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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 18, 2022 14:40:01 GMT -6
Let me get this straight you guys,centers and D-men aren't more importent than 24yro 35.6 goals a year wingers? Or just this one? 18yro wingers are because they're bigger? Wake me TF up next time we draft a 40 goal a year guy and I'll climb back on board too! And for the record,I'm good with trading the kid because there's nothing he can do here except help the team win more games than they need to. Does Kane stay when D-Cat's moved? Probably not but most seem done with him too. Does JT stay?.....ditto. Does the team keep Strome w/o any of the other three and why would they? Let's say MAF's 7M and deHAAH-job's 4.4M is obviously gone and D-Cat's 6.5M is gone and Strome's 3M is gone and we retain around 10M moving K&T.....now get me to the cap-floor. Put some asses in the building while your at it. We've been wanting a powerforward on the top6 for a long time and Slafkovsky is huge with the potential to be a 40 goal scorer, plus 6yrs younger. I'm a huge Debrincat fan but getting the #2 and a couple more pieces is what the team needs. But I'd try and get Luke Hughes as well, not Holtz, Hawks need a potential top2, QB dman. |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 18, 2022 14:57:24 GMT -6
Let me get this straight you guys,centers and D-men aren't more importent than 24yro 35.6 goals a year wingers? Or just this one? 18yro wingers are because they're bigger? Wake me TF up next time we draft a 40 goal a year guy and I'll climb back on board too! And for the record,I'm good with trading the kid because there's nothing he can do here except help the team win more games than they need to. Does Kane stay when D-Cat's moved? Probably not but most seem done with him too. Does JT stay?.....ditto. Does the team keep Strome w/o any of the other three and why would they? Let's say MAF's 7M and deHAAH-job's 4.4M is obviously gone and D-Cat's 6.5M is gone and Strome's 3M is gone and we retain around 10M moving K&T.....now get me to the cap-floor. Put some asses in the building while your at it. We've been wanting a powerforward on the top6 for a long time and Slafkovsky is huge with the potential to be a 40 goal scorer, plus 6yrs younger. I'm a huge Debrincat fan but getting the #2 and a couple more pieces is what the team needs. But I'd try and get Luke Hughes as well, not Holtz, Hawks need a potential top2, QB dman. I'd rather Hughes than the 2OA, personally. he and their '23 first round pick for D-cat. that would give us 3 firsts and 2 seconds in '23. |
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Post by BigT on Jun 18, 2022 15:37:58 GMT -6
We've been wanting a powerforward on the top6 for a long time and Slafkovsky is huge with the potential to be a 40 goal scorer, plus 6yrs younger. I'm a huge Debrincat fan but getting the #2 and a couple more pieces is what the team needs. But I'd try and get Luke Hughes as well, not Holtz, Hawks need a potential top2, QB dman. I'd rather Hughes than the 2OA, personally. he and their '23 first round pick for D-cat. that would give us 3 firsts and 2 seconds in '23. If we think Luke Hughes is gonna be a number one dman, then the Devils know he is. I’d have to think think he’s off the board. Because the Wild have to trade 35 goal guy Fiala. And he’ll come in cheaper than Dcat. I’d bet they could trade Holtz for him alone. So to me. If they want the slight upgrade over Fiala. I’d take Holtz and the number 2. I highly highly doubt the Devils are desperate to dump guys. Holtz would be expendable due to Dcat. The #2 would be to level it out. If they’re gonna give away another asset like Foote. We gawd dam take it. I hope a team offers stuff like that. It would help. That’s why I’d look west. Clarke or Drysdale is where I’d like to start!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 18, 2022 18:54:48 GMT -6
I'd rather Hughes than the 2OA, personally. he and their '23 first round pick for D-cat. that would give us 3 firsts and 2 seconds in '23. If we think Luke Hughes is gonna be a number one dman, then the Devils know he is. I’d have to think think he’s off the board. Because the Wild have to trade 35 goal guy Fiala. And he’ll come in cheaper than Dcat. I’d bet they could trade Holtz for him alone. So to me. If they want the slight upgrade over Fiala. I’d take Holtz and the number 2. I highly highly doubt the Devils are desperate to dump guys. Holtz would be expendable due to Dcat. The #2 would be to level it out. If they’re gonna give away another asset like Foote. We gawd dam take it. I hope a team offers stuff like that. It would help. That’s why I’d look west. Clarke or Drysdale is where I’d like to start!!! the idea would be the Devils want to start winning now. they don't want to wait a few years for Hughes to be a #1. they want to make the playoffs next year. Debrincat helps with that immediately. they already have Hamilton, Graves, and Severson as well as a bunch of cap space. so maybe we go: Debrincat and our '22 3rd rounder for Hughes, their '23 first rounder, and Tatar (for one year at 4.5) to preserve most of their cap space. plus they still get their #2 OA. |
