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Post by BigT on Jul 7, 2024 8:32:37 GMT -6
Then the UC can play Zeppelin "When the Levy breaks". but then where will the Blackhawks stay? Apparently, they’ll have no place to go!!! |
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Post by hsbob on Jul 7, 2024 9:59:43 GMT -6
I feel like they can still slide his contract if he plays in the AHL, but I'm not 100%. I was mostly thinking that his ass is probably broke and could use some money to live on. but I'm not sure how that all works as far as getting him some of his NHL contract. Just checked, if he doesn't play 10gms his contract slides a year. And him and his family got by this far, even making less money in the AHL will really help them. If everything goes as planned they'll never have to worry about money again. His 85K minors salary is 85K more than he made last year and I know the AHL isn't extravagant,but there is 'meal money' and other perks the NCAA can't offer. I'm sure he'll find a teammate to share a 2K a mo apt with....it is Rockford. Maybe rent a house for 3K and move the whole fam damily in,the drive in isn't that bad if he gets a chance to earn a few $11,900 NHL game checks either. |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 7, 2024 14:29:15 GMT -6
Maybe they can put a clause in there he gets paid nhl money no matter where he plays. I think he does need the money. He made nothing at State. He was taken care of. I’m sure this was a huge factor going into him turning pro. What ever signing bonus he can get, I’m sure he got it. What ever bonus’s he can get, I’m sure he’ll get them. Reichel was kinda the same. They had to get him his 10 games to ensure that he had money to stay in NA. Chicagoland ain’t cheap. Anyways, I’m sure the the young kid in the org will take him around and hang out with him, and be his future GM down the road. He’ll be well taken care of!!! aye, this is my thinking as well. he is a poor kid from overseas, he definitely could stand some money, especially if his family stays stateside as well. |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 7, 2024 14:30:56 GMT -6
but then where will the Blackhawks stay? Apparently, they’ll have no place to go!!! mean old levee |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 7, 2024 14:32:56 GMT -6
Just checked, if he doesn't play 10gms his contract slides a year. And him and his family got by this far, even making less money in the AHL will really help them. If everything goes as planned they'll never have to worry about money again. His 85K minors salary is 85K more than he made last year and I know the AHL isn't extravagant,but there is 'meal money' and other perks the NCAA can't offer. I'm sure he'll find a teammate to share a 2K a mo apt with....it is Rockford. Maybe rent a house for 3K and move the whole fam damily in,the drive in isn't that bad if he gets a chance to earn a few $11,900 NHL game checks either. yeah, I hadn't looked up how much he will make in Rockford, but maybe that'll be enough for his first year. as Big T said, they'll probably find a way to get him a bonus or two as well. heck, getting a few of those NHL checks you mentioned might be enough. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 7, 2024 16:13:52 GMT -6
There's a rumor that Hall and Donato are going to NJ for Haula and a 2nd round pick in 2025.
Erik had almost 2000 faceoffs the last 2 seasons with a 54% average.
