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Post by vadarx on Dec 18, 2020 5:08:08 GMT -6
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Post by galaxytrash on Dec 18, 2020 5:53:11 GMT -6
just a light supper. a 7" HP tablet with sauce. i will never bet against duclair again on a full season. i'll just bet against on the 2nd half of the season from here on. : ) |
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Post by vadarx on Dec 18, 2020 6:24:21 GMT -6
just a light supper. a 7" HP tablet with sauce. i will never bet against duclair again on a full season. i'll just bet against on the 2nd half of the season from here on.  : ) 😅 good plan! |
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Post by galaxytrash on Dec 28, 2020 4:53:19 GMT -6
Best of luck big man.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2020 10:50:29 GMT -6
Mike Hoffman signed a tryout contract with St. Louis. That's a huge blow to Florida, Who've now lost 2 of their highest scoring forwards (Dadanov signed with Ottawa) from last season.
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Post by vadarx on Dec 28, 2020 17:58:06 GMT -6
Mike Hoffman signed a tryout contract with St. Louis. That's a huge blow to Florida, Who've now lost 2 of their highest scoring forwards (Dadanov signed with Ottawa) from last season. ugggg.... anyone but fucking st louis.... I was looking forward to seeing Vegas and the Avs eat their lunch this season. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Dec 28, 2020 18:41:53 GMT -6
Mike Hoffman signed a tryout contract with St. Louis. That's a huge blow to Florida, Who've now lost 2 of their highest scoring forwards (Dadanov signed with Ottawa) from last season. hoffman's averaged 28 goals a year for the last 6 years and can downright fly. at age 31 he's right in the middle of his prime. you'd wonder why a PTO would be the best he could do. i'm totally speculating here but you might remember when hoffman and erik karlsson both played in ottawa, hoffman's long time girlfriend was investigated (but never charged) for criminal harrassment against karlsson's girlfriend that went on even after karlsson's g/f gave birth to a stillborn son. so....again i'm just speculating, but i wonder if hoffman's perhaps not the greatest team mate in the world. or at least one with a bit too much baggage. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jan 4, 2021 23:02:24 GMT -6
devon levi and spencer knight are both panthers' goalie prospects and will play against each other for the gold tomorrow.
go levi!! : )
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Post by hsbob on Jan 10, 2021 9:30:43 GMT -6
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Post by hsbob on Jan 21, 2021 9:17:15 GMT -6
It's hard for the Panthers to get any games in with the dumb bastards from Texas and Carolina gettin' infected,they'll play their third game next Tuesday.......if the dumb bastards from Ohio keep from gettin infected.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2021 22:52:52 GMT -6
I like the changes the Panthers have made, turning over the roster with 12 new players. When they lost Dadinov and Hoffman I was wondering where the offense would come from. But Carter Verhaeghen looks like an outstanding pickup. 25 years old and a 2 year contract for $1 million per already looks like it could be a steal. Then adding Patric Hornqvist was an outstanding move, although I wasn't initially thrilled with it because of his age (35). But he looks like a similar type of pickup as when Hossa came to the Hawks. His teammates are raving about him, in particular his work ethics. He's going to show the young guys what it takes to win. And Duclair has been solid, picking up 5 assists in the first 4 games, giving the Panthers an exciting to watch first line with Barkov and Verhaeghen. Then add Huberdeau and Hornqvist on the 2nd line and that's a couple potent scoring lines.
Not thrilled with how Bobrovsky has played in his first 2 games, but Dreidger has looked solid in net.
7 out of a possible 8 points to start the season, and the next 2 games vs Detroit. Have a great shot at jumping out to a sizzling start. Yes, they played Chicago and will play Detroit in those first 6 games, but you have to beat the teams you're supposed to. And with so many new faces it's a benefit to play the weaker teams as the Panthers learn to play as a team. I'll be really looking forward to see how they stack up to Tampa.