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Post by BigT on Jun 18, 2022 19:32:44 GMT -6
If we think Luke Hughes is gonna be a number one dman, then the Devils know he is. I’d have to think think he’s off the board. Because the Wild have to trade 35 goal guy Fiala. And he’ll come in cheaper than Dcat. I’d bet they could trade Holtz for him alone. So to me. If they want the slight upgrade over Fiala. I’d take Holtz and the number 2. I highly highly doubt the Devils are desperate to dump guys. Holtz would be expendable due to Dcat. The #2 would be to level it out. If they’re gonna give away another asset like Foote. We gawd dam take it. I hope a team offers stuff like that. It would help. That’s why I’d look west. Clarke or Drysdale is where I’d like to start!!! the idea would be the Devils want to start winning now. they don't want to wait a few years for Hughes to be a #1. they want to make the playoffs next year. Debrincat helps with that immediately. they already have Hamilton, Graves, and Severson as well as a bunch of cap space. so maybe we go: Debrincat and our '22 3rd rounder for Hughes, their '23 first rounder, and Tatar (for one year at 4.5) to preserve their most of their cap space. plus they still get their #2 OA. I would do that. I would have to. Getting the chance to get a #1 dman is a good chunk of the battle. Great chunk. Hawks wouldn’t have to rush him either. It’s best to get the dmen earlier than later!!! |
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Post by BigT on Jun 18, 2022 19:39:25 GMT -6
If the Hawks in a potential trade could get Hughes, Clarke or Drysdale. I’d love it.
Getting the edge on dmen is paramount!!!
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 18, 2022 20:08:15 GMT -6
If the Hawks in a potential trade could get Hughes, Clarke or Drysdale. I’d love it. Getting the edge on dmen is paramount!!! If a team wants an elite young sniper like Debrincat they'll have to give up a dman like those three, and Allans former teammate Guhle. I can see those four teams, and hopefully others, starting a bidding war to get Debrincat and it should get us a first round pick in this years draft or next, or both depending on were this years pick is. |
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Post by BigT on Jun 18, 2022 21:06:59 GMT -6
If the Hawks in a potential trade could get Hughes, Clarke or Drysdale. I’d love it. Getting the edge on dmen is paramount!!! If a team wants an elite young sniper like Debrincat they'll have to give up a dman like those three, and Allans former teammate Guhle. I can see those four teams, and hopefully others, starting a bidding war to get Debrincat and it should get us a first round pick in this years draft or next, or both depending on were this years pick is. Let’s hope so. But looking at Makar and recently Hedman, Keith etc. it’s hard to give up those guys. Especially when you don’t have one. But we’ll see. I still believe NJ is the destination. But it’ll be #2 and Holtz and maybe another d prospect!!! |
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Post by nighbor on Jun 18, 2022 23:04:51 GMT -6
If a team wants an elite young sniper like Debrincat they'll have to give up a dman like those three, and Allans former teammate Guhle. I can see those four teams, and hopefully others, starting a bidding war to get Debrincat and it should get us a first round pick in this years draft or next, or both depending on were this years pick is. Let’s hope so. But looking at Makar and recently Hedman, Keith etc. it’s hard to give up those guys. Especially when you don’t have one. But we’ll see. I still believe NJ is the destination. But it’ll be #2 and Holtz and maybe another d prospect!!! I would throw Strome in the mix because going only by career numbers and leaving out foolish emotions Strome puts up Dach-like numbers. Not good enough for Dach not good enough Strome. |
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Post by BigT on Jun 18, 2022 23:32:08 GMT -6