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Post by Hockey is great on Jul 7, 2024 16:17:37 GMT -6
There's a rumor that Hall and Donato are going to NJ for Haula and a 2nd round pick in 2025. Erik had almost 2000 faceoffs the last 2 seasons with a 54% average. don’t think it’s a credible rumor at all from the website it’s on, but that would be a no brainer for the hawks |
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Post by Nikos on Jul 7, 2024 16:21:17 GMT -6
There's a rumor that Hall and Donato are going to NJ for Haula and a 2nd round pick in 2025. Erik had almost 2000 faceoffs the last 2 seasons with a 54% average. don’t think it’s a credible rumor at all from the website it’s on, but that would be a no brainer for the hawks I know it is a rumor, just do not see Devils making this deal, yes Hall did have his "Hart Trophy" season there, but that was a long time ago. |
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Post by Hockey is great on Jul 7, 2024 16:25:31 GMT -6
don’t think it’s a credible rumor at all from the website it’s on, but that would be a no brainer for the hawks I know it is a rumor, just do not see Devils making this deal, yes Hall did have his "Hart Trophy" season there, but that was a long time ago. cap wise also won’t work for the devils. Still have to extend Mercer |
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Post by tincup on Jul 7, 2024 16:29:08 GMT -6
There's a rumor that Hall and Donato are going to NJ for Haula and a 2nd round pick in 2025. Erik had almost 2000 faceoffs the last 2 seasons with a 54% average. Do that in a heartbeat but how credible is it? |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 7, 2024 16:40:40 GMT -6
There's a rumor that Hall and Donato are going to NJ for Haula and a 2nd round pick in 2025. Erik had almost 2000 faceoffs the last 2 seasons with a 54% average. don’t think it’s a credible rumor at all from the website it’s on, but that would be a no brainer for the hawks Yeah I don't know who Geoff Hannah from NHLTradeRumor.com is, just noticed it on my FB feed and thought it was on the NHL site. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 7, 2024 17:03:34 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Jul 7, 2024 17:59:01 GMT -6
I know it is a rumor, just do not see Devils making this deal, yes Hall did have his "Hart Trophy" season there, but that was a long time ago. cap wise also won’t work for the devils. Still have to extend Mercer yeah, we would have retain some salary for that to work. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 7, 2024 19:00:41 GMT -6
cap wise also won’t work for the devils. Still have to extend Mercer yeah, we would have retain some salary for that to work. Both guys only have 1yr left, KD can retain 50% on both. Haula makes 3.1 for two more years, NTC for 2024/25, M-NTC for 2025/26, so he'd have to ok the trade. Doubt it'll happen but Haula would be a solid 3C with Dickinson or AA as the 2C. |
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Post by Hockey is great on Jul 7, 2024 19:06:31 GMT -6
yeah, we would have retain some salary for that to work. Both guys only have 1yr left, KD can retain 50% on both. Haula makes 3.1 for two more years, NTC for 2024/25, M-NTC for 2025/26, so he'd have to ok the trade. Doubt it'll happen but Haula would be a solid 3C with Dickinson or AA as the 2C. I mean sure retain on hall and Donato Bedard, Haula, Dickinson, Craig Smith centers Nazar, Ludwinski, Misiak, Luypen/Saarela Rockford Anthanasiou plays second or third line left wing |
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Post by Tater on Jul 8, 2024 2:18:08 GMT -6
Apparently, they’ll have no place to go!!! mean old levee
Stan Bowman, taught me to weep and moan.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 8, 2024 2:33:50 GMT -6
yeah, we would have retain some salary for that to work. Both guys only have 1yr left, KD can retain 50% on both. Haula makes 3.1 for two more years, NTC for 2024/25, M-NTC for 2025/26, so he'd have to ok the trade. Doubt it'll happen but Haula would be a solid 3C with Dickinson or AA as the 2C. I believe you're only allowed to retain on 3 salaries at any given time and including Jake mccabe's we'd be at 3. Unless i've got it all effed up, not sure KfC would want to be painted into a corner like that before the season even starts. |
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Jul 8, 2024 17:29:44 GMT -6
Both guys only have 1yr left, KD can retain 50% on both. Haula makes 3.1 for two more years, NTC for 2024/25, M-NTC for 2025/26, so he'd have to ok the trade. Doubt it'll happen but Haula would be a solid 3C with Dickinson or AA as the 2C. I believe you're only allowed to retain on 3 salaries at any given time and including Jake mccabe's we'd be at 3. Unless i've got it all effed up, not sure KfC would want to be painted into a corner like that before the season even starts. They can just retain 67% of Hall's and nothing on Donato's, which gives the same result. Although, sounds like this is highly unlikely. I wouldn't go for this. Donato may prove to be a reliable bottom 6 player, and it's high time to stop moving the pieces and attempt to build a team. Hall will naturally disappear after this season and will be replaced by a prospect. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 11, 2024 15:41:27 GMT -6
Now with the 2024 draft over the Hawks have all three pieces to the Debrincat trade.
Korchinski, Ludwinski, Spellacy. Korchinski is a top4, possibly top2 dman, Ludwinski looks to be a top9 versatile forward similar to Shaw, and Spellacy is one of the fastest players in the draft and a powerforward at 6'3" 201lbs.
I love Debrincat but that looks like a good trade for Chicago.
