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Post by Tater on Nov 30, 2023 16:02:36 GMT -6
The 2nd reply on that tweet was from Bedard. I don't speak twitter, so I'll ASSume that means he approves this apology.
That's how I took it too.
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Post by jacksalmon on Nov 30, 2023 16:27:51 GMT -6
How much longer can Perry's side stay quiet? Recognition of responsibility is always the first step in recovery. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Nov 30, 2023 16:35:52 GMT -6
Thanks, I knew someone out there, like you, would know the options once he cleared waivers. So, I guess the Hawks won't have to pay him another dime, unless he extracts it by some litigation over his contract termination, but he is now free to play for the minimum or whatever amount is agreeable to him and his new team. Right? Negotiating a new contract would lessen the $3M he has already paid to party down. Please educate me again, if necessary. Thanks. The only fact I believe I can confirm is that once he has cleared waivers (which he has), he can sign with another team for whatever amount they agree on (league minimum or negotiated amount). As far as will he still get paid or what he has been paid that is still somewhat not clear to me right now. My best guess if he was terminated for cause then he will no longer earn his full salary unless NHL PA files grievance and he wins. It is hard to imagine that a player terminated for cause would get paid any more money. Can you imagine a clause in a contract that says: "If the contracting player violates the conduct codes set forth elsewhere in this contract, he will then be paid 50%, 75%, 100% (take your pick) of what he would have been paid but for the termination for violation of the codes of conduct." |
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Post by LordKOTL on Nov 30, 2023 17:20:58 GMT -6
You would have to assume that if there was a legal way to fight whatever "reason" the was for the contract termination as not worthy of it, Perry's lawyer would be all over it like Kessel on a hot dog. Given the 'hawks recent media presence for the negative, the last thing they would need is a lawsuit over breaking a contract without clause. Thus, whatever the reason, I think it would stand that Perry did indeed do something that violated his contract. How much longer can Perry's side stay quiet? If I'm not mistaken,any team can sign him for any amount now that his contract has been terminated,will interested teams know the nature of his conduct? Will there be a grievance filed on his part? Does he dispute these charges or does the 'dead rabbit' speak for itself? I was going to say, "however long he thinks he can sit on it", but Twitter answered for us. 🙂 |
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 30, 2023 17:29:07 GMT -6
The 2nd reply on that tweet was from Bedard. click on it...it's a parody account. the blue check mark by the name used to mean something, not any more. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Nov 30, 2023 17:34:39 GMT -6
The 2nd reply on that tweet was from Bedard. click on it...it's a parody account. the blue check mark by the name used to mean something, not any more. Bedard doesn't do social media, so I thought it was fake. But it's nice to see Perry make a statement. |
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Post by steamer on Nov 30, 2023 17:36:22 GMT -6
Who on earth has the time to run fake Twitter accounts?
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Post by LordKOTL on Nov 30, 2023 17:46:11 GMT -6
Who on earth has the time to run fake Twitter accounts? Gladys Kravitz, HOA board members, Karens, Kevins, and the like. |
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 30, 2023 17:59:10 GMT -6
Who on earth has the time to run fake Twitter accounts? Same people that run forums..... Never mind, carry on!! |
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Post by hawkinmontreal on Nov 30, 2023 18:18:45 GMT -6
, Blackhawks/Rockford Ice dogs performance coach(don’t want to leave her name, check yourself)but there is a possible connection there, again there are a lot of rumours floating around, but from what I have heard she is possibly the Blackhawks employee they may be talking about. It’s great to see all the familiar faces are still posting here and keeping everything Blackhawks related rolling. Good job everyone. At the end of the day, everyone’s curiosity about who and when will be the talk about this team until there is something new for hockey fans to troll about.
Go Hawks Go!!!!!