Let’s hope so. But looking at Makar and recently Hedman, Keith etc. it’s hard to give up those guys. Especially when you don’t have one. But we’ll see. I still believe NJ is the destination. But it’ll be #2 and Holtz and maybe another d prospect!!! I would throw Strome in the mix because going only by career numbers and leaving out foolish emotions Strome puts up Dach-like numbers. Not good enough for Dach not good enough Strome. I would love to agree with you. But Are you quoting the right post? I’m not sure that has anything to do with what we were talking about. I’m not complaining. Just doesn’t seem to make sense!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Jun 19, 2022 7:36:13 GMT -6
Let’s hope so. But looking at Makar and recently Hedman, Keith etc. it’s hard to give up those guys. Especially when you don’t have one. But we’ll see. I still believe NJ is the destination. But it’ll be #2 and Holtz and maybe another d prospect!!! I would throw Strome in the mix because going only by career numbers and leaving out foolish emotions Strome puts up Dach-like numbers. Not good enough for Dach not good enough Strome. What foolish emotions are you talking about? The stubbornness of a foolish refusal to play one of the team's better players by a fool of a HC that only another fool would hire? Strome will go on to have a good career and Potter will have to pursue his elsewhere. Dylan Strome PROVED what he can do with D-Cat when he arrived and again this year with Kane and D-Cat. What numbers even compare between the two players? I'll admit Dach's better defensively but you said numbers....... GPG APG FO% D .125 .263 34.6(32.8 this year) S .245 .377 48.6(52.3 this year) If you were referring to defensive numbers or metrics,I'd expect Dach's to be better to be honest.....if you or anyone else have this comparison, it might be interesting. I just don't understand your refusal to appreciate a player who persevered through what he's proven by his play and hard work to improve to be unfair treatment. Unlike Dach who's never been a healthy scratch once despite very disappointing play at times while getting plenty of opportunity to play with the same players Strome excels with....Strome had to earn his last successful opportunity too. The kid spent summers practicing with Cat and Kane to the delight and expectations of all three only to find himself in the press box when season(S) would start much to the dismay of teammates and they had enough of the foolishness to start the last one. Dylan Strome's trade value was just about destroyed and a lesser kid's attitude could have been too by the last brain trust and it was ONLY his commitment and perseverance that now has him a nice asset.........this is another example of a possible F' up but thanks to the player,he'll bring a return. What more can Strome to acquit himself in your eyes? If he was good defensively too.......he'd be worth twice his 3M! |
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Post by hsbob on Jun 19, 2022 7:50:54 GMT -6
I thought I offered more than just "stan doesn't know what he's doing, he sucks" ,I'll discuss any move from the last four years that I strongly disagree with and I can also go back to when I thought he did okay. Other than a more appropriate thread,what's wrong with revisiting the whole decade when assessing the last guy,I brought up the first half to point out some of the things I thought were done correctly also. I wasnt specifically referring to your post per say, i meant in a more general terms. Debates/arguments tend to get out of hand and out of topic. There is a better thread to place the post you're referring to squish but I thought 'v' hit the nail on the head before when he said this is as civil as a hockey MB gets! Even with me here.....LOL! |
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Post by nighbor on Jun 19, 2022 12:17:02 GMT -6
I would throw Strome in the mix because going only by career numbers and leaving out foolish emotions Strome puts up Dach-like numbers. Not good enough for Dach not good enough Strome. I would love to agree with you. But Are you quoting the right post? I’m not sure that has anything to do with what we were talking about. I’m not complaining. Just doesn’t seem to make sense!!! The talk had been about possibly trading DeBrincat. Now I hope this makes sense. |
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Post by BigT on Jun 19, 2022 12:25:25 GMT -6
I would love to agree with you. But Are you quoting the right post? I’m not sure that has anything to do with what we were talking about. I’m not complaining. Just doesn’t seem to make sense!!! The talk had been about possibly trading DeBrincat. Now I hope this makes sense. So you’re saying you want to trade Strome? Or Dach? Or both? Still not really getting the point. Sorry dude!!! |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 19, 2022 12:25:42 GMT -6
