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Post by bigbarn27 on Apr 12, 2023 11:56:21 GMT -6
And if the Hawks beat the Flyers, and San Jose loses their last 2 games, they'll finish tied and Hawks end up ahead of them as well. So one more chance to decrease their odds at Bedard. I did not want to add that, but that is correct. Could drop to #4 and if someone below jumps them in the lottery, the slide continues  . Reminiscent with the Ovechkin and Malkin 2004 draft, we end up with Cam Barker at #3 by winning a meaningless game. I hope that is not the case this year. But remember if they had just won 1 more game they would have had the 1st pick. With no Cam there is no 88 probably we can play this game all night long and im sure i will at lest til May 8th. |
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Post by Nikos on Apr 12, 2023 14:37:41 GMT -6
I did not want to add that, but that is correct. Could drop to #4 and if someone below jumps them in the lottery, the slide continues . Reminiscent with the Ovechkin and Malkin 2004 draft, we end up with Cam Barker at #3 by winning a meaningless game. I hope that is not the case this year. But remember if they had just won 1 more game they would have had the 1st pick. With no Cam there is no 88 probably we can play this game all night long and im sure i will at lest til May 8th. I had a feeling they would win the last game versus Flyers and for sure a loss versus Pens. Just goes to show these players play hard and coming off a tough loss the night before, traveling and playing a rested team fighting for a playoff spot they should be commended. Hope the lottery balls are kind. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 12, 2023 20:49:14 GMT -6
flames giving dustin wolf his first NHL start in goal against the sharks tonight. (and he just let 1 in, 1-0 early for SJ) they were talking about him on the broadcast, he was the 5th to last player selected in the 2019 draft, but he's racked up some serious accolades since. Since joining the Everett Silvertips of the Western League back in 2017, Wolf has had a heck of an ascendance. He’s been goalie of the year in the WHL (2019-20, 2020-21), CHL (2020-21) and AHL (2022-23), and since going pro in 2020 he’s been probably the best goaltender in all of minor pro hockey. All this before the age of 22.flamesnation.ca/news/dustin-wolf-recalled-from-calgary-wranglers-expected-to-make-nhl-debut-against-sharksthey were speculating on the broadcast he was possibly drafted so late because of his size. (6', 166 lbs.) |
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 12, 2023 22:56:17 GMT -6
damn you, zadorov.
his first career hat trick sinks the sharks 3-1. 14 on the season for him, tied for 10th among defensemen this year.
wolf stopped 23 of 24 for his first nhl win.
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Apr 13, 2023 13:54:53 GMT -6
damn you, zadorov. his first career hat trick sinks the sharks 3-1. 14 on the season for him, tied for 10th among defensemen this year. wolf stopped 23 of 24 for his first nhl win. Only the 6th hat trick by a Flames dman, I'm sure Al had a few. |
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Post by Nikos on Apr 13, 2023 14:16:45 GMT -6
damn you, zadorov. his first career hat trick sinks the sharks 3-1. 14 on the season for him, tied for 10th among defensemen this year. wolf stopped 23 of 24 for his first nhl win. Only the 6th hat trick by a Flames dman, I'm sure Al had a few. Al MacInnis, maybe Dion Phaneuf or Gary Suter? off the top of my head. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Apr 13, 2023 16:50:56 GMT -6
Only the 6th hat trick by a Flames dman, I'm sure Al had a few. Al MacInnis, maybe Dion Phaneuf or Gary Suter? off the top of my head. I looked up all the hat tricks in Flames history, only 4 D did it with Calgary, 2 with Atlanta. I was shocked Al Macinnis only had 1, the other 3 were Hamilton, Murzyn, and Z. No Suter or Phaneuf. |
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Post by Nikos on Apr 13, 2023 17:47:13 GMT -6
Al MacInnis, maybe Dion Phaneuf or Gary Suter? off the top of my head. I looked up all the hat tricks in Flames history, only 4 D did it with Calgary, 2 with Atlanta. I was shocked Al Macinnis only had 1, the other 3 were Hamilton, Murzyn, and Z. No Suter or Phaneuf. Wow would have lost that bet. Thanks for confirming. |
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Post by jaty84 on Apr 14, 2023 0:15:25 GMT -6
I looked up all the hat tricks in Flames history, only 4 D did it with Calgary, 2 with Atlanta. I was shocked Al Macinnis only had 1, the other 3 were Hamilton, Murzyn, and Z. No Suter or Phaneuf. Wow would have lost that bet. Thanks for confirming. I remember MacInnis more in a STL Blews jersey. But might be due to the reason that I've been following purely teams with Slovakian players and none were in Calgary opposite to STL. |
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Post by jaty84 on Apr 14, 2023 0:21:59 GMT -6
What a chance to finish last in the league and they get 3 out of 4 points in the last two games... KD should have called up whole ECHL team to play the last 10 games. Currently the league has the Hawks with the second worst record with the Blue Jackets one more game to play. Is there any chance the outcome of the match would switch us between the second and third place?
