome, the general manager would likely have to win at arbitration to keep the salary at that price. Instead, he used most of this money to sign Domi and Athanasiou - each at much lower prices, each likely to deliver at bare minimum similar if not superior trade returns next year. He also picked up a third line centre and backup goalie. Regarding Borgstrom - my guess is that the Hawks tired of the player's attitude and believed he would not be a good fit in Rockford. It was a gamble to trade for him, and it did not work out. Time to cut bait. Regarding trade deadline - The problem here is that the Hawks already had two players traded with retention (Maata and Fleury). They were only permitted three. They were dangling several players at the deadline, and they could only use the cap retention feature one more time. For this reason, they waited until the last possible opportunity to do so. My feeling is that the general manager had some additional deals on the table, but he overvalued his trade commodities. DeHaan should have been worth something at half price, but so should Strome and Kubalik. AA's a 27yro center who's won 43% of his career draws and has 32 total goals and 34 assists the last three season since his 'lightning in a bottle' year,he only dressed for 28gms last year......was he hurt or scratched? Good luck either way. Teams can't get rid of 1st round flop Max Domi fast enough,there was obviously no interest in this player at the TDL either........37 goals combined in the three years since his own 'lightning in a bottle season'. So for 1.6M,the cap loaded team keeps two younger,better players for one year familiar to the fans who might be flipped for something later. Maybe Borgstron's attitude was so bad he couldn't even be in Rockford(called that one!)but why waste a retention spot that you said yourself is so important,the team could just release and pay him to go to Europe instead of assigning him to Rockford I believe.
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Post by mvr on Jul 27, 2022 14:37:20 GMT -6
If Davidson kept Strome and Kubalik, he would have to pay each at bare minimum their qualifying offers ($3.6 M + 4 M). No team wanted either player in trades, but we know now two teams will sign them for free. With Strome, the general manager would likely have to win at arbitration to keep the salary at that price. Instead, he used most of this money to sign Domi and Athanasiou - each at much lower prices, each likely to deliver at bare minimum similar if not superior trade returns next year. He also picked up a third line centre and backup goalie. Regarding Borgstrom - my guess is that the Hawks tired of the player's attitude and believed he would not be a good fit in Rockford. It was a gamble to trade for him, and it did not work out. Time to cut bait. Regarding trade deadline - The problem here is that the Hawks already had two players traded with retention (Maata and Fleury). They were only permitted three. They were dangling several players at the deadline, and they could only use the cap retention feature one more time. For this reason, they waited until the last possible opportunity to do so. My feeling is that the general manager had some additional deals on the table, but he overvalued his trade commodities. DeHaan should have been worth something at half price, but so should Strome and Kubalik. AA's a 27yro center who's won 43% of his career draws and has 32 total goals and 34 assists the last three season since his 'lightning in a bottle' year,he only dressed for 28gms last year......was he hurt or scratched? Good luck either way. Teams can't get rid of 1st round flop Max Domi fast enough,there was obviously no interest in this player at the TDL either........37 goals combined in the three years since his own 'lightning in a bottle season'. So for 1.6M,the cap loaded team keeps two younger,better players for one year familiar to the fans who might be flipped for something later. Maybe Borgstron's attitude was so bad he couldn't even be in Rockford(called that one!)but why waste a retention spot that you said yourself is so important,the team could just release and pay him to go to Europe instead of assigning him to Rockford I believe. There is no limit to buy outs, so the Hawks are ok with Borgstrom. The only issue is the minimal cap space lost. No big deal. The problem comes with salary being retained in a trade. There are only 3 spots available to use. As it stands, two are likely committed (Toews and Kane). The Hawks can afford to take back bad contracts, but likely do not want to do that. AA and Domi are likely worth 3rd or 4th round picks next spring without retaining salary. Do you really think Kubalik (at $4 M) or Strome (at $3.6 M plus) would get more? I don't. The Hawks could not find a dance partner for either this year. With bigger salaries, it would be even tougher to trade them.
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