I would love to agree with you. But Are you quoting the right post? I’m not sure that has anything to do with what we were talking about. I’m not complaining. Just doesn’t seem to make sense!!! The talk had been about possibly trading DeBrincat. Now I hope this makes sense. Still doesn't make sense how you're comparing Strome and Dachs offense when Strome had 51pts and was almost a point a game after the trade. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jun 19, 2022 12:31:17 GMT -6
The talk had been about possibly trading DeBrincat. Now I hope this makes sense. So you’re saying you want to trade Strome? Or Dach? Or both? Still not really getting the point. Sorry dude!!! Strome, I think lol he said add him in a Debrincat trade. I'd keep Strome though and put Raddysh on his line. |
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Post by vadarx on Jun 19, 2022 15:00:33 GMT -6
I would love to agree with you. But Are you quoting the right post? I’m not sure that has anything to do with what we were talking about. I’m not complaining. Just doesn’t seem to make sense!!! The talk had been about possibly trading DeBrincat. Now I hope this makes sense. if you are advocating to include Strome in any trades, they'll have to re-sign him first or trade his rights before he becomes a RFA. being arbitration eligible, he probably costs us or another team at least as much as he made this past season (3 million). I don't see many teams wanting to pay him that much, tbh. he is most likely headed for free agency and we will get nada for him... |
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Post by nighbor on Jun 19, 2022 16:21:43 GMT -6
I would throw Strome in the mix because going only by career numbers and leaving out foolish emotions Strome puts up Dach-like numbers. Not good enough for Dach not good enough Strome. What foolish emotions are you talking about? The stubbornness of a foolish refusal to play one of the team's better players by a fool of a HC that only another fool would hire? Strome will go on to have a good career and Potter will have to pursue his elsewhere. Dylan Strome PROVED what he can do with D-Cat when he arrived and again this year with Kane and D-Cat. What numbers even compare between the two players? I'll admit Dach's better defensively but you said numbers....... GPG APG FO% D .125 .263 34.6(32.8 this year) S .245 .377 48.6(52.3 this year) If you were referring to defensive numbers or metrics,I'd expect Dach's to be better to be honest.....if you or anyone else have this comparison, it might be interesting. I just don't understand your refusal to appreciate a player who persevered through what he's proven by his play and hard work to improve to be unfair treatment. Unlike Dach who's never been a healthy scratch once despite very disappointing play at times while getting plenty of opportunity to play with the same players Strome excels with....Strome had to earn his last successful opportunity too. The kid spent summers practicing with Cat and Kane to the delight and expectations of all three only to find himself in the press box when season(S) would start much to the dismay of teammates and they had enough of the foolishness to start the last one. Dylan Strome's trade value was just about destroyed and a lesser kid's attitude could have been too by the last brain trust and it was ONLY his commitment and perseverance that now has him a nice asset.........this is another example of a possible F' up but thanks to the player,he'll bring a return. What more can Strome to acquit himself in your eyes? If he was good defensively too.......he'd be worth twice his 3M! In general emotions like anger tends to cloud ones judgment. Prior to playing in Chicago with DeBrincat from this point referred to simply as 12 "Strome" made a list of the top10 draft busts at #5. You can continue pointing to stats with 12 and 88 from a 23-25 year old Strome but the Arizona Strome only had 16 points in 48 games or .333 PPG. Take his numbers without 12 and 88 out of the mix and honestly tell us Strome is worth 6M. Dach unlike Strome wasn't given a plum job but earned his opportunity to move up into the top 6 with hard work and sacrifice of ego. Lack of production put him back into the bottom 6 and with hard work he will be back in the top 6. We are in real danger of loslng one or both 12 and 88 and Strome's past numbers indicate without them his production will drop and then how much trade value is there. In a rebuild there is not much room for error and I believe he has better trade value with 12. I want to see the player you see but he is not here yet. I want to see him make whoever his line mates are better not just compliment them. I would like him to take charge of his own line. He created chemistry with 12 in other words he learned his hockey likes and dislikes and where he was going to be under different conditions and he can do that with others. |