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Post by BigT on Jul 11, 2024 16:19:57 GMT -6
Now with the 2024 draft over the Hawks have all three pieces to the Debrincat trade. Korchinski, Ludwinski, Spellacy. Korchinski is a top4, possibly top2 dman, Ludwinski looks to be a top9 versatile forward similar to Shaw, and Spellacy is one of the fastest players in the draft and a powerforward at 6'3" 201lbs. I love Debrincat but that looks like a good trade for Chicago. I agree about the other 2. But we’ll see about Spellacy. Hes decent. I just don’t see much talent there. Great kid. Skates fast. But no talent or hockey iq. Maybe he puts together. This year will be a tell tale. Personally, I just don’t see him becoming an NHL player. Ludwinski has a great motor. I’ve witnessed that first hand. But he is rather small to play that role in the NHL. Maybe some of these kids are assets for trades? That’s the way I see it. I really hope to see a lot of these guys packaged for Brady Tkachuk next summer!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 11, 2024 17:13:32 GMT -6
Now with the 2024 draft over the Hawks have all three pieces to the Debrincat trade. Korchinski, Ludwinski, Spellacy. Korchinski is a top4, possibly top2 dman, Ludwinski looks to be a top9 versatile forward similar to Shaw, and Spellacy is one of the fastest players in the draft and a powerforward at 6'3" 201lbs. I love Debrincat but that looks like a good trade for Chicago. I agree about the other 2. But we’ll see about Spellacy. Hes decent. I just don’t see much talent there. Great kid. Skates fast. But no talent or hockey iq. Maybe he puts together. This year will be a tell tale. Personally, I just don’t see him becoming an NHL player. Ludwinski has a great motor. I’ve witnessed that first hand. But he is rather small to play that role in the NHL. Maybe some of these kids are assets for trades? That’s the way I see it. I really hope to see a lot of these guys packaged for Brady Tkachuk next summer!!! from your lips... |
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Post by shooter61 on Jul 11, 2024 17:50:51 GMT -6
I look at AJ as a big Shaw, never stops moving , big mean kid, might not sore a bunch of goals , but a big guy that works hard and skates great, whats not to like
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jul 11, 2024 18:00:26 GMT -6
Now with the 2024 draft over the Hawks have all three pieces to the Debrincat trade. Korchinski, Ludwinski, Spellacy. Korchinski is a top4, possibly top2 dman, Ludwinski looks to be a top9 versatile forward similar to Shaw, and Spellacy is one of the fastest players in the draft and a powerforward at 6'3" 201lbs. I love Debrincat but that looks like a good trade for Chicago. So 15pnts and a -39 makes the grade for top 4 Dman? And zero pnts for the other 2 how about we give it 5 years? |
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Post by BigT on Jul 11, 2024 18:48:30 GMT -6
I agree about the other 2. But we’ll see about Spellacy. Hes decent. I just don’t see much talent there. Great kid. Skates fast. But no talent or hockey iq. Maybe he puts together. This year will be a tell tale. Personally, I just don’t see him becoming an NHL player. Ludwinski has a great motor. I’ve witnessed that first hand. But he is rather small to play that role in the NHL. Maybe some of these kids are assets for trades? That’s the way I see it. I really hope to see a lot of these guys packaged for Brady Tkachuk next summer!!! from your lips... At next years draft trade Moore, Allan and Toronta’s 1st rounder for Brady. Even if another pick or prospect needs to be added. Do it. He only makes 8 million, he doesn’t break the bank. Then it gives many options. Brady-Bedard-Kurashev. Turbo-Nazar-Bertuzzi. Slaggert-Dicky-Dach. Foligno-Boisvert-Savoie. That is your 2025/26 Hawks front end!!! |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 11, 2024 19:19:26 GMT -6
At next years draft trade Moore, Allan and Toronta’s 1st rounder for Brady. Even if another pick or prospect needs to be added. i'd be all over that, but the question is if you were ottawa would you trade a proven 24 year old commodity just entering his prime for 3 mid to late first rounders who have yet to skate in a pro game? the sens are already one of the youngest projected teams for next year. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 11, 2024 19:34:51 GMT -6