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Post by hsbob on Feb 2, 2021 10:31:16 GMT -6
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Post by T-man2010 on Feb 2, 2021 13:15:32 GMT -6
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Post by hsbob on Feb 5, 2021 11:55:52 GMT -6
Bad OT loss for the Cats after leading 5-3 with a bit over 2mins left last night and a ill advised challenge by Q that led to the game tying goal but they get a chance at retribution tonight and are yet to lose one in regulation. Bob has to regain his Vezina form at some point.....right?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2021 19:05:33 GMT -6
Bad OT loss for the Cats after leading 5-3 with a bit over 2mins left last night and a ill advised challenge by Q that led to the game tying goal but they get a chance at retribution tonight and are yet to lose one in regulation. Bob has to regain his Vezina form at some point.....right? Just like last season, Driedger has outplayed Bobrovsky so far. Q has been splitting their time equally, with Driedger going tonight.
I haven't been impressed with Bobrovsky since signing with the Panthers.
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Post by BigT on Feb 6, 2021 6:54:12 GMT -6
Bad OT loss for the Cats after leading 5-3 with a bit over 2mins left last night and a ill advised challenge by Q that led to the game tying goal but they get a chance at retribution tonight and are yet to lose one in regulation. Bob has to regain his Vezina form at some point.....right? I know this is probably not popular. But I think the next CBA should have a clause in it that after 2 years of a contract, if a player isn’t producing 75% of what they did the year before the contract was signed. Teams should have a right to terminate it. There’s just no way a team should be handcuffed by a player that’s gone down that bad. I can see if a player signs a 7 year deal, if they decline after 3-4 years, understood. But at least the team got some value. If a team like Florida signs Bobrovsky. And he’s been a massive failure, the team clearly didn’t sign that. It’s on him to produce, he’s done it before and he can do it again. It happens too much. Like with Lucic too. So if a player got 80 points, and signed an 8 year deal. If he only gets 75% or 60 points in each of the first two years, the team should be allowed to terminate the deal. I’d like to see a little more pressure on the players to hold up their end of the bargain!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2021 9:40:30 GMT -6
Bad OT loss for the Cats after leading 5-3 with a bit over 2mins left last night and a ill advised challenge by Q that led to the game tying goal but they get a chance at retribution tonight and are yet to lose one in regulation. Bob has to regain his Vezina form at some point.....right? I know this is probably not popular. But I think the next CBA should have a clause in it that after 2 years of a contract, if a player isn’t producing 75% of what they did the year before the contract was signed. Teams should have a right to terminate it. There’s just no way a team should be handcuffed by a player that’s gone down that bad. I can see if a player signs a 7 year deal, if they decline after 3-4 years, understood. But at least the team got some value. If a team like Florida signs Bobrovsky. And he’s been a massive failure, the team clearly didn’t sign that. It’s on him to produce, he’s done it before and he can do it again. It happens too much. Like with Lucic too. So if a player got 80 points, and signed an 8 year deal. If he only gets 75% or 60 points in each of the first two years, the team should be allowed to terminate the deal. I’d like to see a little more pressure on the players to hold up their end of the bargain!!! Ever since contracts in sports started skyrocketing, I've felt there should be a high/low salary based on performance. So a player signs for $10 million per season for 5 years, the first year of the contract is locked at $10 million. Based on that players performance in the first season, season 2 would either be the same $10 million or can be reduced by a percentage, say for sake of argument 10% reduction to $9 million. If in year 2 they perform back to their career norms, either the salary goes back to the $10 million, or it can go to $11 million to recoup the loss of year 2. But if they continue to decline, so would their salary, either by the same 10% per contract year, or maybe a declining percentage.
This way the player would have the incentive to continue to perform at a high level. Because once a player signs a long term contract and have the guarantee of that salary, they just don't have the same incentives to perform at the level that warranted a team paying that salary.