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Post by nighbor on Jun 19, 2022 16:55:19 GMT -6
The talk had been about possibly trading DeBrincat. Now I hope this makes sense. So you’re saying you want to trade Strome? Or Dach? Or both? Still not really getting the point. Sorry dude!!! To clarify i have made no bones about the fact that without 12 Strome is serviceable. If we trade 12 it is best we trade Strome as part of the deal as that maximizes Strome's trade value. |
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Post by 2old4this on Jun 19, 2022 18:08:35 GMT -6
Basically it’s probably best the Hawks don’t keep this years pick. If they get the 2nd overall let’s say. Logan Cooley looks like another good player. Despite who it is. I don’t believe the Hawks will get a franchise player after #1. And I don’t know if Wright will be a franchise player. He’s good. But how good is the question. If the Hawks get the 2nd overall. I’d say make some sort of deal with Columbus to take that pick, but add in someone like Sillinger to come back. Or even to get a decent pick back in the future. If that is the case. Then I don’t see the logic of keeping any of 19/88/12/4. I’d heavily look to to move them all. I don’t see any reason to keep guys that realistically are not part of the future!!! It's my belief that Kaner will still be playing at a high level well into his forties. |
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Post by nighbor on Jun 19, 2022 18:42:14 GMT -6
The talk had been about possibly trading DeBrincat. Now I hope this makes sense. Still doesn't make sense how you're comparing Strome and Dachs offense when Strome had 51pts and was almost a point a game after the trade. The only points comparison I made was not from the start of the trade but from the times Strome didn't play with 12 and 88 and stats in Arizona . There were discussions on how many points Strome would have had if they stayed together. 20/21 people complained Strome had to play bottom 6 and Strome had only 17 points in 40 games. |
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Post by mvr on Jun 19, 2022 19:17:11 GMT -6
Basically it’s probably best the Hawks don’t keep this years pick. If they get the 2nd overall let’s say. Logan Cooley looks like another good player. Despite who it is. I don’t believe the Hawks will get a franchise player after #1. And I don’t know if Wright will be a franchise player. He’s good. But how good is the question. If the Hawks get the 2nd overall. I’d say make some sort of deal with Columbus to take that pick, but add in someone like Sillinger to come back. Or even to get a decent pick back in the future. If that is the case. Then I don’t see the logic of keeping any of 19/88/12/4. I’d heavily look to to move them all. I don’t see any reason to keep guys that realistically are not part of the future!!! It's my belief that Kaner will still be playing at a high level well into his forties. I believe the odds are low unless Kane is traded. Kane has played a lot of big pressure games in his career. It is finally starting to take a toll. His offensive game remains dynamic. But he is nowhere near as consistent as he was even two or three years ago, especially five on five. Defensively, he lacks engagement and now often seems disinterested. It has been a good run, but nothing lasts forever. I would not be shocked to see Kane's game take a sharp downward turn even next year. He needs to be surrounded by better talent than the scraps Little Bowman left him. If Davidson continues to move out players, there won't be anyone left to convert 88's soft passes. If so, he certainly would be happier and more productive playing elsewhere. |
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Post by BigT on Jun 19, 2022 19:24:51 GMT -6
So you’re saying you want to trade Strome? Or Dach? Or both? Still not really getting the point. Sorry dude!!! To clarify i have made no bones about the fact that without 12 Strome is serviceable. If we trade 12 it is best we trade Strome as part of the deal as that maximizes Strome's trade value. Oh, ok. So you want Strome to be included in a Dcat trade. Should a said so. It’s a fair talking point!!! |
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Post by mvr on Jun 19, 2022 19:27:33 GMT -6
Regarding Strome - The player emerged as the first line centre largely by default. Dach was not ready. Borgstrom was a failed experiment. Tyler Johnson did not work out. Toews was needed in a checking role to stop the opponent's best players. There was nobody else.