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 14, 2023 0:40:49 GMT -6
Currently the league has the Hawks with the second worst record with the Blue Jackets one more game to play. Is there any chance the outcome of the match would switch us between the second and third place? if the jackets lose in regulation, the hawks finish in 30th due to more regulation wins, if the jackets win or get an overtime loss, chicago will finish 31st. |
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Post by jaty84 on Apr 14, 2023 5:49:30 GMT -6
Currently the league has the Hawks with the second worst record with the Blue Jackets one more game to play. Is there any chance the outcome of the match would switch us between the second and third place? if the jackets lose in regulation, the hawks finish in 30th due to more regulation wins, if the jackets win or get an overtime loss, chicago will finish 31st. Isn't the "ROW" number the first tie-breaker? Oh, don't bother, we'll see tomorrow  |
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 14, 2023 6:05:05 GMT -6
if the jackets lose in regulation, the hawks finish in 30th due to more regulation wins, if the jackets win or get an overtime loss, chicago will finish 31st. Isn't the "ROW" number the first tie-breaker? Oh, don't bother, we'll see tomorrow go to this link and scroll to the bottom of the page and click on "tie breaking procedure". www.nhl.com/standings/2022/wildcardthe first tiebreaker is RW, regulation wins, or wins that don't require o/t. ROW is the second tiebreaker which is regulation wins plus wins in overtime. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 14, 2023 20:03:03 GMT -6
no help from the jackets tonight, not that you'd expect any.
of their 4 top minute men on defense tonight, 3 of them had 13 nhl starts between them, the 4th with 59 starts.
and of course they trot out their goalie of the future, 29 year old journeyman jon gillies who has 27 nhl starts with 4 teams in 7 pro seasons.
anyways, the hawks officially finish 30th.
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Post by jacksalmon on Apr 14, 2023 20:45:13 GMT -6
no help from the jackets tonight, not that you'd expect any. of their 4 top minute men on defense tonight, 3 of them had 13 nhl starts between them, the 4th with 59 starts. and of course they trot out their goalie of the future, 29 year old journeyman jon gillies who has 27 nhl starts with 4 teams in 7 pro seasons. anyways, the hawks officially finish 30th. Regardless of how the Hawks could have finished 32nd, maybe they will luck out and beat the odds and still get the #1 pick. Not that, if that would happen, it would make much difference in their 10 year path, but it would make things somewhat more interesting. It will still be another awful season ahead next year and probably equally awful for at least a couple, or few, after that. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 15, 2023 0:39:16 GMT -6
2 different tweets from 2 reputable (i believe) sources, posted about half an hour apart.
what's the deal with the 2 different numbers on top beside anaheim?
all season when i looked at tank standings/draft odds i've always seen different numbers on different sites and i still don't know why.
anyone?
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Post by Tater on Apr 15, 2023 1:41:35 GMT -6
2 different tweets from 2 reputable (i believe) sources, posted about half an hour apart. what's the deal with the 2 different numbers on top beside anaheim?all season when i looked at tank standings/draft odds i've always seen different numbers on different sites and i still don't know why. anyone?
I'm not seeing the different numbers. Thanks for posting the odds though.
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Post by vadarx on Apr 15, 2023 2:54:56 GMT -6
2 different tweets from 2 reputable (i believe) sources, posted about half an hour apart. what's the deal with the 2 different numbers on top beside anaheim? all season when i looked at tank standings/draft odds i've always seen different numbers on different sites and i still don't know why. anyone? Anaheim has a 25% chance of picking first and an 18% chance of winning one of the lotto drawings. I believe. the 'hawks have an 11.5% chance at both. |
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Post by vadarx on Apr 15, 2023 3:28:36 GMT -6
it is funny to me that the spot where the 'hawks reside in the final standings (30th, or 3rd OA) is the least likely spot they'll end up choosing from...
far more likely that they pick 4th or 5th. fingers and toes are gonna be crossed come 5/08...
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 15, 2023 5:36:08 GMT -6
2 different tweets from 2 reputable (i believe) sources, posted about half an hour apart. what's the deal with the 2 different numbers on top beside anaheim?all season when i looked at tank standings/draft odds i've always seen different numbers on different sites and i still don't know why. anyone?