I recall Rick Sutcliffe when he first came to the Cubs as a pending free agent. He went on to go 16-1 and helped lead the Cubs to their first playoff appearance since 1945. The Cubs proceeded to pay him for that year. But looking over his entire Cubs career, he won 34 games in 2 seasons (1984/1989 - both playoff years for the Cubs) while winning a total of 32 games over his 6 other seasons with the Cubs. I felt at the time he didn't care about seasons when he wasn't a pending free agent. If I recall correctly, he signed a 5 year contract in the offseason leading to 1985. So in 1984 and 1989 he had his best seasons as a Cub, both times in the last year of his contract. It was then I thought about the high/low contract, because I feel if that had been in play, Sutcliffe would have performed much better in the non-contract years. I never expected a 16-1 run, but he just wasn't the same pitcher in those seasons.
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Post by hsbob on Feb 6, 2021 10:49:42 GMT -6
I dunno guys,a contract is a contract. Nobody had a gun to SB's head when he signed a 30yro D-man to an eight year deal and nobody had a gun to DT's when he signed a 31yro goaltender to a seven year deal. Talon had Bob and the Breadman on the line two summers ago and he went with Bob.....rumors were Panarin wanted to play for Q and woulda been the much better choice even for a bit more.
As far as Rick Sutcliffe Phil,he was responsible for breaking a 39 year string of agony by leading his team to it's first ever modern day PO appearance,won the series opener 13-0 while giving up 2 hits over 7 innings and hitting a homer and was a Leon Durham 'Gatorade glove' away from from the WS in game five. MLB also forced the Cubs to relinquish home field advantage due to Wrigley field's lack of lights.
The postseason again in 89 was the second PO appearance of the decade.......unimaginable before Sutcliff's arrival. The years in between saw Jim Frey use Sutcliffe as a pinch hitter which resulted in a torn hamstring legging out a grounder and he tore a rotator cuff not long after being rushed back from his hamstring injury. The following year'85'saw all four Cub starters go down to injury if I recall.......who uses his ace as a pinch hitter? They say you can break an anvil if you try hard enough!
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Post by T-man2010 on Feb 6, 2021 10:56:42 GMT -6
I dunno guys,a contract is a contract. Nobody had a gun to SB's head when he signed a 30yro D-man to an eight year deal and nobody had a gun to DT's when he signed a 31yro goaltender to a seven year deal. Talon had Bob and the Breadman on the line two summers ago and he went with Bob.....rumors were Panarin wanted to play for Q and woulda been the much better choice even for a bit more. As far as Rick Sutcliffe Phil,he was responsible for breaking a 39 year string of agony by leading his team to it's first ever modern day PO appearance,won the series opener 13-0 while giving up 2 hits over 7 innings and hitting a homer and was a Leon Durham 'Gatorade glove' away from from the WS in game five. MLB also forced the Cubs to relinquish home field advantage due to Wrigley field's lack of lights. The postseason again in 89 was the second PO appearance of the decade.......unimaginable before Sutcliff's arrival. The years in between saw Jim Frey use Sutcliffe as a pinch hitter which resulted in a torn hamstring legging out a grounder and he tore a rotator cuff not long after being rushed back from his hamstring injury. The following year'85'saw all four Cub starters go down to injury if I recall.......who uses his ace as a pinch hitter? They say you can break an anvil if you try hard enough! Unless they go the nfl route and no contract is gaurenteed except the signing bonus's. After that they can be cut. |
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Post by hsbob on Feb 6, 2021 11:12:42 GMT -6
NICE bounce back from the Cat's last night and another solid start from Driedger. The team fell asleep Thursday night and Q challenged a goal call he shouldn't have that led to the Preds game tying power play goal w/a minute left and resulting OT loss. Things were different last night and Q must have gotten through to his boys,25 SOG's allowed vs 41 Thursday,60% at the dot vs 39% Thursday and one PP given up with nine seconds left.
Fla's lookin' at 12 games in the next 21 days due to some early games being postponed and an upcoming back to back with the Wings......better win em both with a back to back with TB right afterward.