The Strome/Kane/Debrincat line was at best mediocre five on five. They allowed many more goals than they scored, and they were often hemmed in their own zone for extended periods, even when playing with the Hawks best defencemen.
The reason to trade Strome this summer is because his numbers are likely to drop dramatically if not playing with Debrincat and Kane. I believe both will be gone by September.
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Post by mvr on Jun 19, 2022 19:49:22 GMT -6
I also will not be surprised if Strome and Kubalik are not re-signed. Both are arbitration eligible. If no trade partner emerges, the general manager might choose to let them walk as UFAs.
I certainly do not think either should be offered a raise or an extended deal.
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Post by vadarx on Jun 19, 2022 19:50:13 GMT -6
on Strome, the entire league knows the 'hawks are not likely to qualify him and he will be available for free in a few weeks, so I would say the likelihood of him being traded for anything more than a 7th rounder is slim...
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Post by vadarx on Jun 19, 2022 19:51:02 GMT -6
I also will not be surprised if Strome and Kubalik are not re-signed. Both are arbitration eligible. If no trade partner emerges, the general manager might choose to let them walk as UFAs. I certainly do not think either should be offered a raise or an extended deal. yeah, I doubt either is qualified, tbh. |
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Post by hsbob on Jun 20, 2022 7:41:37 GMT -6
What foolish emotions are you talking about? The stubbornness of a foolish refusal to play one of the team's better players by a fool of a HC that only another fool would hire? Strome will go on to have a good career and Potter will have to pursue his elsewhere. Dylan Strome PROVED what he can do with D-Cat when he arrived and again this year with Kane and D-Cat. What numbers even compare between the two players? I'll admit Dach's better defensively but you said numbers....... GPG APG FO% D .125 .263 34.6(32.8 this year) S .245 .377 48.6(52.3 this year) If you were referring to defensive numbers or metrics,I'd expect Dach's to be better to be honest.....if you or anyone else have this comparison, it might be interesting. I just don't understand your refusal to appreciate a player who persevered through what he's proven by his play and hard work to improve to be unfair treatment. Unlike Dach who's never been a healthy scratch once despite very disappointing play at times while getting plenty of opportunity to play with the same players Strome excels with....Strome had to earn his last successful opportunity too. The kid spent summers practicing with Cat and Kane to the delight and expectations of all three only to find himself in the press box when season(S) would start much to the dismay of teammates and they had enough of the foolishness to start the last one. Dylan Strome's trade value was just about destroyed and a lesser kid's attitude could have been too by the last brain trust and it was ONLY his commitment and perseverance that now has him a nice asset.........this is another example of a possible F' up but thanks to the player,he'll bring a return. What more can Strome to acquit himself in your eyes? If he was good defensively too.......he'd be worth twice his 3M! In general emotions like anger tends to cloud ones judgment. Prior to playing in Chicago with DeBrincat from this point referred to simply as 12 "Strome" made a list of the top10 draft busts at #5. You can continue pointing to stats with 12 and 88 from a 23-25 year old Strome but the Arizona Strome only had 16 points in 48 games or .333 PPG. Take his numbers without 12 and 88 out of the mix and honestly tell us Strome is worth 6M. Dach unlike Strome wasn't given a plum job but earned his opportunity to move up into the top 6 with hard work and sacrifice of ego. Lack of production put him back into the bottom 6 and with hard work he will be back in the top 6. We are in real danger of loslng one or both 12 and 88 and Strome's past numbers indicate without them his production will drop and then how much trade value is there. In a rebuild there is not much room for error and I believe he has better trade value with 12. I want to see the player you see but he is not here yet. I want to see him make whoever his line mates are better not just compliment them. I would like him to take charge of his own line. He created chemistry with 12 in other words he learned his hockey likes and dislikes and where he was