I'm not seeing the different numbers. Thanks for posting the odds though.
if you click on the colored graphic it should open up a new page where you should see anaheim's odds are 18.5%, where the other one says their odds are 25.5%. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 15, 2023 5:38:35 GMT -6
2 different tweets from 2 reputable (i believe) sources, posted about half an hour apart. what's the deal with the 2 different numbers on top beside anaheim? all season when i looked at tank standings/draft odds i've always seen different numbers on different sites and i still don't know why. anyone? Anaheim has a 25% chance of picking first and an 18% chance of winning one of the lotto drawings. I believe. could you dumb it down a bit more possibly? sorry...a lot of my gray matter doesn't seem to matter any more. i'm still not getting it. seems i have a serious mental block happening here. |
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Post by Nikos on Apr 15, 2023 5:59:13 GMT -6
Anaheim has a 25% chance of picking first and an 18% chance of winning one of the lotto drawings. I believe. could you dumb it down a bit more possibly? sorry...a lot of my gray matter doesn't seem to matter any more. i'm still not getting it. seems i have a serious mental block happening here. Remember there are two lottery drawings, first is for 1st pick and only the top 11 seeds eligible for the overall #1, then the second draw for second pick. Depending who wins the first and second draws the remaining 14 teams not selected will be placed in order of regular season final standings. Also, after the first pick is drawn the odds for the remaining teams increases proportionate basis for second lottery draw. |
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Post by vadarx on Apr 15, 2023 6:30:24 GMT -6
Anaheim has a 25% chance of picking first and an 18% chance of winning one of the lotto drawings. I believe. could you dumb it down a bit more possibly? sorry...a lot of my gray matter doesn't seem to matter any more. i'm still not getting it. seems i have a serious mental block happening here. what Nikos said...😛 my understanding is the 25% for Anaheim is their odds of winning the first drawing and the 18% is their odds of winning one of the two drawings. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Apr 15, 2023 7:51:28 GMT -6
could you dumb it down a bit more possibly? sorry...a lot of my gray matter doesn't seem to matter any more. i'm still not getting it. seems i have a serious mental block happening here. what Nikos said...😛 my understanding is the 25% for Anaheim is their odds of winning the first drawing and the 18% is their odds of winning one of the two drawings. Look, I know that it was impossible to tell the team to tank. However, it is too bad that when they needed to fail the most, they even failed at that task. Who knows where they will end up drafting, but regardless, they will still be shit for many years to come. They don't have that much talent currently and their draft picks are not going to suddenly improve their fate. Also, the rest of the teams in the league will not be standing still and many of them already have serious talent in their lineups, unlike that Chicago franchise. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Apr 15, 2023 7:55:01 GMT -6
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Post by phill9 on May 5, 2023 16:49:54 GMT -6
T -3 days
Or should that be
B - 3 days
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Post by BigT on May 8, 2023 9:46:02 GMT -6
I guess the good news is that the Hawks have a much better chance at moving up than they do staying out.
22.7% chance of o moving up. But a 70% chance of picking 4 or 5. Just gotta beat the odds I guess.
I’ll say the lotto shakes out like this:
1- Anaheim
2- Detroit/Arizona
3- Columbus
4- Chicago
5-SJ
I think one of the other teams move up. Probably Arizona!!!
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Post by Nikos on May 8, 2023 10:07:03 GMT -6
I guess the good news is that the Hawks have a much better chance at moving up than they do staying out. 22.7% chance of o moving up. But a 70% chance of picking 4 or 5. Just gotta beat the odds I guess. I’ll say the lotto shakes out like this: 1- Anaheim 2- Detroit/Arizona 3- Columbus 4- Chicago 5-SJ I think one of the other teams move up. Probably Arizona!!! History shows, teams not in the top 3 move up so either they will draft 4th or 5th or hopefully 1 or 2. |
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Post by vadarx on May 8, 2023 10:39:29 GMT -6
I guess the good news is that the Hawks have a much better chance at moving up than they do staying out. 22.7% chance of o moving up. But a 70% chance of picking 4 or 5. Just gotta beat the odds I guess. I’ll say the lotto shakes out like this: 1- Anaheim 2- Detroit/Arizona 3- Columbus 4- Chicago 5-SJ I think one of the other teams move up. Probably Arizona!!! I could live with that. I just don't want the wangs to get Bedard... |
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Post by BigT on May 8, 2023 12:41:26 GMT -6
I guess the good news is that the Hawks have a much better chance at moving up than they do staying out. 22.7% chance of o moving up. But a 70% chance of picking 4 or 5. Just gotta beat the odds I guess. I’ll say the lotto shakes out like this: 1- Anaheim 2- Detroit/Arizona 3- Columbus 4- Chicago 5-SJ I think one of the other teams move up. Probably Arizona!!! I could live with that. I just don't want the wangs to get Bedard... I have to believe that Detroit, Columbus and Arizona are due a lotto win. What if gawd dam Pitt wins with their 1.5% chance? That would hurt really bad. I’d say Hawks have a reasonable shot at moving up. But we’ll see. Staying out isn’t really gonna happen, but trading pick 3 to someone in pick 5 could be an option. If someone really wants Mishkov, they may pay. Let’s say the Habs get 5th and the Hawks somehow secure pick 3. Trade it to the Habs for #5 and their other 1st rounder. Could work!!! |
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. Reminiscent with the Ovechkin and Malkin 2004 draft, we end up with Cam Barker at #3 by winning a meaningless game. I hope that is not the case this year.