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Post by hsbob on Feb 6, 2021 11:16:50 GMT -6
I dunno guys,a contract is a contract. Nobody had a gun to SB's head when he signed a 30yro D-man to an eight year deal and nobody had a gun to DT's when he signed a 31yro goaltender to a seven year deal. Talon had Bob and the Breadman on the line two summers ago and he went with Bob.....rumors were Panarin wanted to play for Q and woulda been the much better choice even for a bit more. As far as Rick Sutcliffe Phil,he was responsible for breaking a 39 year string of agony by leading his team to it's first ever modern day PO appearance,won the series opener 13-0 while giving up 2 hits over 7 innings and hitting a homer and was a Leon Durham 'Gatorade glove' away from from the WS in game five. MLB also forced the Cubs to relinquish home field advantage due to Wrigley field's lack of lights. The postseason again in 89 was the second PO appearance of the decade.......unimaginable before Sutcliff's arrival. The years in between saw Jim Frey use Sutcliffe as a pinch hitter which resulted in a torn hamstring legging out a grounder and he tore a rotator cuff not long after being rushed back from his hamstring injury. The following year'85'saw all four Cub starters go down to injury if I recall.......who uses his ace as a pinch hitter? They say you can break an anvil if you try hard enough! Unless they go the nfl route and no contract is gaurenteed except the signing bonus's. After that they can be cut. That's why NFL players get around half their money in guaranteed bonuses |
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Post by jaty84 on Feb 7, 2021 1:29:47 GMT -6
I know this is probably not popular. But I think the next CBA should have a clause in it that after 2 years of a contract, if a player isn’t producing 75% of what they did the year before the contract was signed. Teams should have a right to terminate it. There’s just no way a team should be handcuffed by a player that’s gone down that bad. I can see if a player signs a 7 year deal, if they decline after 3-4 years, understood. But at least the team got some value. If a team like Florida signs Bobrovsky. And he’s been a massive failure, the team clearly didn’t sign that. It’s on him to produce, he’s done it before and he can do it again. It happens too much. Like with Lucic too. So if a player got 80 points, and signed an 8 year deal. If he only gets 75% or 60 points in each of the first two years, the team should be allowed to terminate the deal. I’d like to see a little more pressure on the players to hold up their end of the bargain!!! Ever since contracts in sports started skyrocketing, I've felt there should be a high/low salary based on performance. So a player signs for $10 million per season for 5 years, the first year of the contract is locked at $10 million. Based on that players performance in the first season, season 2 would either be the same $10 million or can be reduced by a percentage, say for sake of argument 10% reduction to $9 million. If in year 2 they perform back to their career norms, either the salary goes back to the $10 million, or it can go to $11 million to recoup the loss of year 2. But if they continue to decline, so would their salary, either by the same 10% per contract year, or maybe a declining percentage.
This way the player would have the incentive to continue to perform at a high level. Because once a player signs a long term contract and have the guarantee of that salary, they just don't have the same incentives to perform at the level that warranted a team paying that salary.
I recall Rick Sutcliffe when he first came to the Cubs as a pending free agent. He went on to go 16-1 and helped lead the Cubs to their first playoff appearance since 1945. The Cubs proceeded to pay him for that year. But looking over his entire Cubs career, he won 34 games in 2 seasons (1984/1989 - both playoff years for the Cubs) while winning a total of 32 games over his 6 other seasons with the Cubs. I felt at the time he didn't care about seasons when he wasn't a pending free agent. If I recall correctly, he signed a 5 year contract in the offseason leading to 1985. So in 1984 and 1989 he had his best seasons as a Cub, both times in the last year of his contract. It was then I thought about the high/low contract, because I feel if that had been in play, Sutcliffe would have performed much better in the non-contract years. I never expected a 16-1 run, but he just wasn't the same pitcher in those seasons.