going to be under different conditions and he can do that with others. Your emotions may cloud your judgements but I'll usually include legitimate reasons for feeling the way i do about a player or a situation and back em up with something,I think you do too,so I don't really think emotions play a part for either of us in this one. I just like the player more than you.......more than most it seems.......I have from the start. I appreciate your clarification,I was comparing career numbers and you were referring to their numbers at the same age. A fairer comparison with the exception of FO's,Strome never saw the struggles Dach has.........Dach plays better defensively to keep it fair. AZ's had a poor history developing their MANY high picks and Strome saw 20+ games as a 20yro and 20+ @21,not everybody rushes their big centers.....what a novel idea. He exceled in his first full time assignment here.....EXCELED.......resulting in a stellar offensive output @22 and 41 for D-Cat along the way with F'n Perlini as a 3rd wheel for part of the year. The kid was basically just messed with between then and this year after Potter got the boot to keep it civil but he keep his head,worked hard and had a REAL good year.......that's a fact. If Kane,D-Cat and Strome played together all year....their offensive output would have been amazing! They can't score half the points and shut-own too.....the rest of the talentless sewer should at least be able to put a shut down line together but no bueno on that one.........a little emotion for ya.....LOL! Strome was given a plum job and Dach earned his opportunity......do you mean that? Strome saw 17/51 in 58gms when he got here.....how is that NOT seizing an oppertunity? He was 22......Dach's age now. 22/48 in 69 games after Potter got booted......seized the opportunity again after a few mis-used and dinged up seasons. He had his share of high ankle sprains and concussions too but didn't use em as excuses......he worked hard and hell a hell of a year. And I honestly didn't tell anyone Strome was worth 6M dollars......what I said was, 'he'd be worth twice what he's paid IF he was as good defensively as he is offensively' but he isn't. |
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Post by hsbob on Jun 20, 2022 8:25:29 GMT -6
So Dylan Strome sees a career season in every respect,most of it as a 24yro after keeping his head through unfair,extended benching's and injuries and the team doesn't QO for 3.3M for one year? Is that what it would take to retain his rights?
Who plays center if JT goes? Who DOES the team pay? Brent 'buyout' Connolly 3.5M.......but Strome gets the heave-ho.....WTF is going on here? Tyler Johnson doesn't bother you guys as much as keeping Strome for a year or two?
If Strome isn't benched again to start this year,which I still believe was the final straw for his teammates with the record to show for it and if we see the Kane,Cat,Strome line all year........we can all agree those career years(assits for Kane) would have been even better and so would their trade value.....brilliant!
I guess the young center isn't a player I'm supposed to like if you believe the hype because he's not a Yank,the last GM acquired him,he was traded for a decent NCAA kid and he doesn't play a rugged style......but I like him a lot and I seem to be in the minority.......not a strange place for me.
Hockey's a game of perseverance the longer I watch it and we saw quite a few mid 20 year olds break through this year and Strome was one of em. Does he need to play with great wingers like Kane and Cat to produce? It certainly helps but at least you KNOW he does produce with talented linemates and don't kid yourselves.......their names don't have to be Patrick Kane and Alex DeBrincat.......but like I said.....it certainly helps.
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Post by hsbob on Jun 20, 2022 8:35:59 GMT -6
The talk had been about possibly trading DeBrincat. Now I hope this makes sense. if you are advocating to include Strome in any trades, they'll have to re-sign him first or trade his rights before he becomes a RFA. being arbitration eligible, he probably costs us or another team at least as much as he made this past season (3 million). I don't see many teams wanting to pay him that much, tbh. he is most likely headed for free agency and we will get nada for him... You don't think 22/48 52%FO in 69 games as a 24yro center is worth 3.3M? What do you figure he's worth? He'll play next year as a 25yro center.....you don't think he had a breakthrough year? |
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