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Post by vadarx on Nov 30, 2023 19:08:39 GMT -6
Who on earth has the time to run fake Twitter accounts? Same people that run forums..... Never mind, carry on!! found the Bedard fake account runner! |
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Post by T-man2010 on Nov 30, 2023 20:51:51 GMT -6
Same people that run forums..... Never mind, carry on!! found the Bedard fake account runner! According to the IP, he's in Thailand. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Nov 30, 2023 21:19:51 GMT -6
found the Bedard fake account runner! According to the IP, he's in Thailand. don't look at me. one account keeps me plenty busy enough. funny though...the account admits it's a parody yet it still has 11k+ followers. |
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Post by hsbob on Nov 30, 2023 21:19:59 GMT -6
How much longer can Perry's side stay quiet? If I'm not mistaken,any team can sign him for any amount now that his contract has been terminated,will interested teams know the nature of his conduct? Will there be a grievance filed on his part? Does he dispute these charges or does the 'dead rabbit' speak for itself? I was going to say, "however long he thinks he can sit on it", but Twitter answered for us. 🙂 He mentioned inappropriate behavior and struggles with alcohol and that apparently led to the behavior that he'll seek help for but there's still more questions than answers. "Struggles with alcohol" insinuates a long-term problem,Perry's missed one NHL start over the last 3 1/4 seasons and started 1,273 regular and 196 postseason games over the last 18 years...........he's hid the struggles well up until last week I'd say. It does sound like he got drunk and did something either 'inappropriate','unacceptable' or 'wrong' though, but what that something was matters.....drunk or not. Can a guy appoligize,admit to embarrassment and say he's seeking help and not say why? Just blame Ol demon rum and move along? |
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Post by squishy24 on Nov 30, 2023 22:29:40 GMT -6
I was going to say, "however long he thinks he can sit on it", but Twitter answered for us. 🙂 He mentioned inappropriate behavior and struggles with alcohol and that apparently led to the behavior that he'll seek help for but there's still more questions than answers. "Struggles with alcohol" insinuates a long-term problem,Perry's missed one NHL start over the last 3 1/4 seasons and started 1,273 regular and 196 postseason games over the last 18 years...........he's hid the struggles well up until last week I'd say. It does sound like he got drunk and did something either 'inappropriate','unacceptable' or 'wrong' though, but what that something was matters.....drunk or not. Can a guy appoligize,admit to embarrassment and say he's seeking help and not say why? Just blame Ol demon rum and move along? Add it to the many “we’ll never know” scandals this season in the NHL with the Pinto and Babcock fiasco |
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Post by LordKOTL on Nov 30, 2023 22:51:00 GMT -6
I was going to say, "however long he thinks he can sit on it", but Twitter answered for us. 🙂 He mentioned inappropriate behavior and struggles with alcohol and that apparently led to the behavior that he'll seek help for but there's still more questions than answers. "Struggles with alcohol" insinuates a long-term problem,Perry's missed one NHL start over the last 3 1/4 seasons and started 1,273 regular and 196 postseason games over the last 18 years...........he's hid the struggles well up until last week I'd say. It does sound like he got drunk and did something either 'inappropriate','unacceptable' or 'wrong' though, but what that something was matters.....drunk or not. Can a guy appoligize,admit to embarrassment and say he's seeking help and not say why? Just blame Ol demon rum and move along? As I said, as long as he thinks he can keep it silent. Assuming there is an active investigation, he isn't going to want to say anything that can be used against him in a civil or criminal trial, or even if there isn't one *currently* but mighty be in the future. However, at some point someone might let something leak, or speculation might run rampant enough that someone actually figures it out, and if he doesn't get ahead of it, it'll look worse. I get what you're saying; I want to know what he did as well. The silence though? Expected. |
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Post by vadarx on Nov 30, 2023 23:50:16 GMT -6
According to the IP, he's in Thailand. don't look at me. one account keeps me plenty busy enough. funny though...the account admits it's a parody yet it still has 11k+ followers. sureeeeeeeee 🧐 |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Dec 1, 2023 1:54:00 GMT -6
Recognition of responsibility is always the first step in recovery. AH no its not. |
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Post by mvr on Dec 1, 2023 8:09:27 GMT -6
Perry has apologized. The Blackhawks have terminated his contract (which is quite the punishment).
At this stage, really, there is no need for any of us to care what actually happened.
If Perry, through the player's association, presses for a wrongful dismissal, then of course the situation bears further scrutiny. But likely he won't. He's embarrassed, admits he has a problem, and recognizes he caused harm.
Our attitudes about aggressive, drunken behaviour (sexual, physical or verbal) have hardened over the years. What was once tolerated is now condemned (perhaps as it should be). Being hammered is no longer an acceptable excuse. The police to this point have not become involved which is all we really need to know.