Just out of curiosity, would you cut Hossa's contract since his numbers were not in the 40 goals range? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2021 7:22:36 GMT -6
I dunno guys,a contract is a contract. Nobody had a gun to SB's head when he signed a 30yro D-man to an eight year deal and nobody had a gun to DT's when he signed a 31yro goaltender to a seven year deal. Talon had Bob and the Breadman on the line two summers ago and he went with Bob.....rumors were Panarin wanted to play for Q and woulda been the much better choice even for a bit more. As far as Rick Sutcliffe Phil,he was responsible for breaking a 39 year string of agony by leading his team to it's first ever modern day PO appearance,won the series opener 13-0 while giving up 2 hits over 7 innings and hitting a homer and was a Leon Durham 'Gatorade glove' away from from the WS in game five. MLB also forced the Cubs to relinquish home field advantage due to Wrigley field's lack of lights. The postseason again in 89 was the second PO appearance of the decade.......unimaginable before Sutcliff's arrival. The years in between saw Jim Frey use Sutcliffe as a pinch hitter which resulted in a torn hamstring legging out a grounder and he tore a rotator cuff not long after being rushed back from his hamstring injury. The following year'85'saw all four Cub starters go down to injury if I recall.......who uses his ace as a pinch hitter? They say you can break an anvil if you try hard enough! Yes, a contract is a contract, and it is what it is regarding Bobrovsky. But would a contract that had the stipulation in it to perform or have it reduced by out of the question? That then would be part of the contract.
As for Sutcliffe, I stand by what I said. He had his best years with the Cubs in contract years. He may have had the injury for 1 season, but what about all the others? He didn't live up to the contract. I'm not saying I didn't appreciate what Sutcliffe brought to the Cubs, I'm just saying that in my view he only pitched at his best in the years he was due to become a free agent.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2021 7:27:29 GMT -6
Ever since contracts in sports started skyrocketing, I've felt there should be a high/low salary based on performance. So a player signs for $10 million per season for 5 years, the first year of the contract is locked at $10 million. Based on that players performance in the first season, season 2 would either be the same $10 million or can be reduced by a percentage, say for sake of argument 10% reduction to $9 million. If in year 2 they perform back to their career norms, either the salary goes back to the $10 million, or it can go to $11 million to recoup the loss of year 2. But if they continue to decline, so would their salary, either by the same 10% per contract year, or maybe a declining percentage.
This way the player would have the incentive to continue to perform at a high level. Because once a player signs a long term contract and have the guarantee of that salary, they just don't have the same incentives to perform at the level that warranted a team paying that salary.
I recall Rick Sutcliffe when he first came to the Cubs as a pending free agent. He went on to go 16-1 and helped lead the Cubs to their first playoff appearance since 1945. The Cubs proceeded to pay him for that year. But looking over his entire Cubs career, he won 34 games in 2 seasons (1984/1989 - both playoff years for the Cubs) while winning a total of 32 games over his 6 other seasons with the Cubs. I felt at the time he didn't care about seasons when he wasn't a pending free agent. If I recall correctly, he signed a 5 year contract in the offseason leading to 1985. So in 1984 and 1989 he had his best seasons as a Cub, both times in the last year of his contract. It was then I thought about the high/low contract, because I feel if that had been in play, Sutcliffe would have performed much better in the non-contract years. I never expected a 16-1 run, but he just wasn't the same pitcher in those seasons.