Now with the 2024 draft over the Hawks have all three pieces to the Debrincat trade. Korchinski, Ludwinski, Spellacy. Korchinski is a top4, possibly top2 dman, Ludwinski looks to be a top9 versatile forward similar to Shaw, and Spellacy is one of the fastest players in the draft and a powerforward at 6'3" 201lbs. I love Debrincat but that looks like a good trade for Chicago. So 15pnts and a -39 makes the grade for top 4 Dman? And zero pnts for the other 2 how about we give it 5 years? So you're writing him off strictly based on stats? There's a reason he was drafted in the top 10. The whole team was bad and he was a 19yr old dman who lost his dad before Christmas. Let's see how he does with a better team and a year of experience. Sure the other two don't have points yet but it won't take 5yrs, Ludwinski is turning pro and might get a chance sometime next season or the one after. Spellacy might turn pro in 2yrs, with his speed, physically, size, and shot, he might get a look in 2-3yrs. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 11, 2024 19:54:35 GMT -6
Now with the 2024 draft over the Hawks have all three pieces to the Debrincat trade. Korchinski, Ludwinski, Spellacy. Korchinski is a top4, possibly top2 dman, Ludwinski looks to be a top9 versatile forward similar to Shaw, and Spellacy is one of the fastest players in the draft and a powerforward at 6'3" 201lbs. I love Debrincat but that looks like a good trade for Chicago. I agree about the other 2. But we’ll see about Spellacy. Hes decent. I just don’t see much talent there. Great kid. Skates fast. But no talent or hockey iq. Maybe he puts together. This year will be a tell tale. Personally, I just don’t see him becoming an NHL player. Ludwinski has a great motor. I’ve witnessed that first hand. But he is rather small to play that role in the NHL. Maybe some of these kids are assets for trades? That’s the way I see it. I really hope to see a lot of these guys packaged for Brady Tkachuk next summer!!! Too small to play the role a guy 5'11" 182lbs played? Ludwinski is heavier and plays the same style, he can play all forward positions and works his ass off, plus has some offensive upside. As for Spellacy, I'll go by the scouting reports and the videos I've seen. Not many guys his size has his speed and agility, plus he has a good shot and release, he did have 21 goals in his second season, not great but not bad. He has the potential to be a solid bottom 6 forward. Especially considering he's known for being really good and backchecking and stealing pucks. But for Brady I'd trade almost anyone but Bedard. |
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Post by Nikos on Jul 11, 2024 20:28:51 GMT -6
At next years draft trade Moore, Allan and Toronta’s 1st rounder for Brady. Even if another pick or prospect needs to be added. Do it. He only makes 8 million, he doesn’t break the bank. Then it gives many options. Brady-Bedard-Kurashev. Turbo-Nazar-Bertuzzi. Slaggert-Dicky-Dach. Foligno-Boisvert-Savoie. That is your 2025/26 Hawks front end!!! I like the thinking, but it will take a lot more to get Brady and I be willing to give more if Sens truly want or need to move him. If Sens do make him available, KD better be ready to make it happen. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 11, 2024 20:56:14 GMT -6
At next years draft trade Moore, Allan and Toronta’s 1st rounder for Brady. Even if another pick or prospect needs to be added. i'd be all over that, but the question is if you were ottawa would you trade a proven 24 year old commodity just entering his prime for 3 mid to late first rounders who have yet to skate in a pro game? the sens are already one of the youngest projected teams for next year. He will want out. Norris will be done. They have no choice but to reset. It is what it is. I feel Canadian teams. But right now it costs too much to play in Canada. They will all want out at some point. Brady is no exception to this. He will ask for a trade next offseason!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 11, 2024 23:30:31 GMT -6
At next years draft trade Moore, Allan and Toronta’s 1st rounder for Brady. Even if another pick or prospect needs to be added. Do it. He only makes 8 million, he doesn’t break the bank. Then it gives many options. Brady-Bedard-Kurashev. Turbo-Nazar-Bertuzzi. Slaggert-Dicky-Dach. Foligno-Boisvert-Savoie. That is your 2025/26 Hawks front end!!! I like the thinking, but it will take a lot more to get Brady and I be willing to give more if Sens truly want or need to move him. If Sens do make him available, KD better be ready to make it happen. yeah, I agree. it will take a big package to land Brady, but I'd give them almost anyone for him. |
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