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Post by Nikos on Dec 1, 2023 8:30:11 GMT -6
I was going to say, "however long he thinks he can sit on it", but Twitter answered for us. 🙂 He mentioned inappropriate behavior and struggles with alcohol and that apparently led to the behavior that he'll seek help for but there's still more questions than answers. "Struggles with alcohol" insinuates a long-term problem,Perry's missed one NHL start over the last 3 1/4 seasons and started 1,273 regular and 196 postseason games over the last 18 years...........he's hid the struggles well up until last week I'd say. It does sound like he got drunk and did something either 'inappropriate','unacceptable' or 'wrong' though, but what that something was matters.....drunk or not. Can a guy appoligize,admit to embarrassment and say he's seeking help and not say why? Just blame Ol demon rum and move along? You would have to assume if he has been struggling with alcohol that almost certainly would have been known around the league, unless his drank at home only. |
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Post by shooter61 on Dec 1, 2023 9:39:24 GMT -6
I heard that rumor yesterday, so it's already making it's rounds on social media. This one ain’t a rumour. That’s why I posted it. She’s pregnant. They had a blow up in Nashville. Papa Cheli got involved and Perry is gone. Now, does she save her job too? She did the same thing he did!!! So your saying perry knocked her up ?" |
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Post by BigT on Dec 1, 2023 10:05:22 GMT -6
This one ain’t a rumour. That’s why I posted it. She’s pregnant. They had a blow up in Nashville. Papa Cheli got involved and Perry is gone. Now, does she save her job too? She did the same thing he did!!! So your saying perry knocked her up ?" Yup. They got into an argument in Nashville. And this is where all hell came loose. Than in Columbus, he didn’t even take the bus to the arena from the hotel. He walked. He knew he was dusted. But, he got 20 years in. He’s filthy rich, and he’ll always have the top picks of women. He took advantage of his options. They finally failed him. He’s manned up and admitted it. Time to move on!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Dec 1, 2023 10:59:32 GMT -6
Perry has apologized. The Blackhawks have terminated his contract (which is quite the punishment). At this stage, really, there is no need for any of us to care what actually happened. If Perry, through the player's association, presses for a wrongful dismissal, then of course the situation bears further scrutiny. But likely he won't. He's embarrassed, admits he has a problem, and recognizes he caused harm. Our attitudes about aggressive, drunken behaviour (sexual, physical or verbal) have hardened over the years. What was once tolerated is now condemned (perhaps as it should be). Being hammered is no longer an acceptable excuse. The police to this point have not become involved which is all we really need to know. I admit my want to know is out of curiosity and I don't disagree with what you say,my life won't change either way. I'd think teams with interest will demand to know details if Perry decides to return to the league though. I'm also surprised a team with the Hawk's recent past isn't more forthcoming unless legalities are involved. The Org can say what it's not,call the conduct unacceptable and disturbing and the player can apologize,say he's embarrassed for inappropriate and wrong behavior and he's seeking help for alcohol struggles, and it's left at that? In the last few day I've read how little some care about what happened and how it shouldn't effect the on-ice product or day-day activities of the team...........isn't Joel Quenneville away from the game for the 3rd year in a row for similar sentiments? |
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Post by hsbob on Dec 1, 2023 11:04:36 GMT -6
Trading Chelios after he signed a team friendly deal and set-up family and business roots in Chicago was ridiculous,we can agree on that, but his actions afterward turned a lot of Hawk fans off after winning a cup in Detroit........and none here I'll point-out. Kane didn't ask to be traded last spring after winning three cups in Chicago and he was un-invited back,why should he not sign with any team at that point? I've pointed-out Phily getting a 1st and Tippett for same aged Giroux who had only Florida on his full NTC list the year before but to be fair to our young GM,Giroux was healthy. Patrick Kane was in the midst of the worst season of his career and playing in pain.....this was well known around the league. A selfish player woulda shut it down early and had the procedure then in preparation for the upcoming UFA season. nothing is going to change my mind on this,just like nothing I say is going to change anyone else's. But I'm still going to post my feelings on the subject. If the only way to post on here was everyone had to be in agreement on everything this board would suck. It's the differing opinions that keep us all coming back. I'm no longer a Patrick Kane fan Post away Phill,I never tell anyone what to or not to post,I just offered my viewpoint. |
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Post by BigT on Dec 1, 2023 11:48:32 GMT -6