Just out of curiosity, would you cut Hossa's contract since his numbers were not in the 40 goals range? Baseball and hockey are quite different. Sutcliffe was relied on for his pitching. If he didn't perform well, the team likely loses. Hossa wasn't just about scoring goals, he was a defensive force that could shut down the oppositions best players, as well as assist on plays that led to goals. Those both could lead to the Hawks winning games, even if he didn't end up on the scoresheet. But if Hossa went from being a force on D to a defensive liability, as well as had his offensive numbers severely decline, then yes, I would if the contract allowed. |
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Post by hsbob on Feb 8, 2021 9:42:35 GMT -6
I dunno guys,a contract is a contract. Nobody had a gun to SB's head when he signed a 30yro D-man to an eight year deal and nobody had a gun to DT's when he signed a 31yro goaltender to a seven year deal. Talon had Bob and the Breadman on the line two summers ago and he went with Bob.....rumors were Panarin wanted to play for Q and woulda been the much better choice even for a bit more. As far as Rick Sutcliffe Phil,he was responsible for breaking a 39 year string of agony by leading his team to it's first ever modern day PO appearance,won the series opener 13-0 while giving up 2 hits over 7 innings and hitting a homer and was a Leon Durham 'Gatorade glove' away from from the WS in game five. MLB also forced the Cubs to relinquish home field advantage due to Wrigley field's lack of lights. The postseason again in 89 was the second PO appearance of the decade.......unimaginable before Sutcliff's arrival. The years in between saw Jim Frey use Sutcliffe as a pinch hitter which resulted in a torn hamstring legging out a grounder and he tore a rotator cuff not long after being rushed back from his hamstring injury. The following year'85'saw all four Cub starters go down to injury if I recall.......who uses his ace as a pinch hitter? They say you can break an anvil if you try hard enough! Yes, a contract is a contract, and it is what it is regarding Bobrovsky. But would a contract that had the stipulation in it to perform or have it reduced by out of the question? That then would be part of the contract.
As for Sutcliffe, I stand by what I said. He had his best years with the Cubs in contract years. He may have had the injury for 1 season, but what about all the others? He didn't live up to the contract. I'm not saying I didn't appreciate what Sutcliffe brought to the Cubs, I'm just saying that in my view he only pitched at his best in the years he was due to become a free agent.
If a player outperforms his career average during a contract should he be paid more or is this really a one way street type of thing? Of course something is part of a contract once that something is in the contract but what you're suggesting will never be part of a professional sports contract. Talon coulda inked Panarin for a bit more but he went with Bob. I have no idea why his play has fallen off so badly and I don't see how any GM could foresee it but if healthy(and it appears so),I don't see how he doesn't regain his form at some point,32 should be his prime. Sutcliffe tore a hammy legging out a grounder as a pinch hitter in 85(he got Frey'd),who TF pinch hits their ace? He tore a rotator cuff shortly after being rushed back but won the Clemente award in 87 with his 18 win bounce back season and won 16 in 89 when they won the east by 6 games. There were a LOT of overpaid BUMS in the Cubs past......Rick Sutcliffe wasn't one of em. |
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Post by BigT on Feb 8, 2021 11:09:25 GMT -6
Yes, a contract is a contract, and it is what it is regarding Bobrovsky. But would a contract that had the stipulation in it to perform or have it reduced by out of the question? That then would be part of the contract.
As for Sutcliffe, I stand by what I said. He had his best years with the Cubs in contract years. He may have had the injury for 1 season, but what about all the others? He didn't live up to the contract. I'm not saying I didn't appreciate what Sutcliffe brought to the Cubs, I'm just saying that in my view he only pitched at his best in the years he was due to become a free agent.