Perry has apologized. The Blackhawks have terminated his contract (which is quite the punishment). At this stage, really, there is no need for any of us to care what actually happened. If Perry, through the player's association, presses for a wrongful dismissal, then of course the situation bears further scrutiny. But likely he won't. He's embarrassed, admits he has a problem, and recognizes he caused harm. Our attitudes about aggressive, drunken behaviour (sexual, physical or verbal) have hardened over the years. What was once tolerated is now condemned (perhaps as it should be). Being hammered is no longer an acceptable excuse. The police to this point have not become involved which is all we really need to know. I admit my want to know is out of curiosity and I don't disagree with what you say,my life won't change either way. I'd think teams with interest will demand to know details if Perry decides to return to the league though. I'm also surprised a team with the Hawk's recent past isn't more forthcoming unless legalities are involved. The Org can say what it's not,call the conduct unacceptable and disturbing and the player can apologize,say he's embarrassed for inappropriate and wrong behavior and he's seeking help for alcohol struggles, and it's left at that? In the last few day I've read how little some care about what happened and how it shouldn't effect the on-ice product or day-day activities of the team...........isn't Joel Quenneville away from the game for the 3rd year in a row for similar sentiments? I won’t comment on anymore Perry stuff unless it’s new. I don’t wanna kick him when he’s down. But I do agree that the org should be more transparent like they’ve said they’d be. And there’s also curiosity in there too, I’ll admit. On one hand I understand what has happened to Q and I’ll even throw in the other guy. I get it. But they did what they were told by their superior at work. They’re paying the price for someone else’s ignorance. I guess I’m just getting sick and tired of those two getting dragged through the mud and people saying they should’ve done more. I lose this question to everyone here. What would you have done with a tyrant for a boss, who said leave it with me. I don’t want this getting out? I know I wouldn’t have done shit. I would a kept my dream job and let the prick handle it. If he did, none of this would have happened. Even the pricks in the media saying “something should’ve been done”. I call bullshit. 13 years ago times were much much different. There were many tyrants in the workplace in all different types of employment. John McDonaugh was just that, a tyrannical asshole that shit on anyone he could. He wasnt a good dude. I for one think both of the them should be let back in. Everyone acts like they had a boss that was caring and just made a mistake. They were threatened too!!! |
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Post by Tater on Dec 1, 2023 12:15:45 GMT -6
So your saying perry knocked her up ?" Yup. They got into an argument in Nashville. And this is where all hell came loose. Than in Columbus, he didn’t even take the bus to the arena from the hotel. He walked. He knew he was dusted. But, he got 20 years in. He’s filthy rich, and he’ll always have the top picks of women. He took advantage of his options. They finally failed him. He’s manned up and admitted it. Time to move on!!! If true, I'm surprised she is still with the team too. If it was concentual (sp?), isn't she equally to blame? I know she has kids, is she married too? |
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Post by BigT on Dec 1, 2023 12:31:27 GMT -6
Yup. They got into an argument in Nashville. And this is where all hell came loose. Than in Columbus, he didn’t even take the bus to the arena from the hotel. He walked. He knew he was dusted. But, he got 20 years in. He’s filthy rich, and he’ll always have the top picks of women. He took advantage of his options. They finally failed him. He’s manned up and admitted it. Time to move on!!! If true, I'm surprised she is still with the team too. If it was concentual (sp?), isn't she equally to blame? I know she has kids, is she married too? I’ve been saying the same thing. However, I think the Hawks point of view will be that they didn’t investigate their transgressions. As that was none of their business. What happened in Nashville is what got Perry dismissed. I’m sure the Hawks will help shield her from blame and anything else and make her a victim. I had a chat with another member here and they brought up they’ll keep her around to keep her daddy happy, when she goes off for the baby, she’ll just never make it back. I agree that the org won’t throw her under the bus. Imagine Cheli telling them to go fuck themselves with a wire brush and find the other #7 to retire. This is why I believe KD was so pissed off. He knows she should also get shitcanned. From what I heard she vouched to get him there. As it sounds like they had this going back in Tampa. KD was led down the garden path right into the lions mouth. I’m sure he wants both parties the fuck out. Now his prized young gun gets his family dragged through the shit pile. Maybe the Bedards will have enough of this shit? That’s why it was great reading Kane’s comments on how Bedard is good for Chicago and the league. How he’s spoken with him a few times and how to go about his business there. I would love for Bedard to remain a Hawk and have the utmost success. But gotta think this team is tainted and the whole league wants the hawks to fail!!! |
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Dec 1, 2023 12:44:31 GMT -6
If true, I'm surprised she is still with the team too. If it was concentual (sp?), isn't she equally to blame? I know she has kids, is she married too? I’ve been saying the same thing. However, I think the Hawks point of view will be that they didn’t investigate their transgressions. As that was none of their business. What happened in Nashville is what got Perry dismissed. I’m sure the Hawks will help shield her from blame and anything else and make her a victim. I had a chat with another member here and they brought up they’ll keep her around to keep her daddy happy, when she goes off for the baby, she’ll just never make it back. I agree that the org won’t throw her under the bus. Imagine Cheli telling them to go fuck themselves with a wire brush and find the other #7 to retire. This is why I believe KD was so pissed off. He knows she should also get shitcanned. From what I heard she vouched to get him there. As it sounds like they had this going back in Tampa. KD was led down the garden path right into the lions mouth. I’m sure he wants both parties the fuck out. Now his prized young gun gets his family dragged through the shit pile. Maybe the Bedards will have enough of this shit? That’s why it was great reading Kane’s comments on how Bedard is good for Chicago and the league. How he’s spoken with him a few times and how to go about his business there. I would love for Bedard to remain a Hawk and have the utmost success. But gotta think this team is tainted and the whole league wants the hawks to fail!!! Reading your account I am a little unclear what transgressions, if any, did occur. What conduct by Perry has been deemed unacceptable? |
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Post by BigT on Dec 1, 2023 12:54:44 GMT -6
I’ve been saying the same thing. However, I think the Hawks point of view will be that they didn’t investigate their transgressions. As that was none of their business. What happened in Nashville is what got Perry dismissed. I’m sure the Hawks will help shield her from blame and anything else and make her a victim. I had a chat with another member here and they brought up they’ll keep her around to keep her daddy happy, when she goes off for the baby, she’ll just never make it back. I agree that the org won’t throw her under the bus. Imagine Cheli telling them to go fuck themselves with a wire brush and find the other #7 to retire. This is why I believe KD was so pissed off. He knows she should also get shitcanned. From what I heard she vouched to get him there. As it sounds like they had this going back in Tampa. KD was led down the garden path right into the lions mouth. I’m sure he wants both parties the fuck out. Now his prized young gun gets his family dragged through the shit pile. Maybe the Bedards will have enough of this shit? That’s why it was great reading Kane’s comments on how Bedard is good for Chicago and the league. How he’s spoken with him a few times and how to go about his business there. I would love for Bedard to remain a Hawk and have the utmost success. But gotta think this team is tainted and the whole league wants the hawks to fail!!! Reading your account I am a little unclear what transgressions, if any, did occur. What conduct by Perry has been deemed unacceptable? Well, I’m not sure if you read through this thread. But it appears that Perry has been having an affair with Caley Chelios for a few years. Now I’m not sure the org investigated that. They investigated the blow up at the team party in Nashville. The team said that his behaviour and conduct was unacceptable. I wasn’t there. But I’ve heard that he was yelling at her and arguing with her because she’s pregnant, and I’m guessing they think it’s his. So I believe the org is steering clear of their “transgressions”. And they focused on the acts in Nashville. I’m sure Cheli had a lot of say in this to protect his daughter. So they got rid of Perry. And they’ll let Caley go on maternity leave where she probably won’t come back!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Dec 1, 2023 12:55:58 GMT -6
Yup. They got into an argument in Nashville. And this is where all hell came loose. Than in Columbus, he didn’t even take the bus to the arena from the hotel. He walked. He knew he was dusted. But, he got 20 years in. He’s filthy rich, and he’ll always have the top picks of women. He took advantage of his options. They finally failed him. He’s manned up and admitted it. Time to move on!!! If true, I'm surprised she is still with the team too. If it was concentual (sp?), isn't she equally to blame? I know she has kids, is she married too? Personal life She is of Greek descent.[9] She met Danny Vitale while both were attending Northwestern University. They were married in Chicago in the summer of 2019.[10] The guest list included Eddie Vedder, John Cusack, and Kid Rock.[11] He was drafted by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the 2016 NFL Draft in the sixth round. He played for Cleveland Browns, Green Bay Packers, and New England Patriots in four seasons before retiring in 2021. She announced in January 2020 that she and Danny were expecting their first child in April 2020, and that she would miss out on the remaining road trips for the rest of the 2019–20 NHL season. She gave birth to a daughter, Isabella. In September 2021, the couple had their second child; a son named Danny.[12][13][14][15] From Wikipedia |
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