If a player outperforms his career average during a contract should he be paid more or is this really a one way street type of thing? Of course something is part of a contract once that something is in the contract but what you're suggesting will never be part of a professional sports contract. Talon coulda inked Panarin for a bit more but he went with Bob. I have no idea why his play has fallen off so badly and I don't see how any GM could foresee it but if healthy(and it appears so),I don't see how he doesn't regain his form at some point,32 should be his prime. Sutcliffe tore a hammy legging out a grounder as a pinch hitter in 85(he got Frey'd),who TF pinch hits their ace? He tore a rotator cuff shortly after being rushed back but won the Clemente award in 87 with his 18 win bounce back season and won 16 in 89 when they won the east by 6 games. There were a LOT of overpaid BUMS in the Cubs past......Rick Sutcliffe wasn't one of em.     I believe a player is paid to perform at their highest level. If they outperform their current value, and have a long term deal, they should fire their agent for not having faith in them, and looping them into a long term deal for no money. A player can always ask for more on their next contract. I will however say that if that was to take place, there could be absolutely no escrow. I think the best way to go about this is easy. If a player does not reach 75% of there totals that got them the contract, a team reserves the right to terminate it. Also, if teams constantly terminate deals, I doubt players will want to sign there. So that is your two way street. Owners would have to beware!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Feb 8, 2021 13:19:50 GMT -6
If a player outperforms his career average during a contract should he be paid more or is this really a one way street type of thing? Of course something is part of a contract once that something is in the contract but what you're suggesting will never be part of a professional sports contract. Talon coulda inked Panarin for a bit more but he went with Bob. I have no idea why his play has fallen off so badly and I don't see how any GM could foresee it but if healthy(and it appears so),I don't see how he doesn't regain his form at some point,32 should be his prime. Sutcliffe tore a hammy legging out a grounder as a pinch hitter in 85(he got Frey'd),who TF pinch hits their ace? He tore a rotator cuff shortly after being rushed back but won the Clemente award in 87 with his 18 win bounce back season and won 16 in 89 when they won the east by 6 games. There were a LOT of overpaid BUMS in the Cubs past......Rick Sutcliffe wasn't one of em. I believe a player is paid to perform at their highest level. If they outperform their current value, and have a long term deal, they should fire their agent for not having faith in them, and looping them into a long term deal for no money. A player can always ask for more on their next contract. I will however say that if that was to take place, there could be absolutely no escrow. I think the best way to go about this is easy. If a player does not reach 75% of there totals that got them the contract, a team reserves the right to terminate it. Also, if teams constantly terminate deals, I doubt players will want to sign there. So that is your two way street. Owners would have to beware!!! Any contract that gives only one side an opt out will never get past the PA and I don't know why it should......GM's live with their mistakes in hockey. If owners could just dump bad contracts,they'd never have to beware,just sign guys and dump em if you're not happy. If the team can terminate a contract,then the player would have to have the same option. If a player should live with a bad deal and just fire his agent,then a team should have to live with a bad deal too and just fire their GM......right? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 7:56:31 GMT -6
Yes, a contract is a contract, and it is what it is regarding Bobrovsky. But would a contract that had the stipulation in it to perform or have it reduced by out of the question? That then would be part of the contract.
As for Sutcliffe, I stand by what I said. He had his best years with the Cubs in contract years. He may have had the injury for 1 season, but what about all the others? He didn't live up to the contract. I'm not saying I didn't appreciate what Sutcliffe brought to the Cubs, I'm just saying that in my view he only pitched at his best in the years he was due to become a free agent.
If a player outperforms his career average during a contract should he be paid more or is this really a one way street type of thing? Of course something is part of a contract once that something is in the contract but what you're suggesting will never be part of a professional sports contract. Talon coulda inked Panarin for a bit more but he went with Bob. I have no idea why his play has fallen off so badly and I don't see how any GM could foresee it but if healthy(and it appears so),I don't see how he doesn't regain his form at some point,32 should be his prime. Sutcliffe tore a hammy legging out a grounder as a pinch hitter in 85(he got Frey'd),who TF pinch hits their ace? He tore a rotator cuff shortly after being rushed back but won the Clemente award in 87 with his 18 win bounce back season and won 16 in 89 when they won the east by 6 games. There were a LOT of overpaid BUMS in the Cubs past......Rick Sutcliffe wasn't one of em. During contract negotiations the player and his agent are asking for maximum return. So if they get that, then they are already getting paid for their performance. So is it really a one way street if a GM wants to add a stipulation based on subpar performance? |
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Post by hsbob on Feb 11, 2021 8:00:46 GMT -6
Beatin' the Wings after losing the first one is nothing to write home about but Bob stoppin' 31 of 32 is a good thing,wonder who gets the net against the Bolts tonight.
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